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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Perch => Topic started by: firsticerules on Dec 11, 2003, 05:12 PM
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just wondering on how big a perch has to be, to be considered a jumbo in your opinion to me a 9 incher is pretty big but i have caught several over 11 inches
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10" is a jumbo. Big is anything over 11" on most lakes. Some lakes give up lots of big ones but they get fished down pretty quick. 9" is kind of on the small side but some areas thats all you can ask for.
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Jumbo Perch over 12'', Super jumbo 14'' to 16'' :'(
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In my opinion, Jumbo perch is a relative term, specific to areas and bodies of water. On the best lake in our area I call 12'' and up jumbos. Some other lakes don't seem to have any perch that size. Guess it also comes down to personal preference. I've noticed the same thing with crappies; one mans "slab" ia another mans throwback.
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Van - well put. We cruise up to Lake Simcoe in Canada and pick up some 12" perch we consider jumbos, then come back down to NY and pick up 10" perch we consider slobs. All depends on the body of water, and the relative size averaged in them.
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We consider Jumbo Perch to be the ones that have a definate hump on their backs. Usually these ones are in the 11'' plus. It is really nice when you hit a school of these as you can fill your bucket quickly and get some quality meat. I definately like cleaning these than the small ones.
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my better half caught a 12 7/8 inch jumbo on her first outing last year--i measured it several times for her but it would not stretch to make 13" which would qualify her for manitoba master angler --here 13-15" on some lakes is not uncommon and i'm still tryin :-X :-X :-X
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you guys are all right it does deppend on the body of water. i should change my ways because i always throw back many smaller ones on one lake that everyone else keeps cause i think they should by bigger than that.
thanx for clearing that up ;D
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Don't change your ways. I usually toss back perch that are less than 9.5-10'', despite the fact that there may not be a lot of bigger fish present. Have always felt that a fish at that size is just hitting prime growth stage; if it makes it til the following season it will be a real nice fish! However, if you have fished a body of water for years, and the top size is 9-9.5'' you may as well take a bunch, it's probably overcrowded anyway.
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thanx for clearing that up so i don't take fish home that are to small for that body of water and should be let go to grow.
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Ah selective harvest. And Jumbo's around here are 11 " and bigger.
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14 pluse
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When the stomachs and heads make you go "d*mn"!
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all depends but here in ny between my friends and I under 6" is a dink
6-12 are ussually keepers and 12-14" is called a nice perch 14" plus are slobs, pigs, jumbos
haha i had to modify this 2 yr old post
under 6" is a dink 6-9" is a perch 9-11" is a keeper 12"-13" is a real nice one and anything over 13" is a slob, pig, jumbo etc :)
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I don't care what boody of water I'm fishing on. I try not to keep anything under 9". To me a "jumbo" is 12" or bigger. Also known as "slob" or "pig".
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A good perch aka "jumbo" should be 11-12 inches -- if they are smaller than that -- alittle teadous to fillet but fun to catch. Dont get me wrong I use a electric knive and can fillet a grass perch if needed.
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you need to catch them first empty. i've seen you carve up some masterpieces back in the day before the electric.
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I should be a butcher the way I skin em good
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out there quartering up the 1/2pound perch over a bucket of OV splits.
the goood ole days.
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i think nothing under 8 1/2 inches should be kept. 8 1/2 -10- average fish, 10-11 good fish, 11-13 jumbo, 13+ super jumbo
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There is a good article in the most recent On The Water (a New England fishing magazine) that discusses pulling jumbo Perch through the ice. The author caught a 16" 2lber last season. I've found a couple ponds here in Mass that have em up to 14", but the average is 6"-10".
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Last year on Erie we caught many well over 14", and threw back all that were under 10". All depends on when and where you fish. I had my GPS marked the previous summer for a huge dropoff and some structure. Each day we limited out on super jumbos, while everyone else was getting little fish. All on the day I guess and knowledge.
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anything over 15" is jumbo.... I've landed several in the 16-18" class on only one lake, and now I can't even think about fishing for perch on another... we can catch up to 30 in an evening 14-18"...seems like every one that comes up the hole has smelt sticking out it's mouth.
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Well to be quite honest with ya ill keep em at 7 inches. not to much differnece in meat between a 7 inch and a 9 inch. The biggest i caught here on simcoe is 14.5. Ive seen bigger though just not on the end of MY rod, My theory though on the really big ones is that for the most part i find that they are females . Why not keep ur fill on the more abundant smaller ones and let the bigger breeders go>? I know it would never happen but just a thought to think about. Tight lines ;D
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Thats a good point germ, why are all the big ones hens? I cleaned ten yesterday and probably averaged 9.5". Everyone of them a girl.
I would have to be pretty hungry for fish to clean a 7" though.
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I believe that its a Location VS Jumbo situation. SOme lakes just don't have the lunkers that others do. So average it out with your lakes biggest size and compare sizes to that. For the most part though i believe anything over the 11 inch range would qualify ya for Jumbo catergory. Anything over the 14 Make sure to run it in your friends face. Say stuff like "Hey you want to touch this fish casue you ain't gonna catch one yourself" lol have fun
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Sorry just had to make a side note about the 16-18 inch Perch. And catching severel in the 18 inch >? Dang man keep em next time cause if your Catching any at 18 inches i'd be calling for Records in your Area as i don't think Our simcoe Present record was even 18 inches. That would make it somewhere near a 3.5 Perch? Were these perch actually Measured? I mean iv'e thought Fish were big before and marked them off on my Fishing pole only to be Saddened when i got home from the actually measurement Versus what i thought was 16 inches to my mind. My biggest out of SImcoe is 14.5. Which i believe to be somewhere near 16 and a half. During that day before i got home i would have bet everything that it was 16 and a half...Surprizeing what excitement and cold weather can do to your judgement. ANyhow if you happen to get anymore Perch in the 18 mark please PLEASE take a shot for me beside a ruler and weigh that puppy as you might be pleased to be in the record books.
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on st. clair it is 11 and up i have seen up to 16s
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Ya ive seen up NEar the 16 but DAng im sorry 18???????? Im not saying this guy is a liar im just sayng that hes DRunk or stoned when he measured the damm thing. COme on 18 inches????a foot and a half Perch? Lets be real Guys am I wrong or this Guy Old as dirt Blind as a Bat and drunk as a SKunk when he measured it? Ya i thought SO.
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last summer in lake erie i got a nice 15" 1lb 12oz perch in 54' of water, getting it back within a few weeks, goin on the wall
i heard of a 20"er being caught that same summer here in erie, but it was hardly a pound, really scrawny fish
nate
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a 20 inch perch? You have heard but did you even see it? Get the measure tape out man 20 inch perch? Like seriosuly AM i the only one who thinks this is like a little out there>? I need some pictures guys Beside a tape measure before ill believe any of the 18 or 20 inch perch. It just doenst add up right to me! Like i said i'll believe it when i see it. Tight lines!
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20 inch perch in lake erie i beleive it here in alberta me and my partener have each got 2 on the wallthat are between 15 and 18 inches those 4 came out of a lake that is only 2 square miles in size
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Send me the picture of your PErch also thers alot of numbers bewteen 15 and 18...Are you saying one of them is 18? Please send me a picture of this foot and a half perch. Post it on here beside the ruler please...I think its more likle 15 and a half rather then near the 18 mark..Just my thoughts but id love to see the picture if you could send it:> Thanks
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i m with u germ i once heared about a 17 in, maybe a new state recored for mi :-\ never got the rest of the story
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I keep a tape in my supplies for accurate measures. The state record in PA is only 16.5", by the way. Once layed eyes on one that was probably 18-19'' in a glacial pond in NE PA. My brother hooked it on a medium crankbait, and busted the line at the boat. We tried repeatedly, but never saw one of that size again. One of the locals had allegedly landed a 19'' the day before. In this state they wouldn't have qualified for a state record , as it was a private pond, and not open to the public. Never got to ice fish that pond, and now that my uncle passed on, I never will. That one I saw boatside was a true jumbo!
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Hmmm Fish not in the boat broke before the boat 18-19 incher? Well it might as well have been a 3 foot fish. I cannot see it being 19 inches guys im sorry its just me i NEED proof. I seen alot of Perch in various sizes and colors and with crap growing out of them...Never have i seen one over 17. ITs possible anythings possible but I just want to see some pictures is all im saying. I need the hard proof nit just the WOrds! Damm skeptics eh!
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mine was 15", but IM TOTALLY SERIOUS it was 20" some guy brought it in for weighing but it was just over a pound, really skinny fish, it wasnt a jumbo either, just a weird perch,and out pa state record was a REALLY fat fish
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Where's the picture? No picture no proof no way! LOL just being a hard arse is all i need a picture if anyone has a perch or knows of a perch over 17 in the 18-20 mark id like a picture please
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sorry man i dont have a pic for ya, my buddy mike felix saw it, you guys should remember that name lol, he's in the 2004 PWT, watch out ted takasaki! once i get my 15" back from the taxidermist in a few weeks ill get a pic of that
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when all the debating about what length it is or could be is over, i have one request. SHOW ME THE PICTURE!!! grumpy
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Ok so You didnt even see the thing at 20 inches..This is one of those Friend of a friend type stuff. Listen i believe my own eyes and that sometimes is doubtful untill a measure tape is beside it. Like i said before it sometimes really hard to guess a length of a fish. I went fishint today and thought the perch i was keeping were like 7-9 inches they were 5-7 inch ones poor guys. LOL i kept only 4 it was damm cold and i was gonna have a snack regradless. LOL Minus 21 outside minus 29 with the windchill. Dangit i hate that cold north wind!
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18 in perch ?? Walleye!!!
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Yep thast what i say these guys who are claiming 18 inches don;'t or have never seen a perch and are mistaken for a walleye.
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I have a 8" mark on my ice skimmer, don't keep anything under that. Where I fish (Sodus Bay, Upstate NY) a Jumbo is 12" or more. Did catch one this year that was 14 3/4". We call those SLOBOLAS
Perchaddict
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The ontario record for perch is 14 and 3/4 in length and i believe 2 and 3/4 pounder. So just to get a idea of how big a 20 inch would be.
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i should call the WCO office here at walnut creek access and ask if the rumor was true, and germ i said the fish was really scrawny and un healthy, my 15'er weighed more than it did
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All im saying is without a picture its just one guy telling another guy a STORY. All these 17-20 inchers and no pictures on here? SOunds a lil FISHY to me. Set hook line and sinker. Now reel em in. PICTURES PICTURES PICTURES!
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http://www.landbigfish.com/staterecords/fishrecords.cfm?ID=172
ya 20 may be a little big
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Can't blame anyone for being skeptical, everyones got a fish story. Did catch 2 perch on my fav. local lake Mon. one was 13'' and thin, (male) the other just a tad longer but a fat female. Took pictures too, but haven't got the digital camera yet. Still hoping for larger, but got some impressive and tasty fillets; I was happy and so was the wife. Good luck to all who search for jumbos.
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Those records u showed there are for white perch correct...Arnt we discussing Yellow Perch here? Is there a differnce in size? AS thew picture i looked at there is differnt...But not to familir with the differnces and wonder if its fair to compare the 2 or not? ANyone know of the differneces in the two if any? ALso i post a picture on the ontario part of this forum or i should say trapper posted my picture for me of a 11 inch just to show you guys how i would like to see the pictures of these 17-20 inchers. Plese send em if you got em.
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Not my fish, just an image I found. I'll keep looking for proof of the 18"er. This one's getting close.
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=10039&password=&sort=1&cat=529&page=5
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Gettin closer. I gotta figure there ARE some 18-20 inch fish out there somewhere. Not that I expect to ever see one coming up outta MY hole!! ;)
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=8228&password=&sort=1&cat=529&page=11
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those are both nice perch. ;D what i got out of it the first one was 16" and the second was around 18" but they didn't really measure the fish at the tip of the tail so it could be bigger :o. but i agree highly with germ, a 20" perch must be on steriods or something. if there is a 18-20" perch i need to see it with a very accurate tape measure. we need picture proof.
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Well that first one in the snow is more like 14 incher casue it startes measureing before the tail but the second one is probably around the 17 mark or 18 even. As you see in the picture that the tail extends past it. where the measure stops. Now this fish would be trouphy size for sure WOuld be record size for Ontario. My point here is that Its like the equivilent to a 23 pound bass as far as how often you would catch one in this size catagory. Not the normal Run of the mill ..Like oh ya i catch servel in this length...And im totally wrong on this or what?>
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Germ, I think these fish would be considered exceptional anywhere. I'm not trying to suggest that anyone would, or even could, catch fish like these on a regular or consistant basis. That doesn't mean they aren't out there. When I was searching for those pics, ran acrss a lot of weights for perch that were 3 lbs plus, just none that had the desired picture with the tape next to the fish. I can bet they were pretty dang long though!!! :) :)
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Yes but what im saying are these Yellow perch? The records someone psoted are for white perch...Are they the same? Can we compare yellow to white fairly? I have never caught a white perch so i don't know. ANyhow ya i agree they are out there SOmewhere but the same to here people say oh ya i catch lots in the 16-18 catagory. Looking at that bigger picture of the one being taxidermed it is taken on a angle and would be more in the 16.7 inch i believe. Anyhow Would still like the photo's..As iv'e said Ontario Record for perch is like 14 3/4 inch in length at 2 and 3/4 pound. Keep loading in the pics gang.
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Sorry, no pics this time, but a pretty complete list of records of Yellow Perch. Not all include length, but you can make some pretty fair assumptions by comparing the weights of those with lengths to those without. I'll keep poking around for pics when I get a chance.
http://www.hotspotfishing.com/records/fish-records-Perch.asp
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Based on those recorfds for perch i would have to say that the white perch gets bigger then the yellow perch. There were a few 4 pounders in the white perch sectiona and NOne for the yellow so i would have to say that if we do talk about perch size that a distinction bewteen the 2 would have to be noted for size and weight fair comparison. Thanks for doing the nosing around for the perch your doing great so far...Now just round me up that 20 incher and ill be done with it. ROFL thanks guys this is really been interesting to me.
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Back in 2001 my partner and I pulled 38 perch from Greenpond lake in NJ ice fishing. I weighed the biggest on a certified cold cut meat scale and it was 1.94 pounds, the ruller tallied 16.5 inches. Of the 20 yellow perch I iced that day, two of them were under a pound, the rest worked their way up to the 16.5/1.94. They were all sow's, no buck's. I have seen fewer that a 1/2 dozen perch that size before or since here in NJ. I would have to agree, an 18 is possible, more than likely in the 3 lb. range if healthy and full of roe. 20 inchers sound like an eyeball measurement, not a ruler/certified scale measurement.
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Hey im not saying it isn't POSSSIBLE im just wanting some proof...Im just also saying that severel in the catagory of 18 inches in a day is more like a FISH tale to me...Just bring in the pictures gentlemen or THat 20 inch perch to me is like BIGFOOT. TIght lines!
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Seaking of jumbo perch, I'd like to share some results of my experimenting with the dropper spoon from Custom Jiggs + Spins. Running it on 6# mono leader, with about an 8" drop, and a Tru-turn (6) hook. I've been fishing it under a Windlass tip-up with a dorsal hooked medium shiner. In 3 trips it has produced the biggest perch: 12.5, 13+, and today a personal best 14''. Also it garnered the best bass each day, as well. Try it, I think you'll like it.
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You sure it wasnt a foot aand a half long? rofl sorry couldnt resist. Anyhow ya ive tried your way before but i like to jig for my perch as when im outside re hooking those minnows becomes a cold and tedious job. We do use minnows though if were really hard up for a bite...Plus they double as a lite snack if you bring along some crakers. TIght lines! ROFL
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All fish were taped to avoid guessing; also they are so fat that I typically underestimate the length. Also agree about jigging being more fun, and easier on fingers in cold. Was jigging one to two rods, and the dropper spoon still came up with the goods, though I lost a clunker near the hole on my schooley rig. Guess it was one of those 20 inchers. lol!!! Ordered a couple more, and next time I may as well jig one of them. Have made my own versions before, but you can adjust the drop leghth in seconds on these, according to the mood of the fish. Also at 1.80, they are a pretty good buy.
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Ya you can't beat the price as long as the fish hit on em. I went out this morning and got skunked ...Iv'e been having a hard time targeting them deep. Iv'e been doing this becasue i have been trying to target Lunker's and jumbp's instead of the tyical 1 in 20 jumbo. ALot of people think im stupid for trying other spots when im getting fish but sometimes it is about quality then quanity. I caN GET THEM EASY ENOUGH UNDER 10 FEET of water right now but im also trying for whities and lakers and perch in the same depth so iv'e been hitting the 45 feet mark. HArdly No fish....Sniff sniff...But im still trying for Walter the 10 inch perch. Tight lines all.
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My largest perch is 16 inches 2lbs 4ozs caught out of Conesus lake in Western NY. I have also caught an 18 inch perch out of Conesus which was a male and it only weihed in at 1lb 8ozs. I wish that would have been a female that fish would have been 3lbs easy but as my luck goes it wasn't. Still it was a nice perch. I think a jumbo perch is anything 14 inches +.
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Got some questions for ya about that one. Firstly We talking Yellow perch here? And secondly ANy pictures? And thirdly if they are Yellow Perch did you measure it before or after the beer was finished? TIght lines!
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Now i have noticed alot of Lip about these 18-20 inch's but being hard pressed to see a picture guys......This is starting to sound just a lil fishy to me now......WHere are ya walter? You out there.? Walter.....WALTER!!!!!!!!! Send in the pics Guys and lets see BIgfoot..Ohhh i mean Walter the 20 inch Perch! Tight Lines!
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SO im sitting there out on the lake fishing and this old lady (must have been Anicent Almost as Old as TrapperDirk) Anyhow she comes hobbling out to the Perch fishing grounds. She walks right up to me as im sitting in My fold up chair on the ice. She says..."Johnny is that you??" I take off my hooded balaclava and poilitly tell her "Sorry No mame My name is Germ" She Apoligies to me profusily and tells me I looked exactly like her son. She then asks if she could talk to me a sec. Now GErm being the nice guy that he is extends to her his chair and grabs another out of his Backpack and unfolds it and sits down. She moves her Chair over to me like inches away. Im thinking this is a lil Odd plus the fact she wasnt really dressed for Out On the Lake Winter conditions. She then began to tell me about her Johnny. She TOld me 20 Years ago her Son Johnny who was a avid fisherman came down to the lake to fish one day on a day much similir to this (weaher condtions etc etc) And he never returned. They found his stuff Just sitting there on the lake Pole still in the water seat on the Ice much like mine was and His pack of smokes laying beside his chair. The LAdy out of belief to me moves her chair closer to me If possible and tells me that I look exactly like her SOn did 20 years earlier....A lil chill runs up my spine. She then Grabs ahold of my hand and clasps it in hers. She tells me that I have the same Voice TOne as did her sons. Im a lil freaked out at this time. She then asks if she can touch my face as her vision isnt as good as it used to be. This being well over the norm for acceptability i was about to protest but her Old feeble hand was well on the way to my face. She tells me My face is just like her sons..Now this is where it gets Even more spooky...She asks me if it would be allright for me to call her Meema. Apprently her Johnny used to call her "Meeema" I said ok....She also adds in can i say to her "Meema I love you and i miss you and i want to come home it's cold out here." Being more then freaked and just want to get this lady off the Ice I tell her Ok i Will but after this you have to leave...So as im saying this Line that she wants me to say she put's her hand On my leg and starts Pullling it...And she's pulling my Leg .....Much as Im Pulling your's right now.........Much as the SAme as that damm 20 inch perch...LOl Got ya Hook line and Sinker!!! Whos da Man How many of you did i catch?>??? Tight lines all!
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What do Germ, Richard Simmons and an apple have in common?
They're all FRUITS!!!
;D ;D ;D
I knew you were going somewhere with that, just wasn't sure where it was. Thanks for the laugh.
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Lol nps at all i thought Since this particualr section was pretty much just bull-crap anyhow i might as well PIle on more . ROFL GLad to make ya laugh...Tight lines!
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Just thought id say hello to all again and ask ever so much for that 20 incher picture! My Pal Frank went out on SImcoe few days ago and got soem nice perch the biggest weighing 1.5 pounds measured in at 13 and a half inches. 6 and a half shy of that elusive 20 incher im hearing! LOL tight lines all.
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The world record is only 19'' if memory serves me. Got my goal set for 17'', cause that would probably be a state racord in PA. Had to settle for 13'' last time out; still wacking them with a dropper spoon and minnow. Unfortunately, the rain is likely to wreak havock with our ice; it won't stop!
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Yes I got a pic sent to me from a guy on here and they were 16 inchers . Real dandys . They were from P.A.
Germ you still seem to be chasing that elusive 20 inch yellow perch on here . LOL ;D
Now I'm beginning wonder though if using little old ladies for bait is legal here or anywhere . LOL
I read our regulations book for Ontario gamefish .
It says . Using little old ladies for bait is in contravention of code 1234 otherwise known as the Germ law , and comes with a maximum fine of 2000 minnows and forfeiture of your angling license for a period of two years . LOL ;D ;D
Now quit messing around with little old ladies and catch us that 20 inch perch . LOL
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Well i caught a 12 inch today just under a pound by 21 grams. Now im 8 inchs shy of the 20 inch mark and 1 and a half poundd shy of the ontario Record..Now we must remeber when talking Perch too that we have to specifiy Yellow and white AS White perch get Bigger then Yellow PErch and This 20 Inch was started on the Yellow Perch, And Dang if it takes me tossing a LIL old lady in there to catch a 20 incher then im Game. And if the PErch Like lill OLD men Trapper then id be hiding if i were you...Isn't YOur B-day coming soon? LOl tight lines!
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Kind of coincidental that the difference in my fich being a pound is the Same that the Human soul is supposed to weigh...21 grams. Maybe if i had of weighed the fish alive he would have been a pound? Just a thought! Tight lines!
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This goes back to the original topic. When you cook the fillets from three yellow perch, and they don't all fit in a 10'' skillet(slant sided), so you have to cook the third one seperately; they must be jumbos! White wine, pepper, dill, tarragon, a little garlic and some lime juice; perch the other white meat..mmmmm! Time for dessert, got to go.
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You made that sound so nice....Hmmm Perch...But beer ...as well got to have the beer with the 20 inch perch in a pan. LOL
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well with all this talk about a 20 incher i'm still wondering how in @#$* did any one get it out of the hole. i think that there could be a few deep down under but lets see some pics.
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Had to settle for some white wine the old lady opened; a good compliment to the fish, as it turned out. Have to laugh, cause every batch I cook up is proclaimed to be the best ever. Have been getting a bit of practice with the perch cooking skills this year; hope it continues! Tight lines everyone, beware of the 20 incher!
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You think maybe if i glued 2 x 10 inch perch together that they would mind? it would still be a 20 inch perch right? Like just so you can process this in all your minds....Lets say i said i had this hot chick for you....Or you could take home 2 really cute chicks instead..(if Females are reading this just insert hunks instead of chicks..we have to fair to the women) Like would it matter to anyone as long as you were still getting the same amount in your head...? Now dang it i know most of you guys arn't even paying attention because your still thinking of either one HOT topless chick or 2 cute chicks so i might as well just end this segment! LOL tight lines all!
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i was on vacation the last 11 days and while i was there i picked up a book of freshwater fishing and it showed the world record weight of some fish and belive it or not it saysthe record perch was 4 lbs 3 ounces coul you imagin how long that fish would be! by the way it was caught in the delaware river new jersy in 1865.
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Yes i have also heard that the record was that and caught in that year...Only problem is that the scales and regulation wernt up to code as far as how they all are now. Christ for all i know buddy could have jammed the belly full of rocks..lol And length doesnt always increase with weight after a certain amount. They get if you have in this long arse thread what is called a SOw bellly. They start growing out.getting fat. SO i can believe it was big and porbably long ...is there any pictures with this 4 pound perch? And was it a yellow perch also? I forgot to look that one up...I'll have to do some investigation..Hey i think it would be great having these big perch i just would like to have pictures of em. I believe thers some monster size perch in the world maybe even some reach the 5 pound mark..lets just catch em and get pictures though. My friend who dives just likes to scuba and see weird stuff he had to retrieve his atv out of the frozen or not so frozen lake last year lol..thin ice what can you do..lol tight lines!
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sorry no pic :(. it was in a book called the art of freshwater fishing. i really can't belive that.
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couldn't find the picture either oh well..Its possible. Anything is possible dang i mean even trapperdirk has a Oldlady i didn;t think that was possible either but like i said anything is possible!LOL
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Aw you see the mightiest little Germ has what we call up here little man syndrome .LOL
He can't bend over far enough to pull a really big perch through the hole . So sad it is when your as wide as you are high . LOL
Now for Germ it would definately be a dream to ever pull a real big perch out of one of his 4 inch auger holes . LOL
I know how hard I had to pull to get the Germ out of a ten inch hole but I was able to bend down to get a two handed grip on his lip . LOL
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Lol man that was funny ...ROFL seriosuly this forum now after work makes my day...i grab a beer hit the ICE Shanty and Dang ya know what feels like kicking back with friends...I don't know if im just sad or what but Id like to thank ICe shanty for making my end of the DAy that much bettter. LOl had to pee and now ive lost my train of thought ( Germs not to swift) i have to re read Trappers last message to see what my come backs going to be!
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Now seriosuly bug Germ but don't be hating his auger. My 3 and a half inch auger hole not 4 inch..i took a 6-7 pound pike up thru that already this year..tight squeeze but was in there (my cousin hooked it i did the finishing move of bring ing her thru the hole) got to like holes...anyhow My problem would be with Whitefish and thats it maybe Ling though as they do get that lil tail like a snake grabbing onto the ice but dang ill rock thru ice in no time takes me maybe 15 secs with no pressure withmy auger in 1 and a half feet of Ice ....lets see how well you kick thru on a manual Auger of 8 inch in one and a half feet without breaking a sweat>? besides if i need the hole bigger just punch 3 connected and i have a hole bigger then your first auger and in just the same amount of time you take to auger one manual of 8 inch. Getone and you wont go back.
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ROTFLMAO .If anybody got the ending let me know LOL . Leave that 4inch auger home Germ . lol
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it was supposed to read GET one and you wont go back. (to using 8 inch) but it came out "Getone" instead. LOL i never said was great at spelling just fishing.
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Well Germ I will stick with my ten inch Jiffy and drill just one hole as compared to three to make up for it . LOL . Don't worry about me breaking a sweat with 18 inches of ice . LOL . Auger does just fine aslong as I have fuel . BRUM brum . LOL
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This is true but Germ still walks out to his fishing grounds so the heavy gas powered wouldnt be very nice to haul around. Thats why my folding 3 and a half inch works great ..WOuld even fit in your purse Trapperdirk! LOL
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It's alright Germ I walk out in places too but I invested in an otter sleigh . I can put in my auger and all my rigging no prob . I will have room for me and all the rigging then hook you up to it to get me out onto the lake . Hope you know the words giddy up go and woh . LOL .
If not I'm sure you will understand my wishes after I pull the gaff out . Rotflmao .
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Na i dont but once in awhile My wife likes to get the whip out..ROFL ya well my Portable acts as a sligh also with all the gear inside Which is what i have to go get ready for now..Just debating weather to stick to a spot i know Or try for crappie and PERCH.....ill be adventurous and do the search thing for crappie hey easy to set up and take down so now biggie if i have to move alot..ANd ya know Germ needs the damm exercise anyhow....Gidddy up And ill be searching for the JUMBO's while im out there....Not sure if ill get the 20 inch but anything is possible.
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Well i didnt get any amd all is ee others catch as i walked by them was dinks.this time of the year for me is a lil harder becasue of shrimp hatches i guess time to go deep again....Oh well Jumbo;s here i come~!
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12 inch jumbo my friend caught today looked like she wsa ready to expload ..she was almost as wide as she was long (not really but u get the idea) Nice to see some big Jumbo's like that.
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A guy caught a 19" SLOOOOOOB at Wilson Harbor, Wilson NY (lake Ont.) two weeks ago. It weighed 3.25 lbs. . Now that's a SLOOOOOOB guys!!! :o :o No doubt I'd mount that SLOOOOOOB. ;D
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Now you talking white Perch or Yellow? And was there any Pcitures of this Notorious Monster SLooob? Cause you know your gonna get ribbed if don't have the pic facts to back ya up lol..Tight lines!
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Germ, It was a yellow. I was not the lucky one to catch it , but I've heard many guys talking about it. I guess the guy weighed it at a local tackle shop in Wlison and they took pictures. Have'nt been up there to see the pic. yet. when i do i'll let ya know. Utes
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Please grab me a picture of at least get a copy post it or what ever to get the 19 inch perch very close to the Notorious 20 inch iv'e been hearing about. Perach get fat but usualy not Long. They get sow bellys as described on this forum anyhow Grab a copy of the pic and please post it as well darn it to hell id love to see it. Tight lines and get that picture!
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Germ, I'm heading to Wilson this Sun. . I'll see if I can get a copy of that slob for the site. Utes
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Well ya better or you'll be Nailed to the cross like the rest of em..LOL tight lines and get the picture!
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Ahem no picture? Ok anyone ? Biggest Perch..Yellow..Post pictures please. HAs to be over 14 inches though....doesn't have to be yours go fish the internet for some Big slobs over the 14 inch mark preferablly the 10 inch mark but ill take anything in between.. LOL now go fish for some internet perch!
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How's this GERM?
http://www.edsbaitshop.com/images/02032000.jpg
FTD
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Not bad at all whos was it and how long was it? i would assume that it would be somewhere near the 16 and a half mark?
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That beast was caught in Devils Lake in North Dakota. What a fish! It's a whole lot larger than any perch I have ever caught, but I thought you'd get a kick out of seeing it.
FTD
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[The way my fishing is going this winter anything bigger than my bait is considered a jumbo ;D ;D ;D On a serious side anything over 12 inches in my eyes is a jumbo.
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True Enough...I was going to go Fishing for lakers today but now i think i'll hit the perch again...Hey what the heck eh...Tight lines all im getting ready to fish PErch.
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germ..lol with a jumbo today..while fishing on the weekend with a couple of new friends from iceshanty, i took the time to go through the manitoba master angler publication for 2002. it contains all the species of fish that are angled for here. of note, the largest perch caught was 16", and alot in the 13"-14" range.. master angler perch must be 13" or larger to qualify. if you would like, send me a private message with your mailing address and i will mail the mag out to you.. grumpymoe
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germ..lol with a jumbo today..while fishing on the weekend with a couple of new friends from iceshanty, i took the time to go through the manitoba master angler publication for 2002. it contains all the species of fish that are angled for here. of note, the largest perch caught was 16", and alot in the 13"-14" range.. master angler perch must be 13" or larger to qualify. if you would like, send me a private message with your mailing address and i will mail the mag out to you.. grumpymoe
Sure thing Grump check your MEssages and Send me the mag Germ love's free stuff...LOL
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Well No jumbo's in the last 2 days of perch fishing for me...Iv'e caught 90 perch in the last 2 days and none reaching what i would call Jumbo STATUS. Tons of what i would call Dinks or As others call them Trapperdirk Dink PErch....lol Tight lines! Oh ya anyone else having the same problem with the lil uns>?
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germ i'd have to agree. my daughter and i fish for perch here in nh and i think the biggest we have ever caught was 15 5/8" made the in-fisherman m/a awards. daughter has the big one this yr for region on and it wasn't even 15 1/2. 2 of our in fisherman perch were caugh by accident both time trolling for pike with BIG stick baits. no not everyone participates in the I/F M/A awards program but i find much over 16 hard to swallow. BTW my daughter is only 7. one of the reasons we perch fish....constant action. and it takes us about 100-200 fish between fish over 12". gota put your time in or be lucky...lol. i will fish the lake he is talking about next winter. if there is a 17+ in there my daughter will find it eventually!
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Saratoga lake is good for jumbo perch from time to time
you got to hit it just right some years are good some not so good. I find when the lake is lowered they hit the best
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Any perch that is bigger than the average by 3 inches is a jumbo......Lake George....12 inches......Saratoga Lake.......4 inches.... ;)
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8" or less go back, too small.....9-11 are nice...12 to 14 are jumbos.......14+ are Big SOB's!!!!
-Zach
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Saratoga Lake can produce some true slobs that are over 15 inches. Occassionally you will stumble into these early in the season just off weedlines. If you find them, you will immediately be attacked by a small army of other fishermen who are not shy about drilling a hole 3 inches away from yours!
Lake George is my favorite for the biggies. Not saying anything about where! It's a big lake and they are out there somewhere between Lake George Village and Ticonderoga.
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I'd say out of the 130 or so perch I have caught this year, about 30 of them were 11"+, which in my mind are jumbos. Didn't get any over about 12.5" though.
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Ok so You didnt even see the thing at 20 inches..This is one of those Friend of a friend type stuff. Listen i believe my own eyes and that sometimes is doubtful untill a measure tape is beside it. Like i said before it sometimes really hard to guess a length of a fish. I went fishint today and thought the perch i was keeping were like 7-9 inches they were 5-7 inch ones poor guys. LOL i kept only 4 it was damm cold and i was gonna have a snack regradless. LOL Minus 21 outside minus 29 with the windchill. Dangit i hate that cold north wind!
OK.....I demand seeing the THERMOMETER dangit! Minus 21 degrees.....Faranheit?
Sorry guy, I need to see the proof!
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Based on those recorfds for perch i would have to say that the white perch gets bigger then the yellow perch. There were a few 4 pounders in the white perch sectiona and NOne for the yellow so i would have to say that if we do talk about perch size that a distinction bewteen the 2 would have to be noted for size and weight fair comparison. Thanks for doing the nosing around for the perch your doing great so far...Now just round me up that 20 incher and ill be done with it. ROFL thanks guys this is really been interesting to me.
Maybe the reason there ain't pictures of these 16-18 inch yellow perch, is that the people catching 'em don't think there is anything particularly special about them, 'cause they catch them that size all the time! he he....just stirring the pot!
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12inches or bigger
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12-14's for sure. :tipup:
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Germ,
I told you last year that I would post a pic of a 17+ inch fish that I caught. I can't seem to find the pic, and I remembered I told you I would post a pic, then totally forgot about it. I just got the fish back from the taxidermist and took a pic of it next to a ruler. (I was holding the ruler and taking the pic at the same time so it's abit awkward, but you can get a sense of the size. It was weighed on a certified scale to be 2.41 pounds and had a 14" girth. I've heard all of the stories about 18" perch and I have yet to see one either. I also caught 3 that went 15+ the same day, but only had the cash to get one mounted and I obviously chose the biggest one.
-IceGeek
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/IceGeek/perch007.jpg)
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Icegeek, that is a beautie. :o WTG :D
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Can u post a pic with your hands in it to get a Shot for some sort of comparison to sizr of girth? I means its a great big perch but beside the ruler doesnt do that BAd boy justice.........GIve us something else in the picture so We can See the giant:>:> I like to call it a "Point of COmparison.......LOL even though you have the ruler you would be surprized just how much more it makes a difference if there is a P.O.C in the pic with it:>Like a Can of Pop That sort of thing:>:> or your hand........What ever:> LOL nice fish though
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Germ,
I'll try and find something else to put in the picture with it and take a pic this year just for you! Sorry I never responded last year...I guess I never came back and checked this topic once I posted,......
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Bob,
did you catch it, where I think you got it? A real nice mount.
Pete
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Yep.....that's where I caught it. Pete, I got a really nice spot near where I caught it marked on my GPS.....got tons of really nice fish out there this past year. Maybe we can schedule a trip out there this year if it freezes good. It's out in 36 fow but I hammered the big ones every trip out there last year once I found the spot. I didn't have really good luck early in the season, but later I hit em good. I drove over the spot in my boat during open water and there is some structure that shows up on the fishfinder, so I have to believe that whatever it is...it's what's holding the fish. Also caught a 6 pound smallie on my tipdowns and a few bigger pike there last year as well......
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That is one great Perch! Nice job! :clap:
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i like germ's idea of a P.O.C. but that is an awsome perch man :o :o
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Thanks PIKEGUY!, When I pulled it through the hole I was like "DAMN!" then within 5 minutes I caught 3 more that all went 15+ inches....people say perch don't fight hard....but those guys gave me a good fight on the ultralight line....
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I fish simcoe regularly and in my opinion a jumbo is nothing under 12". !/3 of the fish are usually a jumbo.
Cheers Jeff
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The cutoff is definitely 11-13/64".
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my avatar has a 16.5'' slob perch...icegeek's got me by a hair !
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haha all this Point of Comparison and jumbo perch talk is gettin' me pumped! heres my biggest...16.5'', and one heck of a fish.
A Lake Erie jumbo! Best perch fishing anywhere...I dont think you catch em' under 11'' here. every year someone catches an 18 or 19 incher, and every so often they get even bigger. the NYS record was 3.8lbs caught there on a minnow.
(https://www.sharemation.com/JohnnyB1781/JonsPerch2.JPG?uniq=-tam8s2)
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Ya hes a big one my record for yellow perch is 14 inches
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wow thats pretty big i thought i had nice one 13.6'' :o
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wow thats pretty big i thought i had nice one 13.6'' :o
That is pretty big ;)
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yeah true true but its fun catching them :tipup:
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yeah really exciting
:o
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Yeah but they taste lousy, like any panfish or walleye I've ever tried out of Erie or Ontario. They're big but no good to eat. :sick: Until you've eaten a perch from Lake George or the finger lakes you haven't eaten perch. :D
haha you're a joke. don't tell me i haven't eaten perch. i've had seneca lake perch and bass, and hate to ruin your day, but its no different my friend.
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Here In Colorado we consider anything 12" or greater a jumbo perch. My biggest perch are almost 15".
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lake ontario certainly has her water problems, but lake erie has come a long way since the 70's. the zebra muscles cleaned that lake up A LOT, to the point where you can see bottom in 20fow. we spent a week in seneca lake a few years back and caught some bass and some perch. tasy, as expected. we come back and fish lake erie all summer, no difference b/w the two. maybe you had a bad fry or botched a recipe.
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Sorry icetrekker, I have to agree with slipbob on this one. There is a huge difference in taste betwen a Great Lakes perch and a Finger Lakes perch. I don't think either one tastes bad but the FL perch taste better. If you are comparing perch to bass (see quote below) I'd say you have no sense of taste. Bass are some of the most foul tasting fish there are. Right up there with their cousin, the carp. :)
"a few years back and caught some bass and some perch. tasy, as expected. we come back and fish lake erie all summer, no difference b/w the two."
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I've eaten my share of perch and I have to say, the lake Erie one's I ate as a kid in the 80's were by far the worse!!!! The best would be from a little lake by my house here in rural rensselaer county.
As for keeping perch. I have a personal 10" size limit. Anything over 13 I consider to be a slob..
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A jumbo white perch in my area is prob between 12-14 inches and more near 14 for the yellow
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DAM!!! :o Those are some very nice wall mounting perch way to go you guys. Wish we had those monsters in Mass.
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Sorry icetrekker, I have to agree with slipbob on this one. There is a huge difference in taste betwen a Great Lakes perch and a Finger Lakes perch. I don't think either one tastes bad but the FL perch taste better. If you are comparing perch to bass (see quote below) I'd say you have no sense of taste. Bass are some of the most foul tasting fish there are. Right up there with their cousin, the carp. :)
"a few years back and caught some bass and some perch. tasy, as expected. we come back and fish lake erie all summer, no difference b/w the two."
well to each their own...bass have a lateral line that, when removed, takes away a lot of the gamey taste. they happen to be a blast to fish for, and i have had only one bad bass fry, and it was a largey from a warm pond in late summer, not lake erie.
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DAM!!! :o Those are some very nice wall mounting perch way to go you guys. Wish we had those monsters in Mass.
you do, you just need to find them....
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Here is a few pics of what I call JUMBOS.
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/jazbassii/joes_fish_009.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/jazbassii/joes_fish_008.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/jazbassii/joes_fish_004.jpg)
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I would say soooo. What state are they from? Some people wold give there 1st. born for just 1 of them.
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Really nice fish!!
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HOLY FLAVESCENS! :o
Give us a clue, are they good tasters or bad tasters?
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PA lakes
yes they taste great.
I have caught bigger, but no pics.
I have not been able to fish my best perch lake due to ice conditions.
My best perch lake does not turn on till last week of Feb.
JAZII
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Man! i envy you Jaz11 ;D I'd give the ole left #/@* to catch that many hawgs at anytime.Way to go!
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holy lick, those are big. I am not gonna lie to ya, I am impressed.
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I consider any perch over a foot a BIG perch. My wife and I often fish solely for giant perch in several VT lakes in the winter, always fishing fairly deep and always with tip-ups and usually large goldens for bait. We have pretty good luck getting fish in the 12-16 inch class and an occasionally larger one. Our best ever was right at around 18 inches. Here's a couple photos from a couple years back, that I happen to have scanned and on file.-Jim
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/jimpaige1/Elmoreperch2.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/jimpaige1/Elmoreperch1.jpg)
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lake erie perch are jumbos.... look at the avatar! ;)
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Photo's too small to see much?
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I don't know if these are jumbos or not. This was my 1st time fishing for perch,lol. I placed the tape to show one of the smallest ones there. I think theres a ''dink'' in the pile at 12&1/2 inches.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/crappieloo/1sttimeperchin.jpg)
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TAKE ME FISHING!@
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take me fishing to
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Guys i would love too. Problem is this had nothing to do with me or any skills i have :-[
I had a expert perch fisherman put me right on a spot AND i had to use his rigs. All were caught with no bait but on plastics. Also he said that we were lucky that they were on that spot that day. I'm pretty sure i couldn't do it on my own.
One of the reasons why i dont fish perch is thet when i catch them(i dont target them) they run small 4 to 10 inches. So i dont bother with them.
BUT,(and this is a big BUT) if the dinks were 12inchers with a few slobs thrown in like that day i would be fishing them all the time. :thumbsup:
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thats a nice pile of perch. most of the time at sodus bay you can come away with a pile like that.
GOod Job
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Thats what i hear JiggerMan ;)
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2007 ICE SHANTY PERCH WINNER
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/jazbassii/P2020009.jpg)
JAZII
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Here's a good one from CT and one I got jigging this past Sunday.
(http://ctfisherman.com/data/772jumboperch.JPG)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f98/Huskybass/perch.jpg)
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ive seen some erie reds one time that were huge and a few 17s and a 15 incher but for me any perch over 12 inches is a jumbo. i still think that the smaller ones taste better but thats only because i dont catch alot of JUMBOS lol.
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nice fish..
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Germ,
I told you last year that I would post a pic of a 17+ inch fish that I caught. I can't seem to find the pic, and I remembered I told you I would post a pic, then totally forgot about it. I just got the fish back from the taxidermist and took a pic of it next to a ruler. (I was holding the ruler and taking the pic at the same time so it's abit awkward, but you can get a sense of the size. It was weighed on a certified scale to be 2.41 pounds and had a 14" girth. I've heard all of the stories about 18" perch and I have yet to see one either. I also caught 3 that went 15+ the same day, but only had the cash to get one mounted and I obviously chose the biggest one.
-IceGeek
IceGeek,
You do know that's a replica right? Did you have him paint a replica blank the same size as the fish you caught?
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CecilBaird1/perch007.jpg)
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If it is an exact replica of your fish size, good deal.
If it was my fish, I would not be perfectly happy.
Colors are close, but every perch has the same amount of vertical bars(7).
The mouth on the mount does not look like any yellow perch I have ever seen.
JAZII
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Actually it's a re-creation ;) The guy molded my fish in RTV and then cast it in fiberglass...So it's the exact same dimesions as my fish right down to the 2 missing scales. I didn't want to chance a skin mount at the time, mostly becasue I had a skin mount of a bass which was about 10 years old and falling apart... and the guy that did the perch for me does some nice fiberglass work. He asked me if he could keep the mold he made..I gladly gave him permission. At the time it was the first time I had paid for some higher end taxidermy work....since then I have dabbled in it myself and do all my own stuff. Still though, if it wasn't for my trip to his shop I probably never would have discovered doing taxidermy on my own...
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If it is an exact replica of your fish size, good deal.
If it was my fish, I would not be perfectly happy.
Colors are close, but every perch has the same amount of vertical bars(7).
The mouth on the mount does not look like any yellow perch I have ever seen.
JAZII
It looks like the taxidermist played "Pimp my Walleye". ;D
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Here's my personal best perch for length at 15".
(http://ctfisherman.com/data/14MonsterPerch-med.JPG)
I have seen heavier perch here in CT that were shorther though. Most of the real good ones here in CT run 13" to 14 3/4" and are much heavier than the one in that photo, as they are caught during the winter and are full of eggs and alewives.
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http://a690.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/120/l_502dd19048a7d3debb9032609c1495e9.jpg
I hope this works. This fish was 13". Sorry for the summer picture and no shirt. It was actually the smallest one we caught that day. I am wondering what it would look like in the winter with some "weight" on it.
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I have just read this whole thread from the start! WOW
First of all! This Germ guy is a clown!!!! Back when the first guy gave you the thread about state record fish, it was a white perch! But Germ the clown, didn't realize that all you had to do is take a second and go to YELLOW PERCH and not WHITE PERCH and would of seen the answer to his stupid threads!!! Dude- THE STATE RECORD FOR MICHIGAN IS 21 inches, caught in 1947 from Independence Lake.... Merry Christmas!!!!
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If it is an exact replica of your fish size, good deal.
If it was my fish, I would not be perfectly happy.
Colors are close, but every perch has the same amount of vertical bars(7).
The mouth on the mount does not look like any yellow perch I have ever seen.
JAZII
JAZII I respectfully disagree on the bar numbrs. Would you like to see pics of perch with more and less than 7 bars? I'd be glad to post them. Like everything in nature there are exceptions. In fact, a very knowledgable biologist friend I call Dr. Perca tells me the bar count varies depending on the part of the country they come from (strain). The mouth looks O.K. to me.
Ice Geek I wasn't knocking your fish. Nice fish! It's just that a trained eye can tell a replica (recreation) a mile away. I wasn't implying you were trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Your previous posts don't strike as the type.
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Tax,
I would like to see those pics, please. I know that any fish markings can vary. His perch might have had those markings, but the colors and markings make it look "fake". The mouth looks like a WALLEYE mouth.
If he is happy with it great! I just would not be.
JAZII
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Tax,
I would like to see those pics, please. I know that any fish markings can vary. His perch might have had those markings, but the colors and markings make it look "fake". The mouth looks like a WALLEYE mouth.
If he is happy with it great! I just would not be.
JAZII
Yes, I'm not keen on the paint job and the lack of scales on the belly, but as long as Ice Geek is happy that's what counts. I could swear I've seen that blank somewhere before though.
I repectfully disagree with him on the longevity of skin mounts too. A high quality skin mount by a good taxidermist should outlive the angler at least twice his lifetime if not longer. The perch in the glass case will last indefinitely. There is a lot of hype and propoganda on replicas. I'll take the real thing anyday.
I had offers to mold my perch and give me a free blank. Trouble was the molding process would have cooked the skin. No thank you! I wouldn't have been able to mount it myself.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CecilBaird1/per.jpg)
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JAZII I respectfully disagree on the bar numbrs. Would you like to see pics of perch with more and less than 7 bars? I'd be glad to post them. Like everything in nature there are exceptions. In fact, a very knowledgable biologist friend I call Dr. Perca tells me the bar count varies depending on the part of the country they come from (strain). The mouth looks O.K. to me.
Ice Geek I wasn't knocking your fish. Nice fish! It's just that a trained eye can tell a replica (recreation) a mile away. I wasn't implying you were trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Your previous posts don't strike as the type.
Thanks Tax...I knew you didn't think I was. Just wanted to clarify that it was a re-creation and not a skin mount. Anyways if anyone is interested, the fingerlakes hold some huge perch. It's not uncommon to catch 15 inchers in the fall when fishing in 80-100 feet of water for lakers on 4-5 inch alewives. I caught 2 that were puching 16 inches in one outing a few years back...they pretty much have no air bladder once you bring em up from those depths and they were destined for the frying pan. Now that I have started doing a bit of my own taxidermy, I wish I had those 2 back!
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Yes, I'm not keen on the paint job and the lack of scales on the belly, but as long as Ice Geek is happy that's what counts. I could swear I've seen that blank somewhere before though.
I repectfully disagree with him on the longevity of skin mounts too. A high quality skin mount by a good taxidermist should outlive the angler at least twice his lifetime if not longer. The perch in the glass case will last indefinitely. There is a lot of hype and propoganda on replicas. I'll take the real thing anyday.
I had offers to mold my perch and give me a free blank. Trouble was the molding process would have cooked the skin. No thank you! I wouldn't have been able to mount it myself.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CecilBaird1/per.jpg)
Yes, that is "one perch" with more than 7 bars.(random variations) Show me a pile of perch and lets see how many would be like that.
TAX,
PM me about the cost of a mount like yours in the glass box! I like it, big time! IT IS AWSOME!
JAZII
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Yes, that is "one perch" with more than 7 bars.(random variations) Show me a pile of perch and lets see how many would be like that.
TAX,
PM me about the cost of a mount like yours in the glass box! I like it, big time! IT IS AWSOME!
JAZII
jazzII,
I said there are exceptions. ;D Like Perca says I didn't say it was common. You said they ALL have seven bars remember? ;)
Here's what a perch expert I know had to say about the bars. I removed the names as I didn't ask them if they minded if I post this.
Cecil,
As always it all depends.
1. Depends on what you call a main vertical bar. I've seen some where I counted 8 and infrequently 9. I am usually watching for this feature on YP since I was taught about it from ****, I mention next. **** started the genetic stock that **** and ****grow.
2. The guy ****that taught / told me about it said the numbers of vertical bars will vary depending on what region of the US the fish come from. I've mentioned this before on the forum. You read my posts too quickly. The YP from MN will often have 3-5 bars. Those fish can frequently be more grayish and tend to be slower growing than the Lk Erie strain 5-7 bands. There is also a Carolina strain that tends to be smaller max size than Lk Erie strain. **** suspected that there was also an Iowa and Deleware strain of YP. These strains probably do not have not much difference among them and are probably some form of geographic strains. This strain business of YP is what that current research at Ohio's Piketon OSU fish facility is all about. They are selectively breeding the strains to see if they can produce a faster growing perch for the food market. **** and **** agreed to help Piketon raise some of the first generation of the cross of YP strains. **** can tell you more about it if you (we) think to ask about the topic when you (we) get his larger perch this spring.
I do think there is a difference in numbers of vertical bars on YP. I have seen a fair amount of it (5-9) since I am always looking for it for the past 20 yrs.
I posted the cost to you in the monster perch post -- $500.00. Glass cube would have to be done at your end at your cost. Shipping glass like that would be a disaster waiting to happen.
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Tax....it's possible that blank is out there now, as I did give the guy permission to use make numerous casts from the mold...At the time I was really happy with the mount, and to tell you the truth, if it wasn;t for that mount I wouldn't be dabbling in taxidermy today, so from that respect I am happy. Personally, I know I am capable of a better job myself now so I can take some solace in that fact. Anyways, I just snapped a couple a photos for JAZII so that he can see that indeed it is a perch mouth and not a walleye mouth...it may have just been the angle I was holding the camera at or something. God, I feel like I am having to defend the fact that I caught a perch bigger than most people have ever seen....
mouth shots..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/IceGeek/perch3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/IceGeek/perch2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/IceGeek/perch1.jpg)
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IceGeek,
There is a lot of responsibility with catching a big fish. Lots of folks want to discredit you. Look what happens whenever a record deer or fish is taken. Been there done that with the perch in my avatar. It got so bad with my perch on a fishing website that they had to kick off a guy that was threatening me. He was threatening to come to my house and kick my ***. Of course it didn't help he said he caught a 15 inch bluegill but never took a picture, and I say I think it's hooey unless I see a picture! ;D
Could you PM me the guy that did your recreation? I'm curious if I know him. I know lots of taxidermists in New York. I promise not to say anything to anyone. Just curious to see if I know him.
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Having looked at all the measurements in this thread,especially the photos of fish against a tape.Everyone of these fish would measure a half inch to full inch longer,if they were properly measured. Properly being the tail fin squeezed to a point,measuring on a cradle style board is also a hell of alot more accurate then a steel tape. Not to mention the above method is how fish are measured by wardens and biologists.
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Having looked at all the measurements in this thread,especially the photos of fish against a tape.Everyone of these fish would measure a half inch to full inch longer,if they were properly measured. Properly being the tail fin squeezed to a point,measuring on a cradle style board is also a hell of alot more accurate then a steel tape. Not to mention the above method is how fish are measured by wardens and biologists.
Laying a tape under the fish or beside it is pretty darn close compared to laying a tape on top of a fish where the tape gains length by the curvature of the tape produced by the curvature of the fish. Just for the record my fish was measured on a board. It has a tape laying next to it to show the length.
From my experience boards produce a shorter length not a longer one for the reason given above.
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No,you are aren't getting a shorter reading off of a board.You're getting a true reading,because there's no way to cheat.If the snout of fish is touching the end of the board stop and the tail is measured to the point,thats the actual measurement and thats how biologists and anyone else that actually records accurate fish growth measures them.
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No,you are aren't getting a shorter reading off of a board.You're getting a true reading,because there's no way to cheat.If the snout of fish is touching the end of the board stop and the tail is measured to the point,thats the actual measurement and thats how biologists and anyone else that actually records accurate fish growth measures them.
Actually in retrospect I think we are saying the same thing sledder. When I said "shorter" for the measuring board, what I meant is shorter than if by using a tape measure over the top. (Measuring using a tape mesure over the top of the fish gets you a false longer measurement.) So yes the board measurement is the "true" measurement but will be shorter than if a tape is placed on top of the fish.
Are we good? ;)
BTW I have a fisheries degree and have worked in the field. Done my share of measuring fish to the nearest millimeter until I was sick of it. ::)
Here's a board I built myself out of a PVC pipe cut in half. I use it regularly along with my certified scale for my fish sales.
See:
http://www.ligtel.com/~jjbaird/bairdfish2.htm
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CecilBaird1/yellowperch003.jpg)
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Tax,
Been away on business and just got back in town tonight....I'll PM you the info as soon as I dig it up.
-Bob
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Yes, that is "one perch" with more than 7 bars.(random variations) Show me a pile of perch and lets see how many would be like that.
JazII,
Here is a picture of a couple of perch with 2 of them having 8 bars. They are outlined in red and numbered. Also look back to page 11 Jim111's post and Icetrekker17's post on page 9. The perch in Jim111's right hand has 8 bars. The picture below in that same post, shows a perch that also has 8 bars. In Icetrekker17's post, the perch has 8 possibly nine bars. I do agree the majority of the perch population has 7 bars but not all of them like stated earlier.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/GAMBELL/PERCHBARS.jpg)
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And another perch with less than 7 stripes. Look at the top perch in this picture. It only has 5 stripes.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/GAMBELL/honeoyegill.jpg)
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anything over 11" is good for me, i always fillet my own perch, i think they taste better when you do. my record is 13" 2.5 lbs
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And another perch with less than 7 stripes. Look at the top perch in this picture. It only has 5 stripes.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/GAMBELL/honeoyegill.jpg)
I think we need to do a check on quality control. Someone isn't painting all those bars in! :D