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With the clam plate and electric drills pushing 1200in/lbs plus and clam having the gear box, are any companies coming out with 10in hand augers? I know nils has one, but they are about like finding a unicorn.....and expensive.
I'd like to get one just for the wheel house, so when it's cold a guy's hole doesn't ice closed so fast.
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I thought strikemaster made a hand crank mora 10 inch many moons ago.maybe I was dreaming but I believe they did...maybe not. if so they are probably rare.
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dr, i had a 10 in. Mora back in the 80,s. what a workout! but, sorta young ,n, definately foolish, so what the hey. bought it from a buddy who went gas, so i went with him when i could, but many a day i was crankin that beast on my own. only salvation was, here in Pa. we don,t see much more,n, a foot of ice. good times tho, wire
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You have me beat in that you couldn't pay me to hand drill a hole with a ten inch auger an eight inch is enough of a pain when you have good thick ice.
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You have me beat in that you couldn't pay me to hand drill a hole with a ten inch auger an eight inch is enough of a pain when you have good thick ice.
It would be for on the clam plate with a drill running it.
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Why not just buy the ten inch bit from a power auger?? Would be easier then finding a nills ??
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Why not just buy the ten inch bit from a power auger?? Would be easier then finding a nills ??
because it would defeat the purpose of a drill auger. light and easy. plus a really heavy power auger bit would more then likely burn up a drill.
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because it would defeat the purpose of a drill auger. light and easy. plus a really heavy power auger bit would more then likely burn up a drill.
take a look again at his reply... He is saying to buy the bit only. I don't believe that you need to have a "hand auger" bit. A 10" bit from a power auger should work just as good.... may even better with the increased speeds.
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What about the ION 10" bit? I think its hard to find a 10" hand auger for a reason, you might need to be built like popeye to use it ;)
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now I'm in the search for a 10 inch hand auger at a garage sale.just to have all the sizes...ive got multiple 4,5,6,7,8,9" augers in hand/gas auger bits and need a 10.lol.i always wanted to hand crank a hole where my vexilar propack can fall right in.haha
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10" gas auger bit on a drill set up? Even with the Clam reduction gear, that set up would be a pig. Weight and speed reduction of the gearing plus the amount of ice that comes out of a 10" hole...I'd like to see that in action. How many holes do you think you would get with a heavy gas auger 10" bit??
The drills rigs are really only meant to spin light hand augers and maybe 8" max.
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With the clam plate and electric drills pushing 1200in/lbs plus and clam having the gear box, are any companies coming out with 10in hand augers? I know nils has one, but they are about like finding a unicorn.....and expensive.
I'd like to get one just for the wheel house, so when it's cold a guy's hole doesn't ice closed so fast.
The real possibility is K-Drill. I'd bet money they have one near release.
If IceGator made any of their 9½" bits that's another choice. But don't send him any money because you'll have to get in line behind those that have paid for 9½" Auger bits and are still waiting from 2 years ago.
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Google Arksen 10" ice augers bit....Cant beat that........
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So I Googled it, "Arksen 10" ice augers bit"
$65 on Amazon, in stock, 15 lbs.
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Says ships free to walmart also......
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hes looking for a 10 inch hand cranker,alot less weight than putting a heavy gas ice auger bit on a drill.might as well drag a gas auger with ya if your lugging a 15# auger bit connected to a drill.it does say in the questions it can be used with a large cordless drill tho.lol.i might try one of those bits on my Michigander ice auger I just bought for 5 bucks..
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i wouldn't put a bit designed for a gas power head on an electric drill, never mind 6" or 10". but i'm pretty sure mora used to make a 10" hand crank. my old soccer coach, also a prison guard, used to drill that thing through 3' of ice like nobody's business.
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10" gas auger bit on a drill set up? Even with the Clam reduction gear, that set up would be a pig. Weight and speed reduction of the gearing plus the amount of ice that comes out of a 10" hole...I'd like to see that in action. How many holes do you think you would get with a heavy gas auger 10" bit??
The drills rigs are really only meant to spin light hand augers and maybe 8" max.
There was a guy on here last year that had a 10in nils on the Milwaukee 1200 in lb without the gear reduction. said it cut like a dream and worked great, and was pretty light weight. I can probly find a nils someplace, but for a 10in nils, spare cutting head and everything I'd hate to know how much it was.I Like my 8in nils, but got that for $125 shipped on a cabelas deal and found a used cutting head frank sharpened for $45. I'm afraid with the limited amount of the nils 10in you'd be talking well over $200 for the auger and at least $99 for a spare head. Hence why I'm looking for a different hand auger. I've been scanning the bay for an old 10in mora with the screw connector & trying to find the guy on the bay that makes the clam plate adaptor to them. Figured I could maybe get in to the 10in for $60-$80 that way since I'd only use it in the wheel house.
Found it in the ice auger bit where it was under OMG nils won't take back......
I do use the 10" Nils on my Clamplate. My plate does not have the gear box. I have zero issues punching holes with it. If I intend on punching a lot of holes I just put the bit back on the Tanaka.
My Mikita has 1000in/lbs of torque. Your Milwaukee should work great
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Why not just drill two or three 8 inch holes close together?? then punch out the rest with a spud?? if it's just for a flasher that's why guys like that 6inch laser or 7 inch mora cause.. they punch 3 holes in a triangle shape and gives more area at that point.. another point is why buy non need equipment. Is most likely a lot of guys views.. and why they don't make it.. like a lot are saying that the 8 inch is hard enough to turn. That's why they don't make the 10 inch..
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If it's for a fish house won't a 10 inch "ion" electric auger bit work with your drill?? Or what about buying the ion it's self??
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If it's for a fish house won't a 10 inch "ion" electric auger bit work with your drill?? Or what about buying the ion it's self??
My uncle has an Ion. Tried it. It is not bad for an 8in bit, but if you try the 10in bit u can get on them it is way underpowered for the 10in bit. Also the batteries are expensive for them, and the handles stick out and get in the way when trying to drill some of the holes. I think the biggest battery is a 5ah, the original came with a 4ah. The batteries are expensive, and it cuts somewhat slow.
I found the 1200in/lb Milwaukee drill on a clam plate to be a lot easier to fit into tight corners in the wheel house. I have two batteries that came with it (5ah) and can take the drill off it and put a bit in it to raise my wheel house up so I don't have to crank it. Plus it's super light weight. I've already got all of it, and just looking for a 10in light weight hand auger so when it's cold out the holes don't freeze closed so fast, same for the tip up holes. If I could find a decent 10in hand auger, I'd probly get the 9ah battery to up the amount of holes I could cut if I was going out to find fish. I'm guessing a clam plate/Milwaukee/10in hand auger would be around 20 lbs. I think my setup plate/milwaukee/8in nils is about 15lbs. I doubt any 10in setup would be lighter.
Thinking an old used 10in mora with the screw on/off handle and adaptor for it to the clam plate would run me about. $60-$70 if I can find them. An Ion 10in bit runs $180. If I needed new blades for the 10in mora I believe the 10in ion blades would work on it.
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Why not just drill two or three 8 inch holes close together?? then punch out the rest with a spud?? if it's just for a flasher that's why guys like that 6inch laser or 7 inch mora cause.. they punch 3 holes in a triangle shape and gives more area at that point.. another point is why buy non need equipment. Is most likely a lot of guys views.. and why they don't make it.. like a lot are saying that the 8 inch is hard enough to turn. That's why they don't make the 10 inch..
It is for in my wheel house. It's a big enough pain getting one drilled, centered, and straight. Trying to drill three......especially in the tight corners would be a pain. Plus the hole reverse to Un slush the hole wouldn't work so well. I've got a 6in lazer, three 8in hand augers. (Two which I'm willing to sell) and a 8in jiffy 'model 30 3hp. Need and want are two different things lol. If one $70-$80 investment makes things easier for the next few hrs and seasons I'm willing to pay it.
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I hear ya on the other points.. I sent you a pm on who sells the nils 10 inch nils hand auger for $360 might want to call them ?? and maybe pre sale buy it so they can order it in for you?? B4 ice season? ?
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Prospector from wyoming has a 10in nils on a milwaukee drill, but I'm pretty sure it was not your normal around the house drill and that thing cut like no other thru 2'+ of ice. No Prob. No plate needed. I'll hit him up and see if he has a pic of it or info on it
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Prospector from wyoming has a 10in nils on a milwaukee drill, but I'm pretty sure it was not your normal around the house drill and that thing cut like no other thru 2'+ of ice. No Prob. No plate needed. I'll hit him up and see if he has a pic of it or info on it
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Yep I got the same drill........I had the Milwaukee 725in/lb drill which worked fine on my 8in nils. But I had to get the 1200 in/lb when it came out. I put the chuck back on the 725 then tried to use it to get the chuck screw lose from the 1200......the $@b managed to rip the drill and vice and a chunk of the counter top right off.
My uncle was also using it and the easy up bit to crank his shack up off the ice. He wasn't paying attention and basicly snaped the cable cord with it.....lol These drills will break your wrist.
prospector are you using the 9ah battery?
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Yes 9ah. 4&5 ah work fine as well. 21 holes in 2 ft of hard ice with a 5ah. Have not done a test with a 9ah. I use a quick release chuck and welded a male end on the auger bit. I got my auger from M.G.
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I hear ya on the other points.. I sent you a pm on who sells the nils 10 inch nils hand auger for $360 might want to call them ?? and maybe pre sale buy it so they can order it in for you?? B4 ice season? ?
While I'd like a nils. I'm not paying $360 for a 10in hand auger, and $199.00 for a 10in cutting head. I'll wait and see if I can find an old 10in mora. That is just rediculous.
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While I'd like a nils. I'm not paying $360 for a 10in hand auger, and $199.00 for a 10in cutting head. I'll wait and see if I can find an old 10in mora. That is just rediculous.
I don't blame ya one bit I don't like nils I got two of them sharpening costs a arm and a leg same with the blades.. your looking at half the cost of the auger for a spare head in the 8 inch most likely same price on ten inch.. to bad no one made a blade conversion for the mora to a laser.. in a 8 inch laser or the 10 inch to a power laser bit would be nice.. sharpening is cheap for those blades and they cut that much better.. then the mora.. but I can wish in one hand and crap in the other.. guess wich gets filled first?? ;D
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For electric drill augers, I like the angle of the mora blades myself... They are easy to sharpen too..
They are really light, and I've heard about them being sold in a 10 at some point in the past..
Might be an option...
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I don't blame ya one bit I don't like nils I got two of them sharpening costs a arm and a leg same with the blades.. your looking at half the cost of the auger for a spare head in the 8 inch most likely same price on ten inch.. to bad no one made a blade conversion for the mora to a laser.. in a 8 inch laser or the 10 inch to a power laser bit would be nice.. sharpening is cheap for those blades and they cut that much better.. then the mora.. but I can wish in one hand and crap in the other.. guess wich gets filled first?? ;D
Oh I love my 8in nils. The heads do stay sharp a long time. I might just have to stick with it, if I cant find a 10in mora. The do make a conversion kit to got from a mora to a lazer
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A 10" hole by hand? Wow. Why not buy a strikemaster electric unit? You have batteries in your wheelhouse already.
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A 10" hole by hand? Wow. Why not buy a strikemaster electric unit? You have batteries in your wheelhouse already.
Does nobody read the thread?
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Does nobody ready the thread?
Doesn't anyone read what they wrote before they post.. lol
Just messing with ya.. I agree..
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Oh I love my 8in nils. The heads do stay sharp a long time. I might just have to stick with it, if I cant find a 10in mora. The do make a conversion kit to got from a mora to a lazer
But not the 8 inch or 10 inch mora to laser. They make it up to a 7 inch and small as s 5 inch.. but if you were to just buy the 6 and 5 inch it's the same as the conversion.. but if you remember mora made a run of augers with a off set handle?? Which make really good hand auger in augers... while the 7 inch laser has the ice breaker bars the mora did not have the ice breakers.. make it hard to drill the last few turns with a laser.. might be worth picking up the 7 inch mora adaptor while you can cause the mora don't have the ice breaking bars on it and cut much easier with the laser adaptor then a standard nib laser 7 inch .. and the blades are plain and simply cheaper..
now if they made a 10 inch or 8 inch adaptor for the mora to laser blades I would be thrilled to own one I got a 8 inch mora with off set handle but would love to buy a 10 inch that's how lt goes
like you said earllier the ion in a 10 inch plain sucked is true why not to get it..
By the way not much difference in a 7 or a 8 inch hole it's only half inch on around bigger on each half of the circle.. it would save cash on those $100 heads for nils if you could use it??
You could always get a ice hand saw and saw spud it bigger like the nils ice saw.. if you had square hatches ??
There's more then one way to skin a fish like we all know.. lol's
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Does nobody read the thread?
I did. Missed the part about the clam drill plate. My bad. Still think it's too much for any drill combo.
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I did. Missed the part about the clam drill plate. My bad. Still think it's too much for any drill combo.
Then you haven't read the thread. People are already using the nils 10in on a makita and the Milwaukee with 1000-1200in/lbs with no gear box and happy.
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But not the 8 inch or 10 inch mora to laser. They make it up to a 7 inch and small as s 5 inch.. but if you were to just buy the 6 and 5 inch it's the same as the conversion.. but if you remember mora made a run of augers with a off set handle?? Which make really good hand auger in augers... while the 7 inch laser has the ice breaker bars the mora did not have the ice breakers.. make it hard to drill the last few turns with a laser.. might be worth picking up the 7 inch mora adaptor while you can cause the mora don't have the ice breaking bars on it and cut much easier with the laser adaptor then a standard nib laser 7 inch .. and the blades are plain and simply cheaper..
now if they made a 10 inch or 8 inch adaptor for the mora to laser blades I would be thrilled to own one I got a 8 inch mora with off set handle but would love to buy a 10 inch that's how lt goes
like you said earllier the ion in a 10 inch plain sucked is true why not to get it..
By the way not much difference in a 7 or a 8 inch hole it's only half inch on around bigger on each half of the circle.. it would save cash on those $100 heads for nils if you could use it??
You could always get a ice hand saw and saw spud it bigger like the nils ice saw.. if you had square hatches ??
There's more then one way to skin a fish like we all know.. lol's
Chilly, just a heads up. The shaver style blades are set on a standard type/setting/fit. I had a 7in Eskimo shaver. That I converted to a 7in lazer. Well to make a long story short, The difference between the 7in shaver and 8in shaver was the set of blades. You could by a set of 8in blades that fit on the 7in auger. So I believe that you can make an 8in or 7in mora into a 8in lazer using the. 7in adaptor, because the only difference between the 7in and in is the blade size.
However, if you want a unit without the breaker bar, look up the Thunder Bay blazer auger. I has a poly head/blade mount and the support bar is behind it. So that might prevent the bar from catching on the ice before it is cut.
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My uncle has an Ion. Tried it. It is not bad for an 8in bit, but if you try the 10in bit u can get on them it is way underpowered for the 10in bit. Also the batteries are expensive for them, and the handles stick out and get in the way when trying to drill some of the holes. I think the biggest battery is a 5ah, the original came with a 4ah. The batteries are expensive, and it cuts somewhat slow.
I found the 1200in/lb Milwaukee drill on a clam plate to be a lot easier to fit into tight corners in the wheel house. I have two batteries that came with it (5ah) and can take the drill off it and put a bit in it to raise my wheel house up so I don't have to crank it. Plus it's super light weight. I've already got all of it, and just looking for a 10in light weight hand auger so when it's cold out the holes don't freeze closed so fast, same for the tip up holes. If I could find a decent 10in hand auger, I'd probly get the 9ah battery to up the amount of holes I could cut if I was going out to find fish. I'm guessing a clam plate/Milwaukee/10in hand auger would be around 20 lbs. I think my setup plate/milwaukee/8in nils is about 15lbs. I doubt any 10in setup would be lighter.
Thinking an old used 10in mora with the screw on/off handle and adaptor for it to the clam plate would run me about. $60-$70 if I can find them. An Ion 10in bit runs $180. If I needed new blades for the 10in mora I believe the 10in ion blades would work on it.
I know the Ion 10 inch is a piece of crap with the ion power head but what if you used the bit by its self? Like at the link below you can buy thd bits seprate from the power head's.. like at this link for all augers .. not saying you got to stick with the 10 inch at link there is even 10.25 inch with chipper blades from laser power heads but mate it to a strong drill like link below.. now if you search hard enough pair it with a great drill even some think like at the link below the bit.. I think its the milwaukee full sds rotory hammer drill will get it in a minute that should power a ten inch no problem.. and won't smoke up your fish house.. what's your thoughs of mating a set up?? Like I said here??
10 inch Auger bit:
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/ion-cast-bottom-ice-fishing-auger-bit-8-or-10?a=1946971&pm2d=CSE-SPG-15-PLA&utm_medium=PLA&utm_source=Google&utm_campaign=CI&gclid=CjwKCAjw_dTMBRBHEiwApIzn_CtnPhtxaeoH0Yt6uWqjyzg0HID6PuVgz-6PvO46evtC_7sLin2bNhoCNqUQAvD_BwE (https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/ion-cast-bottom-ice-fishing-auger-bit-8-or-10?a=1946971&pm2d=CSE-SPG-15-PLA&utm_medium=PLA&utm_source=Google&utm_campaign=CI&gclid=CjwKCAjw_dTMBRBHEiwApIzn_CtnPhtxaeoH0Yt6uWqjyzg0HID6PuVgz-6PvO46evtC_7sLin2bNhoCNqUQAvD_BwE)
Sds hammer drill milwaukee 0756-20 :
https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/0756-20 (https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/0756-20)
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I'm not worried about the drill. I'm pretty sure the Milwaukee I have will turn a 10in hand. I didn't think about the ion 10in bit. It might work. I believe the ion auger is built lighter like hand augers, and not heavy like the power ones are.
Still gonna see if I can find a 10in mora though.
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I'm not worried about the drill. I'm pretty sure the Milwaukee I have will turn a 10in hand. I didn't think about the ion 10in bit. It might work. I believe the ion auger is built lighter like hand augers, and not heavy like the power ones are.
Still gonna see if I can find a 10in mora though.
I wish you luck on finding a 10 inch mora.. heck I help by keeping a eye out for one too.. I spot one I will pm it to you .. I was only suggesting the power bit cause the nils is expensive and heads are non existence and cost a ton to sharpen.. I know you know the whole speal about nils.. any how will try and keep a eye out for a mora 10 inch..
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power bits will not work on the plate as the shaft diameter of the plate is smaller then the power bit. you would have to machine a filler sleeve to get it to hook to the plate.
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I'm not worried about the drill. I'm pretty sure the Milwaukee I have will turn a 10in hand. I didn't think about the ion 10in bit. It might work. I believe the ion auger is built lighter like hand augers, and not heavy like the power ones are.
Still gonna see if I can find a 10in mora though.
Pm sent about a 10in mora
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Let us know if you found one at the right price??
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Not to hijack this thread but does anyone know much about this 10in Lazer 224 bit? Atleast i think that's what it is. Got one from a buddy on a trade for a downrigger and only drilled 2 holes with it. Was to much for my 15+ year old mag 2000 8in.. Infact I don't believe he ever used it. Got it mailed to his house by a hockey company by mistake. Pretty much on my way to all electric and haven't decided what I want to do with it yet without knowing much about this type of bit
(https://www.in-depthoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Ice-224.jpg)
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That is one bizarre looking auger bit.
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Hope this is of some help , part no LPD 10"PB 224
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older lazer 224 strike master auger. 4 blade model
« on: Jan 04, 2011, 07:20 PM »
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i know the 4 blade model is discontinued but i refuse to get rid of mine... its fast and i can drill holes on holes very easy.
so i called strikemaster for blades...got part numbers....baaaaaa what a mistake....way off.
anyone here know where i can get a set of the 4 blades?....or what combination of blades make up the drill set?
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you have the 8" or 10"
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you have the 8" or 10"
DUH sorry 10
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I'm not sure on size, I have a 10" 224 also, you're best bet is to measure the blades, the first cutting blades are for a hand auger then you have the serrated blades next, you might want to look into a new tip, I didn't realize how dull mine was
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For the 10'' 224 you need a set of 6" lazer hand auger blades and a set of 10'' lazer power auger blades.
I have the 8'' and it takes 4'' hand auger blades and I always have to special order them from SM because nobody carries them. At least the 6 inchers are readily available.
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I've got an 8" 224 as well and was wondering the same thing....
So does it take 1 set of 8" Lazer power auger blades and 1 set of 4" Lazer hand auger blades?
I've had mine 4 or 5 seasons now and I'm probably about due for blades. I love the auger and don't mind paying a bit more for the blades.
I can't believe the people at Strikemaster weren't able to help. That's disappointing.
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I've got an 8" 224 as well and was wondering the same thing....
So does it take 1 set of 8" Lazer power auger blades and 1 set of 4" Lazer hand auger blades?
I've had mine 4 or 5 seasons now and I'm probably about due for blades. I love the auger and don't mind paying a bit more for the blades.
I can't believe the people at Strikemaster weren't able to help. That's disappointing.
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Yes, youll probably have to order the 4" from SM. I dont even think they make the 4'' hand auger anymore cause the blades are impossible to find.
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Thanks very much!
So looking at the Strikemaster website, this is how I understand it...
8" 224
LPD-8PB - 8” Lazer Power - $45.95 (per set)
LD-4B - 4” Lazer - $31.95 (per set)
10" 224
LPD-10PB - 10” Lazer Power - $52.95 (per set)
LD-6B - 6” Lazer - $32.95 (per set)
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Yep, thats a good little bit of info for anyone who has a 224.
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HA! Oh yeah, I might just as well replace the "Power Point" while I'm at it. $19.95 for a set of 2! CHA-CHING!
BTW - You can purchase all of these blades (including the 4" hand Lazer blade) from site sponsors FishUSA or FISH307 and save some $.
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thanks everyone......love the 4 blade!!!!!!!
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 18, 2011, 07:32 PM »
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Ahhh. Mine cuts like butter, but this is great info. When i have some extra fun money i might get a set just to have 1.
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Good work Filetandrelease :thumbsup: :clap: ,way to help a fellow member out. I agree Bowski76 it is an interesting design using both chipper and shaver style blades on the same cutting head.
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X2 filetandrelease, I have seen a few of those posts but you definately found some new ones. Thanks. It is a very different design & can be spendy replacing blades. Looks like $70-$80 for a full set of 4 blades.
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Hey Agronomist, I kinda zipped thru the last page and a half but the suggestion of drilling a bigger hole with a smaller bit ain't that far off. I fished by a guy last year that had an 8" k-drill on a MKE drill. We were next to each other most of the day. He was very friendly and I got an eyeful of his drill. Even got to run it for a few holes.
Drilling a three-leaf clover is dirt easy with the K. If you wanted bigger with an 8 or even 6" drill it would be EZPZ. Maybe you don't need that 10 after all. Even drilling thru old holes is stupid easy.
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Hey Agronomist, I kinda zipped thru the last page and a half but the suggestion of drilling a bigger hole with a smaller bit ain't that far off. I fished by a guy last year that had an 8" k-drill on a MKE drill. We were next to each other most of the day. He was very friendly and I got an eyeful of his drill. Even got to run it for a few holes.
Drilling a three-leaf clover is dirt easy with the K. If you wanted bigger with an 8 or even 6" drill it would be EZPZ. Maybe you don't need that 10 after all. Even drilling thru old holes is stupid easy.
For the wheel house a clover leaf in a floor hole would suck trying to do
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Hey Agronomist, I kinda zipped thru the last page and a half but the suggestion of drilling a bigger hole with a smaller bit ain't that far off. I fished by a guy last year that had an 8" k-drill on a MKE drill. We were next to each other most of the day. He was very friendly and I got an eyeful of his drill. Even got to run it for a few holes.
Drilling a three-leaf clover is dirt easy with the K. If you wanted bigger with an 8 or even 6" drill it would be EZPZ. Maybe you don't need that 10 after all. Even drilling thru old holes is stupid easy.
Already brought up the clover leaf hole earlier. But it's a little hard to do once the shanty is in place and are bound by the floor of the fish house.. by the way argonomist did you get the 10 inch mora the guy private messaged you about?? If not I will still keep a eye peeled for one..
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Already brought up the clover leaf hole earlier. But it's a little hard to do once the shanty is in place and are bound by the floor of the fish house.. by the way argonomist did you get the 10 inch mora the guy private messaged you about?? If not I will still keep a eye peeled for one..
Sent an email to the guy haven't heard anything....guessing he doesn't want to ship it.
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Sent an email to the guy haven't heard anything....guessing he doesn't want to ship it.
Ok.
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I also got a response from k-drill that they won't be makinag a 10in.
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I also got a response from k-drill that they won't be makinag a 10in.
Sent you a pm about a good price electric auger that I know comes in a 10 inch might be worth a shot might not? Depends on how good the power head is?? But the price is really cheap if it's a good power head..
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So I just keep thinking about this thread and have been keeping an eye out for a 10in mora hand crank around here. What color were they? I'm guessing blue like all the other older hand cranks. Did they have the wing nut type bolt that held them together, so you got 2 separate pieces when it is removed? I've seen what I thought was a 10in but it folded in half and didn't come apart. I also came across a black one that didn't look to have any type of attachment in the center so either the handle unscrewed out of the auger bit or it was a one piece. It only looked to be an 8in anyways. Here's some pics of the ones I'm talking about
This is the one i think looks like a 10in but its a little ways from me and cant decide if i want to go take a look at it with out knowing more about it
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and the one that looks like a one piece
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I know the 10" mora I saw years ago had the old screw in attachment not the wing bolt,the 10" mora is blue.i don't believe any of the 10"moras are of newer style but vintage for sure.
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Thanks dr, I figured it would probably be blue. Do you happen to remember what handle type? The 1st one in the pics I put up has a straight handle, I see alot of the mushroom type and not to many straight ones
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My suggestion would be to try and find replacement blades for the auger, before buying the auger...
Needing blades on a used auger is pretty much inevitable..
I'm always astonished by the fact if you are selling a Mora style auger on Craig's list, it must be illegal to sell it with the blade guard. I think to even be allowed to post it, it must have had the guard lost, at a minimum of ten years...
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Thanks dr, I figured it would probably be blue. Do you happen to remember what handle type? The 1st one in the pics I put up has a straight handle, I see alot of the mushroom type and not to many straight ones
mushroom type knob handle.most of the straight handle moras that I have are the offset handle models.
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Gotcha, I did notice on a few of those straight ones they were offset. Looking around the Web on these I seen they offered that handle separately if you wanted one at one point
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Still looking for the Mora if anyone finds one.
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Still looking for the Mora if anyone finds one.
Eyes are peeled
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Just curious what fish you are catching that anyone would need a 10" hole for. I have 8" and have caught 43" pike and 8 1/2 lb large mouth with no problem.
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One really fat 40lb+ laker I'll keep trying for as long as I can get out
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Just curious what fish you are catching that anyone would need a 10" hole for. I have 8" and have caught 43" pike and 8 1/2 lb large mouth with no problem.
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It has nothing to do with fish. It has to do with a wheel house, and holes freezing down.
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Seen this a little while ago it has a older style blade guard wich could be a 10? But only problem it don't say weather it's a 10 inch or 8 or not ?? If it's a 10 inch looks pretty big in the laddies hand which made me think it was a 10 inch auger.. see link..
https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/spo/d/ice-auger/6292080331.html (https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/spo/d/ice-auger/6292080331.html)
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My suggestion would be to try and find replacement blades for the auger, before buying the auger...
Needing blades on a used auger is pretty much inevitable..
I'm always astonished by the fact if you are selling a Mora style auger on Craig's list, it must be illegal to sell it with the blade guard. I think to even be allowed to post it, it must have had the guard lost, at a minimum of ten years...
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Would the ion blades fit a ten inch hand auger?? They look the same but it is all about bolt pattern..
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Seen this a little while ago it has a older style blade guard wich could be a 10? But only problem it don't say weather it's a 10 inch or 8 or not ?? If it's a 10 inch looks pretty big in the laddies hand which made me think it was a 10 inch auger.. see link..
https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/spo/d/ice-auger/6292080331.html (https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/spo/d/ice-auger/6292080331.html)
I text it so see if I get a response
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Would the ion blades fit a ten inch hand auger?? They look the same but it is all about bolt pattern..
I'm guessing they would. It seems that the bolt Pattern is a standard size. I've put the sweeden mora blades on about every shaver auger.
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My suggestion would be to try and find replacement blades for the auger, before buying the auger...
Needing blades on a used auger is pretty much inevitable..
I'm always astonished by the fact if you are selling a Mora style auger on Craig's list, it must be illegal to sell it with the blade guard. I think to even be allowed to post it, it must have had the guard lost, at a minimum of ten years...
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I sharpen and buff my own blades. I haven't ran into a blade I can't fix even if it was sharpened wrong on both sides.
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Seen this a little while ago it has a older style blade guard wich could be a 10? But only problem it don't say weather it's a 10 inch or 8 or not ?? If it's a 10 inch looks pretty big in the laddies hand which made me think it was a 10 inch auger.. see link..
https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/spo/d/ice-auger/6292080331.html (https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/spo/d/ice-auger/6292080331.html)
She replied and said blades were an 8in.
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She replied and said blades were an 8in.
Sorry about that!! I was hopeing for you.. that it would be a 10 inch..
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Just wondering if it wouldn't be easier to use a heavy old spud, than to try turning a 10-incher....especially one less than perfectly sharp.
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That or a nills ice saw??
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That or a nills ice saw??
I've got an ice saw.......just wanting the old 10in mora hand auger.......anyone find one.
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I actually saw one at a garage sale this past week. Was thinking "wow, awesome find!" Until I saw it had no blades... decided to pass on it because as I've been finding, blades are just about impossible to find!
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I actually saw one at a garage sale this past week. Was thinking "wow, awesome find!" Until I saw it had no blades... decided to pass on it because as I've been finding, blades are just about impossible to find!
I bet the ion 10in blades would work
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Still looking for a 10in mora.......
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Some Canadian gave my buddy a homemade 10” ice auger, watched the poor guy try to drill through 3 ft of ice... after about 20 minutes and 1” later my buddy felt bad and punched him some holes. Guy the gave my buddy the 10” home made auger, bet my buddy lunch he could go 3” in a hr with the pos.. my buddy quit after 1/2 hr ... i’ll Ask my buddy if you can have it, you’ll have to pay shipping...
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Just curious what fish you are catching that anyone would need a 10" hole for. I have 8" and have caught 43" pike and 8 1/2 lb large mouth with no problem.
A 10 inch auger sometimes is not enough here in Wyoming. Our largest official lake trout is over 50 pounds. I cut two ten inch holes over lapped some and then sput out the points on both sides of the hole (s). On one end I am going to start cutting a slide to slide the fish out of the water. It's not so much pulling a 10 inch diameter trout out of a 10 inch hole as it is to get the fish to stick his head up through the hole correctly to pull him out with your hand. With no gaffs allowed, one needs all the help they can get.
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A 10 inch auger sometimes is not enough here in Wyoming. Our largest official lake trout is over 50 pounds. I cut two ten inch holes over lapped some and then sput out the points on both sides of the hole (s). On one end I am going to start cutting a slide to slide the fish out of the water. It's not so much pulling a 10 inch diameter trout out of a 10 inch hole as it is to get the fish to stick his head up through the hole correctly to pull him out with your hand. With no gaffs allowed, one needs all the help they can get.
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Amen.
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A 10 inch auger sometimes is not enough here in Wyoming. Our largest official lake trout is over 50 pounds. I cut two ten inch holes over lapped some and then sput out the points on both sides of the hole (s). On one end I am going to start cutting a slide to slide the fish out of the water. It's not so much pulling a 10 inch diameter trout out of a 10 inch hole as it is to get the fish to stick his head up through the hole correctly to pull him out with your hand. With no gaffs allowed, one needs all the help they can get.
We get big fish out here to.. but what about a mini spearing hole?? Two 5 inch holes in the corner of a square across from each other.. then connect with a ice saw like a fishes ice saw or even a nils ice saw?? Then pop the block out.. That would probably be the best way to do it?? Just like in a ice house you can buy the square hole covers that are meant for spearing like I was saying use some thing like that if ice in's are a problem.. sleep then open then with a spud in morning?? It's just a though??
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Some Canadian gave my buddy a homemade 10” ice auger, watched the poor guy try to drill through 3 ft of ice... after about 20 minutes and 1” later my buddy felt bad and punched him some holes. Guy the gave my buddy the 10” home made auger, bet my buddy lunch he could go 3” in a hr with the pos.. my buddy quit after 1/2 hr ... i’ll Ask my buddy if you can have it, you’ll have to pay shipping...
If it is a home made POS that doesn't work......why would I want it......
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Ok thanks to Ronco sending me a PM....I'm super close to getting a 10in mora....for around $100 shipped...I think it's done just waiting for a reply on sending the money.
Hope it works out. Be kinda cool cutting holes with that big SOB.
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sweet.i knew they were still out there.now hope you don't have to find blades probably just as rare as my 4" mora blades.
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sweet.i knew they were still out there.now hope you don't have to find blades probably just as rare as my 4" mora blades.
I can sharpen my own blades with a mora. Ion 10in my fit it too......
Sent the money hope he sends it
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Awesome, I think that's the first one of those I've seen..
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Awesome, I think that's the first one of those I've seen..
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Think when I get it I’m gonna go to a machine shop and get and get a good adaptor made for it
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Congrats on finding one, I hope it works out and its in your hands in no time. You know the guy here posted that one again and I texted him with no answer. Weird. I haven't tried my new adapter out yet but will soon. So the ion 10in blades fit it? Good to know
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Congrats on finding one, I hope it works out and its in your hands in no time. You know the guy here posted that one again and I texted him with no answer. Weird. I haven't tried my new adapter out yet but will soon. So the ion 10in blades fit it? Good to know
I don't know if the ion ones do or not....just a guess they would. Weird the dude post that 10in then never responds.
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Ya for sure and 2 times at that
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Nothing scientific....but thinking the polar fire 10in blades would fit it by the looks....bought a set off eBay for $23....
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A ten inch hand auger through 12 inches or more of ice sounds like torture to me, hell even through 6 inches. I only cut 10 inch holes when I use my Jiffy gas auger. If I have to turn a hand auger more than ten twists I break out the Clam 6 inch driver drill adapter plate rig. I don't even use my Mora 7 inch hand auger any more either. Way back in the early eighties I used a Sweedish made spoon blade hand auger. For a good while in my area the spoon blade auger is all there was available if you could actually find one. I found one up in Connecticut back in 84 or so, which is nowhere near local for me. Having fun twisting that 10 incher, that sounds to much like work, not fishing. ;D :tipup: :tipup: ;D
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A ten inch hand auger through 12 inches or more of ice sounds like torture to me, hell even through 6 inches. I only cut 10 inch holes when I use my Jiffy gas auger. If I have to turn a hand auger more than ten twists I break out the Clam 6 inch driver drill adapter plate rig. I don't even use my Mora 7 inch hand auger any more either. Way back in the early eighties I used a Sweedish made spoon blade hand auger. For a good while in my area the spoon blade auger is all there was available if you could actually find one. I found one up in Connecticut back in 84 or so, which is nowhere near local for me. Having fun twisting that 10 incher, that sounds to much like work, not fishing. ;D :tipup: :tipup: ;D
I think you should start the post from the beginning. I was in search of a ten in hand auger to put on my clam plate to cut holes in my wheel house. Not hand cranking.
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Agronomist_at_IA, Good luck with it and I hope it works out for you.
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Agronomist_at_IA, Good luck with it and I hope it works out for you.
He said he shipped it so hopefully it comes in good shape.
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Google Arksen 10" ice augers bit....Cant beat that........
I have this auger and it is awesome! Super light and cuts great. The blades are a little soft, it seems as they chip easy so buy a couple sets. I have it attached to a Tanaka gas powered drill and it works great. I have no doubt that a Milwaukee Fuel 1200 will turn it just fine. Just make sure that you get an Icemaster Adapter. They are strong and the strap has saved my auger from going down the hole more than once.
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He said he shipped it so hopefully it comes in good shape.
Nice good to hear!!
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I Had a 10 inch Mora years ago. Still have a set of blades. They are like my other Mora blades, beveled on both sides. The screw holes are 2 3/4 inches apart,1 1/8 inch from the blade edge. Good luck on the project.
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sooner or later I will find 1 at a garage sale.ive got 4" 5,6,7,8,inch moras just need a 10 and I will have every size bit made.ive got 5" 7, 8, 9 and 10 inch jiffy power auger bits.and 5" and 8" lazers.multiples of some.cant pass up augers at garage sales.
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Lol found a set of new 10in mora blade on Amazon....only one left and bought it....yeah!
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Looks like they must have a few more.
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She came....sharpening the blades....lots of nicks....gonna take some time. Also moded the stem to fit the clam plate and clam plate extention.
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I Had a 10 inch Mora years ago. Still have a set of blades. They are like my other Mora blades, beveled on both sides. The screw holes are 2 3/4 inches apart,1 1/8 inch from the blade edge. Good luck on the project.
Hay argonomist funny the guy in quote brought what he said up.. cause I measured those jiffy blades I bought.. they measure 2.75 inch at centers of screw holes and their chipper blades like the k drill has .. wonder if they would work?? As blades for a 10 inch mora??
Any how glad you finally got that 10 inch mora..
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Hay argonomist funny the guy in quote brought what he said up.. cause I measured those jiffy blades I bought.. they measure 2.75 inch at centers of screw holes and their chipper blades like the k drill has .. wonder if they would work?? As blades for a 10 inch mora??
Any how glad you finally got that 10 inch mora..
No jiffy chipper blades and shavers are different style of cutting.
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A little work and TLC on those blades and maybe some work and paint on the flight, and it'll be like new!!! :thumbsup: :clap: :flex: ;)2 :icefish:
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A little work and TLC on those blades and maybe some work and paint on the flight, and it'll be like new!!! :thumbsup: :clap: :flex: ;)2 :icefish:
Yep......Got the paint to touch it up.
Now.....I just need to find a blade cover.....gonna try a 10in cold snap.
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that size mora blade cover is probably about the size of a chevy s10 hub cap.lol jk
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Well figured out a few things today.....
The blades I touched up wouldn't bite into the ice....only skip around....wth....I'm going to send them to fish 307 to get sharpened. I've got an HT polar Fire set of blades and a mora 10in set of blades coming that are new. So once they come we will see if it will bite into the ice.
The next thing I learned....the aluminum tube Adaptor I made wasn't going to hold up...so I made one out of steel pipe....It should stand the test no problem.
I found blue rustolem paint that matched the mora color perfect and touched up the auger.....it's looking sweet.
Last thing I need is a 10in blade cover.......Hope the cold snap works....So if you would guys please keep a lookout for a 10in mora cover.
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So if you would guys please keep a lookout for a 10in mora cover.
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I was thinking about that but there is an issue....on the ten inch lighting comes off both blades....Unlike the 8in and under.
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I'm thinking a pail like a 3-6gallon bucket.....or maybe a 5gallon cut down or something......I think a 5gallon pail is about 11in across.
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Touched the auger flighting up....Got the steel adaptor shaft made........just debating if I should shaker can it blue to match the auger or buff it with the wheel buffer to a chrome polish.
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hey Agro, just saw 3 brand new in package 10 in. mora blades at a tackle shop here yesterday. no 10 in. cover tho. so they are out there. if interested, pm me. wire ( think i saw old price tag on back. like 19.95, but , have bad case of CRS so not sure, but i,ll bet he,ll deal to get rid of them) P.P.S. anyone else looking for them, let me know. wire
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hey Agro, just saw 3 brand new in package 10 in. mora blades at a tackle shop here yesterday. no 10 in. cover tho. so they are out there. if interested, pm me. wire ( think i saw old price tag on back. like 19.95, but , have bad case of CRS so not sure, but i,ll bet he,ll deal to get rid of them) P.P.S. anyone else looking for them, let me know. wire
I might take you up on it. I’ll have to see.
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Well Put the HT polar blades on that came.....everything looked good. Went to the pond to cut a hole and it wouldnt bite in....spun around and caught my shoe and cut through my leather shoe and cut my foot. Not sure why it wont bite in. Pitch looks fine. Guess I’ll try the new set of mora blades I got coming on it.
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spun around and caught my shoe and cut through my leather shoe and cut my foot.
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Happens to some of the best I'm told...
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Those HT blades might work wonders with some shims..
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I'm thinking /hoping those new oem blades work for you.blade angle might be off on those ht blades.i want to see a vid of you hand cranking that 10" mora one of these days.lol.i know I could and would wearing my best lumberjack style flannel .
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Wow, that stinks man. :P. Sorry about the foot and shoe. I know how long you’ve been trying to put this thing together.
Glad you weren’t cut worse. Sorry about your misfortune. :P
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Wow, that stinks man. :P. Sorry about the foot and shoe. I know how long you’ve been trying to put this thing together.
Glad you weren’t cut worse. Sorry about your misfortune. :P
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Well....they were HT polar Fire blades.....Maybe when the 10in mora blades show up they will work. It wouldn't bite into the ice so I'm thinking the pitch might be slightly different on them then the mora blades......Guess I'll find out.
Got the entire setup looking like new......I'm just wishing it would cut so I can see if the 1200in/lb Milwaukee will turn it.
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With all the people on this site you would think we could get a blade compatibility chart. For what it is worth my Mora 6,7,and 10 blades all have a bevel on both sides. The blades are all .130 thick and the bevel is .200 wide. My older hand auger blades before Mora, Before Lazer, are beveled one side only. The bevel is .275 and they are .115 thick. The older 7 and 8 inch non Moras have screw spacing of 1.640 with 1.10 inches from the end on both. You should be able to use both sizes on the same auger. My 6 and 7 inch Lazers are different in size and not interchange. Augers were manufactured under different names but most of the old single bevel blades in the same size were interchangeable.
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Well after doing some research.......I got a few things I'm going to try before the mora blades show up.
With the 10 polar Fire blades....they used bolts with nuts......they don't have threads in the blade holes. So I'm not sure if the bolt/nut were hitting the ice causing the blades to not grab. So I flipped them over, and think that might fix it.
Also I was reading about shims using an aluminum can to make them.......checked and the blades were tight on the inside to the metal, but I could see a sliver of light between the blade/mount by the outside bolt. So I tighten them down really tight....so maybe that will fix it.....
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Have you looked at the bottom for how far out the nuts from the bolts that hold them on stick out? Might be a clearance issue where they can’t bite in well because it wants to ride up on those nuts instead of being pulled down at the angle of the blade! Got the idea because with the 6” mora I’ve got, Ice builds up in the same location, and it’ll do the same exact thing, just doesn’t want to bite in very well. Chip the ice off and it’s good to go!
Edit* Oops! Misread what you posted. I’d definitely give that a try!
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Well after I flipped the bolts, she dug in no problem and cut.
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I don't think these blades are going to work though....they are more aggressive then the Mora shaver style blades, and look like they take a lot bigger bite. When I drilled the holes, the Milwaukee 1200in/lb drill would cut out and stop then would go again when I'd hit the trigger. Thinking the less aggressive mora blades might fix that problem. Otherwise I might need to move to a gearbox on the clam plate.
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Glad you have it cutting and hopefully no more accidents. Maybe if you put a spacer on the rear of the blade, maybe it won't take such a big bite. I put a spacer made out a plastic milk jug on the front under the blade on my 6" jiffy hand auger for a bigger bite, that's what I'm running on my m18 fuel. Others have said about making a spacer out of a soda can. Good luck
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Glad you have it cutting and hopefully no more accidents. Maybe if you put a spacer on the rear of the blade, maybe it won't take such a big bite. I put a spacer made out a plastic milk jug on the front under the blade on my 6" jiffy hand auger for a bigger bite, that's what I'm running on my m18 fuel. Others have said about making a spacer out of a soda can. Good luck
Hey thanks for the heads up on it man.....once I got it painted up and cleaned everything it looks like new. Worth the investment. I got a 6in lazer 8in nils, and a 10in mora now....think I'm good on augers....lol
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Glad it worked out for you.
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Glad it worked out for you.
Got about $130 into it after all said and done.......so it was a lot cheaper to try this route the the $360 nils 10in which is like a unicorn.....that wouldn't be so bad but it's another $198 for a spare cutting head......didn't feel like putting $560 into a 10in hand auger I'll use a few times a year.
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Well after I flipped the bolts, she dug in no problem and cut.
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I don't think these blades are going to work though....they are more aggressive then the Mora shaver style blades, and look like they take a lot bigger bite. When I drilled the holes, the Milwaukee 1200in/lb drill would cut out and stop then would go again when I'd hit the trigger. Thinking the less aggressive mora blades might fix that problem. Otherwise I might need to move to a gearbox on the clam plate.
What amp hour battery are you running?
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What amp hour battery are you running?
I had the 9ah on it. It started out good then has I got deeper it would cut out. I'm thinking the normal mora blades would work on it....I'll find out when the set shows up. Also the pipe adaptor I made was a bit loose and sloppy....it might have cause the auger to shift and bind in the hole. I might get an adaptor custom made that would be tight.
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Either set, whether the HT or the Mora, could use shims on one side of the screws, or the other, depending on if you want more, or less bite, totally custom. Each blade needs the same exact thickness of shim obviously...
Mora blades used to come with two pieces of galvanized for shim stock, it was much thicker than a beer can fwiw..
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Either set, whether the HT or the Mora, could use shims on one side of the screws, or the other, depending on if you want more, or less bite, totally custom. Each blade needs the same exact thickness of shim obviously...
Mora blades used to come with two pieces of galvanized for shim stock, it was much thicker than a beer can fwiw..
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Cool...clam gear boxes are all on recall/pulled for year aren’t they
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Cool...clam gear boxes are all on recall/pulled for year aren’t they
I'm not sure, might still be a chance?
That kicker gear set made to fit the plate might be the best option.. They also look to be made of common available parts...
My drill ran a 6" fine, but it cut even smoother and I can only describe as nicer, with the gear box...
So you might not "need" one, I can can say I prefer drilling with the gears, regardless of auger size. Just way more steady and consistent...
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Sweet called strikemaster service center and the lady found a "very" old 10in mora blade cover.......Sweet.
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Sweet called strikemaster service center and the lady found a "very" old 10in mora blade cover.......Sweet.
That belongs in a museum!
Last one in the galaxy...
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Cool...clam gear boxes are all on recall/pulled for year aren’t they
Yup there bought by another entity according to montecatgeek and are not for sale this year.. monte said they had a hole pallet but we're sold to some one else already.. for more info you would have to talk to Montecatgeek that the guys screen name on here I think it's was another screw up by clam but I wont coment aboUT that.. lol's
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Yup there bought by another entity according to montecatgeek and are not for sale this year.. monte said they had a hole pallet but we're sold to some one else already.. for more info you would have to talk to Montecatgeek that the guys screen name on here I think it's was another screw up by clam but I wont coment aboUT that.. lol's
Yeah.....I called clam to see if they had a gear box for a gen 2 plate or if I could get a new plate and gear box......claimed they didn't make any for sale this year.......something is a bit off.
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Yup there bought by another entity according to montecatgeek
That kinda sucks, so there goes any support for my current gearbox, hope she's built right...
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That kinda sucks, so there goes any support for my current gearbox, hope she's built right...
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Not that you don't got support.. its some one bought a hole pallet load of them to sell probably in europe.. were clam does not sell yet?? Or some thing along them line like Russia like polar bird etc etc.. any how some one must be making money on this deal?? But ya they probably will have some next year.. for sure..
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Not that you don't got support.. its some one bought a hole pallet load of them to sell probably in europe..
Oh! Lol There were sold out, not bought out by another entity...
I misunderstood lol...
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So to fix the slop and try to prevent binding I got some Allen head bolts and widened one side so the Allen head can go in and squeeze the pipes and auger tight to take any slop out. It worked extremely well. I posted some pics so you can visual see what I did.
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I took it out and tested the auger again....the Milwaukee 1200in drilled one hole in about 18-20in of ice no problem. On the second hole it shut down, and cut the hole when I started it back up. Taking the slop out helped a lot, however The aggressive HT polar Fire shaver/chipper blade hybrid still works the drill hard. Hopefully, the Mora blades come before a government shut down. It might be a long shot, but I hope they cut easier and smoother then these shaver/chipper blades. Which It should....because the shaver/chipper hybrid blade leaves 5 strips of ice that are not cut and the blade just hits the 5 chunks/strips and bust them off. (I would think that takes a lot of tourque) If it's still a bit much, I think I'll have to wait until next season to get a clam plate gear box....then it should turn this 10in no problem.
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Was impressed ordered the cover at noon yesterday and it showed up today already. Wow I wish they made the new shaver covers this strong and tuff. I peeled the bar code sticker off and it just turned to powder....LOL.
pretty happy with the way it's gone so Far....Have all original parts for the auger and it looks like new after the touch up......
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Original blades have less of a pitch than what you have one....explains the drill stalling. I bought a 8" cheapo knockoff for my Ion and the blade angles were crazy aggressive...could barely even get through one hole. Even an 8" Lazer rips...for a 10" the Mora blades sound best for any electric drill.
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Original blades have less of a pitch than what you have on
Pitch can be changed with shims though...
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So the new old stock 10" mora blades came. I put them on the auger, and headed down to the pond to try it.....didn't have a lot of hope. Figured it was worth a try.
Holy mother of god....once the mora blades were on the Milwaukee 1200 the setup ripped through the ice for 5 holes and was throwing shavings and water everywhere. Drill didn't stop or anything. Didn't seemed to be over worked either. It dug in and didn't walk or wonder......All I can say is wow....no gear box is needed now. Can't wait for my trip with the wheel house now.
So the verdict is Yes a Milwaukee 1200in/lb can turn a 10in auger without a gear box.
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Sounds like you got a winner!
FWIW...
I think this is a 9" that could be a 10"? For sale here...
Looks like a more modern one?
https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/spo/d/2-strikemaster-ice-auger/6466024087.html
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Looks to new....I think it's an 8in
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From Strikemaster.......
This size blade has been discontinued since 1981. So at best my auger is 37yrs old......if it could only talk to tell its stories....
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From Strikemaster.......
This size blade has been discontinued since 1981. So at best my auger is 37yrs old......if it could only talk to tell its stories....
that's what my guess was too.about the same time the 4"mora hand auger blades were discontinued.its hard to find those too.
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that's what my guess was too.about the same time the 4"mora hand auger blades were discontinued.its hard to find those too.
What's funny is how companies claim blades can't be resharpened today.......yet on these old packages it shows/tells a guy how to touch them up...............just kinda sad how much money and profits have changed things from back then.........,
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What's funny is how companies claim blades can't be resharpened today.......yet on these old packages it shows/tells a guy how to touch them up...............just kinda sad how much money and profits have changed things from back then.........,
I hit sand with my 6" Ion last weekend...threw a huge burr, and dinged an edge.
Used a ran them over a coarse and then fine stone and made sure I pressed the blades down flat on the angles...they cut like new now, dings and all. Makes me laugh when they recommend replacements.
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I hit sand with my 6" Ion last weekend...threw a huge burr, and dinged an edge.
Used a ran them over a coarse and then fine stone and made sure I pressed the blades down flat on the angles...they cut like new now, dings and all. Makes me laugh when they recommend replacements.
Yeah.....I'm just suprised nobody is selling a jig to sharpen them. Think it would be pretty easy.
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Yeah.....I called clam to see if they had a gear box for a gen 2 plate or if I could get a new plate and gear box......claimed they didn't make any for sale this year.......something is a bit off.
Regardless what everyone says about availability just think about it. The Milwaukee drill delivers 1200 InLbs of torque. Thats 100 FootPounds of torque.
The 8" Lazer bits will need that + when they break through. After 10 or 50 or 200 holes the $70 China gearbox will fail, when your on the trip of a lifetime.
A $70 product has Profit for the Seller, profit for Clam, and profit for the company that made it along with getting it from there to here. Probably $10-$15 actual manufacturing cost.
I'm thinking someone at Clam has realized the folly of the, first plastic gears then steel (probably made from dredged up sunken trash). Clam's products
have been on the upswing the last 2 years and hopefully someone there with a brain has realized this product will not make our customers happy a few years from now.
Of Course, as always, My Opinion Only
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Regardless what everyone says about availability just think about it. The Milwaukee drill delivers 1200 InLbs of torque. Thats 100 FootPounds of torque.
The 8" Lazer bits will need that + when they break through. After 10 or 50 or 200 holes the $70 China gearbox will fail, when your on the trip of a lifetime.
A $70 product has Profit for the Seller, profit for Clam, and profit for the company that made it along with getting it from there to here. Probably $10-$15 actual manufacturing cost.
I'm thinking someone at Clam has realized the folly of the, first plastic gears then steel (probably made from dredged up sunken trash). Clam's products
have been on the upswing the last 2 years and hopefully someone there with a brain has realized this product will not make our customers happy a few years from now.
Of Course, as always, My Opinion Only
I think your not far off. I'm not gonna need the gear box now though. After I got the actual 10in mora blades on that were less aggressive, I was able to drill 5 holes back to back in about 2ft of ice without any hang ups or stopping....If things work out I should have a few sets of blades and be ok.
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Well,
I'd like to show my appreciation to all of you guys for putting in a team effort in helping me find and aquire all the stuff for this 10in mora setup. While I more than likely won't ever run into or meet most of you I believe I owe you a big thank you.
Here are some shout outs to....
Wirenut45-he found and deliver two new vintage 10in Mora Blades.
Ronco-he set me up with the seller of the auger.
Thanks again,
Agro.
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Your welcome, glad it worked out for you. I just looked today, the same guy still has it up on CL. I don't know maybe he has 2 of them. He updated it yesterday;
https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/spo/d/vintage-10-mora-strikemaster/6449076088.html
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well I found the mythical mora 10" beast auger today at a garage sale.offset foldable handle too.probably needs some blades and a blade cover but for 5 bucks i couldnt pass it up! anybody have or leads to blades or a cover let me know,imgur and post image wont let me post pics for some reason from my laptop but phone worked.
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That's an interesting handle setup. Did they come like that back then or is it a DIY job?
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well I found the mythical mora 10" beast auger today at a garage sale.offset foldable handle too.probably needs some blades and a blade cover but for 5 bucks i couldnt pass it up! anybody have or leads to blades or a cover let me know,imgur and post image wont let me post pics for some reason from my laptop but phone worked.
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I found one on Craigslist not too long ago and posted it on here for whomever was looking for one. Looks like you could just sharpen those blades. They don't look too bad in the picture.
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DR. nice find . those blades look fair in pic. may be able to send them to sponser "FISH307" to sharpen. also, they have a swap thingy with blades, so, they MAY have some used 10 in. laying around. can.,t hurt to ask. wire
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Here is the one I found. It doesn't have the offset handle though.
https://westslope.craigslist.org/spo/d/ice-auger/6548666979.html
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That's an interesting handle setup. Did they come like that back then or is it a DIY job?
its factory.i have a few offset folding handle moras like this but seems to be no rhyme or reason what years or sizes these handles came on which augers.think you could by these folding offsets handles from strikemaster back in the day.
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I found one on Craigslist not too long ago and posted it on here for whomever was looking for one. Looks like you could just sharpen those blades. They don't look too bad in the picture.
going to try that's for sure!few knicks but they feel sharp except for some rusty spots.
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Use a 2 1/2 gallon bucket with a bungee cord to cover the blades
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Use a 2 1/2 gallon bucket with a bungee cord to cover the blades
that would work but im ocd about my gear being original or oem.lol.plus i like the thrill of the chase/ search for hard to find items.
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10" Mora hand auger??? Yeah, no thanks, I value what shoulders I have left and want to avoid having a heart attack as long as possible. ;-)
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I bought it for the 5 dollar price tag and because its pretty rare to be a 10" hand auger.i now have every size mora hand augers ever made. 4" thru 10".ill probably never use it for fishing but I will do it justice and crank a few holes just to see how hard it really is.offset handle might make it easier.lol
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ck with a local saw/knife sharpening shop i have my mora's done locally last time was 7 bucks each worked like new
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I have used our sponsor https://www.fish307.com/auger-blade-exchange/ for years and the blade exchange works very fine. You will never receive a rusted, chipped or defective blade from them. If the blades they receive from other fishermen do not meet their standards they will not accept them for exchange. So in return, the blades you receive from them willl be equal or better then the blades you sent in.
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I'm betting that exchange program does not have a set of mora 10" hand auger blades..they are pretty rare these days and ive been searching the web and not a single set has come up for sale so far this month.good news tho I got these pretty sharp.the edges were in good shape and pretty sharp already.i took my strop/polish compound from my wood carving tools and polished them up more than anything due to some rust.
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that would work but im ocd about my gear being original or oem.lol.plus i like the thrill of the chase/ search for hard to find items.
Good luck....I called both places for strikemaster. They had one 10in cover left that they said was older then old. I bought it. I would suggest getting a cover 3D printed for it.
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Maybe I missed it in this thread, but I'm curious. Has anyone tried a LPD-10 Strikemaster on a drill?
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I don’t think anyone has tried it. I doubt it would work without a gear box. With this 10in mora hand auger, I put a pair of HT polar fire blades that were a flat blade shaver/chipper hybrid blades. The blades were just a touch more aggressive then the flat blade 10in mora shavers. The Milwaukee 1200 in lb would turn it with those blades on it, but it worked the drill hard and after about three holes in 24in of ice the drill would shut down. I later found a new old stock set of 10in flat blade mora blades and put them on the auger. With that setup I drilled 4-5 holes with the 1200in/lb Milwaukee drill and it worked the drill, but it did not shut down.
I have since looked at the Ion 10in auger and its blades. Those blades look to be a shaver/chipper hybrid but not has aggressive they are more like the flat blade mora.
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Not sure why you would want to use a 10 inch on a drill. This would really put the drill through a severe work out.
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Not sure why you would want to use a 10 inch on a drill. This would really put the drill through a severe work out.
If its to much the safety shutdown will turn the brushless drill off before it damages it. Works good for cutting holes in the wheel house. If clam had the gearbox yet it would be a cinch.
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Not sure why you would want to use a 10 inch on a drill. This would really put the drill through a severe work out.
My Super Hawg doesn’t even blink.
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We need a photo of the Hawg.
Most people don't know that it exists.
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We need a photo of the Hawg.
Most people don't know that it exists.
I'm sure a mud mixer would turn it two. With the flat blades it turns pretty easy.