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DR.SPECKLER, what year did you buy your Hardwater bibs? I just bought my Hardwater bibs and used them Saturday for the first time and they lived up to my expectations and appear to be very well made. The only two things I would change on them is I would put the snakeskin material that's on the knees from the bottom of the legs up to the the bottom of the knee pads so there's no chance of the cuffs ever wearing out and have more of an elastic waist band, the one in them doesn't stretch much at all. The elastic waist band would help out guys like me who are in between sizes that really don't need to go up a size for any other reason than wanting to have the peace of mind that they won't have to go get a new pair of bibs if they gain some weight. As for the snakeskin on the bottom of the legs, it really isn't much of an issue since you can adjust the leg length so they aren't dragging but it would be a nice addition. On Saturday it wasn't very cold or windy, it was damp with light rain off and on the light rain beaded up, rolled off, the dampness didn't penetrate, and they worked great in my opinion. This week it's going to be noticeably colder so that'll be a better test but I'm sure I'm not going to be disappointed.
I got the ice lite suit the first year they came out like 2 years ago and bought the striker hardwater suit last season.the stitching keeps fraying or coming undone in the crotch/inside and outside and in the legs too.i have the correct size as I wear 3x.my striker gloves stitching came undone also.idk keep an eye on the stitching thru the years is all ii can say.
I bought the best pair Cabelas had 15 years ago and I am still wearing them,no leaks,no tears,no broken zippers,no problems at all.Love it!