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Title: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Dec 24, 2010, 01:53 AM
Was out on ice at 8 am and fished till about 4pm...I  drilled holes in my regular spot, set up and had nothing under me that my camera could see. Decided to move and had a fun day. Set up and put my camera down(8ft) and was rewarded to see a herd of Bluegill  ;D....Probably caught over 70 fish total with 14 in the bucket for home. 10 were Bluegill/sunny, 2 calico, 2perch...Lots and I mean lots of small "dinks"...but that camera made it so fun...Also caught 2 largemouth bass(biggest 14 inches) seen 2 pike and 2 smelt on camera....The gills would kill the minnows and fall for waxies on a Hali jig....These all seemed to be resident fish...Can't wait till the smelt show up to bring the pike in. Overall a fun day, back out at 9am......
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Irish Jigger on Dec 24, 2010, 09:48 AM
When the smelt show up you'll be lucky to catch a pike. Now is the best time for pike, once it's loaded with bait they'll be fat and happy and bites will be few and far between. I've been fishing there for 20+ years and it's the same every year when the bait shows up the fishing gets tough, not impossible but tough.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Dec 24, 2010, 09:57 AM
I was out there yesturday from 8 till 5. Im pritty sure me and my buddys were talking to you for a while about your camera and stuff.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Dec 26, 2010, 07:26 AM
You one of the young guns from Derby????
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Dec 26, 2010, 07:35 AM
Was back on the ice on Friday, pulled up another 50 or so fish with again only 13 coming home....Seen 2 pike in camera, one was big. I find that the smelt bring in more pike in the harbor. I usually do decent for them, just have to adjust my tactics. That large pike came flying into the camera range when I hooked a small gill and let him swim while getting another fish off my other rod. Also the perch aren't in yet. Seen several Largemouth bass,landed only one. I'll be out there today.....Yellow tent.....Good luck and tight lines..
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: wnystxguy on Dec 26, 2010, 08:57 AM
we where talking chatting with you a bit wednesday i think viking... we where the 2 guys on the buckets infront of you...next time we come with a shelter..lol
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Dec 26, 2010, 05:13 PM
Stopped in to get my minnows at penrods and got a nice tip on landing more smelt... I small piece of egg sack netting does the trick. Their teeth get caught in the netting. Also had a discussion on cameras vs sonar units. When your in 25 feet of water or less you can't beat a camera. Over that and the lighting on the camera gets worse as you go deeper. Sonars are nice but not for everyone. That camera just makes the day so much more fun. Today I had a pike take(steal) my minnow twice. Seen bass,pike,steelie, catfish, and the usual dinks. Brought home 20 Bluegills.A great day on the ice and fish in my fridge for a nice meal during the week.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: wile.e.1 on Dec 26, 2010, 06:32 PM
never thought of the egg sack netting, heard that guys use yarn for the smelt. Have any of you guys seen any minnows at the hole yet ?
Have not had a chance to get out and am gettin' mighty itchy to do so. Thanks for the posts from you folks who have been out
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Irish Jigger on Dec 26, 2010, 07:16 PM
A piece of cotton ball works the same way and imitates a grub pretty good also. When they bite pull them out of the hole and shake them off.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: slabspanker on Dec 27, 2010, 09:41 AM
yes i use yarn all the time. have a few hot color in my box at all times.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Dec 27, 2010, 10:36 AM
Cotton balls !!!!! Pure genius, I can try tying a few up on real small hooks...This may be the best idea since sliced bread....I use them for pike when they are in. I hook them almost mid section not to kill them and 3 to 4 feet down. That camera helps so when the pike swim up and are just looking, I can jig the bait so it entices them  to strike. Unbelievable results. Any tips you have are appreciated. I would like to put up a shaty for the season. Any tips??? Can't be out till Friday. If I could fish 24/7 I would. Like I said yellow/white tent, stop and say 'hey'....greg
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: eldasilma on Dec 27, 2010, 11:22 AM
got a hub hut for christmass want to try out soon! hope to see ya out there

Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Ultralight108 on Dec 27, 2010, 09:36 PM
I was thinking about going out there tomorrow (Tuesday) I'll be in a Frabill hut I hope it won't be windy.

Good luck to all.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Irish Jigger on Dec 27, 2010, 10:34 PM
10-20mph out of the west. Nowhere to hide at the harbor, hope you got anchors for that hut. Our general rule for Lake Erie is when they say the wind is 10-20 in the city add those numbers together and thats what it will be on the lake.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: PerchPirate97 on Dec 27, 2010, 11:27 PM
Been out three times with the camera and flasher and havn't caught or seen anything that I would consider a "keeper" panfish, few pike cruising around. Had to have caught over 200 bluegills/pumpkinseeds with none over 6"
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: sfirkbass on Dec 28, 2010, 12:38 AM
ive been to the harbor twice this year so far and its a bunch of small fish with the occasional big one got a 12 in perch though biggest ive caught out of here so far
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Irish Jigger on Dec 28, 2010, 01:22 AM
The Harbor is a tough gig for sure. I've done week's of all midgets but if you're there at the right time it can pay off, if you're there when the fish move in it can be nonstop action but you have to put the time in just like anywhere else. It's not like other small lakes where you can move around and find fish in deeper water or another bay, it's a small harbor connected to a huge lake that is tough to access if not impossible on ice. Unfortunately the game plan there is to wait for the fish to come to you for the most part and be there when it happens. I've had seasons where you fish for weeks weeding through short fish and then BAM!! keepers, it might last a day or a week but it will happen sooner or later and Lake Erie can grow some good sized fish. The weeds are a big thing there too. The last couple seasons they have been cutting the weeds in the fall after the docks are out and with the weeds gone the fish just won't hold there very long.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Dec 28, 2010, 08:10 AM
Its Tuesday and the winds are hummin'...hope ultra got those wind anchors out.....I agree if you put your time in the rewards are nice fish. We already have brought home nice size fish. My best this year is a 10 1/2 inch crappie. Well don't count the 14" largemouth, wasn't a keeper. Lots of Bluegills nice size, and a few pumpkinseeds that were keepers. Yeah a lot of throw backs but never a dull moment. The bait fish haven't moved into the harbor yet. When they do it will be better. Look its the harbor, lots of traffic for a decent size piece of water. You won't get the numbers and sizes you get like out in the big lake or Chatauqua but we are doing what we love to do close to home and safe. Almost 10 inches of ice and I started fishing before Xmas....Hasn't happened in a long time...Friday, 40 and wind....Thinking I'm still going....
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 01, 2011, 11:29 AM
any1 been out lately?
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 01, 2011, 11:37 AM
Thats gotta be slick and dangerous today.....Temps are supposed to drop back into the 20's tonight and stay there for the rest of the week....Its tough to sit home when you have the itch....By the way, I might have a new spot for the Derby boys.....send me a message Chris....sit tight and stay safe....Gotta let that ice heal itself....
  Greg
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Instantperception on Jan 01, 2011, 02:14 PM
any1 been out lately?

i was out last night.  posted a report on the conditions page.........shore ice wasn't looking great when i left at 6pm last night.....saw one 1 inch gap near the middle ramp..........if anything shore ice will be in rough shape......some guys were out today..........gonna hope to get out there tomorrow.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 01, 2011, 04:47 PM
hopefully the cold thats coming back tonight will freeze it up real nice for this week
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 02, 2011, 10:22 PM
any1 been out?
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Cswimmar24 on Jan 02, 2011, 10:53 PM
Goin out tomorrow let u know how I do
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 02, 2011, 11:27 PM
Goin out tomorrow let u know how I do

Good luck!

Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 03, 2011, 06:17 AM
Its gonna be a great year on the ice....Bring on 2011.....I'm still trying to figure out how to post my pic's on here.
Got a couple I would like to share...any help would be appreciated....
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 03, 2011, 01:54 PM
you gotta use photo bucket... im not really sure how to do it either
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Irish Jigger on Jan 03, 2011, 04:23 PM
open a free photobucket account and add your photos there. When they are on photo bucket put the cursor on them and below click on the img. code and they will be copied then paste to your post here.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: 12icashdollar on Jan 03, 2011, 08:38 PM
ya went to sbh yesterday tough as hell drilled prolly 8 or nine diffrent spots and moved to a new location and dropped the camera down and it litt up wit fish i saw bass perch craps and gills but they were all suspended but sill caught prolly 25 30 fish but just 3 keeps well typical sbh good luck see ya out there
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 04, 2011, 01:43 AM
OK, here it goes...(http://[IMG]http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k497/pinki4u/Picture007.jpg)[/img](http://)(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k497/pinki4u/IMG00147-20101224-1232.jpg)(http://)(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k497/pinki4u/IMG00145-20101223-1535.jpg)(http://)(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k497/pinki4u/IMG00148-20101230-1654-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 04, 2011, 01:47 AM
OK, now I know how....Yhanks for the help, hopefully my pike will come through and you can see where a larger pike grabbed it as it was coming out of the hole..(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k497/pinki4u/Picture007.jpg)..(http://)
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: hard4ice on Jan 04, 2011, 01:56 AM
nice pics vikingking :thumbsup:                   when's dinner? :whistle:
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 04, 2011, 06:29 AM
Love that pikes tail...sure is exciting with that camera.....I'm dying being here at work.....Can't wait to be on the ice...I live through you guys so hit'em, and post them pics.....Greg
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Instantperception on Jan 04, 2011, 08:24 AM
nice catch w/ the Pike Viking...............n ice pile of fish also.................. ..  that's wild w/ the tail
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 04, 2011, 08:27 AM
those are some great fish viking. Cant wait to get out. probably wont be out till this weekend
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 04, 2011, 11:45 AM
Posting those pics were pretty easy...Definitely will post more as the season goes on...Just drove by the harbor....Lots of snow coming down....good luck boys...Greg
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: 12icashdollar on Jan 04, 2011, 11:46 AM
yo viking how do you stabilize your camera on your jig cus when i was at small boat the current kept moving the cam o and nice fish dude
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: ICE-ADDICT on Jan 04, 2011, 11:55 AM
Posting those pics were pretty easy...Definitely will post more as the season goes on...Just drove by the harbor....Lots of snow coming down....good luck boys...Greg

Hey King, I got the photo bucket set up with my pics in it, but cant figure out what to do after you click on image, what do u do when you go to the reply screen and want to transfer the pics?
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Irish Jigger on Jan 04, 2011, 01:04 PM
Addict,
 once you click on the image code it copys automaticly, just right click and paste on the reply here in shanty.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Irish Jigger on Jan 04, 2011, 01:25 PM
Anyone know whats going on down there at the moment? My mother just called and said there is a couple fire trucks and an ambulance down there right now with the backboard out. Hopefully no one went through but being it's been slick maybe someone fell and needed assistance.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: ICE-ADDICT on Jan 04, 2011, 01:45 PM
Addict,
 once you click on the image code it copys automaticly, just right click and paste on the reply here in shanty.

Thanks John!
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Irish Jigger on Jan 04, 2011, 01:46 PM
No problem John.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 05, 2011, 07:37 AM
I put up another thread about Accident at small boat harbor....Guy hit his head on the ice....Wish I had more news...Hoping someone posts on it about his condition....Greg
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 07, 2011, 08:32 AM
Hows the catch going on at the Harbor?????....It looked like tent city out there....I hate driving by working... Definitely a jealous hardwater fiend.....Tight lines.....
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: wnystxguy on Jan 07, 2011, 10:32 AM
might head out there later for the afternoon/early night bite... any good spots for crappie? seems to me that the bottom is pretty much the same wherever you fish there..
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: 12icashdollar on Jan 07, 2011, 10:38 AM
ya its weedy pretty much everywhere if u find an edge of rock or something diffrent thats usually kill them good luck
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 07, 2011, 11:16 AM
I caught crappie only by the two pipes toward the back corner. I fished 75 feet in front and out of 6 times going have caught 9 crappie....Its like 8 F.O.W......watched them on the camera too....good luck with this snow coming down....if you can post some pics...greg
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: xgolfprojon on Jan 07, 2011, 12:12 PM
Been to the SBH a few times this season. Each time, I have been able to get into gills, perch and LMB but have not gotten into any crappie.

Will be heading out tomorrow morning. Should be less windy then last Sunday when the wind was HOWLING!  :'(

Tight Lines in 2011

Jonathan

Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: wnystxguy on Jan 07, 2011, 12:25 PM
yea ive been there a few times also.. never have trouble finding perch or bluegill... even caught a pike on a smelt yesterday...thanks viking.. ill have to go check out that area... i seen you around there before! if anybodys out there stop by the clam expedition with the jet sled outside..lol! that narrows it down to about half the tents..lol! just give a yell for mike or greg...lol
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 07, 2011, 01:03 PM
I'll be looking for ya on Sunday.....I'll check on that pile of fish you'll have outside....Always an extra soda in the hut if you guys come by....Tight lines....Greg
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: wnystxguy on Jan 07, 2011, 01:13 PM
Heading out to chaut Sunday! Gonna be at sbh tonight for a few hours though...
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 07, 2011, 02:04 PM
cant wait to get out sunday with the new tent
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: 12icashdollar on Jan 07, 2011, 03:49 PM
ice angler hope the wind isnt bad for ur first time putting up the tent small boat makes wind a whole new word lol good luck rip some lipps
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: wnystxguy on Jan 07, 2011, 05:03 PM
By the tubes now! Nothing but smelt so far
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: 12icashdollar on Jan 07, 2011, 05:19 PM
i hate it when the smelt show up u can never tell the difference in a smelt bit and a perch bite
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 07, 2011, 06:04 PM
thanks man. And yea im probably gunna have some trubles with putting it up seeing as though its the first time. Hopefully it wont end up on the other side of the harbor getting blown by the wind.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: ICEMAN73 on Jan 07, 2011, 06:12 PM
Was there last night 5:30PM to 9PM

ALL SMELT!!!!!

They should change the name to Smelt Bait Harbor!!!

I saw something weird:

As I was leaving (9PM), about 8 people ran out on the ice under the pier with weird LED (multi colored) lights and went out the exit toward freezer queen and then made a left all the way out passed the wall.  I thought it was search and rescue.  I did not see any gear with them, looked weird.  Did not look normal to me, any ideas???  Looks like they were on a mission or something, did not look safe at all.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 07, 2011, 06:13 PM
Probably some crazy teenagers or something
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: ICEMAN73 on Jan 07, 2011, 06:24 PM
The all came out a white dualy at the launch near to restaurant (the old put in launch).  ANd some had some serious candle power bright lights.

Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: SoftSpot_716 on Jan 07, 2011, 06:59 PM
could have been the coast guard I was up in the city of tonawanda over the summer in isleview park and there were a crew of coasties that were in a big white dually crew cab pickup.
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: 12icashdollar on Jan 07, 2011, 07:03 PM
wow thats nuts when i was there last week end that was still open water in fact there where quit a number of boats out duck hunting wonder what they were doing
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: silvercreeker on Jan 07, 2011, 08:41 PM
Be out there in 10 hrs.  Maybe a big smelt fry tomorrow night.  The Ice Shanty flag will be flying!
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 08, 2011, 06:33 AM
Smelt ='s a fish fry ;D ;D ;D....and pike will follow the smelt into the harbor....Hook a smelt and let that flag sit.
Can't wait...counting the hours till morning.....Fish them hard boys....Greg
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: 2fishyfingers on Jan 08, 2011, 11:12 AM
Anyone getting decent perch?
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 08, 2011, 11:30 AM
Can not wait to get out tomarrow!!!
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: silvercreeker on Jan 08, 2011, 06:59 PM
Watched some big pike on the camera today.  BIG pike, fun watching them eat the smelt!
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: 12icashdollar on Jan 08, 2011, 10:37 PM
ive herd from a bunch the perch moved in about a week ago and there good ones to i think this year the harbor has been the best in a long time well good luck
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 09, 2011, 04:38 PM
Nothing to good today. fished form around 10-5 caught close to 75 smelt. about 10 gillz and 1 LMB about 12 inches, That was a fun fight on the ultra light!

Oh yea, To who ever decided to bury a couple of Molson Canadian Export beer bottles in the snow and leave them there,Dont worry i picked them up for your lazy ass. >:(
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: wnystxguy on Jan 09, 2011, 06:04 PM
we caugt lots of smelt...a few gills and lost a decent pike at the hole! not a horrible day!
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: hard4ice on Jan 10, 2011, 12:00 AM
was at harbor today got 9 keeper perch between 9-12" (measured), lost 2 more nice ones at the hole,  lots of smelt and some gills and more small perch............  i got a smelt on my jig tipped with spike,  just as i started to reel up it got slammed, i brought him out of the hole and a 9" perch got greedy and had the smelt in his throat was practically choking on it  :roflmao: 
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 10, 2011, 06:32 AM
Not a bad day at the harbor....Between everybody giving smelt away and my tent we had an incredible smelt fry at the house after... ;D ;D....Highlights of the day were my wife catching a 17" Northern on a micro jig tipped with a spike on 2 lb. test.....She was having fun on the camera catching smelt and got that pike to hit. Amazing that little hook was able to penetrate any skin on the lip....Tough fishing by the pipes but a smelt dinner wasn't hard to swallow....Thanks for the help with my buddys clam Mike...and Chris for the smelt and the venison sticks..Good people and good times....Oh, by the way Chris, I also picked up a bunch of debris on my way off the ice... Whats it gonna take to get through to these people, take out what you take in....Tight lines my friend....Greg
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 10, 2011, 03:10 PM
and Chris for the smelt and the venison sticks..Good people and good times....Oh, by the way Chris, I also picked up a bunch of debris on my way off the ice... Whats it gonna take to get through to these people, take out what you take in....Tight lines my friend....Greg

  No problem man. And yea it seems everytime i got out i bring more stuff back then when i go out. And let me tell you it was fun explainingthe beerbottles in the sled to my dad. ;) and thanks for the cookies!
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Iceangler247 on Jan 26, 2011, 07:59 PM
You been out lately viking?
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: viking king on Jan 27, 2011, 02:08 PM
Went rabbit hunting last weekend and my mother-in-law passed away this week.....doing an overnighter on Chatauqua on Sunday and fishing early Monday........just made some new micro jigs for the perch....hows the Harbor doing????
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: Windknots on Jan 28, 2011, 09:20 PM
Fished SBH today, 8-1pm, all dinks.  Saw 2 nice pike look at my jig and scoot by.  Lotta people out there but by 1pm folks were leaving.  Must have done as well as me.  2 a- holes left their Tim Hortons cups for their mother to clean up....
Title: Re: Small Boat Harbor
Post by: 12icashdollar on Jan 28, 2011, 11:48 PM
fished it today saw prolly 30 pick on the cam bunch of largies to also saw my first steelhead in the harbor today no takers tho but could have kept like 2 or 3 perch bite was slow real small jigs light bites well fishin tom good luck