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Title: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Dec 24, 2023, 09:01 AM
Some Menards have put these new tanks out on the shelf for sale so I picked one up to try.  I assumed my Flame King valve was going to work on these fuel kegs, but I was wrong.
You will need the Mr Heater valve to fill the Mr Heater tanks.
Valve $29.99
Tank $17.99

First video with an overview of the tank and comparison to Flame King and then a follow up using the correct valve.

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Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Splattypus on Dec 24, 2023, 09:38 AM
Thanks for the video!

Ive been looking at picking up some of the refillables, haven't pulled the trigger yet. I don't go through a ton of cans, don't use the heater much, but it's definitely more cost effective in the long run. Plus better for the environment, as you point out. Also, technically the disposables are supposed to be taken to hazardous waste facilities, which is pretty inconvenient for most people. So as I deplete my stock of the coleman ones, I'll probably pick up some refillables.

I presume the Mr Heater kegs are compatible with all products that take 1lb tanks(camp stoves, lanterns, torches, etc) , and not just Mr Heater products? It doesn't technically say on any of the product information anywhere
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hawg on Dec 24, 2023, 02:18 PM
Best to be sure, Mr Heater has a habit of making their stuff compatible only with their stuff.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Splattypus on Dec 24, 2023, 02:22 PM
That's still where I would predominantly use it, so it's still worth having a few to me. That said I have some camping gear that I'd like to put to use that would be nice if they were universally compatible. Proprietary stuff is a pain, and I try to avoid it when at all possible
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: sylvain guy on Dec 24, 2023, 03:41 PM
Here is what confuses me about this. I have been using Flame King bottles for years on Mr. Heater and Coleman products, so the threads must match. So why would the threads for the keg not match? Also all the one time use 1lbers all match. By the way Menards has discontinued the Flame King 1lbers.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Dec 24, 2023, 04:15 PM
I am pretty invested in the Flame  King line up ..valve/stand and 5 canisters ... but the Fuel Kegs do intrigue me ...if I could use my FK refill adapter I could be tempted to purchase a canister or two . I would imagine that Flame King will be updating their canisters to follow suit with Mr Heater.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: esox_xtm on Dec 24, 2023, 04:26 PM
That's still where I would predominantly use it, so it's still worth having a few to me. That said I have some camping gear that I'd like to put to use that would be nice if they were universally compatible. Proprietary stuff is a pain, and I try to avoid it when at all possible :thumbsup:

Apple products. Any of 'em.  >:D
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: HWeber on Dec 24, 2023, 05:19 PM
Looks too easy to open the valve. I have the kind of luck where I'd end up with propane spewing all over the place in my sled.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Splattypus on Dec 24, 2023, 06:41 PM
Looks too easy to open the valve. I have the kind of luck where I'd end up with propane spewing all over the place in my sled.

I may be mistaken, but I would presume that valve only dumps the tank if the primary pressure valve is depressed (ie, when connected)?

The ease at which I could accidentally break that off is a little concerning though. But then again, I can accidentally break anything
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RickWakeman on Dec 24, 2023, 09:36 PM
Anywhere to buy this that isn't Menards?
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: filetandrelease on Dec 25, 2023, 06:27 AM

 I’m set with my FK , but it’s nice to have options , nothing wrong with some competition
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: defish on Dec 25, 2023, 09:05 AM
The purposely designed incompatibility with Flame King sucks, but I'm sure someone will come up with a work-around. The little spring plunger that blocks the purge valve doesn't necessarily have a function other than to force people to buy their adapter?  Or a pin the right size that would depress that plunger as the FK fitting is tightened? Not saying that I recommend doing any of the above, but you know someone will!
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Splattypus on Dec 25, 2023, 09:31 AM
Very probable flame king has a patent on their adapter and rank, forcing a different design.

Of course it doesn't look like too sophisticated a design, I've seen people on ice shanty build far more complex stuff themselves in their garage. Just don't know if you could build/modify an adapter yourself as cheaply as a larger company can mass produce one
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Dec 25, 2023, 10:41 AM
DTro...some questions will the Mr Heater Refill valve work on the Flame King canisters ...and have you tried the Mr Heater stand ..is it functional . Thinking about how you have to depress the valve via the Mr Heater refill valve seems to be a safety feature ...no accidental discharges of propane should the release pin gets broken/dislodged ...which is a possibility as it kinda hangs out there and that split ring style pull tab is just waiting to ge hung up on something .

RickWakeman  My understanding is after January they will be in the usual retail outlets every where.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RickWakeman on Dec 25, 2023, 12:09 PM
DTro...some questions will the Mr Heater Refill valve work on the Flame King canisters ...and have you tried the Mr Heater stand ..is it functional . Thinking about how you have to depress the valve via the Mr Heater refill valve seems to be a safety feature ...no accidental discharges of propane should the release pin gets broken/dislodged ...which is a possibility as it kinda hangs out there and that split ring style pull tab is just waiting to ge hung up on something .

RickWakeman  My understanding is after January they will be in the usual retail outlets every where.

Good to know, thanks. I'm not anti Menards or anything, just don't have one nearby.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Dec 25, 2023, 02:27 PM
Here is what confuses me about this. I have been using Flame King bottles for years on Mr. Heater and Coleman products, so the threads must match. So why would the threads for the keg not match? Also all the one time use 1lbers all match. By the way Menards has discontinued the Flame King 1lbers.

The threads match fine.  If you watch the second video I explain exactly why they aren't compatible with valve system.   They both will however work will all propane burning devices (those threads are pretty much universal)
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Dec 25, 2023, 02:53 PM
The threads match fine.  If you watch the second video I explain exactly why they aren't compatible with valve system.   They both will however work will all propane burning devices (those threads are pretty much universal)

Thanks ...is the Mr Heater stand functional in any way ? It looks kinda cheesy .
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: defish on Dec 26, 2023, 10:53 AM
The Mr. Heater management no doubt thinks that they are geniuses for making these tanks compatible ONLY with their refill valve to sell more refill kits, but doing so cuts both ways. I would have bought some of their tanks locally if they were compatible with other fill valves, but ordered a couple more Flame King tanks today instead.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: ice dawg on Dec 26, 2023, 11:35 AM
My thoughts are, if you are using FK tanks, keep using them. If looking to start refilling tanks, you now have a choice. Eventually it may come down to which is easiest to find in your area . Here Runnings has FK tanks and refill kits and Menards carries Fuel Kegs. Six months from now that could change.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Dec 26, 2023, 12:13 PM
My thoughts are, if you are using FK tanks, keep using them. If looking to start refilling tanks, you now have a choice. Eventually it may come down to which is easiest to find in your area . Here Runnings has FK tanks and refill kits and Menards carries Fuel Kegs. Six months from now that could change.

I agree ..but that lil allen wrench ...seems to just walk away ...down to one from 5 . .. I more then likely squirreled them in my secret never to be found safe hiding place ...with my duncan yo yo and some silly putty .
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: filetandrelease on Dec 26, 2023, 12:34 PM

 I’m curious if the Mr heater fill nozzle would work on FK as it has a brass nipple that might fit the FK
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: ice dawg on Dec 26, 2023, 12:39 PM
I agree ..but that lil allen wrench ...seems to just walk away ...down to one from 5 . .. I more then likely squirreled them in my secret never to be found safe hiding place ...with my duncan yo yo and some silly putty .
I have a very similar safe hiding place. I wish I could remember where it is.  ;)
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Dec 26, 2023, 12:50 PM
I’m curious if the Mr heater fill nozzle would work on FK as it has a brass nipple that might fit the FK

That metal stem on the MH valve...looks to be quite long ..the notch on the FK canisters if I recall is not deep at all . I have filled the FK canisters with an actual MH valve ...the old style w/o any problem..the new valve looks to present some problems with all canisters ie the green bombs . DTro may be able to clear the air on this though... as he has both .
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: filetandrelease on Dec 26, 2023, 01:04 PM
 Thanks HWD , maybe he will clear that up , I’ve had no issues with the FK
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Dec 28, 2023, 07:09 PM
Here's another update.  I did a quick comparison burn with 3 tanks.

This was the first time I actually used the Fuel Keg in my heater and I really wasn't happy with how much it leaked while I was screwing it in. 

Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: fisherbob on Dec 29, 2023, 10:00 AM
Here is what confuses me about this. I have been using Flame King bottles for years on Mr. Heater and Coleman products, so the threads must match. So why would the threads for the keg not match? Also all the one time use 1lbers all match. By the way Menards has discontinued the Flame King 1lbers.

Looks like they have millions of the Coleman units in stores
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Dec 29, 2023, 02:06 PM
I agree ..but that lil allen wrench ...seems to just walk away ...down to one from 5 . .. I more then likely squirreled them in my secret never to be found safe hiding place ...with my duncan yo yo and some silly putty .
I purchased an Allen wrench with a screwdriver type handle.
I keep it in the drawer of my tool box with the other screwdrivers.
One could easily paint the handle or use colored tape making it more visible I suppose.
Anyway the new wrench is easier to keep track of and easier to use.
Just a thought.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: 4Buck on Jan 02, 2024, 02:02 PM
I purchased an Allen wrench with a screwdriver type handle.
I keep it in the drawer of my tool box with the other screwdrivers.
One could easily paint the handle or use colored tape making it more visible I suppose.
Anyway the new wrench is easier to keep track of and easier to use.
Just a thought.

Did you buy this on-line by chance?
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RStock521 on Jan 03, 2024, 07:27 AM
I agree ..but that lil allen wrench ...seems to just walk away ...down to one from 5 . .. I more then likely squirreled them in my secret never to be found safe hiding place ...with my duncan yo yo and some silly putty .

I use one of those little rubber twist gear tie's to keep my allen wrench secured to the adapter.  Works pretty well.  One of these:  https://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-Original-Reusable-Rubber/dp/B004MMEHKQ/ref=sr_1_7?crid=W2IPIB8G39C8&keywords=gear%2Btie&qid=1704288324&sprefix=gear%2Bti%2Caps%2C275&sr=8-7&th=1
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: beerduck on Jan 03, 2024, 07:44 AM
i tied and taped my allen wrench right to the flame king filler with spiderwire
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Jan 03, 2024, 08:00 AM
Yeah my solution was a small neodymium magnet on the filler neck.   It works for both holding the Allen wrench but also holding down the valve gate lever while filling (hands free).

On a side note, I did have a guy from Mr Heater contact me about my videos and wanted to clarify a couple of things so I hope to have a discussion with him and then do a follow up video about that.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RStock521 on Jan 03, 2024, 09:07 AM
Yeah my solution was a small neodymium magnet on the filler neck.   It works for both holding the Allen wrench but also holding down the valve gate lever while filling (hands free).

On a side note, I did have a guy from Mr Heater contact me about my videos and wanted to clarify a couple of things so I hope to have a discussion with him and then do a follow up video about that.

Good stuff.  Look forward to the video!
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Steeeeeeeeevee on Jan 03, 2024, 11:23 AM
Can anyone with hands on experience give me their opinion on the key ring? Is it possible for that to accidentally come open?
In the video it looked like an easy pull and quarter turn to get it to open, I don't always secure my flame king tanks or the things around them in my tub but it isn't an issue with them. My concern with these is that something catches on the key ring and opens it losing all my propane and possibly blowing me up.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Finnt on Jan 03, 2024, 01:29 PM
Magnet
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Jan 03, 2024, 09:01 PM
Did you buy this on-line by chance?
No, bit here's a link to one from Amazon.
Less than $4. Not the exact one that I have but better than the tiny wrench they come with.
I'm sure your local hardware store also has something similar that would work.

EKLIND 61605 5/64 Inch Power-T T-Handle Hex T-Key allen wrench https://a.co/d/01d6vIM
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: HWeber on Jan 03, 2024, 10:44 PM
As someone earlier was getting at I think, a couple magnets could also solve losing the hex key. Throw one on the big tank and one on the stand. I think I have ten hex keys if I were to find them all. Can get a dozen or more magnets for $10.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Jan 04, 2024, 08:24 AM
Another quick update on the Fuel Keg.  I spoke with someone in product management at Mr Heater yesterday.    I was able to get a lot of my questions answered. They are replacing my tank and explained what happened and why my tank seemed to be leaking when attaching to the heater.  It was my fault....

In regards to if you can accidentally open the bleeder valve, the answer is no, and in my next video, I will explain why and also go over what happened with my original tank. 

On a side note, you should brace yourself for the disposable tanks to eventually disappear, some States are in the process or have already put a ban in place, and also going to be banned in National Parks to start with and I can only guess it will snowball after that.






Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Steeeeeeeeevee on Jan 04, 2024, 12:56 PM
Another quick update on the Fuel Keg.  I spoke with someone in product management at Mr Heater yesterday.    I was able to get a lot of my questions answered. They are replacing my tank and explained what happened and why my tank seemed to be leaking when attaching to the heater.  It was my fault....

In regards to if you can accidentally open the bleeder valve, the answer is no, and in my next video, I will explain why and also go over what happened with my original tank. 

On a side note, you should brace yourself for the disposable tanks to eventually disappear, some States are in the process or have already put a ban in place, and also going to be banned in National Parks to start with and I can only guess it will snowball after that.

thank you, much appreciated!
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Jan 04, 2024, 01:06 PM
Why the heck would they ban them?
So we have to use up more disposable tanks?
I mean these things are designed to be refilled safely.
I don't see how they are that much different than a large tank safety wise.
And IMHO safer than the disposable green tanks.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RStock521 on Jan 04, 2024, 01:07 PM
Why the heck would they ban them?
So we have to use up more disposable tanks?
I mean these things are designed to be refilled safely.
I don't see how they are that much different than a large tank safety wise.
And IMHO safer than the disposable green tanks.

The disposables are what's going to disappear.  Which I'm probably fine with.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Jan 04, 2024, 02:33 PM
The disposables are what's going to disappear.  Which I'm probably fine with.
Ahh yes, I just reread it.
Makes sense! Thanks.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Splattypus on Jan 04, 2024, 06:26 PM
I can say that I'll be glad when the disposable tanks are replaced by refillable ones. Hopefully that doesn't happen until after supplies of refillables is strong (never a guarantee when govt mandates are in play)

Really looking forward to your next video. While I don't go through a ton of propane besides on my grill, to be able to top off and have small tanks on hand at any time would be huge. One brand or another, I'm going to start stocking up on refillables
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Jan 07, 2024, 07:04 PM
Here's another update on the Fuel Keg.  15% off at Menards right now.  I think these are going to work well, but some further testing  is needed.

Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Splattypus on Jan 07, 2024, 08:12 PM
Thanks for the video! Glad to hear some of the specific questions and concerns thoroughly addressed. I'm certainly very interested in these, gonna have to start keeping my eye out at menards for the, maybe start adding a few into this mix this season
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: holehopper on Jan 07, 2024, 10:11 PM
Thanks for the very thorough videos and information! Much appreciated!
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Steeeeeeeeevee on Jan 08, 2024, 08:14 AM
thanks for the update!
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Fishbonker on Jan 08, 2024, 08:25 PM
I saw your video over on IDO and the only question I have is does a MAPP gas torch head have the same size orifice as an LP torch? I'd have to guess that the MAPP gas is smaller than the LP which, to me anyway, would result in a smaller flame if the torch head is used with LP.

I would also guess that the dimensions of all the parts of the outlet of the Fuel Keg are the same as the Flame King, pretty sure they are all standardized except for the tab that is different than the Flame King.

I watched your Flame King vids several weeks ago and bought the Flame King set up then you posted about the Fuel Keg. I like the Flame King but I have to wonder if the ring and twist wouldn't be more convenient.

Thanks for vids.

I would have asked the question on IDO but I forgot my password and the site won't let me reset it password.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Jan 08, 2024, 09:46 PM
Hey thanks.  I did confirm with Mr Heater that the tanks are designed to work with any appliance or device that you would typically use 1lb disposable on.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: straightShot on Jan 09, 2024, 08:05 AM
I leave a 6" 5/64 Eklind Allen wrench (T-handle grip) tucked under one of the supports for the Flame King filler propane tank holder where it meets the green base, whatever that's called.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: fisherbob on Jan 09, 2024, 09:26 AM
Hey thanks.  I did confirm with Mr Heater that the tanks are designed to work with any appliance or device that you would typically use 1lb disposable on.

Website says - Connection Type: Standard Male 1" x 20 Propane tank connection

https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-16oz-empty-fuel-keg-tank/f200048/p-1642874297828344-c-6878.htm?exp=false
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: cwavs1982 on Jan 09, 2024, 12:20 PM
Here was another video going over the Flame King and the Mr, Kegs.  Been following this guy for years, he puts good videos out - pretty informative.

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Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Miles59 on Jan 09, 2024, 02:00 PM
Good comparison video there.  I like the simplicity of the Fuel Keg.

Home Depot (on line) has the Flame King refill kit + 3 bottles, all for $74.85.  That's almost like getting 2 free tanks.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-Three-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinders-with-Refill-Kit-YSN1LBKT-2CL/311513863 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-Three-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinders-with-Refill-Kit-YSN1LBKT-2CL/311513863)
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 09, 2024, 02:22 PM
Good comparison video there.  I like the simplicity of the Fuel Keg.

Home Depot (on line) has the Flame King refill kit + 3 bottles, all for $74.85.  That's almost like getting 2 free tanks.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-Three-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinders-with-Refill-Kit-YSN1LBKT-2CL/311513863 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-Three-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinders-with-Refill-Kit-YSN1LBKT-2CL/311513863)

When you break it down ..The tanks can be found for $16 with some searching ...the valve for about $20 ..so that stand for $6 . Good price for the kit . I like the stand ...find it very helpful .
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: HWeber on Jan 09, 2024, 02:46 PM
Can't get more simple than flame king's valve. Adding complexity to what should be a simple valve seems like it will cause more trouble than occasionally looking for a hex key.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RickWakeman on Jan 09, 2024, 04:04 PM
Good comparison video there.  I like the simplicity of the Fuel Keg.

Home Depot (on line) has the Flame King refill kit + 3 bottles, all for $74.85.  That's almost like getting 2 free tanks.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-Three-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinders-with-Refill-Kit-YSN1LBKT-2CL/311513863 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-Three-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinders-with-Refill-Kit-YSN1LBKT-2CL/311513863)

I have been going back and forth on this for 2 weeks. I don't use a lot of 1lbs but I'm thinking I might if I could refill them myself. They certainly can be convenient.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 09, 2024, 04:24 PM
RickWakeman...before I got the FK refillable tanks I was pretty stingy with the propane tanks ...only used them when it was brutal . I even had 2 tanks that must have been 5yrs old . Now that I am older and wiser ..and dont like to be cold I use the FK each and every trip ...I find myself staying longer and enjoying it even more ..defiantly a quality of angling life upgrade . Just being able to pack up my gear ...warm up in my shelter hub or flip ...then collapse and go is kind of priceless. Note I have since purchased a insulated flip which is also a game changer. The current innovations to our sport are worth the price of admission.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: filetandrelease on Jan 09, 2024, 04:50 PM
 I purchased my FK when it first hit the market , fishing cold isn’t an option , where I fill my 20# tank , works out close to $.70 per 1# tank fill even on really cold days I don’t burn more than a pound , HWD is right an insulated flip is well worth the extra jingle
 Either refill you chose will work in your favor
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Fish Butcher on Jan 10, 2024, 09:50 AM
For those that are not using the refillable 1 lber’s, and thinking about it, there is absolutely no reason to be skeptical. Best money ever spent.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: 4Buck on Jan 10, 2024, 12:48 PM
For those that are not using the refillable 1 lber’s, and thinking about it, there is absolutely no reason to be skeptical. Best money ever spent.
First year using the FK and loving it, wish I would have done it sooner. I bought the t-handle allen wrench that the member linked to me and it works great.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RickWakeman on Jan 10, 2024, 01:01 PM
You all are very convincing!  :tipup:
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Jan 10, 2024, 05:40 PM
RickWakeman...before I got the FK refillable tanks I was pretty stingy with the propane tanks ...only used them when it was brutal . I even had 2 tanks that must have been 5yrs old . Now that I am older and wiser ..and dont like to be cold I use the FK each and every trip ...I find myself staying longer and enjoying it even more ..defiantly a quality of angling life upgrade . Just being able to pack up my gear ...warm up in my shelter hub or flip ...then collapse and go is kind of priceless. Note I have since purchased a insulated flip which is also a game changer. The current innovations to our sport are worth the price of admission.

I was never stingy with the propane as my friends and family always insist on being warm and comfy.
 But what I did was always bring my eleven pound tank.
Which is fine when i'm towing things out with my snowmobile but heavy when towing by hand. Then there's the issue of having the extra hose and keeping it free of ice and snow.
But now that I have a few of the flame king refillables. I find i'm using them a lot more often.
They're just so much more convenient than hooking a hose up that wants to stay frozen in a coil etc.
Last winter I upgraded to an insulated shanty and I don't know why I didn't do it earlier.
What a difference that makes as well.
No regrets on either purchase!
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: holehopper on Jan 10, 2024, 10:19 PM
I was an early adopter when FK first came out. I tried them for a season and ended up selling the bottles and kit. My primary issue was being old and fighting with the hex key setup. It’s simple but when you can’t see without cheaters it is more difficult. Fast forward to this season. I bought a few 1 lbs tanks in a pinch at a local gas station. 2 for $12 was painful. I saw DTROs videos and thought I’d give the Fuel Keg a try. I filled 2 tanks tonight for the first time. Wow. I am very impressed with how easy and how well this system works. I actually went back to Menards tonight and bought 2 more tanks while they are on sale. I filled all four tanks tonight and was incredibly easy with the split ring valve. The stand fuel keg uses is also vastly superior to my FK experience.
Two other things I did was first to put some reflective tape on the kegs themselves. Just to remind me and others not to throw them away by accident. I also added a piece of painters tape on my 20 lbs tank and am adding a tick mark when I fill a bottle. Figure it will help me keep track of when I need a refill on the 20 pounder. Thanks again DTrO for the awesome videos you posted. Those videos are the reason I tried this product and I could not be more pleased with how easy and effective this refill system is.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Jan 11, 2024, 06:16 AM
I was an early adopter when FK first came out. I tried them for a season and ended up selling the bottles and kit. My primary issue was being old and fighting with the hex key setup. It’s simple but when you can’t see without cheaters it is more difficult. Fast forward to this season. I bought a few 1 lbs tanks in a pinch at a local gas station. 2 for $12 was painful. I saw DTROs videos and thought I’d give the Fuel Keg a try. I filled 2 tanks tonight for the first time. Wow. I am very impressed with how easy and how well this system works. I actually went back to Menards tonight and bought 2 more tanks while they are on sale. I filled all four tanks tonight and was incredibly easy with the split ring valve. The stand fuel keg uses is also vastly superior to my FK experience.
Two other things I did was first to put some reflective tape on the kegs themselves. Just to remind me and others not to throw them away by accident. I also added a piece of painters tape on my 20 lbs tank and am adding a tick mark when I fill a bottle. Figure it will help me keep track of when I need a refill on the 20 pounder. Thanks again DTrO for the awesome videos you posted. Those videos are the reason I tried this product and I could not be more pleased with how easy and effective this refill system is.

Glad to hear it went well for you and I would echo your experiences.  Thanks for the feedback.   While the Flame King works great and I would still recommend it,  I do think at the end of the day, there are a couple of minor improvements on the Fuel Keg that make it a better system.   This is how the market works, and is a good thing for us as consumers. 
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: ReleaseN2Grease on Jan 11, 2024, 01:59 PM
As someone who is considering purchasing their first heater, which refillable tank is the "best"? I don't have any of the gadgets or gizmos, so if anyone wants to throw in what adapters you need for which tanks, that'd be great. Thanks!
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: HWeber on Jan 11, 2024, 02:46 PM
https://www.scheels.com/p/flame-king-refillable-cylinder-1-lb-kit/89900300035.html

Tank, stand, and adapter. Flameking

https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-fuel-keg-kit/f200049/p-1642874297828530-c-6878.htm

Stand and adapter, mr. Heater

https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-16oz-empty-fuel-keg-tank/f200048/p-1642874297828344-c-6878.htm

Tank, mr. heater



Watch the videos dtro posted and make your own choice. Different people have different needs. If you have difficulty seeing up close, can't keep track of tools, or don't have the steadiest hands mr heater may be an easy choice. Personally I think flame king is the better choice but we all have our own needs and opinions
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 11, 2024, 02:59 PM
As someone who is considering purchasing their first heater, which refillable tank is the "best"? I don't have any of the gadgets or gizmos, so if anyone wants to throw in what adapters you need for which tanks, that'd be great. Thanks!

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-Three-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinders-with-Refill-Kit-YSN1LBKT-2CL/311513863
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: ReleaseN2Grease on Jan 11, 2024, 04:51 PM
https://www.scheels.com/p/flame-king-refillable-cylinder-1-lb-kit/89900300035.html

Tank, stand, and adapter. Flameking

https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-fuel-keg-kit/f200049/p-1642874297828530-c-6878.htm

Stand and adapter, mr. Heater

https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-16oz-empty-fuel-keg-tank/f200048/p-1642874297828344-c-6878.htm

Tank, mr. heater



Watch the videos dtro posted and make your own choice. Different people have different needs. If you have difficulty seeing up close, can't keep track of tools, or don't have the steadiest hands mr heater may be an easy choice. Personally I think flame king is the better choice but we all have our own needs and opinions

Thanks, I'm fairly ignorant on the equipment topic, helps a bunch!
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: fisherbob on Jan 12, 2024, 11:20 AM
Looks like they added a magnet as an optional accessory to the fuel keg and kit. Menards is still cheaper on the Flame King though? Just have to buy a second tank?

https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-16oz-empty-fuel-keg-tank/f200048/p-1642874297828344-c-6878.htm?exp=false
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 12, 2024, 11:40 AM
In store Menards 15% off bag sale ..not certain if it applies to the Fuel Keg system

https://www.menards.com/main/home.html



https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-16oz-empty-fuel-keg-tank/f200048/p-1642874297828344-c-6878.htm?exp=false


https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-fuel-keg-kit/f200049/p-1642874297828530-c-6878.htm?exp=false
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: ReleaseN2Grease on Jan 12, 2024, 12:11 PM
In store Menards 15% off bag sale ..not certain if it applies to the Fuel Keg system

https://www.menards.com/main/home.html


https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-16oz-empty-fuel-keg-tank/f200048/p-1642874297828344-c-6878.htm?exp=false


https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-fuel-keg-kit/f200049/p-1642874297828530-c-6878.htm?exp=false


I went to Menards yesterday and got two tanks for like $16 each thanks to the 15% bag sale
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 12, 2024, 12:16 PM

I went to Menards yesterday and got two tanks for like $16 each thanks to the 15% bag sale

Nice to know it works . Do you have the Fuel Keg Refill valve ?..it is proprietary to the Fuel Keg system.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Sturno on Jan 12, 2024, 01:02 PM
Nice to know it works . Do you have the Fuel Keg Refill valve ?..it is proprietary to the Fuel Keg system.

Yeah - The fuel keg kit needed is $29.99. Couple days left of the 15% bag deal. I just yank out a 20# tank with a splitter hose we tap a heater off of and a camp stove. If I went thru the small tanks way more than I do, I'd maybe invest in it....but I don't. Part of the reason I didn't bite on this thing.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RickWakeman on Jan 16, 2024, 10:37 AM
Well I received my flame king kit today from home Depot and the stand was missing from the box 😔
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 16, 2024, 11:22 AM
Well I received my flame king kit today from home Depot and the stand was missing from the box 😔

Go to the chat function on HD web site  they will have a solution whether it be a return price reduction or exchange EZPZ .

HD customer service has been outstanding ...I do all my CS exchanges on chat ...Go to a product any page ...it will load on the right side ...tab ...sometimes its take s bit . ..do mine on my lap top .
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: bobberbill on Jan 16, 2024, 11:54 AM
Local Menard's had 1 flame King refill kit, and no tanks. There was a good supply of the new Mr. Heater refillables and adapters. I still fill my Coleman's the old way with the tank adapter. I only use a couple a year. I run the 20# tank in my shanty.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RickWakeman on Jan 16, 2024, 03:10 PM
Go to the chat function on HD web site  they will have a solution whether it be a return price reduction or exchange EZPZ .

HD customer service has been outstanding ...I do all my CS exchanges on chat ...Go to a product any page ...it will load on the right side ...tab ...sometimes its take s bit . ..do mine on my lap top .

Customer service said they would contact flame king and have them ship me the stand and they would email me. My expectations are low but my fingers remain crossed 🤞

Also the tanks I received are between 11-12 months old. Since I would be the only one filling them, the date isn't really a concern like it is on the big ones, right?
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 16, 2024, 09:15 PM
Customer service said they would contact flame king and have them ship me the stand and they would email me. My expectations are low but my fingers remain crossed 🤞

Also the tanks I received are between 11-12 months old. Since I would be the only one filling them, the date isn't really a concern like it is on the big ones, right?

You should be fine with expiration .HD gave you a solution ..I would be confident ..you have a contact information or claim number just in case ?
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Jan 17, 2024, 06:11 AM
You should be fine with expiration .HD gave you a solution ..I would be confident ..you have a contact information or claim number just in case ?

The date on the tank is what they are DOT certified for.  I think it's 12 years from the date on the tank.  You can still continue to refill them, but that's all they will certify them for. 
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RickWakeman on Jan 17, 2024, 12:22 PM
You should be fine with expiration .HD gave you a solution ..I would be confident ..you have a contact information or claim number just in case ?

No case number, but someone from flame king did leave me a voicemail and told me they would be sending out the stand. And I received an email from someone at home Depot telling me the stand was sent from the vendor. No tracking info but that's not a big deal.

Since I have the valve and the tanks, is there an easy safe work around to use this without the official stand?

The date on the tank is what they are DOT certified for.  I think it's 12 years from the date on the tank.  You can still continue to refill them, but that's all they will certify them for.
Thanks!  :tipup:
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RStock521 on Jan 17, 2024, 12:38 PM
No case number, but someone from flame king did leave me a voicemail and told me they would be sending out the stand. And I received an email from someone at home Depot telling me the stand was sent from the vendor. No tracking info but that's not a big deal.

Since I have the valve and the tanks, is there an easy safe work around to use this without the official stand?
Thanks!  :tipup:

I don't use the stand.  I just put the tank near the edge on my work bench.  The stand keeps it from tipping when the big tank starts to get empty though, otherwise you've got to keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 17, 2024, 01:13 PM
No case number, but someone from flame king did leave me a voicemail and told me they would be sending out the stand. And I received an email from someone at home Depot telling me the stand was sent from the vendor. No tracking info but that's not a big deal.

Since I have the valve and the tanks, is there an easy safe work around to use this without the official stand?
Thanks!  :tipup:

It depends ...if your 20# base is fairly even/level a table ...stair ...pick up tail gate will work ...if it seems wobbly have someone help steady it while you fill the 1 pound tanks . I got quite an egg on my forehead which turned into a nice black eye due to a wobbly tank ...it was a soft knock  on my noggin...but the damage was horrendous .
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Jan 17, 2024, 02:27 PM
As noted in all of my videos.  The Fuel Keg stand system is much better.  The only knock on the Fuel Keg legs is that they require an elevated platform, you can't just set it on the ground and refill. 
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Percheye1 on Jan 18, 2024, 08:12 AM
Interesting, I've been refilling used disposable Coleman propane tanks for decades without issue.  (not transporting...)   Good to see other options on the market. 
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RickWakeman on Jan 20, 2024, 03:38 AM
Well Flame King did send me a package. It's the stand legs, the hardware to attach everything, but no base plate 😂
Progress.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: RickWakeman on Jan 20, 2024, 03:42 AM
It depends ...if your 20# base is fairly even/level a table ...stair ...pick up tail gate will work ...if it seems wobbly have someone help steady it while you fill the 1 pound tanks . I got quite an egg on my forehead which turned into a nice black eye due to a wobbly tank ...it was a soft knock  on my noggin...but the damage was horrendous .

I may have to give that a try, hopefully minus the black eye and the lump.
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 20, 2024, 08:03 AM
Well Flame King did send me a package. It's the stand legs, the hardware to attach everything, but no base plate 😂
Progress.

Well you will have a story tell for sure .
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Jan 20, 2024, 02:44 PM
Since I have the valve and the tanks, is there an easy safe work around to use this without the official stand?
Thanks!  :tipup:
I use the stand it came with.
But, I've heard that some guys use a milk crate. Put it in the open side of the crate.
Might have to cut out a little plastic for the valve though?
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: DTro on Jan 22, 2024, 06:31 AM
Just a quick update on this. I met with Mr Heater again and we discussed a few things in the videos that I posted. If you buy the Fuel Kegs, the one thing I would highly suggest is to keep an eye on the plastic sleeve and the rubber o-ring. They tend to stick and pull off from the filler valve. My best guess is that some of these weren’t fully seated from the factory. I noticed the plastic sleeve was sitting flush in the nozzle on my tanks and I was able to push it down further (about 1/16″). I think this should help. If you notice any suspicious leaking, confirm that this seal is in place.


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Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: donzov on Jan 22, 2024, 10:34 AM
Can either of these bottles be refilled with the old Mr heater adapter that many of us have already? They would be horizontal rather than vertical and would you have to mess around with the bleeder or can you just put them in the freezer like in the past?
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 22, 2024, 10:49 AM
Can either of these bottles be refilled with the old Mr heater adapter that many of us have already? They would be horizontal rather than vertical and would you have to mess around with the bleeder or can you just put them in the freezer like in the past?

You can use it on the Flame King ...kind of a PITA though ...no need to place Flame King canisters in the freezer ...just follow the procedure to fill the canisters...
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: bobberbill on Jan 22, 2024, 10:58 PM
Any Chineesium knockoffs on the market yet?  ;D
Title: Re: Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks
Post by: Flint on Apr 13, 2024, 09:27 AM
Just a quick update on this. I met with Mr Heater again and we discussed a few things in the videos that I posted. If you buy the Fuel Kegs, the one thing I would highly suggest is to keep an eye on the plastic sleeve and the rubber o-ring. They tend to stick and pull off from the filler valve. My best guess is that some of these weren’t fully seated from the factory. I noticed the plastic sleeve was sitting flush in the nozzle on my tanks and I was able to push it down further (about 1/16″). I think this should help. If you notice any suspicious leaking, confirm that this seal is in place.


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Bought a fill kit and three tanks. All had this problem and lost the nylon and oring. Mr heater totally sucks at customer service and I have given up trying to get them to help. Dig the nylons and rings out of your old disposable tanks to replace the junk Mr heater ones that go missing.

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