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Lake Trout forage in Lake DeSmet and Fees
slamber:
I'm in favor of an annual/daily entrance fee to use DeSmet in the first place; say $20 annual, $2 daily. I'd gladly pay more if the fishing was worth it.
Houligan:
DeSmet is not owned by the game and fish nor the department of parks and hysterical sites. Pretty sure you will not see a gate fee anytime soon. The funding comes from your licensing already. And remember they just increased license fees. If wanting to pay more for fishing "rights" send a donation to the game and fish. Please don't encourage the bilking of more funds out of the citizenship. All the more traffic DeSmet gets it would cost more in G&F salary to collect the monies and red tape to disperse the funds.
If this is true, not sure why trout are being used for forage when there are other less expensive forage species that could be used. Shad, smelt etc... Or should I ask are other forage species more beneficial and less expensive then trout? Wonder why there's no big spiel about the cutthroat in DeSmet with all these invasive, non indigenous species being introduced like in other cutthroat waters. Oh that's right, its only the walleye or the "illegally introduced walleye" that eat native trout. So on one hand we use trout to feed the lake trout in DeSmet but the lake trout in Buffalo Bill don't eat trout, only the walleye do?
Its getting hard to see through the smoke....
Kinkyline:
Big fish get big by good forage bases being established in a body of water. Feed them stockers and the will gladly eat them. Introduce forage fish and they will eat the easier to catch minnows. I'm with mobilerat and his thinking. ;D
WGFFishBio:
--- Quote from: Houligan on Jan 24, 2018, 09:38 PM ---DeSmet is not owned by the game and fish nor the department of parks and hysterical sites. Pretty sure you will not see a gate fee anytime soon. The funding comes from your licensing already. And remember they just increased license fees. If wanting to pay more for fishing "rights" send a donation to the game and fish. Please don't encourage the bilking of more funds out of the citizenship. All the more traffic DeSmet gets it would cost more in G&F salary to collect the monies and red tape to disperse the funds.
If this is true, not sure why trout are being used for forage when there are other less expensive forage species that could be used. Shad, smelt etc... Or should I ask are other forage species more beneficial and less expensive then trout? Wonder why there's no big spiel about the cutthroat in DeSmet with all these invasive, non indigenous species being introduced like in other cutthroat waters. Oh that's right, its only the walleye or the "illegally introduced walleye" that eat native trout. So on one hand we use trout to feed the lake trout in DeSmet but the lake trout in Buffalo Bill don't eat trout, only the walleye do?
Its getting hard to see through the smoke....
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My comment the other day has been misconstrued. We do not stock trout as forage in DeSmet or anywhere in the state of Wyoming. It was a comment to make light that predators are in DeSmet, whether the migrant lake trout (they come down Piney Creek from some of the wildness lakes above Buffalo), the brown trout (we see browns over 20 lbs in DeSmet), or the walleye. We have to stock bigger trout to avoid as much predation as possible, regardless of which species might eat that newly stocked trout. Thus, regardless of what might eat that stocked trout, it's gonna cost the same. That's where my comment derived.
Cutthroat were never native to DeSmet. The Clear Creek drainage was never endemic range for the Yellowstone cutthroat. Cutthroat have been stocked to provide an additional sport fishing opportunity.
Houligan:
Thanks for your clarification.
The trout are not specifically purchased and stocked for the forage source of these predator species but they are eating them?
My question still stands about shad, smelt etc... being introduced as forage?
Where are all of the 8-10" trout coming from if the effort is to stock larger trout? or are they the larger trout?
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