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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Ice Shack Tips => Topic started by: shawno on Jan 19, 2007, 08:51 PM
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Hello,
I am considering buying a new portable ice shack, but it is difficult to know what would be the right choice for me. There are so many brands and they all claim to be the best. I am partial to the Clam 5600. It looks like it is well-built and will hold up over a period of time. Whereas, some of these "tent" like shacks look pretty flimsy. I will normally be fishing with one other person, so it doesn't have to be huge; a 2-3 man should do nicely.
For those of you who have a Clam 5600, when the door is closed, is it dark enough inside to see bottom? Is it warm? Would you recommend it?
Anyone else care to comment on the features of their portable shacks?
Thanks in advance for the comments,
shawno 8)
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Otter Pro Series...Plus, they are on sale at Reeds right now.
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Any tent by Clam Corp. Built to last unlike the other brands.
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At the end of the season my HT is going back if that tells you anything...
I'm going to replace it with either a Frabill Magnum or Prowler.
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I have the clam 5600. It is well built and will last you many years. The only thing is it is a bit on the heavy side. You will be able to see in the water with the door shut and is very warm. I got mine at dicks sporting goods at the end of the season for 260.00( clearence and floor model discount)Hope this helps.
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I have owned several portable shelters over the years. They have all had their benifits and downsides. It depends on whether you will be draging it by hand and how far, or if you will use an atv or snowmobile to tow it out. Some are better with the wind than others. Some are better on really cold days. If you like an enclosed, hard bottom type, they are much more roomy and warmer, but they are not too good in the wind, they are hard to drag by hand when there is snow on the ice, and your gear keeps falling off while you are dragging it.
The Flip over type have a nice sled which is easy to drag, has plenty of room for all your gear, and is much easier to move from spot to spot when you are trying to find the fish, however, there is no floor, so your feet could get cold and if you like a lot of room you may feel cramped.
The clam 5600 is an excellent choice for it's type, and I like the fishtrap guide for the flip over type.
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Fish trap Guide hands down the best two man flip type. If you need a little more size and you will be pulling it with a sled or whatever then I would go with a Yukon. Clam also makes these shanties in a extreme model. They are made with thicker tarps and larger diameter poles. I do not know why as the Guide and Yukon are plenty strong. I guess if you are in an area with constant wind and weight or money is not an issue then the extreme may make sense. Anyway Clam makes a very good product and if someone made a better mousetrap (or fish trap) I would certainly buy that.
Good Luck
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No doubt the Fish Trap Guide !
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I have a clam 5600 and it is great nice and roomy and on ice with little snow or packed snow its fine if you move around. However if there is a lot of snow on the ice it is a pain to move around unless you tear it down and set it back up, its quite the plow. I also have a homemade hut that is pretty heavy so its good on windy days since it doesnt blow around very easily due to the wieght. I was going to buy a clam scout this year for when I go alone and plan on moving around a lot, but since its taking so long to freeze here in western NY I will wait till next year. I cant justify spending a couple hundred dollars to use it just a couple times this year. I do really like the 5600 though it is worth the money and easy to set up. I made a ski sled to pull it around on though besause even when its all folded up it drags a lot of snow.
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The Clam 5600 is a great shack as long as you are fishing with only one other person. If you ever plan on fishing with more than that I would upgrad and get the 6800. It is quite a bit more money but it is worth it for the extra space.
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I would definitely go with the flip-over style shanty.As mentioned in some other posts they are much...much...easier to drag.So if you decide to fish on your own it's still no problem.Also it's nice to place all your gear into the sled which prevents it from falling out.Very mobile and super easy to set up too.Helps out when your hands are freezing cold and you can't feel your fingers.Fish Trap,Frabill,and Otter are your most common brands.I'm partial to the Fish Trap because it has many nice features included in the price.Otter makes a nice shanty,however,you must purchase the seats separately.Something to keep in mind when making your choice. ;)
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clam all the way. 5600 has been awesome, upgraded from clam Jr. wouldn't buy any other brand.
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Anyone own the Cabela portable selling for around $120 that you supply the plywood for the floor? Is it worth buying? Saw five reviews on their site and those buyers seemed happy, but I place more faith in what it said on IceShanty.
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the trap scout is great for one person,light weight and built to last! have no problems with mine.
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Well it looks like you got your answer, take it from a guy who has owened a Shappell, a frabil and a clam....Clam quality is haard to beat...they are pricey, but well worth the bucks.
Get in one, before you buy, look around and imagine the gear you carry and make sure they will fit, make sure you can transport your hut easily, then Purchase a clam
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the trap scout is great for one person,light weight and built to last! have no problems with mine.
All my buds have a scout and the one buddy also has a guide... When we bring a guest, we take the guide also. I myself would'nt spend my money any other way.
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i have a clam 6800. cant beat the fabric. but its heavy but roomy and the easiest to set up. why fish all cramped up. its worth the extra effort to pull it out trust me.
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as I mentioned previously I have a Guide. I had a Fish Trap II before that. I was just wondering why you guys who swear by the Clam style prefer them over a flip type?
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Thanks again everyone for the great advice!!
Like icejunky said, I think I got my answer...
I will have to check out the fishtrap again and see what it looks like again in person. Do you guys think that it is dark enough inside a fishtrap to sightfish? It is fun to see what is going on down there when fishing in shallow water!!
Do you find that it gets cold in a fishtrap without a hard bottom?
Thanks again,
shawno 8)
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Plenty dark enough to site fish with no problem.I have had no issues with cold feet and actually like no bottom because there is no messy floor when you pack it up(all blood ,used bait, spilled coffee/beverage,fish formula's... stay on the ice)Also can leave the fish on ice if you prefer.
I have the Fish Trap Guide,Fish Trap Pro,and the Clam 6800.All are quality ice shelters!But I would take the flip-over style shanty anyday over my Clam. I use my Clam for Erie trips in the airboat.Used as a basecamp to cook and hang out.It would take 2-3 guys to drag it out on the lake(unless using a snowmobile)because it is heavy and plows through the snow. And once you set it up you don't want to keep taking it down.One flip up and I'm on my way with the Guide or Pro and it glides across the snow.
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Thanks again everyone for the great advice!!
Like icejunky said, I think I got my answer...
I will have to check out the fishtrap again and see what it looks like again in person. Do you guys think that it is dark enough inside a fishtrap to sightfish? It is fun to see what is going on down there when fishing in shallow water!!
Do you find that it gets cold in a fishtrap without a hard bottom?
Thanks again,
shawno 8)
Plenty dark enough. I havent had any issues with cold feet ,but I have had issues with the ice melting in front of the heater and causeing a puddle. I cured that by placeing a small 14 x18 inch piece of 1/4 inch plywood in front of the heater.I have the Yukon and scout by the way.
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i got my clam many years ago. i don't even think it had a number, like the 5600. so it's old but i have never had a problem more than a few of the plastic ends on the poles. no holes in it no tears and only one cracked window, my fault. i once ordered one of cabalas you put the floor in. sent it back the same day. i say go clam
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I own a fish trap guide,a fish trap scout,and the original fish trap.I haven't had any problems with any of those huts.I bought the guide so my daughter can go with me,or one of my buddys want to fish in the guide instead of our single huts.Any of the fish trap products are the most rugged and durable made.Go to gander mnt and check them out,you will see.........
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I have the Yukon and only have to run the heater on low. When I was fishing out of another we went thru alot more propane that with this. It is also plenty dark enough to sight fish. I am sold on it.
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Well, I guess I'll be the first to mention the Shappell 3000DX. I absolutely love it and have used for the past four years. I usually fish by myself or with one or two other guys. This was the criteria I used when I bought mine:
1. Had to fit in the backseat of my car (4 door sedan).
2. Needed to be able transport and set up by myself. (3000DX goes up & down fast and easy)
3. Had to allow me to bring all my equipment as well. (Hand Auger, traps, bait, all fit easily on top)
4. Needed to have great visibility. (3000DX has two full length windows on each side)
5. Needed to keep me warm and utilize the sun. (Black canvas and carpeted floor really help).
6. Durability. (Used it four years and still as good as new)
7. Price. (Paid somewhere around 270$, can't remember exactly)
Only issue is deep snow makes it difficult to pull. Just get a cheap sled to throw under it for deep snow.
You also need to have a good anchor system but I think it is worth it to have a little more breathing room.
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I love my 5600. I am not a fan of flip over types, I like a floor under my feet.
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Another thing to consider is how much your going to use it. If your only going to get out 10 times a year,any of them are probably just fine. If your going to USE it then I would definetly say CLAM all the way. My yukon has close to 250 trips on it and other than some self inflicted damage( it opened up at 65mph in the back of the truck.),its holding up AWSOME.
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Well it looks like you got your answer, take it from a guy who has owned a Shappell, a frabil and a clam....Clam quality is hard to beat...they are pricey, but well worth the bucks.
Get in one, before you buy, look around and imagine the gear you carry and make sure they will fit, make sure you can transport your hut easily, then Purchase a clam
Weight is the real problem for me in Colorado. You cannot use any motorized vehicle on the ice; so it comes down to lugging it by hand and snow cover at times makes it very difficult to even pull a sled with fishing gear very far. The temp is usually not too much of a factor. It's mainly shelter to get out of the wind. Be nice to do some jigging without the hole and line freezing.
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For those of you with the clam, what do you do with all your gear? Do you haul all your gear on another sled?
Also how is it for one angler fishing two poles? Seems a bit ackward with the hole openings located at seperate corners for one person to keep on eye on both of them.
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For those of you with the clam, what do you do with all your gear? Do you haul all your gear on another sled?
Also how is it for one angler fishing two poles? Seems a bit ackward with the hole openings located at seperate corners for one person to keep on eye on both of them.
Clam makes the flip overs;yukon,guide,pro,scout, as well as the "suite case" shacks.
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Clam makes the flip overs;yukon,guide,pro,scout, as well as the "suite case" shacks.
I was referring to specifically the "suitcase" style ones, ie clam series of cabin shelters (clam 5600)...not fish trap series.
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In my 5600, my dad and I sit right in the middle, and have the holes directly in front of us. As far as carrying our stuff, we have a sled that has all of our stuff in it, and everything, including the auger goes right on top of the Clam. Sliding it across ice is a breeze-snow is another story. :-\
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i have the frabill speedshak xl. it has 4 holes one in each corner. about 12"x24". seems to be holding up pretty good. others have the same problems i have. snow, weight, wind. i still like it. but probably don't pull it a couple hundred yds. in more than 3 inches of snow. watch how you pull it. keep the wgt. to the bottoms of the buckets and stuff will stay on pretty good. not if you pull it with the 4 wheeler. then i put the stuff on the wheeler to keep the snow off from it.
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Well, I guess I'll be the first to mention the Shappell 3000DX. I absolutely love it and have used for the past four years. I usually fish by myself or with one or two other guys. This was the criteria I used when I bought mine:
1. Had to fit in the backseat of my car (4 door sedan).
2. Needed to be able transport and set up by myself. (3000DX goes up & down fast and easy)
3. Had to allow me to bring all my equipment as well. (Hand Auger, traps, bait, all fit easily on top)
4. Needed to have great visibility. (3000DX has two full length windows on each side)
5. Needed to keep me warm and utilize the sun. (Black canvas and carpeted floor really help).
6. Durability. (Used it four years and still as good as new)
7. Price. (Paid somewhere around 270$, can't remember exactly)
Only issue is deep snow makes it difficult to pull. Just get a cheap sled to throw under it for deep snow.
You also need to have a good anchor system but I think it is worth it to have a little more breathing room.
I just bought one a few weeks ago. Just waiting for some ice now.
As for the deep snow, I built a light weight ski system that also carries
the rest of my equipment and set the hut on top of it.
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I would like to buy a new portable one day too but here in Alaska we need something that will hold up to the extreme cold and the deep snow. I would like one that will not take a snowmachine or 4 wheeler to tow all the time but easy enough for one person to get in and out of the back of a pick-up and easy set up as well as hold in the heat when a person is using an 8000 to 18,000 BTU portable heater. Must be able to fit two larger guys around 250lbs each who are over 6ft tall with all their gear, room for the dog and heater and still feel roomy. Last but not least must be reasonably priced to include shipping to Alaska
I see a lot of shanties with cracked windows at -20 or colder when people set them up and most manufacturers sew theirs in. I do like the Eskimo portables because of the velcro windows but do not like the low tubs or the bench seats. I like the Otters, especially the Magnum Lodge with the large high tub and swivel seats but I do not like their sewn in windows which I have seen blow out in cold weather. I have not been around many Clam Corp or Frabill products cause nobody really carries them up here and if I wanted to get one you would be hard pressed to find some one to ship one up here without costing you an arm and a leg.
I had an HT Polar pop up and it went back to wally world after the windows blew out when I was setting it up, probably would have been okay if I would have taken it inside every night. Thats how I usually test my products; I leave them in the back of my truck or in the cab at below zero temps and then use them the next day or a few days later to see how they handle being exposed to the cold. Some major auto manufacturers and other prominent companies as well as the U.S Army tests newer products all the time up here to see what works and what doesn't. If it works well here in the extreme cold and doesn't break or have a lot of issues then it will usually function anywhere else on earth.
Now if anyone out there has connections with any company pertaining to hunting or fishing who would like to test their gear or products in an extreme cold environment at -30 to see if they really are top of the line let me know. As for the rest of the shanty manufacturers fix the problems like the small tubs and the sewn in windows and you may see some more sales. You might want to also consider selling them in different colors like red or blue or college and NFL team logos as an option to special order.
Brad
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when buying a cabin style shelter vs a flip over style shelter be weary of a few things......
1) they take longer to assemble (on ice)
2) they dont have a sled style bottom and do not pull as easy on the ice
4) because they are taller, they do not hold up any where near as good in the wind
Take it from a guy who owns a Shappell 3000dx, and a Clam Guide, the guide is a much better product and I wish I would have saved my money instead of purchasing the Shappell...ask me two seasons ago if I liked the Shappell I would have said "yes" and gave you 100 reasons why, but 2 years later the product has show it's flaws and Im was hut shopping again. Now the shappell is my back up hut in case I have a group of buddies i can convince to come out with me
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I've been using a 5600 extensively and like it alot. One item mentioned regularly is that it doesn't handle wind too well. I would, from personal experience, disagree with this. I've been out in 30 MPH winds, higher gusts, in the 5600 and it was rock solid. Of course it was well anchored. High winds have been more of a problem for me than the 5600.
Just this weekend we were out with around 5 inches of new snow piled on top of the shanty, the wind was blowing and drifting snow, and the 5600 was warm and toasty inside with the buddy heater going. Outside the shanty it was basically a survival-type situation with visibility near zero at times. In fact, we had a hard time finding our tipups around the shanty. The 5600 handled the snow load and wind with no problem.
I do intend to build a sled to haul it and gear out in snow. Dragging it through snow is a pain. Although, there are threads on here about how to haul the sled-type shantys in snow as well. As for now, I simply tie a small sled behind the 5600 when dragging it. The auger, chairs and vex are bungy corded to the top of the 5600.
Tight lines.
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I have a question regarding the Clam flip-over type shelters.
How do you keep from losing the heat inside when you need to go get a flag? I am assuming that you need to flip it most all of the way open to get out (correct me if I am wrong). I like the zipper doors on my Shappell 3000DX because I can leave it unzipped half-way and still get in and out without losing too much heat if any at all. I like the idea of the CLAM style units but I am usually getting in and out pretty frequently.
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All of the clam flipovers have zippered doors, with the exception being the Scout.
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That is the big perk for a clam over my one man Frabil flip...the clam has the D door that you unzip so you are able to pack snow on the skirt and lock in the heat, my frabil has no door and need to be flipped up, so I ant pack snow on the skirt and on windy days the skirt blows in along with the cold
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The new Fish Traps also have the partially zippered back door for the "Trap Link" that lets you connect two Fish Traps together. Although I have not used this feature yet the zippered back door is nice to hand things back and forth to your buddies without leaving your seat. ::)
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My wife bought me the Clam Voyager. AWESOME. EXPENSIVE. Thank you Santa. The sled is huge the flip ovet top is huge. BUT everything I care to take fishin fits in the sled. Some of it goes in when i get there. Most of it is Permanent. 20 traps, 20 or so jiggin poles in cases, tackle boxes, pole holders, heaters, coat and bibs, scoops, some other things i cannot name right now. Rope is permanent, gets pulled out and set on top when the cover comes off. Room for bait buckets, newly filled propane bottles, and auger goes on top. Away I go. Yeah its heavy pulling in snow bot one heater warms it up at 0 degrees and the small plastic snow shovel i forgot to mention is good to weigh down the flaps air tight and the carpet sample I also forgot to mention is the legth of the sled 15" wide and keeps the feet off the ice. Also a place to fit the vex in there too. I swear There is more gear can be fit in the sled than you can use in a day, Glad Im youg and buff enough to pull it, Quality is bar none fromall that ive seen. comes with two padded swivel seats and a third can be fit in. Taj Majel.
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Sounds like a sweet unit...but as you said, $$$
Oh what to buy ???
Thanks again everyone for the input...much appreciated!!
shawno 8)
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That is the big perk for a clam over my one man Frabil flip...the clam has the D door that you unzip so you are able to pack snow on the skirt and lock in the heat, my frabil has no door and need to be flipped up, so I ant pack snow on the skirt and on windy days the skirt blows in along with the cold
My frabill has the D door with the snow flaps but it is a 3 man and it DOES suck to pull it on the snow any distance...I will definitely atest to that.
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I have the Clam 6800 and absolutely love it! I put it on top of a Chevy Trailblazer on a Yakima rack with gunnel's brackets I use for my canoe. I then use 2 nylon tie downs that I also use to strap the canoe down in summer. I can drive 80mph safely with my ice house folded up on the roof. This lets me have room for 4 fisherman, augers, buckets, coolers, ice rods. All safety inside the trailblazer. I always get looks from other fisherman, like why don't other people transport their suitcase style houses like that. Remember, if you got ice, its easiest to just drive out to where your fishing. Don't have to worry about dragging anything. I need to post a pic of my truck.
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Anyone own the Cabela portable selling for around $120 that you supply the plywood for the floor? Is it worth buying? Saw five reviews on their site and those buyers seemed happy, but I place more faith in what it said on IceShanty.
I had one of the cabelas build you own ones, and can't stand it. I ended up giving it away, and my buddy who took it wants to give it back. Tts heavy, flimsy, and ends up taking $50-75 more in lumber and a whole day to put together. I tried to put skiis on it, and it sort of worked, that is until there was more than 3 inches of snow.
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I have an Eskimo Quik flip 3 , I like it but they quit selling them in Canada for now . Something about the tarp or canvass is to flammable. Anybody heard anything about that.
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another vote for the clam trap style huts! i run with a guide and it's great. i'd love a hut i can stand up in but i'm pulling the thing while walking so the yukon or bigger isn't for me. i love it when i shut all windows etc and check the bottom out when i'm fishing in shallow enough water. the d door gets a good workout as I do shovel snow onto the skirt to keep the draft minimized. really easy to set up in windy conditions! that sealed the deal for me. the wife picked up a hut style for me and I couldn't even set it up in the basement!! couldn't imagine trying to set it up on a windy day on simcoe.
just make sure you get a good heater.
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Ive had a clam 5600 for 12 yrs and it is great and still in excellent condition. I got a 6800 last season cause it was a deal @ around $350. The base is too flimsy.the plastic is not as good as the 5600. I bought the special tie downs they have and that helps a great deal. The base is too wide at the corners for the canvas (too tight) and it is already wearing through from wind. I have contacted the company about my complaints and they just let me know what their warranty is. ( Basically useless) Too bad cause I think the rest of there stuff is top shelf. If I was guaranteed early ice extreme cold where I could go out w/ the 4 wheeler everytime i would get rid of it all for their monster shack 8800? I saw it at KTP in maine heavy duty! I love the size I even bought some extra poles and have a shelf at the back end to hold camera and stuff giving more floor space.
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Clam, Fishtrap Guide. love mine
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I did a lot of research a couple of years ago and purchased an Otter Magnum Lodge. I fitted it with a bench seat and two can fish in it very comfortably. However, it is a bit pricey and heavy to boot. Pulling it by hand on bare ice is no problem, but if you get six inches or more of snow it can give you quite a workout unless you're using a quad or snowmobile. I fish by myself alot and this can create quite a bit of work, more than I really care for. But I liked the quality and durability of the Otter Products so much that I purchased a second shanty this year, one that is smaller (Otter Cottage) for use when I'm by myself.
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for the money I vote for the Eskimo Quickfish 3 - fast setup and truly portable. $159 at Sportsmans Warehouse. It says it is for 3, but 4 can easily fish in it.
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Haven't heard too many mention Frabill...are they lower end compared to clam and otter?
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Live in Ohio and all Fish Traps on sale at Gander Mtn. Trap Guide $299(2 person) and Trap Pro$229(1 person).Anybody looking for a flip over style shanty here's your chance at a good price.If you open up a Gander Mtn credit card you will get another 10% off that price. :)
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wife outta the blue the other day bought me a frabrill caboose! gonna test it out tommorrow let ya know how it works out temps 10 windchill to -35 tommorrow reported
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I got a clam scout.to small.Freind has a 5600,nice but hard to haul stuff and not very moveable when set up.Selling both of them,went and bought a Shappel 2.0 Deluxe on sale at Cabelas. Lots of space and portable.Was looking at a clam guide till I saw how much more space the Shappel has.I assembled it and can honestly say it is well built.
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I love the room my frabill prowler has. Plenty of head room, great seats...no complaints.
Big W
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i use a big cardboard box... prefer refrigerator boxes :D
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i use a big cardboard box... prefer refrigerator boxes :D
A fishing buddy was telling me how, as kids, he and his brother used to take the large square trash cans from trash day out to the lake and would lay in the can with a jig pole.
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Clam fishtrap scout here. Quick, easy and light
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for the money I vote for the Eskimo Quickfish 3 - fast setup and truly portable. $159 at Sportsmans Warehouse. It says it is for 3, but 4 can easily fish in it.
As you can see here, these Cubes have really taken off. This shot is on Cooks Bay which is on Lake Simcoe Ontario:
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I'm still waiting for my Eskimo Quick Fish 3 to arrive ::)
The QF3 is the same as the the Cube. Inside dimensions are 70" wide by 70" long (Cube is 71 x 71) by 80" high. From hub to hub it's 90" by 90" due to the pop out wall design. It weighs 23 lb's and comes in it's own carrying bag which has padded shoulder straps if ya wanna carry it as a backpack. It easily fits in any vehicle.
It doesn't have a floor, but you can punch your holes where ever you want. That's a fair amount of space in a compact package.
It handles and sets up easily in high winds very nicely. It comes with ice anchors.
I was at Binbrook today and watched a guy set up his Cube in pretty high winds. I didn't last long without a shelter, put it that way.
Good luck with whatever you get.
Rick
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I just put my new clam 5600 together it was a peace of cake plenty of room lots of doors and window definitely heavy duty i got it off ebay for 269.00 but shipping was 90 ill be using it sat!!! i cant wait
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I have the same Eskimo 111 I strap it to my back pull my sled with a box screwed on top and auger tied on . Needless to say after 200 yards I have to stop and rest but it gets the job done.JMO :)
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the clam pro....it floats on water when I decide to be jesus and walk on water. Honestly though....it is kinda big for a one man shanty..but I have alot of gear in there with me....so it is just right....I like being able to hall all my stuff in it two when I go out. It is very comfortable....I feel like I am siting in a lazy boy...and with one lantern it is 70 degrees farenheit no problem. It is light......and it compacts down so small I have fit it in a dodge neon before. That's my two sense ;D
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Haven't heard too many mention Frabill...are they lower end compared to clam and otter?
I purchased the Frabill Trekker. I love the removeable seats and room it provides but am extremely disappointed in the tent fabric. It claims to be "artic armor" but when compared to another Frabill shanty with "artic armor" (magnum) the material was much heavier and more durable. Two different "artic armor" materials? I would not recommend this Frabill Trekker shanty until a heavier material is used for their tents.
Fish Traps are a GREAT shanty! I have two of them now.
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My first was a homemade popup with a painters cloth and 2 pieces of plywood.This was great for many years and it was cheap to make.I have 3 portables now and the best one i have is the otter.I have 2 frabills,1 solo ranger and the 2 man with the full bench seat.The new frabills are no where as tough as the old ones.My buddy just bought the new frabill with the glidetrac system and it is allready ruined from dragging it on the ice.The bases of the new shacks are very thin and they will collapse,dent,where thru in only 4 trips.He called frabill and they said that it was his fault.I have hauled my old frabills all over and have yet to have any problems.I do like the new icecube style and the big clam 2 man.Johnnypike a buddy got a great deal on a replacement top for his and it is green with the green bay packers logo.
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Any of the flip-overs are good.
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I just bought the fishtrap voyager cause I have a friend that goes and he has the same thing so we can put the trap link in paid about 600 for it but im very happy with it takes about 5-10 min to set up and get banked in can take everything in the sled (possibly even the kitchen sink) can hold 3 guys and a buddy heater keeps it nice and toasty.
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Fish trap pro.
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Ah I looked around and the Shappell DX3000 seemed like the best deal for me. Everyone in the fishing department of the family sporting store says they alll use them. But Im super partial to the floor. I fished last year in a friends frabil artic armor clam and hated it, Cramped not enough room for gear..Only thing with the 3000 is...is that I did buy a jet sled for it and just have all my gear under the shanty and bungied it down to the sled... I paid 190 for my dx 3000.