shanty protection

[jacksmelt71]

 i believe maine is the same. can own it but cant hunt with it.

[Woodguy]

If you are that paranoid to carry a gun while ice fishing, maybe you need an evaluation.  I wouldn't want to be near anyone packing,,,,,,,,,,especially if they like to tip a few. I am an avid hunter, but I can't see the reason to carry when fishing.........unless perhaps you are hoping for a confrontation??? Are there alot of street gangs roaming the ice up there in NH?

[cnyfishing]

If you are that paranoid to carry a gun while ice fishing, maybe you need an evaluation. 

are you serious?  If someone wants to carry while ice fishing thats fine with me. I think it is a very good idea, especially because if your life is being threatened by someone, there is no way that the cops would be able to get to you on the lake fast enough to save you/catch the person, if they even go on the ice at all.....
And I do hope that if someone does take a gun on the ice that they are smart enough to drink, or at least not get drunk.

[twodoggs]

Last year on the lake that i had my house on 12 perms with wheels were stolen.  the people were caught when they hooks up to one while the owner was in it.  would you like to have a gun with at that point?  I know I would.

[fishfinder24]

In today's world I don't blame anyone for carrying "responsibly" and legally.  You just never know.  It doesn't matter where you're from or where you're goin-there is always the possiblilty of violence.  Or, as stated before, some critters. 

[Woodguy]

Well, in nearly 25 yrs. of ice fishing, I have never had my life threatened.......or even a bad encounter . If it makes you feel macho, then go for it. If everyone carried a gun, then it would get real ugly.

[jabers69]

Holy crap . Man I glad I live in the great white north . I did think icefishing was that dangerous

[feasanthunter]

jabers, can you carry or even own a sidearm up there?

[fishfinder24]

I'm just curious-did anyone refer to carrying a gun with them to feel macho?  I don't recall seeing that.  I don't doubt a bit that some people do but no one on this thread I believe is stating that.  Besides who would they have to impress-the fish?  Why do you have such an issue if someone decides to carry with them or not. 

[gunner1]

I'm just curious-did anyone refer to carrying a gun with them to feel macho?  I don't recall seeing that.  I don't doubt a bit that some people do but no one on this thread I believe is stating that.  Besides who would they have to impress-the fish?  Why do you have such an issue if someone decides to carry with them or not. 

 EXACTLY!! It's stuff like that that divides gun owners. The so-called " avid hunters" who don't like people carrying pistols or owning AR15's because THEY don't see a need for them. All this does is give the anti-gunners more fuel for their fire. The enemy should be without, not within!!

[donmac]

Just in case folks from other parts of the world get the idea that you need to carry to be safe while ice-fishing in NH…

In 2004 the top 5 safest states (http://www.morganquitno.com/dangsaf04.htm) were  North Dakota, Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, and South Dakota. 

Given that ice fishing tends to take place in remote rural locations, I’d suggest that statistically, ice fishing in NH, or any of the other above locations, has got to be one of the safest activities out there.   If I felt I needed a gun to protect my shanty while I’m ice fishing, I’d find another hobby. 

That said, I have no problem with well balanced people carrying on the ice or anywhere else. (I’m a hunter, have an over-full gun safe, and know lots of folks who carry.)

I just don’t want folks to go away thinking you NEED a gun to protect your shanty in NH…   

[Woodguy]

I guess I should start carrying my 30-06 so I can shoot someone if they try and take my minnow bucket . I own atleast 20 guns(a few handguns too), but ice fishing is the last place that I feel that I need one. Oh, of course nobody is going to admit they feel "macho" carrying. What problems do you expect to encounter while on the ice? Do you carry lots of money or jewelry when persuing perch? Maybe 60 Minutes will address this in a future program called......."Crime on the Hardwater" .

[Waubay Fisher]

Do hooks, foreceps, gerber plyers, and ice picks count as lethal weapons?!?!! 

Seriously though... I've never had the need for a weapon when doing any kinds of fishing.  However, as many people have said, to each his own and there ARE a lot of crazy people out there that are capable of Lord knows what!  The icefisherman I've encountered on the ice though have all been good natured.  I think it takes a special breed of fisherman to be on the ice.... but... there are some who spoil it for the many by unfortunately stealing property.  If I were that guy in the shanty while someone was hooking it up to rip it off, I'd want to have at aleast a good stick to waive in his face to ward him off!!!

-WF.

[cnyfishing]

Do hooks, foreceps, gerber plyers, and ice picks count as lethal weapons?!?!! 

Of course.... but don't forget the four foot long gaff hook 

[fishfinder24]

"What problems do you expect to encounter while on the ice?"
Woodguy-what problems do you expect when you are going out to pick up a gallon of milk?  I am not saying that there is a "need" ,so to speak, to carry while icefishing.  I don't, however, have an issue with someone if they do carry on the ice responsibly.  I have a carry permit for my Glock 30-I haven't ever taken it on the ice with me.  Each is left to decide for him/herself.  I just can't believe guys are getting bashed on this site by other "members" for carrying a sidearm on the ice for protection.  Every season there is a topic on here that gets guys goin and looks like this will be one.

[Waubay Fisher]

Of course.... but don't forget the four foot long gaff hook 

Oh yeah, I forgot about the gaff!!! 

[rendo]

 Gotta pertect yourself from those snow snakes sneaking up on you I guess

[stumper]

I used my .22 pistol to kill 2 mice in my hardside last year. little buggers chewed through  the lid on my peanuts.

stump

[jacksmelt71]

stumper, you reminded me of my uncle. he had a otter that would come up his shack hole while he was out checking his tip ups and it would eat his smelt. our shack was right next door to him. we heard him cursing then mumble "ill take care of his a**''! he got in his truck and left. a little while later we heard him pull back in and go in his shack. about a half hr. later we heard a gunshot. we raced over to his cabin flung the door open to see my uncle with a .410 in his hands laughing like a hyena, with otter brains all over the wall of the cabin! he says in french ''hes not gonna' eat my bait anymore!'' i think he had a little too much brandy that day but it sure was funny! just figured i would try to lighten things up a bit.

[twodoggs]

one think is true to each his own.  If you are legally carring that is your option.  I also believe that a armed society is a polite society

[Kodiakman]

You know it's funny, I don't carry a gun on the ice...simply because I don't have one.  Someone mentioned that South Dakota is one of the safest states to live in.  That's nice sentiment if all your looking at is Crime Stats.  Around here we have an increasing Mountain Lion problem.  After several peoples dogs got eaten and numerous sighting over the last few years around Rapid City, SDGFP finally started a Mountain Lion hunting season.  I've been seriously considering buying a sidearm just in case. Until I do, the cubs are staying home unless were with a large group.  I've also heard about the shanty's being stolen and how soon we forget about the guy in MN that went off his rocker and killed several other hunters because of a tree stand dispute last year.  You never know.  I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

[Waubay Fisher]

stumper, you reminded me of my uncle. he had a otter that would come up his shack hole while he was out checking his tip ups and it would eat his smelt. our shack was right next door to him. we heard him cursing then mumble "ill take care of his a**''! he got in his truck and left. a little while later we heard him pull back in and go in his shack. about a half hr. later we heard a gunshot. we raced over to his cabin flung the door open to see my uncle with a .410 in his hands laughing like a hyena, with otter brains all over the wall of the cabin! he says in french ''hes not gonna' eat my bait anymore!'' i think he had a little too much brandy that day but it sure was funny! just figured i would try to lighten things up a bit.

GEEZ!  That is funny as all heck!!! LOL  Very very good stuff.  I would probably keel over from laughing so hard if that was me walking through the door!!!

You know it's funny, I don't carry a gun on the ice...simply because I don't have one.  Someone mentioned that South Dakota is one of the safest states to live in.  That's nice sentiment if all your looking at is Crime Stats.  Around here we have an increasing Mountain Lion problem.  After several peoples dogs got eaten and numerous sighting over the last few years around Rapid City, SDGFP finally started a Mountain Lion hunting season.  I've been seriously considering buying a sidearm just in case. Until I do, the cubs are staying home unless were with a large group.  I've also heard about the shanty's being stolen and how soon we forget about the guy in MN that went off his rocker and killed several other hunters because of a tree stand dispute last year.  You never know.  I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Kodiak - you definitely have a very good point going here with this too.  There has even been a mt lion reported in the grenville/waubay lake area and it's been sighted several times.  However, with the large amount of predator feed such as deer and what-not I haven't really worried about it.  I have heard and read that they are pretty thick out by Rapid and west-river.  I hope after they do some research and all they decide to keep the season open.  It'd be nice to bag a mt. lion sometime in the future, if the opportunity ever existed.  And yes, I too remember reading all sorts of articles about cats, dogs, farmstock, etc. getting taken westriver by them.  That stupid *** out in wisconsion - I'm so glad he got life without parole.  Absolutely horrific crime & no remorse or apology or nothing at all during the closing statements from stuff i read on cnn & tv... Guys a loonie - those are the ones you have to be careful around!

-WF.

[Adrock]

I never really felt the need for a gun on the ice.  Although perch/skeet shooting with a 12 guage on the ice could be pretty entertaining.  But in all seriousness, if I felt that i needed a gun with me on the ice, i would probaly find something else to do in the winter.  However, I am also a big fan of the second ammendment, so if other people want to carry weapons with them on the ice and they do it safely and responsibly, then more power to 'em.

[madporider]

we dont lock our shack at all and we wrote a small note on our table that anyone is welcome to use our shack just please dont steal or break anything and pretty please leave some beer for us. of the 7 years we have had our shack nobody stole or broke anything in it and we have actually been left with some frozen solid beers on the table.  we are building a new shack this year and we will certainly put the same table in it.

[GEM_EYE_GUY]

Hey Mad,
can you give me gps coordinates to your shack?  8)

[capt.shay]

We purchased a Daisy pistol just for the trapping basket.  When the fishing is really slow we stalk some of them dreaded empty beer cans or try to get a flag to go off with a well placed shot.  The minnow bucket also looks like it's been beat on by a mini ball peen hammer.   

Funny thing, we got hassled by a EPO because he said we could not shoot a BB gun on a Sunday in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts unless we were on an approved range.  I'm pretty sure that he was full of shtuff.  That law only applies to "Fire arms" and I know that a bb gun is not classified as such.  I live eight miles from VT and twelve miles from NH,  I have been thinking real seriously of a move north in the near future.

Capt.

[cnyfishing]

a BB gun can be consitered a fire arm....which is a A portable gun. even though the BB isn't fired by a powder charge I can see where the EPO was coming from. I don't think that moving is going to solve your problems. If I was being "hassled" by an EPO for shooting a BB gun on the lake I would certainly back off for fear of being charged with something like "reckless use or discharge of a weapon" I'm not trying to wreck your fun, but I hope that you were a good distance away from everyone else for safety

[shrub]

I dont care what state your in,Full auto is against FEDERAL LAW.I think you must be in a state of confusion?lol


stump

i never said anything about full auto i was talking about a glock pistol wiht a aftermarket hi-cap mag, like this one     http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=137761           the only gun control laws in V.T are federl laws. it is legal to own a full auto or select fire if you have the goverment issued permit, somewhat hard to get. i would like to get one someday. i really dont understand the reason for the permits, crimanls get thema anyway

[capt.shay]

. even though the BB isn't fired by a powder charge I can see where the EPO was coming from. I don't think that moving is going to solve your problems. If I was being "hassled" by an EPO for shooting a BB gun on the lake I would certainly back off for fear of being charged with something like "reckless use or discharge of a weapon" I'm not trying to wreck your fun, but I hope that you were a good distance away from everyone else for safety

" a BB gun can be consitered a fire arm....which is a A portable gun"

Let's try the first definition shall we:

"fire·arm   Audio pronunciation of "firearm" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (frärm)
n.

    A weapon, especially a pistol or rifle, capable of firing a projectile and using an explosive charge as a propellant."


And that is the Mass. laws interpretation as well.  You don't need a license for one Etc.

If I JB Weld it to a large rock with a swivel mount would it no longer be consitered a "fire arm"?


"I don't think that moving is going to solve your problems."
 
Moving to NY wouldn't because it is about the only state in the North East that has more insane gun laws than Mass.


If I was being "hassled" by an EPO for shooting a BB gun on the lake I would certainly back off for fear of being charged with something like "reckless use or discharge of a weapon"

We weren't even using it at the time.  It looks a little like a real hand gun so we informed him that we had a bb gun and it was sitting on top of the basket so if he saw it he would not feel threatend.  We said no problem and that we would put it away.



"I'm not trying to wreck your fun, but I hope that you were a good distance away from everyone else for safety"

Actually,  we line the little kids up directly behind the minnow bucket so we can have better target acquisition.  **censored** DUDE! 

The lake we were on at the time had exactly zero other occupants.

I know that I'm comming down heavy on you but the second amendment means a little something to me and I don't like what I have been seeing in my state.  And also remember, we are talking about a "fire arm" that, if you fired it directly in to your palm at point blank range, would cause no perminent damage. I hope I don't offend you.  Remember that it's just an internet chat room and I mean you no ill will and wish you many flags.

[ice dawg]

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