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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Equipment => Topic started by: frldyz on Aug 10, 2013, 10:34 PM
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http://clamoutdoors.com/ice_fishing/augers/augerconversionkit.html
looks promising.
might be fun and light to have in early/late ice
curious to hear peoples experience/reviews @ end of season
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Looks pretty nice, might have to give it a test run this winter.
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Looks pretty decent! I've never used a drill style auger, but I have done a lot of reading on them, sounds like if you keep the battery warm they do a good job, that's not a bad price either for the kit.
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Was reading about this and it says you have to remove the chuck from the drill to do this. Not a good idea in my opinion. Was really thinking about it until I saw that.
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They also have a gas auger 8 and 10 inch bits.
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Was reading about this and it says you have to remove the chuck from the drill to do this. Not a good idea in my opinion. Was really thinking about it until I saw that.
yes you have to remove the chuck but it gets replaced with a machined adapter that goes through the large bearing on the conversion plate and then the auger goes on the part of the adapter that is through the bearing. I actually got to see this in person at the Thorne Brothers fish house modification get together at Blaine, MN. It is a nice set up and I wouldn't worry about it being hard on the drill. most of the torque is placed in the large bearing on the plate and the drill is just used to turn the auger. I will be running it this year during early and late ice. after the ice gets to thick for this I will be switching over and start to use the new Clam Edge Gas Auger that I am getting too. I fore see good things to come from Clam in the area of augers in the next few years, but time will tell.
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Its only as good as the drill you put on it.
And a good drill is going to cost you a good chunk o change + the $150 for that device..
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i like this idea. as i pull my sled all over. and for 3 yrs now have been using the swede-bore 8" ( bad idea should got the 6") and my fishing buddies use the newer 8" two handed ones. GREAT.
i have tried to use a drill but is is hard as the torque Moves the drill. i am very excited to try (buy this to have two hands on for better control.
the question i have is more on the drill used. i read a lot of 18v will work great. but not all 18v are the same (please correct me if i am wrong) is there a minimum torque rated for it?
i have 3 18v drills 2 inexpensive black&Decker. a rigid ( seems to not hold a charge)
but KIJIJI i am sure has a used drill.
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i like this idea. as i pull my sled all over. and for 3 yrs now have been using the swede-bore 8" ( bad idea should got the 6") and my fishing buddies use the newer 8" two handed ones. GREAT.
i have tried to use a drill but is is hard as the torque Moves the drill. i am very excited to try (buy this to have two hands on for better control.
the question i have is more on the drill used. i read a lot of 18v will work great. but not all 18v are the same (please correct me if i am wrong) is there a minimum torque rated for it?
i have 3 18v drills 2 inexpensive black&Decker. a rigid ( seems to not hold a charge)
but KIJIJI i am sure has a used drill.
there is not a minimum torque that I know of. personally I would look for something that puts out 300 + inch pounds or more. the cheaper Black & Deckers normally put out around 100 to 150 inch pounds of torque. I was going to try a craftman 19.2 volt with 300+ inch pounds but couldn't get the chuck off it. I will now be getting a dewalt 20V. the most important thing is the capacity of the battery. most of the drills come with the compact battery which is only 1.5 Ah. Clam recommends getting a 3Ah or higher Battery. this is what was used in the testing. some of the drills used during testing included Panasonic, dewalt, millwakee, & rigid.
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thank you!
so what i keep hearing any 18v will do really is not perfectly true. so why should we buy this? a drill needed to work properly is $200 cdn (basic dewalt) over $200 for . plus conversion with or without auger blade.
we can get a gas auger for $350 approx.
i was really liking this idea. but now i have to buy a $200 plus dill. and the kit for 150$ usd. this is looking like a big pill to sallow.
or a good one for weight reduction for guys like me who pull their sleds everywhere.
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thank you!
so what i keep hearing any 18v will do really is not perfectly true. so why should we buy this? a drill needed to work properly is $200 cdn (basic dewalt) over $200 for . plus conversion with or without auger blade.
we can get a gas auger for $350 approx.
i was really liking this idea. but now i have to buy a $200 plus dill. and the kit for 150$ usd. this is looking like a big pill to sallow.
or a good one for weight reduction for guys like me who pull their sleds everywhere.
Well Im sure you already have a hand auger so just buy the plate for 50 and use your hand auger. Plus rigid has a lifetime warranty on all their batteries, and we all know that's where they get you on power tools, or even electric augers.
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yes i do have a hand auger. 8" normark.
wat i was saying is if need a new(diferent drill) i am close to $300 for this set up. i am already spending that i may as well spend $100 more and get the eskimo stingray.
so really i am having a hard time makign up my mind is i go ahead and buy this an hope it works or just get the stingray.
what would you do ( everyne on here)
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Me, I would by a good quality Cordless drill and use it on the ice, I have owned a Jiffy and was happy to sell it... Weighed to much, did not like to start, did not like the noise, the stink, the gas, the mixing of fuel, OH, did I say the weight... Also to have something that you spend a bunch of money on that sits there unused most of the year, just bugs me... As to a Cordless drill, I use it great deal all four seasons... Investing the money in a Cordless drill that even if I never went ice fishing again, I would be happy to own, would not bother me...
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Me, I would by a good quality Cordless drill and use it on the ice, I have owned a Jiffy and was happy to sell it... Weighed to much, did not like to start, did not like the noise, the stink, the gas, the mixing of fuel, OH, did I say the weight... Also to have something that you spend a bunch of money on that sits there unused most of the year, just bugs me... As to a Cordless drill, I use it great deal all four seasons... Investing the money in a Cordless drill that even if I never went ice fishing again, I would be happy to own, would not bother me...
thank you!! you made my choice way easier. not i have a excuse to buy one of those wicked combo kits i guess.
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Cali 009,
you are right about the cost if you have to buy everything from scratch, the price is close to that of a gas auger. but here is the thing to remember, most people already have some type of hand auger and most would have a name brand drill at home too. now you need to look at the pros of this (even if you bought everything). first off it will be light in weight(14 LBS with the tested drill) which is nice when pulling your gear out by hand. second it will shine come early and late ice. third no need to carry gas with. fourth and probably the best reason (even if you have to buy a different drill) is at the end of the ice season you can take it off the conversion plate and put the drill chuck back on the drill and have a nice drill to use for what ever you need it for. I don't know if you know this or not but with the Clam Conversion plate the chuck has to be removed from the drill and a adapter that comes with the plate replaces the chuck. also when the testing was done on this they found the greatest number of holes came from using a 6" bit and a battery with a rating of 3.0 Ah or more. based on the testing a 6" bit will give you about 40 holes, a 7inch would give you about 30 holes, & a 8 inch would give you about 20 holes. testing was done on I believe 16" of ice up on Mille Lacs lake in Minnesota. thicker ice will reduce the number of holes per battery but once the ice gets that thick a gas auger is better then anyways.
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Cali 009,
you are right about the cost if you have to buy everything from scratch, the price is close to that of a gas auger. but here is the thing to remember, most people already have some type of hand auger and most would have a name brand drill at home too. now you need to look at the pros of this (even if you bought everything). first off it will be light in weight(14 LBS with the tested drill) which is nice when pulling your gear out by hand. second it will shine come early and late ice. third no need to carry gas with. fourth and probably the best reason (even if you have to buy a different drill) is at the end of the ice season you can take it off the conversion plate and put the drill chuck back on the drill and have a nice drill to use for what ever you need it for. I don't know if you know this or not but with the Clam Conversion plate the chuck has to be removed from the drill and a adapter that comes with the plate replaces the chuck. also when the testing was done on this they found the greatest number of holes came from using a 6" bit and a battery with a rating of 3.0 Ah or more. based on the testing a 6" bit will give you about 40 holes, a 7inch would give you about 30 holes, & a 8 inch would give you about 20 holes. testing was done on I believe 16" of ice up on Mille Lacs lake in Minnesota. thicker ice will reduce the number of holes per battery but once the ice gets that thick a gas auger is better then anyways.
I bought this plate last night and installed it on one of my drills. I got it home and was impressed with the plate itself. Was a little disappointed to see "made in china" stamped all over the box, but I guess I should be getting use to that. This setup is very comfortable in the hands. I really like the way you hold onto it like a gas auger handle. This seems to be much much better than holding the drill itself. The assembly was pretty straight forward. I had a choice of two drills that I could have used. The two drills I had was the old XRP Dewalt 18 volt or the new 20 volt. I went with the much lighter 20 volt. The batteries are very light and very strong. The battery packs for the 20 volt are very small and will fit in my pocket very easy to keep them warm. The hardest part was getting the chuck off. After getting the chuck off the install went pretty smooth. I would like to let Clam know to stop using phillips drive bolts. I threw all the Clam bolts in the trash and used my own grade 8 bolts. The assembly went much easier being able to use two wrenches to set up the plate instead of a wrench and phillips head screwdriver. I set my auger plate up with a 6" lazer and it is very, very light. Exactly what I was hoping. I may pick up a 8" lazer and put it on to see how it does.
Overall, I am pretty excited to give it a shot. With a few minor tweaks of my own, I think I am going to like it very much.
Steuben1
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It's not necessary to be wealthy, as long as you're happy and can afford anything you want. :woot:
If you are mechanically inclined and have access to...... Well, never mind. :whistle:
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I am getting one to use with my 8" lazer. Like the idea of light weight with my back problems. Also I have a battery jump box with plug ins to use the battery charger for the drill. I will only be taking the jump box when I am on the sled due to the heaviness of it. I figure I can drill a bunch of hole first then put the battery on the charger.
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I also like the design of this adaptor but I wonder how practical this is. If you already own the auger bit and perhaps even a good enough drill this can only be used early and maybe late in the season. With that being said you still would need to have a gas auger for thicker ice during midwinter and probably into late ice. I usually pull a hand sled early and late season, but as soon as conditions warrant I ride an ATV with an auger mount. Most people try to limit the weight they drag with a hand pulled sled and is this set up with perhaps 2-3 extra batteries going to be any lighter than a gas auger.
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I also like the design of this adaptor but I wonder how practical this is. If you already own the auger bit and perhaps even a good enough drill this can only be used early and maybe late in the season. With that being said you still would need to have a gas auger for thicker ice during midwinter and probably into late ice. I usually pull a hand sled early and late season, but as soon as conditions warrant I ride an ATV with an auger mount. Most people try to limit the weight they drag with a hand pulled sled and is this set up with perhaps 2-3 extra batteries going to be any lighter than a gas auger.
it can be used on thicker ice but you will get less holes per battery charge. personally I wouldn't use it past 18" of ice. the product testing was done on 16" of ice using a 6" auger. this got 40 holes on a single charge (3.3Ah battery) if you go up to a 8" auger it got around 20 holes on a battery. there is a extension made for this too so you can get through the thicker ice.
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Picked up on last week, It will not work on a 19v Sears cordless drill, the bracket is too short, and the trigger will not reach the drill. Clam should put out a list of drills the plate will work with.
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By chance was it a compact drill ? In the market for a drill and that would be a game changer .
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It does work with a Craftsman 19.2v. You have to zip tie the drill to the bracket because it is too short, but it works. You have to play with the trigger mechanism to get it to line up.
I contacted Clam about the bracket being too short and told them that I tried two different drills. A Craftsman and a Bosch and neither of them fit correctly against that bracket. They told me to zip tie it. (Which I already did.)
All they need to do is make that bracket taller and it will fit most drills correctly.
Seems they may have rushed this to market. Clam states it fits most 18v drills but I'd like to see a list of drills it fits correctly.
I'm impressed with the idea but disappointed in their lack of foresight to make it fit all drills.
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700 inches of ice on a 3.3 ah battery translates to 116 holes through 6" of ice. That's a ton for us southern boys that rarely see over 12".
However I am working on a pack that will deliver:
250 holes through 6"
190 through 8"
152 through 10"
127 through 12"
109 through 14"
95 through 16"
and so on.....
The unit by itself looks uncomfortably short so the auger extension would be a must for 6' + folk.
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I haven't had much experience with gas augers so this may be a stupid question but is there augers that work better for fuel or electric augers? I bought a laser 8" hand auger last year with new blades for 35 bucks , basically because it was a little much for the guy who sold it and was planning on putting my 20v craftsman bolt on series to the test I bought a nimrod shaft for it and put together it spins great and is balanced great the only thing that I'm nervous about is if my chuck loosens enough that when I break through the auger and nimrod go for a swim any ideas on keeping that from happening
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I haven't had much experience with gas augers so this may be a stupid question but is there augers that work better for fuel or electric augers? I bought a laser 8" hand auger last year with new blades for 35 bucks , basically because it was a little much for the guy who sold it and was planning on putting my 20v craftsman bolt on series to the test I bought a nimrod shaft for it and put together it spins great and is balanced great the only thing that I'm nervous about is if my chuck loosens enough that when I break through the auger and nimrod go for a swim any ideas on keeping that from happening
You are about to strike up a whole new convo.... i was worried about the same thing. but never had the right drill to use. we are going use a bucket lid to make saftey plate. plus add some pool nodle to the shaft part to help it float.
if i dont get my clam converersion kit for X-mas.
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One thing we are over looking here is the old school spud. If the ice is less than a foot thick, I leave the jiffy auger home and bring the spud. Kept sharp, it works pretty well. It always starts and doesn't smell like gas. One can even keep warm using it. I favor mine early in the season for testing the thickness of the new ice. If the spud goes through on s good hit, the ice is two inches or less. Spud cost, $30 or make one for about $20, I have had mine for 25 years and it is still just as useful as the day I bought it.
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I want one of these for the sno bear. Anyone know where u can get one in Canada or would anyone be willing to ship one up for me?
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I want one of these for the sno bear. Anyone know where u can get one in Canada or would anyone be willing to ship one up for me?
Lebaron.ca MAIL ORDER.
or ask your local Clam dealer to special order
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I just bought this Clam setup plate , a New Dewalt 20v , gonna try it with my Mora 8 in bit . I used a New Ryobi 18v Saturday and only got 7 holes out of 1 battery pack 1.5 lithium. Returned Ryobi today and bought the Dewalt . I can't wait to compair between the different drills
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Lebaron.ca MAIL ORDER.
or ask your local Clam dealer to special order
Thanks Bunches
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I just bought this Clam setup plate , a New Dewalt 20v , gonna try it with my Mora 8 in bit . I used a New Ryobi 18v Saturday and only got 7 holes out of 1 battery pack 1.5 lithium. Returned Ryobi today and bought the Dewalt . I can't wait to compair between the different drills
I have read the real issue is with the 8in auger. People are seeing MUCH better performance (20+ holes) with a 6in auger.
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People you are not fishing for sharks! A 6" hole is plenty big enough.
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Lazer 6 inch or Mora 6 which would work better ?
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Lazer. You may get a little "skidding" when you stater to cut a hole, but it will cut better than the mora. Also wont get hung up when you pull it out of the hole.
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Dewalt 771 with 1.5 battery 6 inches of ice and a Mora 8 in drill = 10 holes
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ridgid x4 r8611501k life time warranty on batteries and drill 200.00, bass pro 6inch auger 43.00, I drilled 50 holes in 9-10 inches of ice and still had battery left, didn`t even need the spare battery. This is awesome and my back doesn`t even hurt, love this setup.
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Should I buy a clam 6in drill ( that comes with mount as a package 79$ replacement blades are 20$ ) or a Lazer 6in 89$ replacement blades are 29$ . Any opinions?
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Are you saying you can get the clam auger plate plus the auger for 79.00? Buy it.
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Sorry , !50$ for drill plate + 6in clam drill combo in Reeds catalog or 59$ for plate and 80$ for 6 in Clam seperatly , I bought drill plate for 50$ at Bass Pro they didn't have the 6in Clam drill .so I am using a 8 in Mora (http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae355/shawnslekis/246FBCC9-AD77-4DA5-940C-965AAFA1F799_zpsywsxnnvc.jpg) but its to much on the Dewalt 20v ( I got 6 holes threw 8 inches of ice with 1.5 lithium batt. today)I just ordered a 6 in Lazer for 80$ delivered on line. It is supposed to be delivered on Thursday ;D
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I was just curious about the price.
I made my own adapter for my 6" lazer. Did 21 holes threw 7" of ice on one 3 yr. old 18 volt battery.
I like the clam plate though.
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Just got my adapter in for my drill. Attached nicely to Fin Bore III 6in auger.
I opted to not use the clam plate because it renders your drill useless for anything other than an auger. With this setup i can take the auger off and use my drill as needed.
Total weight is 11lb 5oz.
I will give its first try out next weekend.
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg121/willcooper4/IMG_20140202_091846_zps1707a0c1.jpg)
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Better hope that pool noodle will float that auger enough so it doesn't go down the hole.
When I made mine I drilled a hole horizontally and put a roll pin in it. So between the auger and roll pin I put a 7" disk. I have dropped mine several times but have never lost it because of the disk.
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n617/ljc2tall/IMG_0650_zps7bda468a.jpg) (http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/ljc2tall/media/IMG_0650_zps7bda468a.jpg.html)
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n617/ljc2tall/IMG_0649_zps4b4e3018.jpg) (http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/ljc2tall/media/IMG_0649_zps4b4e3018.jpg.html)
The upper roll pin has been cut off because it caught my glove and about ripped my finger off.
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Im going to be adding a disc similar to yours made of 1/8in aluminum.
Not sure if i want to go the route you went, or make is so it spins like the ice master adapter.
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Forgot the manufacturer of this adaptor, but it's held up better than my drill over several seasons. The lexan disc has saved it a few times falling down hole...
https://imageshack.com/i/77cordlessadapterj
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http://www.farmandfleet.com/products/657280-hi-tech-fishing-11-power-ice-auger-saver-disk.html#.Uu_r8TYo74g I made one from a dollar store aluminum cake pan....worked well but got beat up ...so now I made one out of a 5 gal bucket lid ....thats working great ...if I could of found a frisbee that would be the real deal.
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My concern with plastics is in real cold temps if the auger drops and that plastic plate shatters...
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I put a 6 in Lazer on a Dewalt 20v and Clam mount and drilled 24 holes in 8 in of ice with a 1.5 battery :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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I caved in and bought the auger plate and a new 6" more hand auger. both items where on sale. the clam conversion kit was no tax and the hand auger was 704 from 110$ plus i had a 25 gift card from xmas
we tested it with a 18v makita. we got ab out 5-6 hole on 2 feet of ice.
i will need to find a stronger drill on sale.
but it sure is nice to use.
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I ordered the drill plate 3 weeks ago from bass pro and i used the craftsman 19.2 and it works fine. :o :o :tipup:
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still loving my clam plate!
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get the extension bit!!!! All of ottawa ontario stores are sold out....
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get the extension bit!!!! All of ottawa ontario stores are sold out....
i got my clam extension after my plate because they were all sold out. took at least 1 month or more to get extension after plate.
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Does anyone know if the Strikemaster extension would work with the Clam Auger and Plate? My other question are the blades on the Clam Auger, the same as the Strikemaster and will they be able to interchange them :unsure:?
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Does anyone know if the Strikemaster extension would work with the Clam Auger and Plate? My other question are the blades on the Clam Auger, the same as the Strikemaster and will they be able to interchange them :unsure:?
i think the strikemaster extension will work fine, just a fixed 12" length where the clam is adjustable up to 16".
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Can u put a 8" blade on it
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Can u put a 8" blade on it
if you have a big enough drill you can put 8 inch on it.
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Thanks just got my one lastnight . So ill have to play with it when I get home
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just got my one all set up and was trying to put the auger bit on an the bit doesn't goo all the way the holes only line up halfway. I'm using a strikemaster mora the black one made in Sweden. Is their anyway of fixing this if not can u steer me in the direction of wat 8" would work thanks.
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http://www.drockicecenter.com/drill-units/
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http://www.drockicecenter.com/drill-units/
The piece on the top of them unites is wat I'm having a problem with that extra thickness won't go all the way up
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just got my one all set up and was trying to put the auger bit on an the bit doesn't goo all the way the holes only line up halfway. I'm using a strikemaster mora the black one made in Sweden. Is their anyway of fixing this if not can u steer me in the direction of wat 8" would work thanks.
I would think the strikmaster lazer would work, I hear they are using the mora also, guess don't know what to tell ya!! Does a buddy have a lazer you could take handle off and try??
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Was just looking on utube think I might have to purchase the clam extender. Does ur buddy use the extender
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I have the extension on mine, from clam its adjustable, works fine!
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im using a 7 inch lazer on mine with the clam extender. the 7 inch lazer also fits without the extender, but i would have to get on my knees to drill holes.
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Got it sorted lads just had to losing the Alan key grips are at the connection feeling like a tool. Thanks for help all the same boys. And I think om going to get the extender just for that reason of not bending over as it is pretty short. Thanks again
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Was looking at hand augers to put on the clam conversion kit. The one that caught my eye was the nils master hand auger the light blue color hear good reports about it and 2 as just wondering how it fits on the plate. Thanks
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Was looking at hand augers to put on the clam conversion kit. The one that caught my eye was the nils master hand auger the light blue color hear good reports about it and 2 as just wondering how it fits on the plate. Thanks
you will need an adapter either made or get the one that the guy is selling on ebay like most people here seem to have now, i got one of them for when i actually buy a nils.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clam-Plate-Adapter-for-Nils-Ice-Auger-/181664184853?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4c077a15
this is the adapter i got for the nils to use on clam plate.
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Thanks buddy for ur help much appreciated