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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Ice Fishing Transportation => Topic started by: ADK11 on Jan 03, 2015, 06:40 PM
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Hey Guys,
I am looking into buying an ATV for ice fishing use, as well as year round use(In upstate New York).
The advice I need is:
-I've seen in many comments on other threads that people are using 400's, is that due to weight?
-Should I be looking into tire size to get me through the snow?
-What should be the recommended engine size be?
-Should I look into an ATV that can have tracks put on?
-What are the conditions that cause you to leave the quad behind, instead of taking it on the lake. Does it fare well in some slush?
We will have 2 adults fishing most of the time. Most likely towing a small sled behind with our tent/gear.
-Thank you! It's a lot better hearing advice from fellow fisherman than a dealership!
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I use a Grizzly 660 its perfect buy yourself a set of tire chains for the rear wheels. Most important make sure what ever you buy its 4x4. That pulls everything I bring out and then some good luck ! tight lines
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Thank you for the info, 4x4 is for sure a must! Ill check into some yamahas, i know theres a few places near me that sell grizzlies.
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I use a Grizzly 660 its perfect buy yourself a set of tire chains for the rear wheels. Most important make sure what ever you buy its 4x4. That pulls everything I bring out and then some good luck ! tight lines
I have a grizzly also and don't run chain never had an issue . I tow my 6x8 permy w it and have a 2up seat on the back
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Its looking like I should put the grizzly on the top of the list!
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I have a canam 500............tow my hard shack all over Schroon Lake with no issues........love the EFI also starts right up in the cold...........i highly recommend a good battery so your not stranded though.......battery tender works nicely.
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i run an arctic cat 550 with efi..battery tender is almost a must..and a set of chains should help ya...thats just my .02 though
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Thank you guys! I'm heading to a dealership Monday to check some of these options out :)
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I run a can am 1000 outlander xt with snow plow would not trade other for maybe side by side.
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Cant believe nobody has said Honda. My rancher 350 is bulletproof. It has been submerged to the racks in water and still runs like a champ. I have 25" maxxis bighorn 2.0 tires and it does amazing in snow. Riding ditches the other day my friends grizzly was constantly getting stuck because it was too heavy and sunk into the drifts while mine stayed on top for the most part. That being said, nothing beats a canam. They are incredible but cost $$$. Any atv with tracks is unbeatable also.
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ADK11,
I bought a Suzuki Vinson 500 manual shift back in '05...it was a brand new 2006 model that I ordered in and waited for. The reason why I bought what I bought is because I did some extensive research on a number of models and decided that for what I do...that was my best choice. I USE my wheeler to plant food plots, plow snow, skid logs, pull a lawn sweeper/cart, drag a deer, etc., etc. ALL at low speeds and sometimes, rpms. It's water cooled plus, I have the option of 5 forward speeds in both high and low range, along with reverse, and park. I like the ability of choosing WHICH gear I want to work in rather than the machine constantly shifting up or down to meet the need's demand. I also have a solid rear axle, which does not make for smooth trail riding, BUT is preferable if you're going to do work with your machine, especially pulling attachments that have some weight to them. I have less than 1000 miles on it as of this post and have not one complaint...not one. You buy what's best suited for your needs... I KNOW I bought what's best suited for mine. I did buy a set of rear chains, but most of the time I don't need them... my machine would climb a tree if I could hang on!!
WK
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Look for EFI, electric power steering, and 4 wheel diff lock. Essentials in my book.
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I have also been looking. My snowmobile works great but I only seem to need it once a year in the slush/snow conditions we sometimes get. My first choice is the Grizzly because of the price, engine, ground clearance. My question is about the Polaris though. It seems that they break down more than the other models mentioned and spend more time in the repair shops. Just don't know if that is true or not. Thoughts?
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My son got a great deal on a 2007 Eiger 400, new, at the end of the season in '07. He wasn't using it much, so he turned it over to me. With chains, without chains, it got stuck fairly frequently. Wouldn't go in slush or even moderate snow /snow drifts. We got after market tracks. LOVE THEM! No more getting stuck. Got a great deal on an almost new set. However, last year, she started over heating on long trips. The dealer says she just doesn't have enough of an engine for the tracks and the way I use her. I pull the second to largest jet sled, outfitted with enough gear to stay out, in a portable shanty, for up to four nights, never leaving the ice. I tow about 350lbs. I'm about 250lbs. I have a tool kit (in case I throw a track) that's almost 100lbs (jack included). I go out hard core and heavy duty. There tracks weigh almost 100lbs. EACH. Total weight, with the machine, is approaching 3/4 of a ton. And yes, I only take it out on 6" or better of ice, preferably 8-10". So, yes, I am asking too much from the machine. A few years ago, I had to have the carb re-jetted, to run better under load. This year, I'm trying to cut down on the gear and weight, leaving some things in the car. And I start a diet tomorrow. LOL. When I can save up the money, I hope a 750 is in my future. That will be enough machine for my needs.
Maybe someone mentioned this, but I didn't see it. You will need a helmet for each rider. Have no more than the number of riders on it than it was built for at the factory. You need to have it registered and liability insurance if taking it off private property. Don't take it on NY groomed snowmobile trails. When towing, you need a rigid tow bar, especially if you have a passenger on the towed item. You must not go any faster that enough speed to move it forward near fishermen/women, ice skaters, shantys, etc. Do not exceed 55mph on public property (lakes), not that mine will, lugging that amount of gear! LOL. Do not take it on public highways. And of course, do not DWI. Not complying with the above will get you tickets / fines and headaches you don't need. I hope this helps. Good luck with it!
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Polaris sportsman BABY
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I bought a polaris sportsman 400 couple years back. I plow and tow my fishing stuff no problem. They are all good machines a lot depends on price and loyalty to a brand. Only thing I would say is stay away from the electric shift Hondas. Honda motors are bullet proof but when that electric crap breaks it isn't cheap.
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I bought a Polaris Sportsman 500 2 years ago, it has been a great machine for me. A lot of it's use is in the woods- some of it very steep- I love the EBS (engine braking system) for coming back down the hills. I assume that most guys that use 4 wheelers for ice fishing also have use for it the other 9 months of the year. They will work fine for ice fishing except in deep snow. Mine has no chains- I'm good to go through 12, maybe 15 inches of snow (heavy wet snow, not so much, fluff is no problem), after that- it sucks. Not the machines fault- it wasn't built for those conditions... a snowmobile is. Burying a 4 wheeler out ice fishing sucks and makes for a long day. Stay off with it when heavy snow creates slush underneath. I would definitely want a winch on it & a method to get it unburied using the winch if necessary. If the primary use for the machine would be for ice fishing- buy a sled. If the primary use is the other 9 months of the year- buy a wheeler that meets all your requirements for that and use it on ice when conditions permit. When the only tool you own is a hammer... everything starts looking like a nail... How about a wheeler & a sled!
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Sportsman 800efi w chains and a plow unstoppable!!!
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I guess Polaris is o.k. then. I would probably keep the sled for a backup though. It is a Polaris Indy Lite and runs pretty good as long I stay away from the ethanol gas.
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I have an 450 Arctic Cat with EFI, 4x4 with differential lock and put chains on rear wheels when snow got over a foot deep with slush last year and it ran great. I tow a 2 man shelter with all my junk and never got stuck. I never had to put it in 4x4 mode; just ran it as a 4x2 with chains on rear. If you do run it as a 4x4, you should put chains on all 4 wheels to prevent any damage to drive train caused by wheel spin. Another must for any wheeler is a battery tender. Most of the newer machines have electronic clocks, etc. that will drain your battery over time.
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Don't be afraid of an artic cat 500. For the money a great machine
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I feel the tire chains are the most critical. Once the snow/slush gets too deep, your going to struggle no matter what. Unless you want to drop $3000-$5000 on a set of tracks.
I'd love to be able to afford/find an old Ski Doo Tundra. We used to climb mountains on those things. Trouble is, no one that has one wants to get rid of it.
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they are all pretty good. Each brand has a few creature comforts that the next one doesn't. EFI is great since the single cylinder ones are pretty high compression amd turn over hard when cold. I have seen brand new quads that were carbeurated not wanna start when cold just because they wouldn't turn over quite fast enough. Put a battery boost on them and instantly they would start. I've been running an Polaris Sportsman EFI since '09 with no issues!
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Thank you all for the advice! Heading to check them out today. Most of the time there isn't more than a foot of snow on the lakes up here, wind blows it all off. Sportmans and grizzlies I'll check them out! Thanks a ton!
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Seems like you guys have some big machines. I bought a polaris sportsman 335 and it has drug out a TON of deer, RIPPED across Oneida as well as many other nys lakes and really have never gotten it stuck. 700 IMO is way to much machine that you really dont need, but to each their own
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Got a used arctic cat 500 last year and it was the best ice fishing investment yet. I put a set of kenda executioner tires with 1 1/4 " knobs on them and never been stuck. Pulled myself, my fat buddy and all equipment and shacks out to the middle of Oneida through a ton of snow no problem. Just put a winch and plow on it and it works great. Either way whatever you decide I'm sure you're going to love it.
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Tires are the best upgrade you can make. If you have a big machine 28" maxxis bighorns are awesome. I have 25" bighorn 2.0s on my smaller rancher 350 and they help a lot too. Always go up at least an inch or 2 when replacing stock tire because you will gain clearance and flotation.
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When talking about tires, I checked the air in mine the other day and one looked a little soft...checked air pressure and it was only about 10 psi. Tire says it can hold up to 36 psi!! Im thinking no way. Front now have 15 psi and back 20 psi. Any thoughts or recommendations.....36 seems ridiculously high....or am I way off.
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When talking about tires, I checked the air in mine the other day and one looked a little soft...checked air pressure and it was only about 10 psi. Tire says it can hold up to 36 psi!! Im thinking no way. Front now have 15 psi and back 20 psi. Any thoughts or recommendations.....36 seems ridiculously high....or am I way off.
Way off - I run 6 - 8 depending on the type of riding, i.e. hard or soft ground.
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What do you guys think about the size for 2 adults?
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Way off - I run 6 - 8 depending on the type of riding, i.e. hard or soft ground.
Check your owner's manual. I think it will say anywhere from 5-8 psi. Would like to hear from others on this.
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Ooops! Wrong quote; I meant to include the one that said tires were rated for 36psi.
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I run 5 in my honda 450.
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Ooops! Wrong quote; I meant to include the one that said tires were rated for 36psi.
That 36 PSI is a DON'T exceed pressure for beading, not operational pressure.
YIKES!!
Rocky terrain etc I've run down to 3-4psi, certain times it can also help with additional traction. Normal as stated above is 5-8 PSI.
For some hard surfaces like road riding you can go 9-10 just to reduce fuel usage & perhaps a bit more speed.
Heck even guys on 2wd race quads fighting for all the speed they can get don't exceed 10. They will often run split pressure slightly higher in the front & lower in the back, less resistanc up front, but still have traction
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ARCTIC CAT450. Nice overall machine ,plenty of power for most work. Cooks Recreation in Tully NY has a 450 and a 500 left over from 2014 sale priced around 5k. 6lbs. air for me.
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Does anyone have a 2-up atv? We are looking at the 2015 Polaris 570 and 850. We are wondering if the 570 is enough for approx. 500lbs on the wheeler(2 people, auger, some gear). And towing a shanty behind, probably 100-200lbs. We are thinking the 850 would be a little better in some deeper snow with all the weight. But is the 850 over kill? Or would the 570 do the job? We just dont want to have to struggle in some situations! Thank you guys!
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Does anyone have a 2-up atv? We are looking at the 2015 Polaris 570 and 850. We are wondering if the 570 is enough for approx. 500lbs on the wheeler(2 people, auger, some gear). And towing a shanty behind, probably 100-200lbs. We are thinking the 850 would be a little better in some deeper snow with all the weight. But is the 850 over kill? Or would the 570 do the job? We just dont want to have to struggle in some situations! Thank you guys!
I would say YES. I have a Polaris 550 and travel with two big guys, gear and towing two shelters. No problem - also have tracks for when the conditions demand them i.e. lots of snow and sluch.
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Thank you for the quick reply! That was very needed, we have been calling all around the northern part of the state looking for 850's. I still think that the 570 down the road at the Polaris dealership is the better option. What amount of snow/slush limits you?
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Thank you for the quick reply! That was very needed, we have been calling all around the northern part of the state looking for 850's. I still think that the 570 down the road at the Polaris dealership is the better option. What amount of snow/slush limits you?
Generally - more than 14". It's usually the snow with slush, a thin layer of ice with water between that and the real ice. Got a buddy with a Polaris 500 and he goes pretty well with just his 4 stock tires, until we get the snow and slush.
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Make sure that you can put chains on whatever you buy. Some of the brands don't have sufficient clearances to run chains. IMO you do not need the power of a bigger machine for ice fishing. Anything from a 250 up will pull your gear on the ice. If you do some serious off roading or trails, get a bigger machine.
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RIght on the chains fitting - the Polaris 500s with the strut suspension (don't know about the 570s) do not have clearance between the tire and strut for chains. No the end - you can use tire screws up front. To be honest - I would never go back to chains, not after using ice screws. And I would not go smaller than a 500. You get into some snow and slush you will need the power of the 500 - not to mention they have bigger frames with more ground clearance. Also, get a winch and be prepared to "pull" yourself out.
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We ended up purchasing a 2015 Can-Am Outlander MAX 650 xt. It really has all of the specs we wanted and more. Looks like it will be a great quad and definitely worth the money.
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We ended up purchasing a 2015 Can-Am Outlander MAX 650 xt. It really has all of the specs we wanted and more. Looks like it will be a great quad and definitely worth the money.
I just bought that same one without the MAX in camo two weeks ago. Love it so far as I got it mostly to plow the driveway, haul wood and of course ice fish. No plow on it as I'm waiting to get 10 hours on the motor before I do so.
TO THE TOPIC: I tested two other makes of ATV's and for what I mainly wanted it for I felt this one was best for me so I would recommend testing a few and go with your gut.
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Awsome thats great to hear, we are picking it up tomorrow and might give it a drive on the lake. According to my dad when i take it out myself i get the grey key...(the one that max's the speed out at 40 or 45)
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You will love the canam..........tons of power......rides like a Cadillac and extremely reliable. I have had many different brands of wheelers and my canam is by far the best and hasn't given me a problem
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Be careful with speed until you get used to machine. They can swap ends in a hurry on the ice and get sideways against a pressure ridge which will get you a trip to the emergency room.
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I'll be honest I grab a key and go. I really don't need to go 45 myself. Best thing so far is the three different levels of power steering. You can have the thing sit in idle and steer with one finger (though I wouldn't try it when moving.hehe) I also agree with fishmon that's something I wouldn't thought of myself and glad it was mentionend.
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Oh for sure i wouldnt even hit the 40 mph max on that key, ill be towing a bucket of minnows and a tent. Cant afford flipping that sled. Cant wait to get it out there though!
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RIght on the chains fitting - the Polaris 500s with the strut suspension (don't know about the 570s) do not have clearance between the tire and strut for chains. No the end - you can use tire screws up front. To be honest - I would never go back to chains, not after using ice screws. And I would not go smaller than a 500. You get into some snow and slush you will need the power of the 500 - not to mention they have bigger frames with more ground clearance. Also, get a winch and be prepared to "pull" yourself out.
The struts in the front? Because right in your owners manual it tells you not to run chains on front.
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my brother has a can-am 650 i have a polaris 800 efi so far nether one has had to pull the other out of any thing we have been through snow or mud. and i have plowed snow so deep it surprised me it went through.
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We ended up purchasing a 2015 Can-Am Outlander MAX 650 xt. It really has all of the specs we wanted and more. Looks like it will be a great quad and definitely worth the money.
Nice - you are going to like that machine. All the power you will ever need (note I did not say want). ;D
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We looked more into the specs but the horse power was an added bonus :D
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As both a PowerSports Dealer (Polaris, Kawasaki, Victory, New Holland, StarCraft & Mercury Outboards), and a long time ice fisherman, let me say your best choice in ATVs is also tied heavily to what you are willing to spend... Many good comments and suggestions have already been made -- in terms of features, you definitely want at least 4WD and automatic transmission, and EFI is a definite plus for starting in the cold -- a rear set of V-Bar chains is a must -- nice to haves would be heated hand grips/thumb warmer and a windshield! A real good combination of features and value is the Polaris Sportsman 570 EFI (Base model MSRP is $6,499). You mentioned 2 of you fishing together -- if you will only have one machine, then the Polaris Sportsman 570 Touring would be another good choice for transporting 2 persons comfortably (Base model MSRP is $7,699)... If you have the budget, then you can consider larger engines/more power 750 or 850cc twins, or more luxury features like EPS (Electronic Power Steering) or Limited Edition models with aluminum alloy wheels, painted finishes and so on...!
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Yeah we went with the aluminum wheels, eps, front/rear bumpers. We weren't trying to spend the most amount of money just wanted it to be a long term investment. Also with the shock the can am machine has a few different features compared to the other brands. The features made it seem to me that they have it figured out more so than the other brands.
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"Some times you get the bear, some times the bear gets you".
Another Grizzly fan here.
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We couldn't get the grizzly because it doesn't legally hold 2 passangers. They don't make a 2 up machine.
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We couldn't get the grizzly because it doesn't legally hold 2 passangers. They don't make a 2 up machine.
Oops, missed that. when I was making my decision, my runner up choice was a Outlander. I wanted the smaller footprint the Grizzly offered so as to be able to haul it in the bed of my truck when wearing regular rubber.
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Yeah there was great feedback on the grizzly and when we found out about the legality of two riders we needed more options. The 3 that made 2 ups were can am, arctic cat, and polaris.
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Are you certain you want to go with an ATV? I have the Argo pictured below and love it. I can haul 6 guys legally, made up a custom sleigh that would haul a small pick up around, and with the tracks I am have yet to get it stuck even in 3' of snow. They are not speed demons, but I can use mine much earlier and later in the season than any ATV or UTV. Besides, if it were to go through the ice they float and can climb back onto the ice again.
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I have a honda 450 forman my brother has a kawi 800, he love the Honda no rattles and starts every time
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We couldn't get the grizzly because it doesn't legally hold 2 passangers. They don't make a 2 up machine.
Excellent choice! I went in to buy a Grizzly 700 in 2013 and ended up buying a Can-Am Outlander 800 Max XT instead. I can’t believe how nice this 2up machine is. Even the wife is happy with this purchase. I have added hand/thumb warmers, windshield, rear box, and it is so comfortable for ice fishing. The 2up option is huge along with the power steering. The V-Twin engine is incredible. I have always been a Honda/Yamaha fan, but Can-Am has turned me away alittle. The true test will be what condition it is in after 10 years of use. Enjoy!
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Another Polaris here. So far, so good for my 2014 570.
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Another Polaris here. So far, so good for my 2014 570.
Gotta love those tracks. I hear the 570 is a very capable machine - did you get power steering?
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I'm very happy thus far, this is my first full season with the machine and it's been a blast. I didn't get the PS, my sales person actually talked me out of it. He had me sit on a machine with tracks on gravel, not moving, and told me to turn the bars. I was shocked as to how easy they turned. When I test rode it in the snow, I didn't see a need for the power steering.
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I'm very happy thus far, this is my first full season with the machine and it's been a blast. I didn't get the PS, my sales person actually talked me out of it. He had me sit on a machine with tracks on gravel, not moving, and told me to turn the bars. I was shocked as to how easy they turned. When I test rode it in the snow, I didn't see a need for the power steering.
PS is nice, really nice is in deep snow with tight maneuvering - i.e. trails through the woods. I added PS to my machine (aftermarket) and would never own one without it again. Did the dealer have any machines with PS for you to test drive?
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They did have one, but it didn't have the tracks on it. I don't use my ATV for trail riding and I don't blaze a lot of trails in the woods to get to the lakes. That said, now I'll probably need it.
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They did have one, but it didn't have the tracks on it. I don't use my ATV for trail riding and I don't blaze a lot of trails in the woods to get to the lakes. That said, now I'll probably need it.
Well, you can certainly add it. There are aftermarket kits - good ones. ;)
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We have only put 25 miles on our machine in the last 2 weeks. Still trying to break her in :)
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I have a 2010 Kawasaki Teryx side by side. Its a 750, and if you guys are thinking side by side you need that much motor at least if not more. Right before x-mas I came across a set of used tracks and I snapped them up. So far I love this set up. I have an older quick flip III with the green fabric, and I lay it across the box and strap it down with auger on top of it. Works great this way but is a two man job loading it because it is rather high up to get sled on top of the utv's box. Don't know the weight of it, but I don't push early ice and am very conservative. I would highly recommend the side by side and love my teryx around the farm. Only drawback is you need a 12 foot trailer to haul it around.
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We ended up purchasing a 2015 Can-Am Outlander MAX 650 xt. It really has all of the specs we wanted and more. Looks like it will be a great quad and definitely worth the money.
Hello ADK11, should have checked out this post earlier. Good choice on your new bike. I started with a Polaris Sportsman 500 great machine but didn't like how the 4 wheel drive system worked. Make a long story short I went with a 2008 Outlander 500 XT. Great machine put over 10,000 km, no problems next bike is a 2014 650 Outlander Max XT. I didn't think the power steering would make much of a difference, I was wrong! I would have got the 500 XT but a friend like to ride with me now so I went with the 650 also wanted the extra power for the tracks.
The tracks are Camoplast T4S. With tracks the bike is 54 inches wide and 9 feet long. It takes just over an hour (this is after the initial set-up) to put them on and 45 minutes to change back to tires. On this set the speed ratio is 0.68, this means if the speedometer is indicating 10 km/h then the actual speed is 6.8 km/h. Depending on the depth of snow with the engine running at 6000 rpm in high gear the actual speed is around 36 km/h. You will find the turning radius is reduced by quit a bit and your mileage will suck. Check the video link at bottom of post.
2008 Outlander with chains, worked good in the conditions but close to its limits.
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2014 Outlander Max XT 650
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Set-up for Ice Fishing
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Here's a short video taken back of the cottage on the hydro line with the tracks
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Wow those tracks work wonders in that 2 feet of snow :o We are loving the new bike right now, only 25 miles on it so far. We are still in the process of figuring out what works best for our ice fishing set up. Right now we have a rack on the front for our eskimo power auger and thats it. We are looking to either make or buy a rack for the back that would hold 3 buckets. 1 Bucket holds the vexilar, the other has the rods and tip-ups(which we made rod holders on the outside of the bucket, and dividers on the inside for the tip ups. The other bucket would either hold minnows or dry gloves, snacks and etc. Not really sure on what type of rack to go for which would hold those buckets. I personally think a homeade one would be better than dropping $300 on a factory one, just to make it fit our needs!
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Wow those tracks work wonders in that 2 feet of snow :o We are loving the new bike right now, only 25 miles on it so far. We are still in the process of figuring out what works best for our ice fishing set up. Right now we have a rack on the front for our eskimo power auger and thats it. We are looking to either make or buy a rack for the back that would hold 3 buckets. 1 Bucket holds the vexilar, the other has the rods and tip-ups(which we made rod holders on the outside of the bucket, and dividers on the inside for the tip ups. The other bucket would either hold minnows or dry gloves, snacks and etc. Not really sure on what type of rack to go for which would hold those buckets. I personally think a homeade one would be better than dropping $300 on a factory one, just to make it fit our needs!
If you haven't already done so, I would recommend at least looking the Otter front and rear boxes for your rig. There's a lot of storage and versatility there. Shipping may be an issue if you don't have a local stocking dealer though.
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Hello ADK11, should have checked out this post earlier. Good choice on your new bike. I started with a Polaris Sportsman 500 great machine but didn't like how the 4 wheel drive system worked. Make a long story short I went with a 2008 Outlander 500 XT. Great machine put over 10,000 km, no problems next bike is a 2014 650 Outlander Max XT. I didn't think the power steering would make much of a difference, I was wrong! I would have got the 500 XT but a friend like to ride with me now so I went with the 650 also wanted the extra power for the tracks.
What is the yellow folded up piece in front of your radiator for? Looks like a piece of wood with hinges? Thanks.
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What is the yellow folded up piece in front of your radiator for? Looks like a piece of wood with hinges? Thanks.
Hello F1, what you're looking at is a foldaway seat and windbreak.
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Great idea, thanks much. ;)