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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Northern Pike => Topic started by: Neptune on Feb 16, 2007, 11:14 PM
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I know this sounds wierd but I went Pike fishing with a guy this last weekend and he did something I've never heard of anyone doing. He herded the fish toward our gear.
Basically while I finished setting up our gear he walked probably an eighth of a mile away from our holes in a big arc and hammered on the ice with the Spud. Not long after we got two on at once....
Coincidence or Strategy? He claims it works.... I'm not so sure...
Does anyone else do this?
Good Fishing :tipup:
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Well if the fishing is slow we will take our snowmobile and drive around the area. Thinking that if there is something in the area just sitting on the bottom the noise might entice a feeding frenzie. I mean if they aren't biting it can't hurt!! :tipup:
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i know that a fish that has taken a bait in shallow water and has stopped can be made to move off again by walking out from the whole in the direction of the line and then scraping the ice with your cleats! so sound does have an affect on pike. d. b. d. :tipup:
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So maybe there is something to this... I will have to keep that in mind next time they aren't biting.
Good Fishing :tipup:
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We used to play loud music and point the speakers downward at the ice when pike fishing. I don't know if it was coincidence or not, but it seemed to help. In fact, we seemed to catch fish more often even during certain songs - Aerosmith's "Eat The Rich" comes to mind as one that worked really well.
Again, it may have been coincidence, but that doesn't change the fact that we caught fish doing it ...
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Now that sounds like something I'd like to try!
;D
Good Fishing :tipup:
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Very Interresting. May have to pop in a cd with some serious base next time we are out. I have noticed that every time the train goes by the lake we always catch a few fish. Things that make you go HMMMMM.....
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Nope. It is illegal in NY.
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I know this is an old thread but thought I would jump start it again.
Not just for Pike, but anytime we had tip-ups set for any length of time without action, we would start moving around the holes...just walking. We would make sure that each hole was visited and then come back to our "base camp". Almost always, within five minutes of returning (sometimes sooner) a flag or two would pop up. We used to call it driving for fish. I don't know why, but it worked.
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Nope. It is illegal in NY.
I know its an old post but why would walking around on the ice making some noise by your tipups be illegal ?
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When the fishing dies off, I walk a few 100 yards and drill more holes to wake up the fish. Plus it gives you more options to fish.
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if i start setting up while my friends are drilling with the gas auger, i seem to get a good burst of flags ???
also, on days when i go out with just the chipper, i seem to get no flags for about the first 30 minutes, then suddenly a burst of 4 or 5
this happened about 4 times on the same lake in 2 weeks ::)
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Nope. It is illegal in NY.
It is? What a dumb thing to make illegal. I love NY but sometimes it really gets rediculous with these regulations.
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It is? What a dumb thing to make illegal. I love NY but sometimes it really gets rediculous with these regulations.
I looked and could find no such reg. Just imagine an eco handing out tickets for stomping your feet on the ice near tip ups. LOL
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I looked and could find no such reg. Just imagine an eco handing out tickets for stomping your feet on the ice near tip ups. LOL
haha phew. That would be rediculous, even for NY.
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If they gave you a ticket for that i dont think id be tellin my buddies.Dont think theyd quit laughin at ya. :laugh: Have had flags after running to other flags walking around the tip ups but never thought nothin of it.
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I know this sounds wierd but I went Pike fishing with a guy this last weekend and he did something I've never heard of anyone doing. He herded the fish toward our gear.
Basically while I finished setting up our gear he walked probably an eighth of a mile away from our holes in a big arc and hammered on the ice with the Spud. Not long after we got two on at once....
Coincidence or Strategy? He claims it works.... I'm not so sure...
Does anyone else do this?
Good Fishing :tipup:
yes i thought it was a coincidence until one day i fired up the jiffy and like clockwork got a flag, again and again mo
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In-Fisherman has done articles on hearding pike. It seems to work for me. When they lie in the weeds like logs, you stir them up and they often bite on the deep edge. This seems to work best in spring when they sun themselves in the shallows.
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just got out today and when i started the jiffy up for another hole, about 3 seconds later, a tip up 50 feet away goes off. happened twice today :o
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We dont get pike in our neck of the woods but with chain pickerel ive noticed many times that the bite would be real slow until someone would set up dwon from us a ways and start drilling holes, then we'd start catching again but it would always be short lived
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Guys, I believe the regulation is for putting on fish drives. This regulation is true. But it is as far as I know for the tributaries to Lake Ontario. They do not want people pushing fish back into a hole by walking through where they are holding. Allowing fisherman a easier chance to hook them in a easier area. If you look in the great lakes section of the New York Regulations it should be in there.
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Guys, I believe the regulation is for putting on fish drives. This regulation is true. But it is as far as I know for the tributaries to Lake Ontario. They do not want people pushing fish back into a hole by walking through where they are holding. Allowing fisherman a easier chance to hook them in a easier area. If you look in the great lakes section of the New York Regulations it should be in there.
2 completely different things. We are talking about making some noise on the ICE. I know the reg your talking about it was specificaly put into place for the fall Salmon and Trout runs when people can actually see fish and push them to their YAHOO buddies so they can snag them.
As many guys have said I can't tell you how many times I will take a loud stroll around my spread, I'll drill holes for the hell of it the whole nine yards. Plain and simple it works. How many times have you walked by a tip up and :tipup: , It happens to me numerous times through out the season.
I started a thread about this in feb of 04 look thru it its pretty funny. Its entitled "walking by tip ups and they go off"
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this does seem to happen a lot. I may start walking around a little more this year
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I think it works, I'm going to start doing it more often. Heck, after doing this last weekend, I fought a huge northern for an hour and a half untill it snapped my jigrod in half. -adkiceman and I got about 10 feet away from my rod before it started smokin' off line.
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We do this often. We will start by walking around our set and progressively pick it up with using the spud bar and banging and then using the ATVs. It seems to stimulate the action so we continue to do it - not sure now out of boredom sometimes or out of tradition. We get some strange looks occasionally, but that just keeps the lurkers away.
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I Just happened to see this topic, & had to tell ya. There have been many times over the years, Just for the laugh, I would get out away from my fishing buds & do a "fish dance". (Stomping my feet/ waving my arms/ hooting & hollerin'/etc.), & quite often we would get flags & fish on!. This happened often enough, that now, when times are slow. They Ask me to do it. HAHAHA Never occured to me that I was "herding the fish.... LMAO ;D
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I've noticed that when I fire up the auger and start drilling more holes when fishing is slow a flag often pops up. First time I thought it was a coincidence but it happens way too often not to make me think there is something to this.
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No doubt something to it...not just for Northerns either...i have seen it myself and been told by others sometimes when your walking to check a tip up or to take it out when leaving it the flag will all of a sudden go up with a fish on it. Its like they think someone is coming to steal the bait! ;D
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Very Interresting. May have to pop in a cd with some serious base next time we are out. I have noticed that every time the train goes by the lake we always catch a few fish. Things that make you go HMMMMM.....
If you did that when I was icefishing I'd probably come over and yank the CD and break it in half. ;D
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DEC has better things to do trust me.
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It seems there are noises that pike respond favorably to and noises that they move away from.
I have watched pike on the underwater camera when a skidoos, vehicles or a person would walk by, in all these incidents the fish would move away from the noise quickly and leave the area.
The opposite reaction seems to be when a person fires up the ice auger.
Again I have seen pike who were watching my lure and then turn toward the direction of the ice auger sound, it might be a coincidence but it is interesting to see. :)
WW
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turn the propane heater on....the rainbows come in.....turn the propane off......the rainbows leave.I have learned that this happens ...but.....only when the bite is on...when the bite is off.....sounds can acctually scare the fish away...so the moral of the story is.....fish when the bite is on of coarse.the only way i learned this is from yrs. of almost daily fishing..so theres a free one for ya all
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Water Wolf, I would say I have had the same experience as you. Augers good, people, vehicles bad. The pike always take off if someone walks too heavy or drops something in the shack, but hit the auger and flags start flying...
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Water Wolf, I would say I have had the same experience as you. Augers good, people, vehicles bad. The pike always take off if someone walks too heavy or drops something in the shack, but hit the auger and flags start flying...
well...lets think about this for a second.....the auger actually spins down under the ice which in turn churns up the water....which may just signal a pike to believe there is another big pike thrashing about and feeding.Since fish hear through their lateral line on the side of their bodies, then churning water must be picked up by them.....mmmmm interesting ..to say the least
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Only if I listen real hard.
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Nope. It is illegal in NY.
in california it's illegal to walk in a public area with a melted ice cream cone in your back pocket :-\ :laugh: ::) ???
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Last weekend I was walking towards a tipup after missing a flag about 30 yds away from it and when I got about 15 yds from the tipup a pike hit it. So maybe there's some truth to it. Of course the sneaky little terd dropped the bait before I got to the tip up. >:(
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Last weekend my brother & I had only 1 & 1/2 hrs to fish. for the first hour no flags. Since he wasn't dressed well enuff & getting cold I said, let's go "herd". He looked at me funny, since he doesn't icefish too much & said, "yeah right", We set off towards the shallow area /weeds & hadn't gone thirty ft. walking & stomping every 3-5 steps & up goes the flag nearest us. A couple minutes later 25" -aprrox 4.5# pike is on the ice. It works....
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Well....i put herding to the test a while ago and just thought i would post. My dad and I went to a res. We fished with tipups till just before dusk to no avail....so....just before dusk i went around with the shovel in a 70ft radius and banged the shovel on top of the ice surface about every 10ft. It was not long after ...we iced a nice 6lb. pike..we had been fishless before that for 3 hrs....It works!
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I dont exactly herd, but on more than one occasion I have had a flag go off within a couple minutes after chipping the ice out of my hole, and one time it was a 38 inch fish. I used to think smashing out my holes would spook em' but now I make sure to make a little extra noise when I do.
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I found the regulation in NY. It only applies to the Great lakes and Tributaries. Here is the link.
http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/31420.html (http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/31420.html)
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I usually take the sled for a rip,that seems to get the flags poppin.
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maybe it's possible that pike link the sound of an ice auger running to free food? i know stripers act the same way when im live lining mackeral or pogies, they hear the splash from the bait hittin the water and know it's the dinnah bell.
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I've herded Perch before, and it works with perch because thet are curious feeders :tipup:
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We had go-carts as kids and used to bring them on the ice. Whenever we'd drive past a trap, it would go off. We did this consistantly for a whole year. I'd say the noise attracts them somehow.
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in california it's illegal to walk in a public area with a melted ice cream cone in your back pocket :-\ :laugh: ::) ???
You know the really sad part?? There's an actual REASON that, like any law... is a law. Somebody did something wrong and somehow, someway, having a melted ice cream cone in their back pocket was key to what happened.... Otherwise, they would have never made the law.
Sheeeeesh
Dave