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Alligator Gar
« on: Apr 10, 2007, 01:35 AM »
A friend of mine sent these in an email so I had to put them here. Don't know who these guys
are, but they where on Broken Bow Lake in Oklahoma. Judging by the first pic, they were bow fishing
when this one was taken. Congrats guys, whoever you are.





Judging by the slime dripping off the tail, I would say these pics are real.
Wow! I didn't know an Alligator Gar could get so big!
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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #1 on: Apr 10, 2007, 06:39 AM »
Who says you don't need a pair of 10" holes side by side! ;D

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #2 on: Apr 10, 2007, 07:34 AM »
HAHA  I would have cut my line and ran screaming like a little girl ifi caught that. wait nevermind i do that when i catch a perch too ::) ::)

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #3 on: Apr 10, 2007, 07:35 AM »
Thats awesome ! Thanks for sharing the pics !

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #4 on: Apr 10, 2007, 11:42 AM »
that would be a sweet wall mount
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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #5 on: Apr 10, 2007, 11:50 AM »
that would be a sweet wall mount
Uh, did you mean sweet and EXPENSIVE wall Mount?

I would do it anyways!

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #6 on: Apr 10, 2007, 11:55 AM »
Holy crap, that thing's friggin awesome!  wish we had some here in MN

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #7 on: Apr 10, 2007, 11:59 AM »
Holy crap, that thing's friggin awesome!  wish we had some here in MN
Not so sure about that. Would there be any Walleye, Pike pannies, turtles, human swimmers, ducks, geese or other living organism left if these inhabited Minnessota waters? ;D

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #8 on: Apr 10, 2007, 01:12 PM »
Uh, did you mean sweet and EXPENSIVE wall Mount?

I would do it anyways!
More like a roof orniment ! :D

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #9 on: Apr 10, 2007, 02:25 PM »
Uh, did you mean sweet and EXPENSIVE wall Mount?

I would do it anyways!


what would you have to do drop a couple grand? thats chump change.

Or you could do it yourself :)
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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #10 on: Apr 10, 2007, 03:19 PM »
I think I would go as far as a second mortage to get this one mounted. We have alligator gar here in NW Ohio,
but the biggest I've seen is about 4 feet.
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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #11 on: Apr 10, 2007, 03:42 PM »

what would you have to do drop a couple grand? thats chump change.

Or you could do it yourself :)
To do this mount by yourself, you would need time and space. My wife assisted with the "stuffing" (ah, thought you would get me with a mount joke eh?) of a gator that was in the area of 18' if I recall correctly. It is in the Columbus Georgia Museum. They used an engine hoist just to lift the head, as it weighed over 200 pounds. They dried the hide ontop of the roof cause it was so big. I see similar requirements here if it were done at home. Big vats for chemicals etc...

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #12 on: Apr 10, 2007, 05:05 PM »
 :o those things are scary looking!! wow!!

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #13 on: Apr 10, 2007, 09:13 PM »
To do this mount by yourself, you would need time and space. My wife assisted with the "stuffing" (ah, thought you would get me with a mount joke eh?) of a gator that was in the area of 18' if I recall correctly. It is in the Columbus Georgia Museum. They used an engine hoist just to lift the head, as it weighed over 200 pounds. They dried the hide ontop of the roof cause it was so big. I see similar requirements here if it were done at home. Big vats for chemicals etc...

Pay the chump change!


lol no I would only try to get you with a mount joke in the mirc shanty. I try to keep it clean outside of there ;D
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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #14 on: Apr 10, 2007, 10:06 PM »
 :o :o :o


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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #15 on: Apr 11, 2007, 10:02 PM »
I noticed they had a video camera with 'em.  Anybody know if that might be posted somewhere?  I'd definitely be interested in seeing that!

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #16 on: Apr 13, 2007, 03:50 PM »
Impressive, zebco 202 reel on the bow reeling in a 300 lb fish.

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #17 on: Apr 13, 2007, 06:38 PM »
I saw an In-Fisherman last winter that they were fishing those monsters on the Trinity River in central Texas. They are underfished and overlooked according to Doug Stange. :o

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #18 on: Apr 15, 2007, 10:10 PM »
Am I the only one who thinks its a shame to kill something like that...I am a bowhunter also so I have no problem with bowfishing, ( for carp ). Think how old that thing was...not that your gonna eat it. No offense to the guys who did it....or would. I was just curious if anybody else is as big an "old woman" as me ;D
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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #19 on: Apr 16, 2007, 04:38 PM »
Am I the only one who thinks its a shame to kill something like that...I am a bowhunter also so I have no problem with bowfishing, ( for carp ). Think how old that thing was...not that your gonna eat it. No offense to the guys who did it....or would. I was just curious if anybody else is as big an "old woman" as me ;D
Yea, if I'm not going to eat it, use it, and its not a problem, I just let it go by, or toss it back. Seems us bow hunters tend that way more than others. Hell-of-a photo, if its legit? Line me up as "old woman". But understand I'll back the fellow sportsman all the way, even if I do it different.

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #20 on: Apr 16, 2007, 05:47 PM »
nonsense, Minnesota would be fine if they had gator gar, minnesota is loaded with longnose and shortnosed gar and you seem to be doing just fine. gator gar are al over texas and the fishing doesnt seem to be affected.

any gator gar over 300 pounds would be record breaking for rod and reel, a shame these it had to get shot and yanked ashore lifeless. I know for a fact those gar are not a tricky target. 99% of the time gar arent even moving when they are shot, and even when they are moving they sluggishly cruise just beneath the surface. Rod and reel would be an impressive way to land that. regardless nice fish.

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #21 on: Apr 16, 2007, 06:08 PM »
nonsense, Minnesota would be fine if they had gator gar, minnesota is loaded with longnose and shortnosed gar and you seem to be doing just fine. gator gar are al over texas and the fishing doesnt seem to be affected.

any gator gar over 300 pounds would be record breaking for rod and reel, a shame these it had to get shot and yanked ashore lifeless. I know for a fact those gar are not a tricky target. 99% of the time gar arent even moving when they are shot, and even when they are moving they sluggishly cruise just beneath the surface. Rod and reel would be an impressive way to land that. regardless nice fish.

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #22 on: Apr 17, 2007, 06:59 AM »
nonsense, Minnesota would be fine if they had gator gar, minnesota is loaded with longnose and shortnosed gar and you seem to be doing just fine. gator gar are al over texas and the fishing doesnt seem to be affected.

any gator gar over 300 pounds would be record breaking for rod and reel, a shame these it had to get shot and yanked ashore lifeless. I know for a fact those gar are not a tricky target. 99% of the time gar arent even moving when they are shot, and even when they are moving they sluggishly cruise just beneath the surface. Rod and reel would be an impressive way to land that. regardless nice fish.

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Non-sense? I would ask first how well you understand the predator/prey balance in Minnesota? The other Gars you refer to are relatively tiny cousins, and may require 30-40 individuals to equal one Gator Gar. The other Gars are generally not capable of devouring large Pike, Muskie and Walleye, the breeders of the population. This 300 pounder would require serious nutrition to maintain that weight, and would likely become the dominate predator in the system, completely changing the ecology of the water systems it might inhabit.
A warm water, year round system in Texas is completely different than a iced-over, sensitive system in Minnesota.
The attitude of "non-sense, Minnesota would be fine" does not sound scientific, proffessional or based on any kind of sound facts. Imagine that species of Gar foraging on Perch, Pike and Walleye and some Muskie? And how many of these species exist in the same waters in Texas as the Gator Gar? Maybe the Gator Gar is one of the reasons these waters lack any substantial population of edible game fish mentioned prior.
You say the fishing has not been effected in Texas? How would it be without Gator Gar? When were they introduced, or have they always been there? Any studies on the impact of the Giant Gator being introduced into waters previously un-inhabited by Gator Gars? Lots of questions to answer before jumping to conclusions. If a tiny mussel, Ruffe or piece of weed can devastate or completely change an eco-system, then don't be surprised if the 300 pound Gator Gar could also have a negative effect.

 

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #23 on: Apr 19, 2007, 08:28 PM »
Non-sense? I would ask first how well you understand the predator/prey balance in Minnesota? The other Gars you refer to are relatively tiny cousins, and may require 30-40 individuals to equal one Gator Gar. The other Gars are generally not capable of devouring large Pike, Muskie and Walleye, the breeders of the population. This 300 pounder would require serious nutrition to maintain that weight, and would likely become the dominate predator in the system, completely changing the ecology of the water systems it might inhabit.
A warm water, year round system in Texas is completely different than a iced-over, sensitive system in Minnesota.
The attitude of "non-sense, Minnesota would be fine" does not sound scientific, proffessional or based on any kind of sound facts. Imagine that species of Gar foraging on Perch, Pike and Walleye and some Muskie? And how many of these species exist in the same waters in Texas as the Gator Gar? Maybe the Gator Gar is one of the reasons these waters lack any substantial population of edible game fish mentioned prior.
You say the fishing has not been effected in Texas? How would it be without Gator Gar? When were they introduced, or have they always been there? Any studies on the impact of the Giant Gator being introduced into waters previously un-inhabited by Gator Gars? Lots of questions to answer before jumping to conclusions. If a tiny mussel, Ruffe or piece of weed can devastate or completely change an eco-system, then don't be surprised if the 300 pound Gator Gar could also have a negative effect.

 
  I wonder if they could be trained to eat Golbys,and Zebra mussels,and other crap that comes in with the shipping.

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #24 on: Apr 20, 2007, 06:53 AM »
Would be nice eh? ;)

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #25 on: Apr 20, 2007, 09:25 PM »
  I wonder if they could be trained to eat Golbys,and Zebra mussels,and other crap that comes in with the shipping.

You think they could be trained to eat all the rock bass? :D

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Re: Alligator Gar
« Reply #26 on: Apr 23, 2007, 01:31 PM »
You think they could be trained to eat all the rock bass? :D
You come up with some good ones Skiper.  Good fishing

 



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