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thank you grump . the scale i used was old so maybe it was heavier. what i caught it on and what i always catch my big pike on: a large treble with a 7-8" smelt tipped for bait. I was fishing in only about 3 feet of water, considering there was about 4 feet of ice! (it was in march, prime pike time for my pike spot). it took around a minute to haul er in, when i fighting it, i was thinking:Wow, this seems a bit heftier than the usual pike! and when he was flopping on the ice i was pretty excited. my dad has been fishing in this particular spot for around 10 years. he has caught his share of 20+pounders in this spot (I'm not lying either ) This was my first year fishing at this spot and really enjoyed it.