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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Equipment => Ice Augers => Topic started by: maineultraclassic on Nov 27, 2010, 12:51 PM
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I just picked up a Lazer Mag auger, and it's missing a spring or linkage between the throttle cable and the carb. It has the Tecumseh engine, and is about 5 years old.
Does anyone have any pictures of the linkage between the cable and the carb?
Could anyone take their fuel tank off and take a picture for me?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Steve
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Found some info on the Strikemaster website, looks like it's the "governor spring" that I'm missing.
Does anyone know if that's included in the carb rebuild kit?
I'm going to order a new fuel tank kit, and the carb rebuild kit(if that spring is included)........$50 for the 2 parts to get it running great again isn't bad.
Steve
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Wait till that plastic gear housing shears off and your blade sinks out of sight......spring will be the least of your worries........... ;)
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spring would be cheaper but everyone knows there is no ice in the tropics!
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I know the auto parts stores have the springs, but getting the right one would be the challenge.
I would like to see a picture, I know someone has to have this auger sitting around.
Steve
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I had the same problem last year. I fixed it with a spring of an old weedwacker. It was easy and worked like a champ.
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I had my 2000 apart yesterday cleaning the carb. That spring is about a in. long and maybe 1/4 in round. Very fine wire. I would think any small engine repair shop would be able to help. Maybe this will help/. Sprig is just above fuel line and diafram cover.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/pro390/openwater2010311.jpg)
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Thanks for the pic.............that's the little spring I need.
I emailed Strikemaster to see if they could help me out, waiting for their response.
Steve
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I put the new tank and new governor spring on today. Filled the tank and it fired up.
Runs a little rough at idle then dies. Revs up good, but idle is not smooth like it should be.
Any ideas?
Steve
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Have you tried adjusting the jets on the carb?
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Without knowing how to adjust them..............no, haven't touched them.
Anyone local know how to adjust them?
Steve
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Maybe the idle needs to set a little higher. i may be wrong but that probably only has one mixture screw. Strikemaster should be able to tell you how many turns out to set it.
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I think it only has a idle adjust. Did you remove the carb and take the diaframs and needle out. Clean and reinstall. Be careful use some carb clean.
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Cant give advice. I had nothing but bad luck with mine, Traded for a eskimo. Almost as bad! :(
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i took my carb off and cleaned it and mine is doing the same thing. dies when i give it gas and not enough power. i think i have to adjust the 1 screw
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Have no trouble with my Jiffy! ;D
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jiffy is the way to go . very reliable. air screw goes all the way in then one in a qaurter out. then trie it . then set idle. thats after cleaning. jet could be tarnished.
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This guy is just looking for help, please don't turn his thread into a auger debate.
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I'm an auto tech and do work on small engine's for friend's and live in limerick if that not to far away you can PM me and we can talk about seeing what l can do for you.
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This guy is just looking for help, please don't turn his thread into a auger debate.
I am surprised you have not moved this thread to the proper place ;D
but on a serious note check out the ice auger fourm lots of post on this issue
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go direct with strikemaster. they were a lot of help to me last year when my handle broke. because it was under warranty, they shipped me out a new handle for free. hopefully strikemaster gets back ot you soon.
are you back up and running?
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Steve is a buddy of mine he will chime in im sure...he got it running... idles a little rough though he says....
We can't wait to get some safe ice down here!
Dennis
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Was the plug changed ??
Get some Sea Foam and add some to your gas...
Let it idle for awhile to give it time to work through..
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Yup, new plug, new fuel line, new fuel tank with cap, new governor spring.
Sprayed some carb cleaner in the carb, but might do it again and let it set.
I'm going to mix some fresh gas with some fresh 2-cycle oil, for the recommended 25:1 ratio. I think the stuff I put in is at 40:1 since it's what I use in my chain saw as well.
It revs up fine, but as soon as I let off the throttle it idles rough then dies. But it starts right up again when I pull the recoil, but idles rough and dies.
Steve
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hope you got the gas cap vent open
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LOL............yes, of course.
Steve
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Without knowing how to adjust them..............no, haven't touched them.
Anyone local know how to adjust them?
Steve
PM JMAYO on this site he does small engine repair and he is southern Maine
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Was the plug changed ??
Get some Sea Foam and add some to your gas...
Let it idle for awhile to give it time to work through..
told ya steve...SEA FOAM!
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I have had my lazer mag for 2 years now. The first year it ran just how yours is running. Then last year there was a lot of talk about running synthetic oil with a ratio of 100 to 1. I didn't dare do that but I did run synthetic with a 50 to 1 ratio and now it starts easier and runs a lot better and it will idle now while I go from hole to hole where it would stall before. I have no idea what the long term effects will be but it runs good now.
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I would think at 100:1 or even 50:1 it's going to smoke a lot, more oil in the fuel means more burning off.
I'll add some Sea Foam to the tank and see if that helps, already have it in the garage so that's an easy addition.
Steve
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I thought I was running a more lean mix with a 50 to 1 then the recommended 25 to 1.
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50:1 Is a leaner oil mixture.
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sounds like the idle mixture port is dirty.
when you clean the carb there should be a screw with a spring on it. turn that screw in until it seats. count the number of turns to make it seat. usually its one to one and a half turns. then remove it and spray carb cleaner in the hole. let dry and reinstall the screw to the proper turns out.
start the engine and get it warm. while warm turn the screw in about a half turn and out about the same until the motor idles smooth.
sounds like everything else is ok. good luck.
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Thanks gearfreak, I'll give that a try.
Steve
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No adjustments except Idle on that carb. Remove carb, dissasemble top and bottom diaframs one at a time. Clean with carb cleaner. Remove the needle and clean it and seat. Be carefill with needle as it is small. Two things to check befor doing this. Make sure the foam at the front of the carb is not soaked with gas and dirt. Also remove the muffler and see if it has a build up of oil and sticky residue. Mine was like that once. I put it in the wood stove and burned it out.
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I would think at 100:1 or even 50:1 it's going to smoke a lot, more oil in the fuel means more burning off.
I'll add some Sea Foam to the tank and see if that helps, already have it in the garage so that's an easy addition.
Steve
dude 100:1 means (ratio of 100 gallons of gas to 1 gallon of oil) so less oil per gallon versus a 30:1 which would be 5 gallons of oil in 100gallons of gas
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OK..........wasn't sure if it was Oil/Gas or Gas/Oil.
So at 40:1, I should be all set either way.
Steve
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Is it possible to buy a new carb for this motor?
I took out the idle screw, cleaned it up, put it back in and it runs the same if not worse now. It won't idle without the choke on a bit, and when you put the chock in the run position and rev it up and pulsates now.
I sent Strikemaster an email asking about a new carb, waiting to hear back from them.
Steve
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New carb was $57 last time I got one, fixed it long enough to sell it. I also agree on the 80:1 mix been running it for year in all my small 2 stroke motors, 1 mix for everything and no problems.
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On the tank it says to run a 24:1 ratio, the fuel I'm using is a 40:1 ratio. I might add some gas to it to make it closer to the 80:1 ratio and try that after I get it running right. It does smoke like crazy right now too...........keeps the mosquitoes away LOL
Steve
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It's funny that people say go with Jiffy................. same motors on Jiffy or Strikemasters.
Bought a bottle of Strikemaster 2-cycle oil and mixed it with fresh 91 octane......smokes a lot less now.
Yes, only 1 screw to adjust on this carb.
Took it completely apart today again, blew out all the ports, made sure everything was clean, put it all back together. Found a small crack on the plastic fuel inlet, so I have some glue on it to seal it up.
Going to double check the spark plug gap tomorrow.
Hopefully after all this, it will run better then it has been.
Steve