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New York => Ice Fishing New York => Topic started by: 04toyota79 on Dec 29, 2014, 09:10 PM
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Any new on diver lake conditions? Any info would be appreciated.
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Looked at the weatherbug camera earlier today and it looked like maybe just skim ice if that. Hopefully with the weather coming up it will lock up soon. If you go to weatherbug and put in perry, ny and then scroll down to veiw camera you can see the camera at silver lake marine.
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Thanks outlaw. Will look into it. Have a safe season.
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Didn't make it last yr but will Def b back this yr what a great time
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Or just go to the reports and conditions and the cam is right on the first page
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04toyota79= Backin79 ?
If so how you been brother ? Still rockin the yota ?
Have a great year:
Peace & Tuna
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Hey hot tuna. Must have me confused with someone else.
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the lake has ice on both ends north end out to sandy point south end 20yrds or so from cattails. with cold weather coming next week should be fishing soon.
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I am afraid to look Sunday afternoon. Wind, Rain, 50 deg. Monday will start day 1 again.
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Silver is locked up this morning, skimcoat
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the ice is still holding on the north end the rain help to get the snow off. lets hope the wind dies do so it can skim over. they are calling for more snow all week.
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Any update on how the ice held last night?
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most of the ice broke up need 1 calm night to skim over. still white caps on most of the lake.
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any help with the web cam?
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any help with the web cam?
go to the reports and conditions page. it is the 2nd link. looks like a pressure crack opened up by shore. it wasn't there earlier today when i looked at. kind of cool seeing it with time lapse photo
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That pressure crack was the neatest thing to see. Hope a lot of guys take a look because it seems to cross right in front of the lanch at the park. Tells me to go to Macks, have my coffee, and head out over there.
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there is two creeks that run thru the state park on each side of the boat launch some times it weakens the shore ice and this happens. just suck if your out fishing and it does it.if you go off this side early ice dont go to the left or to far right untill you out from shore a ways.I see someone get wet every year by getting to close to the creek mouths on early ice.
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Honestly macks is USUALLY the safest first
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Hey Buckskinner (or anyone else) -
Would you say that the crack to the south as seen on the camera is from the creek that enters down that way? Interesting if it is the direction it went. That ice in a curious animal.
Tight Lines and Hard Water
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How is silver lake looking anyone know how thick It is yet
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Check conditions board. Recent posts of about 2" shallow water by state launch
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We have been working on the lake the last couple days. About 5 or 6 fresh inches of snow since yesterday morning. Wind howling on the lake, but no bare spots so hard to tell snow depth out there. Looks like one small "duck hole" out in 20-25 feet of water out in front of the Y camp. Hard to tell for sure this morning as it was snowing pretty good when I drove by.
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Definitely not a good situation with all that snow on fresh ice. Someone is not going to be smart. I can see it now. Hope I am wrong.
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How has the water clarity been ?
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How has the water clarity been ?
??? Gotta have safe ice before we know water clarity???
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Guys will be fishing tomorrow ;)
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They all better be carrying spuds.
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They have been out 50-60yards on 3" yesterday...fish at your own risk! I'm not posting any conditions because we all lie anyways :-\
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where did the web cam go all I see is Geneseo
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Look at conditions page. 1st post has a link. But it is pointing down, cant even see the lake. Lol
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I though I was going crazy all I could see was the side walk
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Camera was not working last night now just pointing down!
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Camera is pointing at lake again
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So who's going this weekend??? As long as my wife doesn't poop out the baby before Saturday morning I'll be there
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Going to try it have a couple buddies going around tomorrow to check a couple other lakes to see which ones have the best Ice.
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If they go to silver could you please let me know the water clarity? Silver fishes pretty good when clear but goes right in the gutter for me when murky
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I am hoping to give silver a try next Saturday. Keep us posted if anyone goes out. Thanks
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Will do. I'm sure people will be out this weekend it will be more than safe by next weekend.
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That's what I am hoping weather as of now looks good all next week staying cold. I will be sure to post how I do. Thanks
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Let's hope silver escapes the snow storm!
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I'm excited it should be soon hopefully better than last year
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silver is getting pounded with heavy wet snow as we speak.Not sure how much this fresh ice will hold.be careful out there guys.spud is a must.if you are not sure then you probably should not take the risk.good luck and be smart
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Went for a cruise On lunch saw a couple people out in front of macks fishing. Really windy here looks like there was very little snow left on the Ice.
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That's one good thing about the wind!! Blowing all the snow off the ice.
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Any updates? Thinking of going tonight on north end about 25 feet. Might be dreaming though
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I'll be giving it another week . . stay on top!
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South end off Mack's was fine IMO today 3.5-4". Bite non existent
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Can anyone tell me how the water clarity is down there?
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Water clarity sucked
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hey fish master were you usin a camera
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hey fish master were you usin a camera
Fismaster don't need no stikin camera!! Lol. Bad water clarity means keep your camera home-and if Fishmaster can't catch them, you might as well stay home also!!
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any reports
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No camera for me I could see about 4-5' if I closed the windows in my hut
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thanks fm im goin tomorrow cam always helps in dirty water ill give report when I get back
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I have always done better in the dirtier water than the clear water for some reason.
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I have always done better in the dirtier water than the clear water for some reason.
50/50 split for me. some days better than others, stained or clear. I've accepted fishing in murky water. just need the right presentation and guys need to get over the fear of not being able to sight fish. get back to the basics and it will make you a better fisherman. although, I have to admit, sight fishing is fun.
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fished 5 hours off macks had cam down the whole time saw 1 pike and 1gill that's the worst I have ever done there moved 5 times from 5 feet to 8 feet never seen it like that and I have fished it alot over the last 5 years or so always atleast dinks or something
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Hey Stealthmode, were you using bait?
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I know sometimes you gotta move around to find fish sometimes that Lake can just be stubborn. but at least you're out on the ice
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maybe the 100s to 1000s of guys pounding the lady for limits of bluegills for the past couple years finally buckled er knees? Guys so no way but lets not rule it out yeah?
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How thick was the ice out there? I hope to go this saturday
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Ice was 3.5-5 inches that I saw.
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bite is late this year. was out for 4 hours last night. 30ft of h2o...couple small crappie and 1 perch
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Thanks for the info. Appreciate it! Hope to get some this Saturday. I will let u all know how I do.
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Went to Silver Lake Yesterday around 1 pm setup below Camp Asbury. Ice was 3-4" thick. Small perch lots of 4" maybe 5" Not many people on the ice
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bite is late this year. was out for 4 hours last night. 30ft of h2o...couple small crappie and 1 perch
Where were you when you were in 30 FOW and how thick was the ice? I want to get to the mid lake mud flats for perch. I would like to know from any of you guys if anyone has been out from Traber Rd. or Buffalo Point on the West side or the Pines or the Wyoming County Access on the East Side. If not have you seen anyone mid lake?
Keep on hauling
Perch Chacer
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Where were you when you were in 30 FOW and how thick was the ice? I want to get to the mid lake mud flats for perch. I would like to know from any of you guys if anyone has been out from Traber Rd. or Buffalo Point on the West side or the Pines or the Wyoming County Access on the East Side. If not have you seen anyone mid lake?
Keep on hauling
Perch Chacer
I go right off the town park, close to standpipe rd. Ice was (at the time) 4in of mixed.
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Going to try tomorrow if it aint raining to hard. Never ice fished silver lake before. Going to try for perch/pans. and throw a few tip ups out also. I will be dragging a blue sled and using a 6" nils auger. If your out there look for 2 guys, both tall, one fat (me). Dont think I will need the shelter tomorrow at 35-40 degrees.
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First time ever here. Fished 1-17 all day started out getting bait at Ackerman's Sunoco then walked on off Mack's. kept moving drilled 20 holes from 5- 30 FOW caught 20 perch 6" Had lunch at Mack's then went to the north end and did the same effort over 20 holes and all little perch out to 35 FOW. ALSO HAD 5 TIP UPS WITH big shiners out every time we moved. we missed one. Took the shiner that was hooked on a treble but no flag? where are the perch over 8"?
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Has the water cleared up at south end yet?
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Has the water cleared up at south end yet?
We were there Friday night looking for the crappie, half way between macks and the state launch..11ft of H2O clarity wasn't horrible...id say bout 3ft down
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Decided to go to Conesus. fished golden shiners, rosies, waxies, jiggin rap, white, pink, yellow, orange jig heads. not one bite. 8' fow to the left of Vitale.
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Fished Silver this morning. 4 shelters on the whole lake. Not 1 fish. We didn't even mark any. Fished off Mack's in 5-15 feet of water. Bare bottom or in the weeds didn't make a difference. My first skunk ever for me here. Been fishing this lake a long time.
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First time ever here. Fished 1-17 all day started out getting bait at Ackerman's Sunoco then walked on off Mack's. kept moving drilled 20 holes from 5- 30 FOW caught 20 perch 6" Had lunch at Mack's then went to the north end and did the same effort over 20 holes and all little perch out to 35 FOW. ALSO HAD 5 TIP UPS WITH big shiners out every time we moved. we missed one. Took the shiner that was hooked on a treble but no flag? where are the perch over 8"?
There isn't any they are all long gone nothing but dinks!! Honestly it's a wonder there is a fish left in that lake. I would hate to guess how many pounds of fish were taken out of Silver the last two years!! The gill's have been on fire right along with everything else. Give it a few years it's trying to heal its wounds! Lol! I need to make a correction, TAKE YOUR TIP UP's she is loaded with big fat PIKE!!
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If I had to pick a place to start fishing here it would be deep. The floating docks at the launch were on dry land for the last month they were in. The lake was very low before the ice came! But I would lean towards it being fished out! ::)
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To the people who think it's fished out your absolutely nuts!!! my buddy went there on Saturday and came home w 30 keeper gills and a couple perch. I didn't believe him but saw the pictures. That lake is to healthy to ever get fished out. I caught more gills and crappies of my dock this past summer screwing around w my 2 year old nephew then I have in 5 years of having a place on the lake. also the shocking report from DEC would blow ur mind away if u new how good that lake is! Can't wait to get out there Sunday!!
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I caught most of them out of here last year...sry guys
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I had such a slow day silverlakesslammer I caught nothing. At all. Might be the location, I've had luck in the past. I know there are fish in there somewhere but I definitely couldn't find them last week. Could you elaborate on DEC findings I'm intrigued.
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For those who think it's too big and healthy to be fished out, just ask anyone who fished Chautauqua pre-crappiethon.
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Icerogue did do his part lol... I remember that crappie limit pic from last year!
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Icerogue did do his part lol... I remember that crappie limit pic from last year!
lol to be fair...it was the only one I took out of there.
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Silver is far from fished out. The lake is 750 acres and maybe 6 or 7 acres get fished hard in the winter. Does anyone really think all the fish travel south to Mack's in the winter so they can get caught? The lake was weird last year. the water was very low and the algae was thick. It was almost impossible to troll because of the slime building up on the line. I think that is what is a big reason for the murky water. I'm not a biologist, but 20 years ago I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express ;D.
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Hey Doubles. Saw you on Seneca a few times last year. I hope we can repeat this year. Back to Silver. Last year we had the same problem so I just moved around a lot more and fished the north shore. Tried some new areas and did well on the pike and gills. That was later in the season though. Fished out - nope ;)
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Hello Pequod, Yes, can't wait for Seneca. That's all my buddy and I talk about when we're fishing. Silver can be a tough lake at times. Very fertile and far from fished out.
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only idiots would keep saying it's fished out. you just got to search for them. last season I came out 12 times. got skunked maybe 4 times but other times, I got some nice bags of fillets. and I stayed away from the "pack". sure she can be a tough at times but she rewards you very well with some patience. very healthy lake.
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Hard4ice I completely agree. I get skunked there quite a bit but once you locate the fish you leave with buckets full.
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hard4ice.. well said!!
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It's fished out
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Its really not fished out just been fished hard. Quality of fish is far from standard and its been that way for a few years especially for pan fish. Don't go into this lake thinking you will limit out on 12" Perch or even 9" Perch those days are pretty well gone. Are there fish that big in there Yeah there are just no numbers Expect fish in the 4 to 7" range maybe toss a few 8's in there on a good day. Gills? I have seen some real hogs in that lake again not many through the ice in the last few years but Like others said get away from the crowds. Pike Well I have slammed some real pigs there. Some well into the 30" class and a few pushing 40" Most however run in the mid 20's Finding them ? Anywhere on that lake I've gotten some real hogs over 30FOW and of course anything around weeds will work. Walleyes? My biggest eyes came off that lake. Fish pushing the 30" bracket was the biggest that was in open water Most Eyes are in the 20" bracket. Where and how? Secret Sorry. I put my time in fishing this lake maybe close to 40 years now. Is it a tough lake to figure out? nope not really I use basically two lures on this lake both of them are my own homemade lures. One thing I will tell you and you can take this any way you want.. I do not fish Florescent colors on this lake. If the water is clear stick with natural colors of browns Purples blacks and the brightest I use is orange. Many time people over jig these fish. Slow down go subtle jigging. That's about all I will say on this. I got my thoughts on why this Lake sees so many small fish but I wont air it here.
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Cold feet u ever have any luck in the winter for eyes? I have my spots for summer but never ventured to em in the winter. Usually just chase crappies,gills and northern but if we get good ice Im hoping to jig one up this year.
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Well about 6 years ago I fished Standpipe Road and as I was Pail hopping I kept seeing piles of dink Perch between 3-5 inches on the ice the piles had at least 25-30 in them and I seen at least 7 different piles I don't know what that was all about other then feeding Crows !!!!
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lots of dinks... use to catch a lot of good ones ten years ago
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Cold feet u ever have any luck in the winter for eyes? I have my spots for summer but never ventured to em in the winter. Usually just chase crappies,gills and northern but if we get good ice Im hoping to jig one up this year.
Yeah I got a few spots. for winter Eyes. Its not fast and furious but they are there. they are always on the move I will tell you that much. Another thing is they have plenty of food base. Don't think you will go out like Onieda and slam a limit of fish. But more like pick a couple here and there. On a last note when they want to eat there is no fooling around they will just slam you hard.
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Anyone recently been to silver? Been wondering what the water clarity is?
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Water murky , caught about 40 dink perch and 13 that were 10in very hard to catch used homemade jigs non glow with the WIFE'S fingernail polish , purple with silver specks on one side , orange with black specks on the other ,then hit some nice gills 9 1/2in right in the weeds won't be out again until Sunday I have to KILL some coyotes tomorrow
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Great post. coodfeet
Silver was my go to Walleye lake in summer's the end of 00's early 10's as well for good sized winter Perch.After Conesus dried up on Walleye for me in the early 00's 80+ fish/yr(have a place on the lake).Silver Walleye stocking was stopped by NYDEC in hopes to verify natural reproduction sometime late 90's and a decade later it showed,hard fishing for a limit at best. Don't know have any new stockings occurred? Walleye stocking = Quality Perch
Haven't even bothered with this lake in the last 4 years.
Silver Lake - Known as -" Home of the Dinks".
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I've only fished this lake once just got a boat a few years ago and went to silver last year. Didn't catch any big fish so decided to fish for panfish, and got on a school of very nice bluegill and out of those fish caught the biggest bluegill I've ever caught didn't get a length or weight but I measures on my battery and it was the length of the battery which is the size of a car battery.
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A bluegill??????
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32 Degrees
I had a camp on Silver back in the 80's I've been fishing that lake a little before that. People here want to argue facts that this lake isn't fished out. In one respect they are right there are tons of fish in that lake but when a fish reaches a respectable size its harvested. What's a respectable size? Bigger than a Dink? Perch keeper on Silver is what 7" now? Gill keeper is 6" or so? Come on lets get real with the harvesting. Does harvesting bigger breeder hurt? No because the Dinks are breeding but we are over harvesting better fish. Say what you want when you fish this lake now you see maybe 200+ huts many guys go out to take and get a meal what would be the harvest of fish per day from this lake? who really knows right? Years back when Conesus was on fire if you saw 50 guys on all of Silver per day that was a lot. Perch fishing you could not keep them off the hook not like today where you need to work for every fish. Has the body of water changed? No still the same thing as it was from the 1990's But I feel that fishing pressure has put a hurt on this lake as it has on many others. Basically due to improvements in our methods of fishing. The huts we used have made it comfortable to sit out on the ice on super cold windy days. The heaters we use The electronics you name it it all has improved our fishing. Thus with those improvements also improves fish catch rates. Lets just ask how long does it take for a fish to reach a decent mature size? Lots depend on habitat such as food base growing season and fishing pressure. If you continually take out what we consider a edible size fish eventually you run out of that fishes year class and anything before that year class too leaving the next year class and year after which is smaller fish correct? So eventually all you see is short fish. The only fish species that's holding its own is the Crappies because NYS put a 10" harvest limit on them along with a 25 fish a day harvest limit. Even with that I have seen the Crappies on this take a big down swing. Spring time fishing years ago would reward us with some real hog Crappies and numbers to boot. But you also did not want to ruin things and kept only what you would eat. Other nay sayers who feel that Fishermen have not hurt this lake only have comebacks of This lake isn't fished out there are plenty of fish. Well where are those plenty of keeper size fish? Where are those 10" Perch? how many bucket fulls of them have they caught this year? They are right the lake has plenty of fish but fishermen take those almost keeper size Perch and Gills because they can. Those are my thoughts and I will stand by them until I hear a better explanation why this lake or others haven't produced the fish we had years ago.
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Very well put, I agree to that exactly. :bow: My dad brought me to Silver in the mid 6o's starting me when I was 4, we used dowel rods with Dacron line for our poles [ no flashers ,no fancy jigs ] and we caught nice big perch and gills out deep but only enough for a couple meals.
We didn't pound them day after day taking our limit also there were only a hand full of fisherman then. I've caught nice fish there up to about 2006-2008 but its really gone down hill...
Technology & Greed
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Amen
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so my question is......where are the good ole days...now? its not that i disagree, but it seems like talk of doom and gloom on the reports from conesus sodus silver the ponds in greece cuba??????? other than oneida where is the water where pics get taken and guys have weekends they remember forever???? oh dont forget irondeqoiut
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Silver is not a fertile lake to begin with. With little input of water to resupply it with o2 during the winter and a thermocline the stratifies the lake all warm water season; thus making the lower water column below 10' uninhabitable, it is little surprise that the lake can't handle heavy fishing. Add on enhanced nitrogen runoff from the modern fertilizers as well as the manure based fertilizers and you have a lake ready for the killing. Fisherman do make an impact, but are only part of a larger assault on the population of fish on the lake. Chautauqua is pretty big and has enough year round o2 levels, yet the fertilizer and sewage runoff into the lake feed a crippling algae bloom that wipes out the o2 and causes a mass die off. When the algae dies, it make a layer of rotten material on the bottom, this uses up all the o2 in the area and eventually causes the ANAEROBIC bacteria to take over. Botulism sets in and more things die. Cayuga sees the same thing. I grew up there and have seen the change happen. The fishing pressure is the visible side of a greater problem.
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The fishing pressure is the visible side of a greater problem.
Although I can agree with that statement, I am not so sure about the water being uninhabitable below 10 feet. I catch GOBS of fish below that, and even below 20 feet, in all four seasons.
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Zadvorney
I agree this lake and many others suffer major algae blooms in fact Silver also is having problems with the dreaded Blue Algae. Does Silver have a depleted 02 level. I doubt it although some claim yes. I fish this lake enough to know you get plenty of fish deep both summer and winter. The hills around Silver have been there from the beginning the one major farm on the West shore also has been there for years Manure running into this water shed? Not happening they have a lagoon and are not really allowed to dump on fields draining into the lake. This lake also has all its homes and cottages tied into a public sewer system unlike it was in the 80's. So in reality the pollutants that fertilized the weeds are long gone although the weeds thrive in this lake and many others in NY. What is happening is siltation. These lakes are slowly filling in Silvers inlet creek at one time was a easy navigation with any boat. unlike today where you bottom out 300 yards from the mouth out into the lake itself. The weeds are pushing out deeper and every year they die off the remnants decompose and add to siltation. You really are spot-on on this but there is a lot more to this that I feel is being missed by the DEC. What can be done? God only knows would Dredging help? I think it could but also removing the silts you need to replace a fish habitat for eggs such as some vegetation and a rock rubble areas for the other fish such as the Walleyes and SM Bass. Etc. Slowly our lakes are dying they all do eventually. Do we need to have stronger laws enforced? Such as lower Limits or size limits or maybe a closing of ice fishing for a couple years? Boy I sure hope not but maybe put a little self control on ourselves.
Wizzard
those days in the 2000 were damn good fishing. Nice size fish for sure some pushing 12" Not a lot of fish but enough for a meal or two. It was way too short lived it was like we saw a ok fishery turn into a excellent fishery and the internet told it. I remember seeing those days where hundreds of guys showed up on this lake and pounded the hell out of it day in day out. Those bigger fish were gone in a short time like maybe 3 years? Do I think they got fished out? I sure do there was no fish kill in that lake and the pike didn't eat them all that's for sure. all I know is it is pretty sad we do not see this ourselves and regulate ourselves but need to wait till the DEC steps in. and with pan fish I don't expect to see that happen.
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Lol fished out
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And just cuz this lake gets pressure through the ice means nothing, the other 9 months of the year it's normal to pull in the launch and have only a handful of boats out. I love how all the people who fish this lake even a few dozen times a year come to these great conclusions about a fished out lake to make themselves feel better for their lack of success. Ask anyone who fishes this lake year round on a regular basis, it is far from dead, sure just about every other lake is better, but it's a small over-sized farm pond...that is FULL of fish
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Age old question with silver lake and if it can handle fishing pressure
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Ron I forgot to give my 02 on your question lol not that anyone wants to hear it though. Fishing and the good old days.. Memories are built on having fun Those good old days saw plenty of days not catching fish too problem is we try not to remember them. We remember the days of catching a 15 lb Pike or our first 18" Bass or one of my best memories is my sons face at night reeling in his biggest Walleye a solid 10lber on Silver Lake in fact. The look on his face when those big Marble Eyes reflected off our head lamps. Those are good old days. Memories of me as a kid with all the neighbors fishing creek chubs down at 18 mile creek in Boston. Or the first time we started catching big Smallies out of 18 mile creek. Those are Good old days. The Good old days also Not so good were coming off the ice on Silver back in the 80's and having a foot of ice give way under my feet sending into the drink in 20 FOW. Or having some clown swamp my boat in the summer while I was trolling. I will say though any time fishing will be good old days eventually for everyone. We just got to enjoy any form of fishing you can. For many its watching a kid hang on while a 15 lb Carp has its way with them. Or watching a kid or ourselves for that matter catch Bullheads in the spring on UL rods. Good old days might not be reeling in our favorite fish or slaying Perch and Gills but you can make some great memories fishing what we can One of my good old day memories was not really catching lots of fish or big fish for that matter but being on a trip up in the Adirondacks 5 of us most of the guys 50+ years old Sitting on shore catching Crappies as stupid as it is as a boat would go by and the waves crashed the shore each guy would rock back and forth like we were sitting in a boat getting slammed by wakes. Picture 5 guys in unison rocking back and forth and slowly stopping only to do it again when another boat passed. We had the people in the boats wondering WTH we were doing. It probably looked stupid but that's one memory I will go to my grave with you just had to be their. Those are Good old days.
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I can say this I don't lack in the success of catching fish on this lake No brag I spent lots of time learning it. It is finicky at times but fish can be caught. I don't say its fished out because there are millions of fish in it but will go back to size again. and year class. These dinks that are caught are not 10 year old fish stunted because of water temp or lack of forage for them to grow. How many time do you see those fish blowing out blood worms? their guts are full of them so they are eating quite well. So with all of that going for the fish Question is where did those 10 to 12 " Perch go from the 2006 era?
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read the article in the ny outdoor's this edition by dave genz very good info that highly pertains to the fishing pressure on this lake it's almost like it was about this specific lake and yes i have fished this lake for almost 35 years it used to be on ny top stocking list for walleye's maybe predators weeding out some of the smaller perch helped keep perch population ( stunting)in order then they went to honeye . seems might be alot of planets aligning against silver . fishing pressure , sedimentation , loss of predators and mismanagement and they do spread liquid manure right bfore the state park same side of the lake. hope mother nature helps us out :'(
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Thanks cold feet & wizard & others, a lot of incite per local knowledge.That lake was prime for the picking and that it was.Still think that more Walleye stockings could make a difference in the Perch size? Seemed to somehow be linked together. Funny thing was most of the winter eye's taken were full of juvenile Crappies.
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They spread manure by the tanker full all over the Silver Lake drainage. Then there's the fertilizer and pesticides used by the farms and country club, untreated sewage by some cottages not upgraded, leaves and debris tossed in by cottage owners in spring and fall............it goes on and on.
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Seems all the Dave Genz clones have been pretty quiet on the R & C board lately. The reports of "I did poorly are up". Maybe its mums the word and reports of bad fishing is a ploy to keep the thundering herd away :unsure:. I doubt it, people love boasting the latest catch, A select few can zip it, the majority must earn their stripes by posting proudly and loudly its how it rolls. I will not try to wow anyone with my environmental knowledge on eutrification or the affects of 100s if not 1000s of guys plucking limits of bluegills. I will say, the parties over...for now. Is the lake fished out? Go ask SHOULDABEENHEREYESTERD AY. He has been screaming til his face turned purple and stomping his feet that it is in fact NOT FISHED OUT. I agree with him, it is not fished out. Is Silver Lakes knees buckled? Absolutely. Is she dead? not a chance...What does this mean? it means next years Herd will be thinned a bit on the lake. Did You See Mayville yesterday??? :o
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this lake is not fished out. i have lived and fished on this lake over 45 yrs i get fish in the middle of July in 30' of water. this lake is spring fed by many springs the o2 levels are good through out the lake. I think the spots have changed were you get the better fish. and most people just do not but the time in to find them fishing presser will move fish as we all know. but most people just go back to the same old spots and say there are no fish left. just my 2 cents.
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NO NO NO....it IS fished out. I started my assult a few years back...Its best if you all just stay away.....far far away.
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this lake is not fished out. i have lived and fished on this lake over 45 yrs i get fish in the middle of July in 30' of water. this lake is spring fed by many springs the o2 levels are good through out the lake. I think the spots have changed were you get the better fish. and most people just do not but the time in to find them fishing presser will move fish as we all know. but most people just go back to the same old spots and say there are no fish left. just my 2 cents.
Soooooooooooooo, fish that like shallow weedy areas and that have been there for countless years just pull up shop and relocate? Your also trying to convince the jury that an area that normally has literally 1000s of mature sized fish for the masses to enjoy has simply been vacated to the point of virtual nonexistence? Again, I am not a marine biologist nor an environmental science expert. But the jury has gathered the facts and believes that the good portion of these fish have ended up as products of smile creating photobucket material. With im sure a good portion have fallen to victim of laziness and into landfill. The good news is as the fishing grows to be more challenging the elbow room grows exponentially on saturday afternoon......Have You seen Mayville this year??? lol
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yes fish that are pressured will move to deeper water or cover. or just not bite. and with all the cold fronts moving through every other day it has more to do with the bad fishing this year. because it is happening on a lot of lakes not just silver. ps some of my best gills on this lake have come from deep water. not shallow weedy.
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yes fish that are pressured will move to deeper water or cover. or just not bite. and with all the cold fronts moving through every other day it has more to do with the bad fishing this year. because it is happening on a lot of lakes not just silver. ps some of my best gills on this lake have come from deep water. not shallow weedy.
Alrighty then.
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The gills are somewhere. During the spawn the past couple years, you see hordes of big ones in the shallows like every other year. If all the mature fish have been taken, why aren't we seeing all the dinks left behind on the camera or sight fishing? I have not been there this year, but last year I would drill a dozen or two holes over the course of many hours and not see a single fish on the camera, big or small. This tells me they are not there, at least where I was. I believe some years they settle into the areas we like to fish, and some years they don't. Who knows the factors than might contribute to this? Environmental? Man made? Both?
How many times have the fish been on fire in the SE corner while the SW corner is void of fish all together, then two weeks later it flip flops? What's to say they don't vacate both corners for whatever reason?
My guess is it is food related, as most all fish movements are. Perhaps their food source in the shallows is not present for some reason.
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I usually fish shallow for gills....today I went deeper...and will be eating good for a couple days!
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The gills are somewhere. During the spawn the past couple years, you see hordes of big ones in the shallows like every other year. If all the mature fish have been taken, why aren't we seeing all the dinks left behind on the camera or sight fishing? I have not been there this year, but last year I would drill a dozen or two holes over the course of many hours and not see a single fish on the camera, big or small. This tells me they are not there, at least where I was. I believe some years they settle into the areas we like to fish, and some years they don't. Who knows the factors than might contribute to this? Environmental? Man made? Both?
How many times have the fish been on fire in the SE corner while the SW corner is void of fish all together, then two weeks later it flip flops? What's to say they don't vacate both corners for whatever reason?
My guess is it is food related, as most all fish movements are. Perhaps their food source in the shallows is not present for some reason.
That is definitely a well thought out rationalization. This trial is yet to be decided. May we submit exhibit 1.247-Z under environmental code project Fat lady hasnt sung her gills out yet to the jury please. :woot:
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just because we just got safe ice....this is not a first ice pattern. Mid winter.....fish are closer to the deep basins. :whistle:
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Evolution....... if people fish the same spot year after year what do you think is going to happen? The fish are there. Try a new spot thats not in the middle of 10 other shantys..... ;D
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fished today, put in at the boat launch and walked north a bit. started at 12' of water and moved out to 25'. i probably drilled 20 holes and caught fish on almost every single hole from 15' out. once i got into 20'+ the flasher was going nuts on every hole. I've never caught so many fish, so quickly, from so many different holes. unfortunately the biggest perch were maybe 7". I'd pull up a few dinks, move 10 yards pull up dinks, move 20 yards pull up dinks, etc. it seems like the entire bottom of the lake in 20'+ of water is carpeted with 5" perch.
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Evolution....... if people fish the same spot year after year what do you think is going to happen? The fish are there. Try a new spot thats not in the middle of 10 other shantys..... ;D
just because we just got safe ice....this is not a first ice pattern. Mid winter.....fish are closer to the deep basins. :whistle:
that's basically what I said in my last post. get away from the crowds and go deeper.... fish are always on the move. I've dropped my camera down a hole there and seen schools of gills in deeper water when no one has been getting anything in the weed beds. keep searching if you can't find them. seems like the "weekend fishermen" can't do their own homework
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seems like the "weekend fisherman" must have jobs during the week, and dont have time to cover the whole lake.
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well that's why it's called fishing but, don't worry we'll do the work for you when it comes to finding the fish and post it all on here to stop all the crying "where are they?" ...by the way, I work too but have no problems finding them, hence doing my homework
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don't believe a lake that size can get fished out but something has changed the last 3 years 4 years ago and beyond you could fish 10 feet and less and see the bottom crystal clear the last 3 years your lucky if you can see your jig at all at 3 feet weeds are very scattered used to have to find pockets in thick weeds now you can drop down almost anywhere and hit bottom yep something has changed
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Your right it's fished out, bone dry ,nothing but dinks so go some ware else! Or try harder that's the Question
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seems like the "weekend fisherman" must have jobs during the week, and dont have time to cover the whole lake.
You got it.
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don't believe a lake that size can get fished out but something has changed the last 3 years 4 years ago and beyond you could fish 10 feet and less and see the bottom crystal clear the last 3 years your lucky if you can see your jig at all at 3 feet weeds are very scattered used to have to find pockets in thick weeds now you can drop down almost anywhere and hit bottom yep something has changed
A little history. Years back (in the early 60's) we used the large wobble wright lures with perch eyes and long 5' poles and reels and caught all the 10-11" perch you wanted and even a few larger ones. As the years went by (late 60's) the short jigging pole showed up and the jigs got a little smaller like the Russian hooks, Willow leafs or the Conesus jigs but they were still far larger compared to what is used today. Best bait was still perch eyes. Then through the 80's and 90's tackle continued to get smaller and line lighter. My point is that no lake stays the same, this lake has changed about every 10 years to a different method to catch perch. For years now these perch in Silver Lake have been bombarded with small tiny jigs and small baits just right for the smaller faster perch to catch. I am not saying go back to the 60's, but you need to find out what new fishing method will work today. I think the light small outfits and jigs are lending themselves to the smaller perch. You guys with cameras must see the larger perch down there today. I see them on my aqua view, not a lot but there are larger perch in the deep water mixed with the small ones. They just don't hit as quick as the smaller perch. You say what is this new fishing method, I don't know, I've tried everything, but if you have fished this lake as long as I, you will know the fishing methods have changed many times. This lake is not fished out, I think those things I see on the aqua view camera are perch and a lot of them. Keeep on trying I do.
Keep on hauling
Perch Chacer
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Perch Chacer out of curiosity are you still able to catch 10-11 inch perch consistently? Do you ever get a bucket full?
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I don't believe anybody catches them by the bucket loads..but does anybody really need a bucket load every time they go out fishing. Wouldn't 15 -20 perch, in the 10 - 11" range make a few nice meals? Then there would be a few more left for the next time on the ice, and give guys a reason to get out of the house and go fishing again!!
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Some people don't go out much. When I go to panfish I want to make it worth my while in time and money and keep my limit.
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Well my bucket only holds 15 11 inch perch
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I don't believe anybody catches them by the bucket loads..but does anybody really need a bucket load every time they go out fishing. Wouldn't 15 -20 perch, in the 10 - 11" range make a few nice meals? Then there would be a few more left for the next time on the ice, and give guys a reason to get out of the house and go fishing again!!
For my family (wife,son and myself) 20 perch is 1 meal.
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Perch Chacer out of curiosity are you still able to catch 10-11 inch perch consistently? Do you ever get a bucket full?
Haven't been to Silver this year, my son keeps wanting to go to Chat. Been fishing Chat for 2 weeks, we did a nice mess of 8-9" perch last Sat's with a few 10" at Long Point, and a lot of shorter ones as through backs, hard to give up a good thing. I do want to try Silver again this year and I will go back to old school when I do, willow leaf or swedish pimple with perch eyes or oak leaf grubs in deep water. I saw them on the camera so I know they are there.
Perch Chacer
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Out fishing is better then being at work lol
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Well my bucket only holds 15 11 inch perch
I agree especially when u drive hr plus just to fish
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Dose any body now how much snow on ice
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Went out last week there was about 4 inches or so probably more than that now i assume
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Thanks for info
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Depends where you are for the snow cover. Was out of the pines on Friday and it was drifted there pretty good in spots. Ice was a solid 9.5 inches with 4-10 inches of snow on top.
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On Jan 31st I went out off Taber Rd, drilled 15 holes in all depths of water, and on my camera the only fish I saw was one northern pike. HAS ANYONE SEEN ANY FISH IN ANY OTHER PART OF THE LAKE?
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fished 3to5pm got 15 keeper perch 10to11" tons of dinks mixed in. nonstop from time the jig hit the bottom. big ones chased it up 8' before they hit. used a 3" jigging spoon still was getting 4" perch on it.walk sucked a foot of slush and water on top of ice.
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Went to the deep water -35' on Silver -Wed. The shore was drifted out about 20', once past that there was a foot of snow over 6"of slush almost everywhere I walked - terrible. When I did get holes drilled I saw fish on the graft near the bottom. Started with small jigs and grubs - nothing but 3-4" dinks non-stop. Changed to a large willow leaf jig and then a large swedish pimple and perch eye (old school fishing) and started catching 8-9" perch the dinks only hit the larger jig once in awhile. So to all that say this lake is dead the larger perch are there, you just got to try different things.
Perch Chacer
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Dink perch in Silver Lake - why? After some investigation and a few phone calls this is what I found out. There are zebra mussels in Silver Lake and the proof is when the Village of Perry cleans the water intake screens at the end of Standpipe Rd. they are covered with zebra mussels. Zebra mussels filtrate the water and remove the pyhtoplankton. Phytoplankton are microscopic water bugs which are eaten by different lake creatures like blood worms, freshwater shrimp and small bait fish. The blood worms, freshwater shrimp and small bait fish are eaten by the perch. If the population of phytoplankton has been reduced by the zebra mussels then there may not be enough feed for a good healthy perch population. Perch will grow to 8" in 4 years in a well balanced lake ecosytem. If food is insufficient the perch may remain short or grow at a slower pace. This could be one of the reasons for what is happening in Silver Lake. The zebra mussel infestation may not get extreme due to the fact that Silver Lake is mainly mud bottom and zebra mussels need solid structure to attach to, but any effect on the ecosystem may effect the perch. But combined with other reasons like the state stopping the walleye stocking program the predator fish population could be down. This is for information only and some people may not agree with the above information and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Perch Chacer
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Lots of Zebra mussels in Seneca and Keuka and the Perch are huge!!
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Ton of zebras in erie bit the perch are huge
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both of those lake are huge compared to silver.
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they don't need to have a walleye stocking anymore. lake is full of em just have to know what they prefer! Or u smack em in the head w a lure haha its ether on or off w walleye bc of how healthy the lake is, I'm not opposed to adding more in silver but I do know their is 10 diff year classes of eyes and lots of em. Reproduction is in full swing at silver only gonna be better from now on after last summer of what I caught.
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I'm wondering what lakes in wny don't have zebra mussels? I know they are in all the finger lakes, silver, Cuba etc. So are these lakes only able to support 8" perch? A lake can only support so many perch before they start to become overpopulated and stunted.....iMO the problem is lack of pressure, so many better places to fish perch so not enough people keeping them...lake has an"over abundance" of walleye according to the last several Dec shocking and the pike population is always there so definitely not a lack of predators. Keep more perch and the rest will grow. You can never keep too many, the rest will only grow faster and larger!
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they don't need to have a walleye stocking anymore. lake is full of em just have to know what they prefer! Or u smack em in the head w a lure haha its ether on or off w walleye bc of how healthy the lake is, I'm not opposed to adding more in silver but I do know their is 10 diff year classes of eyes and lots of em. Reproduction is in full swing at silver only gonna be better from now on after last summer of what I caught.
There defiantly are young Eyes here. Found a few last summer.
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o130/Dblsshtr/IMG_0797_zpsu9ao9bp0.jpg)
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Double shooter this was the first year I caught little ones constantly. Which is an awesome sign for future years bit def caught a good amount of keepers this year! And all fish would over 20 and fat!
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Glad to see the walleyes are established in this lake, they should be able to reduce some of the smaller perch over the next few years. One other thing I noticed this Winter was the keeper perch 8-10" I am catching do not spit up blood worms or fresh water shrimp as they used to years past, and when cleaning them their stomachs were empty. Without sufficient feed for the perch they may grow slower even with the predators feeding on a lot of them. Has anyone else seen this lack of food in the perch they have caught?
Perch Chacer
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I don't believe zebra muscles will affect the perch in a bad way. Go fish erie deep water and watch the perch puke up zebras on the boat deck when you get them in. They will utilize the food source and eat them.
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Hello can any body tell me if any body has taken a snowmo out on silver looking to leave st launch and do any oldtimers no of any springs on silver that a mobiler should be aware of years ago found some thin spots down by golf course when you could park down there or has any body fished on west side by that red light house i will call it some of you guys might remember ray from macs. Bait shop is he still around thank you for any info
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Macs is still there diff owners now, last I knew they don't have any bait. And last time I was out wheelers and snowmobiles were all out on the lake.
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Hello can any body tell me if any body has taken a snowmo out on silver looking to leave st launch and do any oldtimers no of any springs on silver that a mobiler should be aware of years ago found some thin spots down by golf course when you could park down there or has any body fished on west side by that red light house i will call it some of you guys might remember ray from macs. Bait shop is he still around thank you for any info
Sorry to have to tell you this, but the state launch is actually in a state park. it is not legal to operate a quad or snowmobile on park grounds to access the ice. What I've done in the past is top access the ice with a machine at Mac's. One guy brings the vehicle and trailer back to launch as the other brings the machine over. We drag our stuff down to the ice and load up on the ice.
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Worst spot I have ever found for springs is right in between the to spots you mentioned the the "red light house" and the Country Club.Just off Silver Grove.I haven't seen Ray in a couple of years but last I knew he was still around.
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Sorry to have to tell you this, but the state launch is actually in a state park. it is not legal to operate a quad or snowmobile on park grounds to access the ice.
This is true. In the past the State has placed road block saw horses at the State launch access with signs saying no snowmobiles and ATV's allowed, but they launch there anyhow and risk a fine every time they do,sign or no sign.
As for springs - there a some on the West side out in front of the Boys Camp red cottages just down from the Silver Lake Marina and on the East side near the area called the Pines which is across the lake from Traber Rd. I wwould stay at center of lake in these areas. I remember during the last "Fish Trap" ice fishing tournament the officials went out on questionable ice to mark the lake ice and they broke through with two quads.
Springs are not the only dangers on this lake ice. There is the inlet and outlets on the North end you must stay clear of. There is a major creek that enters the lake on the South side of the Silver Lake Golf Course clubhouse. There is a creek that enters the lake at Buffalo Point and one just South of the State launch.
Stay safe and learn this lake.
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Thanks for the info guys I have fished it at diff times over the years always on foot thanks?
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Silver Lake use to always remain a front page topic but I found it on page 12 this time, what has happened to this nice small lake or aren't there any guys reporting? I see the South end on the cam and there are some fishermen out there but I would like to know about the deep water, snow on ice and fishing reports if any. Thanks
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Silver Lake use to always remain a front page topic but I found it on page 12 this time, what has happened to this nice small lake or aren't there any guys reporting? I see the South end on the cam and there are some fishermen out there but I would like to know about the deep water, snow on ice and fishing reports if any. Thanks
I'm surprised there are any reports from any where this year. I'm a perch fisherman and this has been the worst year I have ever seen. All of the traditional hotspots have been horrible; Sodus, Irondiquoit , Braddocks, Cranberry and Long Ponds, all have been bad. It is weird to see so many different bodies of water be so bad for a whole season. The only exception has been Chautauqua over the last few weeks. I hope soft water brings better results.
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I fished the northend out of Standpipe today. 1 - 3" perch. 5 tipdowns, 2 bobber rods and jigging rod. Left after 1 1/2 hrs and went to Keuka.
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they over fished it the last few years and put too much pressure on the lake
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I fished the northend out of Standpipe today. 1 - 3" perch. 5 tipdowns, 2 bobber rods and jigging rod. Left after 1 1/2 hrs and went to Keuka.
That was a long ride. How did you do on Keuka?
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That was a long ride. How did you do on Keuka?
He came over to fish with me for the lakers ,we caught 11, but we kept 8 between us. Then we went to Canandaigua for perch, so yea he put some miles on. Stopped At Monica's Pies for a few treats too.
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Jim will drive as long as it takes and shift gears in an instant for a hot bite....add pies or pizza.. he,s in. Did the 100 yd dash in 6.5 on chatauqua when game hog had the record musky on
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Jim will drive as long as it takes and shift gears in an instant for a hot bite....add pies or pizza.. he,s in. Did the 100 yd dash in 6.5 on chatauqua when game hog had the record musky on
That was 200 yds ! And running in knee deep snow like that wiped me out .. don't get old ! Wait until you see this pie place .. Unreal !!
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Lol I want to go fishing with you guys. Sounds like a blast
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Lol I want to go fishing with you guys. Sounds like a blast
Final tryout's for the team are next weekend. We put a tipdown 40 yds away from you and from the time of the strike, you're timed to see how fast you can get there, hook the fish, rebait the line and get it back down the hole. It's sort of like a Nascar pitstop. Strategy and proper placement of equipment all come into play. If Paulie likes what he see's, you're in .. If not, you still have a chance in phase 2 which is gaffing a big pike at the hole .. if you blow it and the fish gets away, you're out and it's back to fishing the Small Boat Harbor !! Good luck .. !
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What time are tryouts? Do I get a few seconds off for making the "eagle"
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I've been practicing sprints all morning
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anyone been out lately? How is the ice? Any update would be greatly appreciated. thinking about going out some night this week!!. Any crappies????????????????????????????
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I can agree with prchmike worst year for me ice fishing. Even got skunked on Chautauqua 2x. Hit my pond this sunday, and fish seemed repeled by jig with bait. Really weird, never saw that before. Not even a bite.
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Anyone fish north end lately? Thinking about looking for crappies this evening. Looking g for shoreline Ice report.
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Just remember North end leaves first with the main creek inlet and outlet right there. Shore ice may be good and even the outer ice maybe good but where the current under minds the ice from the inlet /outlet you have to be aware. This can happen quite a ways out into the lake.
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Thanks for the reply Chaser. We're done for the season. Time to get the boats ready. Don't like playing on "iffy" ice.
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they over fished it the last few years and put too much pressure on the lake
Wrong. The fish are there, just not where we want them to be. Low, clear water conditions this past late summer/early fall pushed a lot of the fish deeper than usual, combined with a HUGE amount of small perch for forage in the main basin and a never ending ending supply of bloodworms in the mucky bottom that makes up 99% of that main basin, they never had a reason to come back up to more fishable water. It didn't help that the wind this fall when the water was still open beat the snot out of the weed cover on the flats, turning the water murky, which stayed murky until ice up. Then tons of snow got dumped on the lake cutting off any light needed for healthy weeds and you have a dead zone from 0'-12' of water this year. Roaming, well fed fish are difficult to find and catch, and the fact you have to beat the thousands of aggresive dink perch away makes for tough fishing. I was catching 100s of bluegills a day in mid november when I could find them out in the abyss. They are still there.
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Bassman, Let them believe it's fished out. More for us ;D.
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I have looked back at some of my Silver Lake posts from 2007 when I joined Ice Shanty. I was catching a lot of 5"-7" perch back then and a doz to doz and a half of 8"-11" to take home, very few perch below 5". This year I caught a lot of perch under 5" and only a 1/2 doz to 10 perch 8"-10" to take home.
The question isn't whether this lake is fished out but why the perch aren't growing. A well fed perch in a balance ecological system grows to 8" in 4 years. Why haven't those 5"-7" perch from 2007 grown into good size fish by now? And it's not because there fished out, look at a camera sometime. I believe it is over population. I think more fish should be taken from this lake. Chautauqua Lake has the same problem, you can catch 150 to 200 perch in a 10 hr. day and only keep 30-40 perch 8"-10". Anyone know a good DEC fish biologists, maybe he could give us the answer? By the way, I have perch fished WNY since 1965 and been very successful over the years.
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I have looked back at some of my Silver Lake posts from 2007 when I joined Ice Shanty. I was catching a lot of 5"-7" perch back then and a doz to doz and a half of 8"-11" to take home, very few perch below 5". This year I caught a lot of perch under 5" and only a 1/2 doz to 10 perch 8"-10" to take home.
The question isn't whether this lake is fished out but why the perch aren't growing. A well fed perch in a balance ecological system grows to 8" in 4 years. Why haven't those 5"-7" perch from 2007 grown into good size fish by now? And it's not because there fished out, look at a camera sometime. I believe it is over population. I think more fish should be taken from this lake. Chautauqua Lake has the same problem, you can catch 150 to 200 perch in a 10 hr. day and only keep 30-40 perch 8"-10". Anyone know a good DEC fish biologists, maybe he could give us the answer? By the way, I have perch fished WNY since 1965 and been very successful over the years.
Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner!! :clap: :clap: :clap: how many times have people said that we need to take more fish out of there, only to be attacked that it is fished out?!!
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Maybe a walleye (although I hear there are many) or tiger musky stocking. It is true about the dink perch, very very few of them grow to the desired size.
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Silver lake has ALWAYS had a dink perch problem, even when the walleye stocking was going on. Except for a few times when a year class or two bucks that trend, but it's random, and you never know when/what year class is going to be the one to break out of the dink pattern. Gills/sunnies are bigger on Silver than Conesus, but they too run in cycles.........several years of lots of dinks, then the get bigger, then they get smaller, etc...... Silver is a giant pond, not a sprawling impoundment, you have to take the bad with the good, but it's fertile, well populated, and the game fish (Pike, Largemouth/Smallmouth) are healthy and abundant, all be it well fed and not the easiest to catch.
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Warsawbassman for farm pond president! If some of these guys would listen to people like you who obviously fish this pond year round, they might actually learn something about this fishery! Your last few posts have been right on! But it's much easier for guys to blame their lack of success on a fished out, over pressured, nothing but dinks lake. Maybe if these guys would come fish the other 8 months of the year they could learn something about this lake. Instead they show up around new years day out of maxes and fish till about April 1st in the same spots all winter and if the fish aren't there, the lake is fished out :roflmao: :roflmao: I can't even tell you how many times you can take the boat out even on a weekend and only have a handful, if that, of trailers in the parking lot! But that's OK, don't waste your time on this dead sea!!
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Maybe a walleye (although I hear there are many) or tiger musky stocking. It is true about the dink perch, very very few of them grow to the desired size.
According to the last several dec shockings there is an over abundance of walleye and the pike population is ridiculous! Definitely no lack of preditors in the lake...Imo that could be why the eyes are so big in this small lake and pike reach 40+"...plus they get some toad bass they are all well fed
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Wrong. The fish are there, just not where we want them to be. Low, clear water conditions this past late summer/early fall pushed a lot of the fish deeper than usual, combined with a HUGE amount of small perch for forage in the main basin and a never ending ending supply of bloodworms in the mucky bottom that makes up 99% of that main basin, they never had a reason to come back up to more fishable water. It didn't help that the wind this fall when the water was still open beat the snot out of the weed cover on the flats, turning the water murky, which stayed murky until ice up. Then tons of snow got dumped on the lake cutting off any light needed for healthy weeds and you have a dead zone from 0'-12' of water this year. Roaming, well fed fish are difficult to find and catch, and the fact you have to beat the thousands of aggresive dink perch away makes for tough fishing. I was catching 100s of bluegills a day in mid november when I could find them out in the abyss. They are still there.
This from the guy who most likely spends more time on Silver Lake than anyone else on the planet. Good to hear from you, Brad. Hope all well. Miss you on the Other Side.
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According to the last several dec shockings there is an over abundance of walleye and the pike population is ridiculous! Definitely no lack of preditors in the lake...Imo that could be why the eyes are so big in this small lake and pike reach 40+"...plus they get some toad bass they are all well fed
That's what I hear about the walleye too. What size range have you seen out of there? I'm not one from "the lake is fished out" crowd but I hear these stories about years ago it used to be a great place for big perch. I'm just wondering what has changed. Obviously there are huge numbers of perch but they just don't get any bigger. Open to all theories!
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Anywhere from 6-23" with an occasional toad if u hit it just right.