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I think the USDA and the conservation guys are doing an A+++ job on Oneida anyway. Every morning and night you hear the guys chasing them off Willard and D island behind my place in the bay. Not to mention the inflatable people, and the reflective tape they put out. You do not see as many as there were before. Anyone who fishes Oneida in the summer can attest to this.cnypanfisher
obviously a perfect example of a person ignorant of the facts shooting his mouth off and badmouthing the folks who work very hard dealing with this problem of cormorants. The DEC has been doing everything they can (you try getting permits to kill federally protected migrating birds!) for close to 10 years to control these birds. no, we will never be able to irradicate them, they are protected and do have their place in the ecosystem. But they have been severely reduced by oiling, shooting, attling, and harassment. the little galoo colony is significantly smaller than it was in years past. I can't stand the birds either, but at least i've done my research at to what has been/is being done for control.why can't everyone seem to get the idea that most DEC folks are hunters and fishermen too, and took their jobs because they want to HELP. they sure didn't persue their career for the money! and not buying your license is just going to hurt you, that money funds programs that protect your hunting and fishing resources. the "do good" projects will get funded anyhow by programs like the EPA. One more piece of advice, folks should stop admitting and bragging on a public forum about shooting cormorants, which is a FEDERAL crime.
OK you have some folks chasing the Cormorants off Willard and D island. Good job. Wonder where they end up going after that. Probably waters where they are still seen by the thousands.
Maybe you could just go buy 500 shotgun shells and go on a rampage, whatever makes you feel better.
I don't recall badmouthing the DEC. In fact I don't recall the DEC even coming up.
There again what'sthe problem with this. It's the DEC/Goverment. Stop buying the liciences. Break their backs.
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Now that is a great post! thanks for the real deal on VHS. (Blue herons are nasty fish eating machines too)
Chasing them gets them off their nests to stop reproduction. As far as where they go, I think they just fly in a big circle and come back to the same spots. At least they are making an effort, and from what I hear the oiling seems to be helping out a bit on Little Galoo as well. As far as lakes near you, where you see 1000's of these birds, there is probably some group of gadam hippys lobbying for the birds rights to be. All I can think of doing is writing the state, or DEC people about it, venting in this forum is not going to do much. 99% of the people here agree that they are a nuisance, and should have some controls. Maybe you could just go buy 500 shotgun shells and go on a rampage, whatever makes you feel better.cnypanfisher
Bet they wouldnt look to cool if they where standing in your pond eating all the bass you stocked in there
Yeah blue herons are fish eating mothers, but I never saw 150 of them in 1 group. Do they really affect the fish populations as much as a cormorant? I think herons are pretty gadam cool to look at, and there is usually a pair on the point behind my house. I though they ate mostly frogs + stuff, usually in swamps. Is there a anti-frog eating blue heron group here too??cnypanfisher
I would not stock a pond with bass, bass taste like S@#$. Maybe some little trouts or something. :-)cnypanfisher
Both the Cormorant and the Blue Heron have been here alot longer than you or I have. Whether its our place or not to wipe them out, I don't know. Cormorants can be destructive to a landscape and to a body of water, and I think that they need to be controlled, but I feel that wiping them out is not the answer, as it could have a significant negative impact on the same enviornments that we are trying to protect. Not very long ago, The Double Crested Cormorant was almost completely wiped out by the use of DDT, and have made a remarkable comeback. I think its foolish and rather holier-than-thou to wipe them out.I don't think the federal government is dragging its feet on control of the population of these birds, it jsut doesn't make sense for them to do so. If anything, they have a great deal of incentive to keep cormorant numbers to a minimum, because by doing so, they would be able to keep sportfish populations up. By keeping sportfish populations up, they keep the numbers of license purchased up, and as a result, they make more money. I think the government is doing all they can to keep the reproduction of these birds under control.Just my opinion.-Wes
Why do people keep putting words in my mouth? Did I say "wipe them out?" I don't think so. I won't tolerate them in my fish ponds but I didn't say I wanted to wipe out every last one of them. Your entitled to your opinon but you are a little naive and inexperienced when it comes to the federal government. I have had dealings with them and I can tell you from my experience they certainly do "drag their feet" as they are getting paid regardless of what they do, so there is no urgency. In the November of 06 they stopped the interstate movement of live fish in response to VHS, and even though it nearly drove fish farmers out of business they were not in any hurry to come up with the next step. I think it took them several months to even make a statement. So yes they do drag their feet.
kill them!
That's what I'm talking about!!!! CNYPANFISHER suggested I buy 500 shotgun shells and start taking care of business. Actually bought a few more than that and would gladly share. Kill them all.
Id join you. I wonder if theyd be any good to eat. They pry taste good if they eat fish all of the time.
I would imagine they taste horrible, just like mergansers.