Hey RIfish good to hear from ya! Alton's looking great, locked up early and the rain knocked down the deep snow so as today it is smooth ice, but it needs to get a few more cold nights and should be good for your 4 wheelers. I have not taken a recent Ice check but I am guessing a good 8" in the middle out from the launch. Been watching the cam everyday and have not seen any sleds out there yet. Ought to be hardwater fisherman wall to wall come 01-01-08. I think I am gonna try out in front of the mounts wharf area in the beginning, look for my shack. See you guys out there.