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Title: sold on maki plastic
Post by: lumpy on Jan 21, 2011, 03:04 PM
 :thumbsup: I have been ice fishing over 40 years I just got home from silver lake 1st time using plastics brother next to me in 2 man using live bait by the end of the day he was using plastic!!! I'm going to be using a lot more plastic from now on.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: northernmaddness on Jan 21, 2011, 03:52 PM
what were you catching?
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: wnybassman on Jan 21, 2011, 03:58 PM
 :tipup: :tipup: :tipup:

Fun, ain't it?    ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: iceman_phil on Jan 21, 2011, 05:37 PM
This is my first year using plastics with any regularity and I really haven't found that live bait outfishes plastics....Plastics are less fussing around when the bite is on.....Lots of time is saved not having to re-bait.

Phil
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: pimplepounder on Jan 21, 2011, 05:47 PM
who carries maki plstics i am in rochester any ideas would love to go to plastics over live bait. is it similar to berkley. any info appreciated
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: ChautauquaDawg on Jan 21, 2011, 05:52 PM
Not sure if I'm allowed to link to them here as they are not a sponsor. Just google them.Very fast shipping!  I also will vouch for these guys. Great micro plastics!
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: pimplepounder on Jan 21, 2011, 06:11 PM
i will do that thank you
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 21, 2011, 06:31 PM
who carries maki plstics i am in rochester any ideas would love to go to plastics over live bait. is it similar to berkley. any info appreciated
There are no retail oufits in your area so it's best to go directly to the website !      www.makiplastic.com (http://www.makiplastic.com)

  Watch the videos on rigging and the actual fishing footage and you'll get a great idea of how hot plastics are !
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: pimplepounder on Jan 21, 2011, 06:37 PM
i believe ya gamma i just have never seen them before but have heard about them from u guys on the IS i love your guys talk and try to learn for your guys experience THANK YOU
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: emtorn on Jan 21, 2011, 06:49 PM
I just checked out their site.  They look cool.  They have a ton of different ones.  Which ones were you using and what were you catching on them
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: pimplepounder on Jan 21, 2011, 06:59 PM
have never used them beofore but the price of moussies have gone through the roof this this year which is what i usually so i was looking for some alternatives THANKS FELLAS
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: lumpy on Jan 21, 2011, 07:08 PM
what were you catching?
blue gills bigger ones on the plastics
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jan 21, 2011, 07:47 PM
I just checked out their site.  They look cool.  They have a ton of different ones.  Which ones were you using and what were you catching on them

They all work, lol!
I have been lucky enough to test and use all his plastics since Scott made his first mold... and if I had to chose one it would be the original Maki. They are my go-to, rigged either horizontal or verticle.
The "toi" designed by Gamma is another of my favorites along with the Spiki, Stoni, Shrimpi, and the Milli. The Butti is going to be an open water killer also.  ;D

I tend to use alot of natural/darker colors or white...
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: gill catcher13126 on Jan 21, 2011, 08:20 PM
omg i love that video exspeacilly when the largemouth took the jig i just love watchn how fast they fly up.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: wnybassman on Jan 21, 2011, 09:42 PM
Gill favorite for me has been the Buggi this year, with the Mini Draggi and original Maki close by.    The Mousi has been good for me for deep perch until I started using a bait I started to hand pour myself this year.   Those aren't for sale though   ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: icemantwo on Jan 21, 2011, 09:58 PM
Welcome to the club.  Plastics are awesome.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: gill catcher13126 on Jan 21, 2011, 10:11 PM
Gill favorite for me has been the Buggi this year, with the Mini Draggi and original Maki close by.    The Mousi has been good for me for deep perch until I started using a bait I started to hand pour myself this year.   Those aren't for sale though   ;)

 haha well maybe we could get togethor  and fish and you could get me hooked on plastics cuz i never really used them before
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 21, 2011, 10:29 PM
haha well maybe we could get togethor  and fish and you could get me hooked on plastics cuz i never really used them before
He lives on the other end of the state but if you want a little inside info on the art of using plastics, I live a lot closer to you  :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: gill catcher13126 on Jan 21, 2011, 10:59 PM
He lives on the other end of the state but if you want a little inside info on the art of using plastics, I live a lot closer to you  :whistle: :whistle:

really gamma were you from? and yea we could get out and maybe i could learn sum new things  :icefish: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jan 22, 2011, 12:01 AM
Plastics truly are the new age in ice fishing technology in my opinion, and I 100% think Maki's have done their research, and have become the foremost leader in the ice industry, with innovation, action, quality and versatility.etc. I have just started utilizing plastics towards the end of last ice season, and it has taken me quite a bit of will power to transition, and I still go back and forth from live bait to plastics. One thing I can say about all the plastics I've used so far is...Quality of fish has been better, The plastics last longer, have better action, and bring in bigger fish when used properly. With spikes or waxies.... ya tend to have to "re-bait" every couple of fish...perch are the worse. With plastics, they last way longer, and actually add action to your jiggin methods. Maki, has various scents also, that act as attractants, and there is glow plastics out there also. Humble guy that he is some times. If you guys truly are interested in working and figuring out plastics....ask the Ol' Gamma....he really does know his stuff, when it comes to tackle and gear...especially ice fishing. Trust FM on this. ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 22, 2011, 12:22 AM
really gamma were you from? and yea we could get out and maybe i could learn sum new things  :icefish: :thumbsup:
I'm nationwide ! ;D    Liverpool actually so I'm pretty centrally located !

    We haven't gotten confirmation yet but a Maki Plastics seminar was sceduled for Saturday Jan 29th at the Cicero Gander Mountain store but we're not sure it's going to happen yet.    Seems they're doing a bit of employee/managment shuffling at the present time and they haven't gotten back to Maki yet.
   I'll keep you posted either way.

   After this cold snap/blizzard, if you want to meet up somewhere whether on the ice or at a local Tim Hortons / Dunkin Donut ;) ;) ;D , I can show you around the ins and outs of fishing plastics through the ice ! ;) ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 22, 2011, 12:25 AM
Plastics truly are the new age in ice fishing technology in my opinion, and I 100% think Maki's have done their research, and have become the foremost leader in the ice industry, with innovation, action, quality and versatility.etc. I have just started utilizing plastics towards the end of last ice season, and it has taken me quite a bit of will power to transition, and I still go back and forth from live bait to plastics. One thing I can say about all the plastics I've used so far is...Quality of fish has been better, The plastics last longer, have better action, and bring in bigger fish when used properly. With spikes or waxies.... ya tend to have to "re-bait" every couple of fish...perch are the worse. With plastics, they last way longer, and actually add action to your jiggin methods. Maki, has various scents also, that act as attractants, and there is glow plastics out there also. Humble guy that he is some times. If you guys truly are interested in working and figuring out plastics....ask the Ol' Gamma....he really does know his stuff, when it comes to tackle and gear...especially ice fishing. Trust FM on this. ;)
Awwww......you're making me blush again ! :blink: :blink: :unsure: :unsure: :whistle: :whistle: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 22, 2011, 01:23 AM
Old reprobates don't blush!

 :-[

RG
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Yukoner on Jan 22, 2011, 01:51 AM
We have used plastics for at least fifteen years, and watched as the lures keep getting better and better.  IMO, for the last five years, or so, there is no way you can outfish plastics with bait;  lake trout, inconnu, whitefish, burbot, and pike hit them hard!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/laketrouter/IMGP2296.jpg)

These are the pan fish.  Slot limit up here, must release all fish between 30 and 41 inches.

Ted
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 22, 2011, 03:19 AM
Old reprobates don't blush!

 :-[

RG
Who asked you ?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: no3steel on Jan 23, 2011, 06:07 AM
After reading all this and watching the vid i just ordered the kit   ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 23, 2011, 06:23 AM
After reading all this and watching the vid i just ordered the kit   ;D
The "Pro Pack" is a great starter kit to get youself familair with plastic baits !    You'll get a generous mix of many of the popular baits/colors and the great little box that they come in !

  My suggestion, when you get your Pro Pack, is to try the "Poli" first !   Rig is as per the video shows and post your results when you get back home ! ;) ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: INJUN on Jan 23, 2011, 07:14 AM
Only took 2 days to ship my pro pack.
Used it yesterday for a change up.
Very surprised on the action and durability - fantastic.
Mousi is still on my macho lure.
Great to have in your tackle box. :icefish:
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: FingerLakesFisher on Jan 23, 2011, 07:33 AM
Came close to out fishing me ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: no3steel on Jan 24, 2011, 05:22 AM
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My suggestion, when you get your Pro Pack, is to try the "Poli" first !   Rig is as per the video shows and post your results when you get back home !

Thanks for the hint :) I will let you know how they do  ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 24, 2011, 11:12 AM
Came close to out fishing me ;D
He will once he gets the feel of things ! ;D ;D


Thanks for the hint :) I will let you know how they do  ;)
Feel free to ask questions if neccessary ! ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 24, 2011, 11:38 AM
gamma   spun  me  on  to     some  Maki's ....without a  doubt  they   work   and  are  quility  ...i'll  never  give  up   my  old  ways   but  it  all  adds   to  the fishing aresnal .....  i  have   found  ....watching  with  the   vex  the  mix  and  match  ......   if  they   come  to  the  maki  fast  and  then  back  away   ...drop  a  spike!    and  vice  a  versa  ...   switching  up   has  proven  it's  self   with  me  .....   gamma     thanks   for   spinning  us  all on  to  them
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: bigredonice on Jan 24, 2011, 11:52 AM
yep, been using custom jigs'n'spins plastic tails for years now, plastic tails are awesome, they make a big difference sometimes.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 24, 2011, 01:27 PM
gamma   spun  me  on  to     some  Maki's ....without a  doubt  they   work   and  are  quility  ...i'll  never  give  up   my  old  ways   but  it  all  adds   to  the fishing aresnal .....  i  have   found  ....watching  with  the   vex  the  mix  and  match  ......   if  they   come  to  the  maki  fast  and  then  back  away   ...drop  a  spike!    and  vice  a  versa  ...   switching  up   has  proven  it's  self   with  me  .....   gamma     thanks   for   spinning  us  all on  to  them
Did you find the key to the ball and chain finally ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D     I was gonna start looking in the county pen to see if you might have been paying them a visit  ;D ;D 
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jan 27, 2011, 01:04 AM
A couple pics of the Makis i've come across in my ventures......by the way friends, these pics do no justice to the actual realism, colors, and action when rigged properly. I only want to show some of the different designs and colorations that I have obtained.

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/makiplastics1-11006.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/makiplastics1-11005.jpg)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 27, 2011, 04:58 AM
A couple pics of the Makis i've come across in my ventures......by the way friends, these pics do no justice to the actual realism, colors, and action when rigged properly. I only want to show some of the different designs and colorations that I have obtained.

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/makiplastics1-11006.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/makiplastics1-11005.jpg)
Boy !   Santy Claus must have been good to you ! :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Chaki17 on Jan 27, 2011, 11:25 AM
Well there is a $15 minimum on the site so if you're just going on to get a package of spikees you're going to end up with alot more!  Which I am a fan of made me try so things that normally I probably wouldn't have.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Byron/PA on Jan 27, 2011, 01:40 PM
One of the advantages of being the organizer and director for the North East Ice Tour tournaments is that I am constantly surrounded by anglers that are better fishermen than I am. And I always try to learn as much from them as I can.

And here's a thought for any of you who doubt the effectiveness of plastics; Out of our six tournaments last year, 15 of the 18 top finishes were taken on plastics. There was only one tournament where the first place team was not using plastics. The teams that took first, second and third places at our first tournament this year were all using plastics.

When you have guys that are willing to plunk down $120.00 entry fee per tournament and travel 6 hours to fish a lake they've never seen, at considerable expense, and almost all of them are putting their faith in plastics, it has to make you think that they might be on to something............. ... 
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 27, 2011, 02:40 PM
One of the advantages of being the organizer and director for the North East Ice Tour tournaments is that I am constantly surrounded by anglers that are better fishermen than I am. And I always try to learn as much from them as I can.

And here's a thought for any of you who doubt the effectiveness of plastics; Out of our six tournaments last year, 15 of the 18 top finishes were taken on plastics. There was only one tournament where the first place team was not using plastics. The teams that took first, second and third places at our first tournament this year were all using plastics.

When you have guys that are willing to plunk down $120.00 entry fee per tournament and travel 6 hours to fish a lake they've never seen, at considerable expense, and almost all of them are putting their faith in plastics, it has to make you think that they might be on to something............. ... 
Proof in the pudding right there ! ;) ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: no3steel on Jan 27, 2011, 03:02 PM
Got mine in the mail today took tomorrow off to fish them :)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: slipbob on Jan 27, 2011, 03:31 PM
I've found in my icefishing outings for panfish and walleye using plastics that their effectiveness is often greatly enhanced by tipping with a single spike or mousie, no more and no less, just one spike!  You don't need that all the time but I would NEVER venture out for panfish or eyes with only plastics and no maggots to tip with.  There are days when that makes all the difference for me around here :tipup:   One thing for sure is that the realistic profiles of these new micro plastics that are made by several companies now is a fun way to catch fish compared to the conventional ice jigs we've used in the past.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: The River Rat on Jan 27, 2011, 04:29 PM
I am the only retailer in CNY and I ship if need be
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Byron/PA on Jan 27, 2011, 04:55 PM
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I would NEVER venture out for panfish or eyes with only plastics and no maggots to tip with

Funny. For me, tipping plastics with spikes/waxies/mousies/etc, takes away the action of the plastics and defeats the reason behind using them in the first place................. .........but then again, if it works for you, it's all good.   
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: northernmaddness on Jan 27, 2011, 05:03 PM
ive never used these plastics but they sound great. Also are there any other brands that work well besides the maki plastic
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: mr_mojo on Jan 27, 2011, 05:19 PM
A couple pics of the Makis i've come across in my ventures......by the way friends, these pics do no justice to the actual realism, colors, and action when rigged properly. I only want to show some of the different designs and colorations that I have obtained.


I ordered when I saw those pics.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jan 27, 2011, 11:05 PM
Funny. For me, tipping plastics with spikes/waxies/mousies/etc, takes away the action of the plastics and defeats the reason behind using them in the first place................. .........but then again, if it works for you, it's all good.   

I believe the entire reason to use plastics is to target better fish in any given waterway. Not so much quantity, but quality fish. This is accomplished by proper rigging set ups and jigging techniques to enhance the presentation. Any fish will go after "meat". Proven for years, The key is to try to lure a more mature fish to your offer using nothing but quality plastics and proper technique?
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 28, 2011, 03:49 AM
Funny. For me, tipping plastics with spikes/waxies/mousies/etc, takes away the action of the plastics and defeats the reason behind using them in the first place................. .........but then again, if it works for you, it's all good.   
I'm glad you said it !       I haven't touched live bait in over 6 years now !
 Putting a spike or mousee on a jig/plastic combo is like licking salt and sucking lemons when drinking tequila !
  Ya don't need the training wheels with plastics !
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 28, 2011, 10:34 AM
   Another little tip for you guys who're just getting into using plastics through the ice.    Looks for the small "Shad Dart" style jigs at your local shops.   1/32nd, 1/64th, 1/80th oz work best.    The way they're designed allows for better hook sets and more hook gap between the point and hook eye.
   You can also alter the jig to resemble and perform like a Marmooska style jig by GENTLY bending the hook shank downword so instead of riding horizontal, it'll be at approximately 45 degrees.      When a fish strikes, the hook point is at an angle that's much more condusive for a good hook up !

    If you're fishing for crappies or perch, don't be afraid to use bigger hooks or jigs with bigger hooks.
I prefer #6 hooks on many of the jigs I use for crappies and sometimes, go up to a #4 and #2 (especially on Green Point during the late ice crappie fest) ;)   Only issue here is that you have to use a line that will be compatible with driving a bigger hook into the fishes jaw !
  The higher quality the hook, the lighter the line you can get away with !   Keep your hooks razor sharp to eliminate all doubt !

  There are several rigging tips/tricks that we use that will get you more hits but it's hard to explain them in type.
If any of you want to get together some day and meet, I'd be happy to show you in person the "ins and outs" of fishing plastics in the most unorthodox manor ! ;D ;D

  Don't forget the seminar this evening at Gander Mountain in Cicero !
Maki seminars are interactive, informational and easy to understand !     Great way to get your feet wet in fishing plastics, underwater camera use and safety  !
6PM tonight, Jan 28th 2011- Gander Mountain in Cicero NY

   

Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: roygpa on Jan 28, 2011, 01:51 PM
Ordered a pro pack last night because of this thread. Now if I couldmonly get it by tomorrow so I can try some of the baits at the local lake this weekend.

Roy
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: SKUNK-MASTER on Jan 28, 2011, 05:04 PM
me too!!!!
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: wnybassman on Jan 28, 2011, 05:30 PM
Anybody buying and using plastics for the first time, don't expect to go out the first time and put a hurtin' on the fish populations.  It ain't gonna happen.  There is definitely a learning curve for plastic use.  It took me a couple years to gain confidence in using plastics, and another year to realize I am carrying around live bait for nothing.   This is my third ice season since ditching live bait for jigging.  Yes, some times live bait will catch fish when things are tougher, and generally put more (usually smaller) fish on the ice.  Me, I don't need 800 pounds of fish in the freezer, nor do I need to catch 3 fish a minute to be happy (although that does happen with plastics at times), and generally enjoy the challenge of the tougher days using plastics.

Even my 5 year old was catching fish today on Maki's, so it ain't impossible   ;)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s163/wnybassman/Silver%20Lake/1-28-2011_nevan.jpg)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Barebow on Jan 28, 2011, 06:04 PM
I was sold by local pro and friend Nathan K.....you know who you are....ordered my propack 5 minutes ago....Have been using plastic exclusively for 20 years on the water, time to make the move to solid water too......Barebow
 :icefish: :icefish:

Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: roygpa on Jan 28, 2011, 06:35 PM
We can you up to 3 hooks per line here in PA, so I probably will start with a real wax worm and another jig or hook with plastics.

Roy
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: numinous on Jan 28, 2011, 07:50 PM
Got my Pro-Pack yesterday and took it out on Glenmere today. The learning curve wasn't all that steep. Caught a bunch of gills and perch with them. Even caught a keeper pickerel with a small teardrop jig sweetened with a Maki while the DEC officer was standing there watching. I also switched all my tip-ups over to circle hooks today. Fished from 8:30am til 6:30pm. Caught over 30 perch and about 15 or 20 gills. Didn't keep track of the pickerel but there were lots, mostly small. The 18-22 inchers that I've been regularly pulling out seem to have disappeared.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Chas on Jan 28, 2011, 10:41 PM
So...out of 26 different lures, how about some advice to narrow the selection down to manageable size...lol.  I'm thinking for perch the Mini Draggi, Maki, and Spiki. Yes, no, suggestions? What is your favorite colors? Thanks...
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 29, 2011, 01:41 AM
So...out of 26 different lures, how about some advice to narrow the selection down to manageable size...lol.  I'm thinking for perch the Mini Draggi, Maki, and Spiki. Yes, no, suggestions? What is your favorite colors? Thanks...
The style and color really depends on what the fish are feeding on in your lake/pond etc.    If you can figure that out and give them something in the Maki line that resembles what they've been feeding on, half the battle is over !
   Everybody has their "Go To" plastic eventually and it usually is the one that you build the most confidence in .  Even if it doesn't match anything that the fish have been eating !
   For perch, I tend to favor a Red Spikii on a marmooska style or shad dart style jig if fishing deeper water where blood worms are present.
If I start catching perch and they're aggressive, I'll switch to a slightly bigger jig with a Red Wormi which is similar to a Spikki but almost double the length.
  I always start with Red baits when fishing for perch !  It's one of those confidence things that has stuck with me since I had a very hot weekend long perch bite on Oneida Lake about 6 years ago !    If the red baits don't work, I go to the more natural colors like greens, browns and black.
   Bluegills, crappies and sunfish are a totally different situation but again, a confidence thing for me and thats the color White !
I've caught more of these fish using white plastics than all other colors combined !   It's something I carried over from my open water fishing where I used white calftail and bucktail jigs for most of my panfishing for years before we started with the plastics.
  My favorite white Maki baits are the Original Maki, the TOI and the Wormi.  When the crappies and big sunfish are aggressive, I use the white Stonii which is a bigger bait that is less streamlined which increases visibility to the fish.  If you find that the fish are short striking the Stonii, break off the head of the bait and re rig it.  They're a convertible bait as are most of the Maki baits.   Shortening up the Stonii will make a big difference if they're just nipping at the bait.
 
  Learning the proper rigging techniques is essential !   If you just hang a plastic bait from a jig without getting it into the proper position, the bait will not perform properly but, that's not saying that they won't catch fish because we've caught fish with them rigged in the most strange ways over the years !   On ocassion, that different look might make the difference between a good day and a great day !
  Always experiment if the proper rigging isn't keeping you busy !
  I can go on about rigging the baits but it's better and easier to watch the videos on the website !

Keep your hooks sharp ! ;) ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jan 29, 2011, 01:43 AM
Anybody buying and using plastics for the first time, don't expect to go out the first time and put a hurtin' on the fish populations.  It ain't gonna happen.  There is definitely a learning curve for plastic use.  It took me a couple years to gain confidence in using plastics, and another year to realize I am carrying around live bait for nothing.   This is my third ice season since ditching live bait for jigging.  Yes, some times live bait will catch fish when things are tougher, and generally put more (usually smaller) fish on the ice.  Me, I don't need 800 pounds of fish in the freezer,   That;s because I'm not your neighbor !   ;D ;D  nor do I need to catch 3 fish a minute to be happy (although that does happen with plastics at times), and generally enjoy the challenge of the tougher days using plastics.

Even my 5 year old was catching fish today on Maki's, so it ain't impossible   ;)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s163/wnybassman/Silver%20Lake/1-28-2011_nevan.jpg)
Great picture !
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: emtorn on Jan 29, 2011, 08:35 AM
Thanks Maki, for hooking the kid and I up last night at the seminar last night.  Can't wait to try them out next week.  I am sure they will add to my arsenal and I am sure I will end up with quite the colection of them by next season. 
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: luv2fish2 on Jan 29, 2011, 09:19 AM
i think there's a time and a place when plastics out fish live bait and vice versa i don't see them as a magic bullet just another option as usual i think it's also a confidence thing and how you work it . my 2 cents we've all seen one thing outfish  another at one time or another
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: nessman on Jan 29, 2011, 12:15 PM
Best of all they're made here in NY (Gasport I believe).
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 29, 2011, 12:17 PM
i used  fake  plastic  in the  form of  spikes and  wax worms  today   ;D....God  still makes the  best  bait
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jan 31, 2011, 11:29 PM
You are back again Trap!!!! ;) God makes these also my friend!
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/bigbayjan2011001.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/Dadsfishingpics017.jpg)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: McHayHam on Feb 01, 2011, 09:37 AM
Just received my first order of Maki's yesterday.  then this damn storm hit.  Can't wait for the weekend so I can try them out.
Love the instrucion video on the site that shows how to use each lure!
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: fishing mechanic on Feb 01, 2011, 11:23 PM
Hey FM, Those fish measure exactly 1.75" smaller than that tape measure shows.....That tape was made in china dude!!!! LOL!! Nice fish though!!--KP @) Good to see you back Trap!! ;)

It's the fancy angles I put on the cam KP....still trying to make up for something....not sure what that is yet? ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: emtorn on Feb 02, 2011, 12:33 PM
Had ordered some wormis from Makiplastics on Fri and havn't gotten them yet  :'(.  Drove out to the RiverRat to pick up some more jigs to use tomorow with the few Makis I have already and they were closed  ??? ???
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 02, 2011, 02:09 PM
Had ordered some wormis from Makiplastics on Fri and havn't gotten them yet  :'(.  Drove out to the RiverRat to pick up some more jigs to use tomorow with the few Makis I have already and they were closed  ??? ???
They were most likely shipped on Monday and you should have them today or tomorrow.
  If they don't show up, contact Scott @    [email protected]
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: emtorn on Feb 02, 2011, 02:59 PM
They were most likely shipped on Monday and you should have them today or tomorrow.
  If they don't show up, contact Scott @    [email protected]

I figured today or tomorow.....I was just hoping for today since I was going to head out to Lewis Point in the morning.  Oh well.....I will just have to go again this weekend to get to try them out ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 02, 2011, 08:34 PM
Thanks FM for that. Got to get Gamma to do a seminar at the  SPSH before 6:30 ,my bed time. We old geezers have to get our sleep you know.
All it takes is coffee and donuts to get me there ! (Peanut donuts preferably) ;D ;D
 I work cheap ! ;) ;)

  Matter of fact, I'd be happy to sit around a table with you "Up North" guys some day and show you the ins and outs of plastic baits !
SPSH would be my choice of venue  ;) ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: fishing mechanic on Feb 02, 2011, 10:38 PM
Ummmmmm.....I'll take you word for it!!!! :P You were way past your curfew this morning FM!! :nono: No wonder you don't show up at the shop until 11:00 am everyday!! ;D--KP @)
Jealousy will get ya nowhere Mr. KP ;) Besides, I'll sleep enough when I'm pushing up daisies ::)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: RedWolfUSAF on Feb 03, 2011, 08:40 AM
A couple pics of the Makis i've come across in my ventures......by the way friends, these pics do no justice to the actual realism, colors, and action when rigged properly. I only want to show some of the different designs and colorations that I have obtained.

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/makiplastics1-11006.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/makiplastics1-11005.jpg)

Nice pics FM.... Don't ever use that black TOI... they don't work..... ::)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: bcons on Feb 03, 2011, 08:49 AM
You can see in my hand part of the Caty jig.  I often use a plastic above one of my "goto's", this was a small 7-8" but it chose the plastic over caty with meat.
(http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bcons1/plastic.jpg)


When the bite slows, yet still marking fish I change back and forth between just plastic, & just traditional goto, here's a plastic only Largemouth
(http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bcons1/bass.jpg)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: deano686kx on Feb 03, 2011, 07:44 PM
Alright.....you guys talked me into it. I'm just starting to mess around with the jiggin rod, and I figure a few more treats to try can't hurt. I'm sure I'll have some rigging questions once I get started with plastic.....Heck I probably have 100 riggin; questions with meat....just not sure what they are yet!!
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: RedWolfUSAF on Feb 03, 2011, 08:22 PM
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/captkev/layout.jpg)

Totally plagarized but enjoy
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: fishing mechanic on Feb 10, 2011, 01:48 AM
That is great redwolf, I gotta put something together like that as a pic post to show my ideas. :o ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 10, 2011, 02:28 AM
That is great redwolf, I gotta put something together like that as a pic post to show my ideas. :o ;)
Just wait until I show you the proper rigging techniques before posting any pictures ! ;)
  The above picture was put together about 3 years ago by someone who wasn't real familiar with the Maki Baits and it shows in how several of them are rigged (improperly)
  Not saying they won't catch fish that way but for starters, proper rigging is important.   If everything fails, then rig them backwards, upside down, inside out or stacked like firewood !  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 10, 2011, 02:51 AM
Hey "T"...what's the dropper rig? I've been working on something like that.

RG
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: RedWolfUSAF on Feb 10, 2011, 06:28 AM
Just wait until I show you the proper rigging techniques before posting any pictures ! ;)
  The above picture was put together about 3 years ago by someone who wasn't real familiar with the Maki Baits and it shows in how several of them are rigged (improperly)
  Not saying they won't catch fish that way but for starters, proper rigging is important.   If everything fails, then rig them backwards, upside down, inside out or stacked like firewood !  ;D ;D ;D

Get them on a hook and they'll catch fish......

 The first rule is to get the bait straight and oriented to the way fishes food items appear naturally.... so the Stoni should be rigged so it's horizontal; The Rocki wants to be standing up a bit; the Yatzi, Spini, Bugi, Wormi, etc.. are more flutter style so they can hang horizontal or whatever suits your fancy... The second rule is there are no rules......

Do what Gamma and Maki have done for years..... put the baits on a jig and put them in the water or in an aquarium and jig 'em..... see how they look and what the action is...

Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 10, 2011, 12:33 PM
Hey "T"...what's the dropper rig? I've been working on something like that.

RG
Cool design from my buddy Chuck in Michigan.    It's nothing more than a spinner blade with a dropper line attached.   Just below the main spinner blade, he add's one or two small flipper blades for attraction purposes.
  Originally used under tip ups but after some experimenting, it was found to work great hanging off the end of a rod too !
The door is wide open as far as different rigging techniques with these dropper rigs but the bottom line is....they work ! ;) ;)


Get them on a hook and they'll catch fish......

 The first rule is to get the bait straight and oriented to the way fishes food items appear naturally.... so the Stoni should be rigged so it's horizontal; The Rocki wants to be standing up a bit; the Yatzi, Spini, Bugi, Wormi, etc.. are more flutter style so they can hang horizontal or whatever suits your fancy... The second rule is there are no rules......

Do what Gamma and Maki have done for years..... put the baits on a jig and put them in the water or in an aquarium and jig 'em..... see how they look and what the action is...


Thanks for saving me a lot of typing ! ;) ;) ;D ;D

Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: mikeymjr23 on Feb 10, 2011, 03:04 PM
Used maki's in the spring for the crappie run...AMAZING!  Got some packs for ice fishing as well.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: emtorn on Feb 10, 2011, 05:57 PM
Small plastics were the only thing that would work today.  Glad I had my new Makis or I wouldn't have caught anything today.  They wouldn't touch minnows, didn't want anything on a pimple.  Small horizontal jigs and Maki blood worms and guppies were two of the successful options today along with a Northland jig and plastic and a Maki wormi cut in half.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: fishing mechanic on Feb 11, 2011, 12:02 AM
Small plastics were the only thing that would work today.  Glad I had my new Makis or I wouldn't have caught anything today.  They wouldn't touch minnows, didn't want anything on a pimple.  Small horizontal jigs and Maki blood worms and guppies were two of the successful options today along with a Northland jig and plastic and a Maki wormi cut in half.

Good stuff emtorn, one day of building confidence with the power of quality plastics. ;) A must to do, is attend a seminar on these creatures, with Scott running the show. He is mild mannered, informative, intuitive.....blah.... just an awesome guy that started making these things because he loves to fish. Also has a natural knack of communicating with people. Very humble also, I left his seminar absolutely enlightened. I'll go to his next one just to remember what I missed on the first. ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: South33 on Feb 11, 2011, 12:14 AM
I agree... plastics are great... sometimes.
I use tiny plastic jigs for perch & panfish & they just eat them up.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 11, 2011, 02:45 AM
Thanks for the info. The picture wasn't too clear. I caught my first fish ice fishing on a small Swedish Pimple with a 1/32 oz brown bucktail as a dropper on a shore piece of mono. That was a couple of years ago :-\

RG
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: fishing mechanic on Feb 11, 2011, 03:03 AM
Just a couple years ago ehh? ;)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: emtorn on Feb 11, 2011, 06:29 AM
A must to do, is attend a seminar on these creatures, with Scott running the show.

Was at the last one at Gander.  Only a few people there, but that's where I got my info and I used some of the samples he hooked me up with yesterday.  After the seminar I placed an order to "fill out" my arsenal.  They seem to work well when that's what the fish are looking for.  Went out one other time at Chapman that whatever jig, spoon, plastic, live bait I threw at them on a pole they wouldn't touch but had 6 slob perch hit the 3 tip ups I had out  ??? ???.  Every day is different, and I guess the more toys you have to throw at the fish, the more chance you have of putting some on the ice.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: no3steel on Feb 15, 2011, 05:36 AM
So i decided to spend a day fishing noting but my new plastics.
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h315/no3steel/perch4.jpg)

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h315/no3steel/perch3.jpg)
Thanks for the posts that talked me into trying them  ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: bcons on Feb 15, 2011, 07:45 AM
You can't catch fish on plastic through the ice  ::)
Don't be afriad to experiment with some that may seem untraditional. 
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 15, 2011, 01:03 PM
You can't catch fish on plastic through the ice  ::)
Don't be afriad to experiment with some that may seem untraditional. 

Just noticed your location.    Shoot me some contact info and we'll meet up !
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 15, 2011, 01:42 PM
Stop here first, ;D bcons is just up Rt11!! You can buy us lunch....I hear that the Eis House has great lunch specials!!!! :woot: :afro:--KP @)
Uh......I'm the one with the "Goods" that YOU want !  ;D ;D   Who's buying who lunch ?    And I prefer the SPSH !

  I'm headed up to see Lance in a little while.   He might have donuts ! ;D ;D

 
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 15, 2011, 02:40 PM
I was thinking location GAMMA!!! Mexico was a little closer!! We missed lunch though, gotta be dinner now, table for 6, 6:00. My family thanks you!!!! ;D ;D ;D And , where are the goods??? Looking to try them under the ice while ice is here..Seems Lance and HT got their stash recently !  ;D ;D  You need to quit hiding out so much !   If you came to the meeting Sunday afternoon, you would have left a bit heavier :^). :P :P--KP ;D  Lance called and said no donuts today.......JERKY only!! ;)
Still worth the trip !   I'm headed north right now !
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 15, 2011, 10:46 PM
We'll hook up at some point!! ;) Talk about hiding......Seems none of us can get you on the ice these days!   I fished yesterday but west of here ! 
  I think HT can show you a thing or two!!!!! He did.......a cooler full of very nice venison steaks, roasts and 3 bags of perch and bluegill fillets that he put in the back ov my van !   :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bow: :bow:   I guess I'll have to "Paper Up" his truck more often !   :whistle: :whistle:With FATHEADS!!!!! ;D :woot: :icefish: :afro:--KP @) :P
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: bcons on Feb 16, 2011, 06:17 AM
"I fished yesterday but west of here ! 
He did.......a cooler full of very nice venison steaks, roasts and 3 bags of perch and bluegill fillets that he put in the back ov my van ! "

Gamma I'm a bit confused  ??? ???  If you're so good with Plastics why did HT need to give you 3 bags of perch & gills?  :whistle: >:D   
The real confusing part though, guess you must be, for HT to part with that stuff, I can only immagine how difficult it is for the little fella to move a bucket of fish, let alone a deer.  ::) :woot: :whistle:
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: bcons on Feb 16, 2011, 07:48 AM
awwww but he started it  ::) some wise az responses at me.... nuttin but respect for him, while I can catch him on the pond, damn sure haven't put deer in a Canoe, yet.  He posts stats to shoot for.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 16, 2011, 10:49 AM
"I fished yesterday but west of here ! 
He did.......a cooler full of very nice venison steaks, roasts and 3 bags of perch and bluegill fillets that he put in the back ov my van ! "

Gamma I'm a bit confused  ??? ???  If you're so good with Plastics why did HT need to give you 3 bags of perch & gills?  :whistle: >:D    I don't get around as good as I used to :^)    Too many irons in the fire and not a lot of free time these days so I operate a jig swap every winter !     You get jigs, plastics and knowledge.....I get fillets, venison, jerky and other edible delicassies !  :^)    Not a bad deal !
The real confusing part though, guess you must be, for HT to part with that stuff, I can only immagine how difficult it is for the little fella to move a bucket of fish, let alone a deer.  ::) :woot: :whistle:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: H.T. on Feb 16, 2011, 12:38 PM
Hey there was 2 deer in that canoe that day. Ya i must have felt bad for Gamma that day to give him the goods but i did end up with a nice bag of Jigs. OH and as for the toilet paper thing that's not for gotten there buddy   >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D you better stay up all night this coming Halloween  >:D :afro: i have no problem carrying around full buckets of fish bcons. i am used to the bucket being full.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: H.T. on Feb 16, 2011, 05:35 PM
I wish I could get on the ice just one day with HT......... Put 'Ol Buzzard GAMMA to shame!! HT has most definitley put a hurtin' on the perch, bluegill, and crappie populations on and around the Pond!!!! Someone else has done that a time or three on here!! ;) :whistle: :whistle: :-*--KP @)
i took all of next week off KP so  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) oneida might be one choice. i need a ride and i know someone has a wheeler  :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :woot: :icefish: :icefish: :thumbsup: :afro: :woot: :-* :-* :clap: :flex: ;)2can you belive that in all of my travels i have not caught a legal stink log to hang from the hoop other the that slime dart i put in trappers bucket  :cookoo: :cookoo: whats up with that ??? ???
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 16, 2011, 05:39 PM
Hey there was 2 deer in that canoe that day. Ya i must have felt bad for Gamma that day to give him the goods but i did end up with a nice bag of Jigs. OH and as for the toilet paper thing that's not for gotten there buddy   >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D you better stay up all night this coming Halloween  >:D :afro: i have no problem carrying around full buckets of fish bcons. i am used to the bucket being full.  ;D ;D
How many times to I have to tell ya ?  It wasn't toilet paper !    It was industrial grade paper towels (supplied by FM) !
  I would never use the lowly toilet paper to decorate your truck !   Only the best for my little buddy ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: H.T. on Feb 16, 2011, 06:32 PM
How many times to I have to tell ya ?  It wasn't toilet paper !    It was industrial grade paper towels (supplied by FM) !
  I would never use the lowly toilet paper to decorate your truck !   Only the best for my little buddy ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i took all of next week off there gamma. its time for me to show you how its done bud  :flex: :flex: just you and me -one day for all the chips. you with your plastics  ::) ::) ::) and me with fat heads and spikes  :P name the place and time and i will even pick you up. but i am not going to pull you out there so pick a spot that is like 20' from shore ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 16, 2011, 06:41 PM
i took all of next week off there gamma. its time for me to show you how its done bud  :flex: :flex: just you and me -one day for all the chips. you with your plastics  ::) ::) ::) and me with fat heads and spikes  :P name the place and time and i will even pick you up. but i am not going to pull you out there so pick a spot that is like 20' from shore ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I know a fishy market that's pretty productive  ;D ;D

  Make sure you pick up KP on the way !   I want him to teach me some things too  :whistle: :whistle: :roflmao:
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: H.T. on Feb 16, 2011, 06:43 PM
I know a fishy market that's pretty productive  ;D ;D

  Make sure you pick up KP on the way !   I want him to teach me some things too  :whistle: :whistle: :roflmao:
yes i forgot we need someone to pull out or gear while we disscuss our game plan @) @) @) @)
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 16, 2011, 08:44 PM
yes i forgot we need someone to pull out or gear while we disscuss our game plan @) @) @) @)
KP couldn't handle my jig bag ! ;D ;D

Yea, On how to sleep in till 11:00 a.m. everyday!! I'll have my limit before you brush your teeth!!!!!!!--KP @)
When you go to bed at 7 AM, it's kind of tough to get up at 6 AM  ::) ::) :P
  We're fishing 1 day....not 50 days  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 17, 2011, 02:36 AM
Yea, On how to sleep in till 11:00 a.m. everyday!! I'll have my limit before you brush your teeth!!!!!!!--KP @)
It's 3:36 AM and I need a tubing bender !   Got one handy ?    I'll be right up ! :P :P :P ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 17, 2011, 03:33 PM
HT meant YOU can drag out our gear!!!! I will trade rides out on the ice for a good sweeping thru of that jig bag of yours!!! ;D ;D ;)--KP @)  That jig bag got MAKI in it?? If not, I'll need to sweep thru that bag too!! ;D
No........The back of my van looks like a Maki Showroom though  :whistle: :whistle: ;)2
 All I need now is a solar powered credit card scanner  ;D ;D ;D

Door is unlocked help yourself!! There are three copper tubing benders and 2 conduit benders....lock up on the way out!!!!!! ;D--KP @)
Thanks buddy....but I'm no plumber or electrician so I'll need someone to operate those things otherwise it'll look like a 3 Stooges plumbing job ! :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: Gamma Fish on Feb 17, 2011, 07:59 PM
NO card bro!! How 'bout IOU'S ;D ;D--KP @)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8-PlnJ3kkk&feature=fvwrel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8-PlnJ3kkk&feature=fvwrel)-- ;D
I just found a bag of 100   3 Dot jigs !       Maybe I'll raffle them off  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: blueperch on Feb 18, 2011, 04:24 AM
I ordered some yesterday, can't wait to try them.
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: no3steel on Feb 18, 2011, 05:14 AM
I ordered more Monday evening got them yesterday now if the ice holds up
Title: Re: sold on maki plastic
Post by: bcons on Feb 18, 2011, 06:54 AM
"There are three copper tubing benders and 2 conduit benders....lock up on the way out!!!!!! --KP

Thanks buddy....but I'm no plumber or electrician so I'll need someone to operate those things otherwise it'll look like a 3 Stooges plumbing job !"


BS thread now?  The king of plastics looking for a pipe bender?   :whistle:  There's plastic alternative for that too, a blind monkey could re-plumb a bathroom in an hour or 2 with a $100 pair of glorified pliers, or easier yet $10 fittings & no tools, but it's gotta be a joke, plastic only right?