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Offline Stagger Lee

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Oneida Lake concerns:
« on: Jan 07, 2014, 04:22 PM »
LOVE Oneida Lake! Over the years fishing this lake , it is hard not to gain a respect not only for the lake itself....but the other fisherman I have met over the years . I don't want to sound like a preacher .so I am not gonna harp on the subject..but think this is important. I have seen a number of anglers leave a spot on the lake..and leave garbage, and the undesirable species they have caught...mainly Burbot,pickerel and white perch  an occasional sheepy ..just want to say that I feel it is a matter of lake ethics and very unnecessary to do this. The biology of the lake is important...these species help keep a sense of balance in the big O!They are the reason for a great fishery. I guess what I am trying to say is put em back!! It is responsible and respectful! Thanks !

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #1 on: Jan 07, 2014, 04:29 PM »
That's good practice where ever we fish, and advice that never hurts to hear again.

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #2 on: Jan 07, 2014, 04:42 PM »
I agree with most of what you are saying. I understand the burbot part but, sheepshead and white perch do not belong in Oneida Lake as they are invasive species. The yellow perch population has dropped alot since the white perch have entered the lake. I keep white perch as they make great fertilizer.  ;D In my opinion sheepshead do not do much damage so I let them go. If your going to "weed out" the invasives at least take them home and dispose of them properly. And garbage left on the lake is very intolerable  :nono: . I'm one of those guys who will take the time to pick up somebody else's mess. I'm the kind of guy that will also say something to the dirtbags and if the situation is not resolved, I have DEC on the cellphone. I don't like to rat somebody out but what they do wrong gives every icefisherman a bad reputation. It is not fair that we lose our access points and priviledges because of few morons. End of rant. 

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #3 on: Jan 07, 2014, 05:59 PM »


white perch are a virus just like people who leave garbage on the ice, they will upset the balance  , 
 

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #4 on: Jan 07, 2014, 06:35 PM »
I hate it when people try and weed out the fish and leave them on the ice. If you are not going to use it put it back or at least take them home. OR to the local food kitchen to help feed people in need!

Offline Stagger Lee

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #5 on: Jan 07, 2014, 07:06 PM »
IMHO  something that would help the yellow perch numbers would be lowering the daily limits...although some may disagree it is a valid point. As far as the people that leave garbage out on that or any lake ...I have no respect for them. Glad to see some other input on this subject though. Q: Anyone catching quality Northerns out of Oneida anymore? Been a long time since I have

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #6 on: Jan 07, 2014, 07:21 PM »
Not for nothin but i fished Onieda for the first time last feb. ( big bay) jigging for bluegills i caught 7 pickeral what a pain in the rooster those things are they cant be good for the panfish populations

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #7 on: Jan 09, 2014, 08:01 PM »


there is no need to lower the limit there isn't a problem with the population of yellows , but over population of whites will be trouble 
 

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #8 on: Jan 09, 2014, 08:21 PM »
I've heard white perch are decent eating. I've never tried it so I can't vouch. Fertilizer is a good idea though. My peppers would like that

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #9 on: Jan 09, 2014, 10:08 PM »
I wait until my Whiteys are frozen, than I throw them off your Fish Trap Stagger Lee ;D
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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #10 on: Jan 09, 2014, 10:18 PM »
I will agree with Freddy on this matter...if anyone knows the history of the lakes invasive species cycle...it's F&R ;)

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #11 on: Jan 09, 2014, 10:31 PM »
Anyone know of a good spot for white perch from the ice?  I'd love help put a small dent in the white perch population, they're tasty!

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #12 on: Jan 10, 2014, 03:04 AM »
20 years ago it was nothing to see piles of burbot on the ice on Oneida now the population is very low, silver bass white perch, pickerel etc are over populated defiantly in the lake.I believe they should be disposed of properly the garbage you see on the ice is uncalled for the people that leave garbage on the ice are GARBAGE and should be disposed of properly ;D.My main concern on Oneida is pike hogs, perch hogs people that take more than they should of walleyes and perch. I am not targeting anyone but the people that take more than there limits are the first people that complain about the population of these species we all need to respect this fishery and all other fisheries this sport has grown tremendously and I hope future anglers don't pick up bad habits that others teach.Done venting :%$#!:

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #13 on: Jan 10, 2014, 04:13 AM »
Anyone know of a good spot for white perch from the ice?  I'd love help put a small dent in the white perch population, they're tasty!
any where on the far east end of the lake
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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #14 on: Jan 10, 2014, 09:51 AM »
Thanks HT.  I haven't fished the east end of the lake, hard water and open water.  I'm on the west end primarily but haven't really run into a lot of white perch.  If there are as many as you guys have stated, have any of you guys gone out on the ice and have your catch of white perch far outnumber the yellows?  I would imagine that would be annoying for those of you who consider it a trash/invasive fish.

I wouldn't mind hitting one of those schools, if even by accident.

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #15 on: Jan 10, 2014, 10:11 AM »
Thanks HT.  I haven't fished the east end of the lake, hard water and open water.  I'm on the west end primarily but haven't really run into a lot of white perch.  If there are as many as you guys have stated, have any of you guys gone out on the ice and have your catch of white perch far outnumber the yellows?  I would imagine that would be annoying for those of you who consider it a trash/invasive fish.

I wouldn't mind hitting one of those schools, if even by accident.

Try north bay (Edgewater, north east corner of the lake) and head out towards lewis point (deeper water).  I've got into huge schools of them out there, and big fish too.  There fun when the walleye and yellows aren't hitting.

In open water try blind island (buoy 113) with a Dixie spinner and worm in the spring.  They spawn off from there and you can't keep them off your hook.
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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #16 on: Jan 10, 2014, 10:21 AM »
Try north bay (Edgewater, north east corner of the lake) and head out towards lewis point (deeper water).  I've got into huge schools of them out there, and big fish too.  There fun when the walleye and yellows aren't hitting.

In open water try blind island (buoy 113) with a Dixie spinner and worm in the spring.  They spawn off from there and you can't keep them off your hook.

Great info Otis!  Thanks.  I guess I'll have to try the east end of the lake this year.  I've caught good numbers of them in Maple Bay in late spring, but that's only once or twice a year.  This should definitely increase my chances.

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #17 on: Jan 11, 2014, 09:45 AM »
Thanks HT.  I haven't fished the east end of the lake, hard water and open water.  I'm on the west end primarily but haven't really run into a lot of white perch.  If there are as many as you guys have stated, have any of you guys gone out on the ice and have your catch of white perch far outnumber the yellows?  I would imagine that would be annoying for those of you who consider it a trash/invasive fish.

I wouldn't mind hitting one of those schools, if even by accident.

they haven't migrated in huge no. west yet, the east end has plenty  but we don't start looking for them yet , we are not even on the lake until the first week in Jan. normally, we shoot at them a little later in the season , you will know when you find them your graph will look like a X-Mas tree  ;)
 

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #18 on: Jan 11, 2014, 01:46 PM »
they haven't migrated in huge no. west yet, the east end has plenty  but we don't start looking for them yet , we are not even on the lake until the first week in Jan. normally, we shoot at them a little later in the season , you will know when you find them your graph will look like a X-Mas tree ;)
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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #19 on: Jan 11, 2014, 02:20 PM »
They are not the easiest thing in the world to catch either, at least in my opinion. Once my flasher is lit up with those things, the only way to get rid of them is to move. They'll hang there for hours it seems

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #20 on: Jan 11, 2014, 02:28 PM »
Try north bay (Edgewater, north east corner of the lake) and head out towards lewis point (deeper water).  I've got into huge schools of them out there, and big fish too.  There fun when the walleye and yellows aren't hitting.

In open water try blind island (buoy 113) with a Dixie spinner and worm in the spring.  They spawn off from there and you can't keep them off your hook.
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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #21 on: Jan 11, 2014, 02:59 PM »
Ill take a pile of white perch also, they fry up as well as anything else...not sure why some fish get such a stigma

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Re: Oneida Lake concerns:
« Reply #22 on: Jan 11, 2014, 03:46 PM »
They are not the easiest thing in the world to catch either, at least in my opinion. Once my flasher is lit up with those things, the only way to get rid of them is to move. They'll hang there for hours it seems

takes a little practice , if you look at them their mouths are a little smaller and have a tendency to push up on your jig , work them slow and fish them more like crapes hope this helps , once you get them in rhythm you will smok-em
 

 



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