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Re: Grannis
« Reply #30 on: Feb 06, 2007, 08:45 PM »
I signed it!
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #31 on: Feb 06, 2007, 08:49 PM »
#84  Spread this to other forums ! Great idea ! Thank you !

I posted it here : http://nybass.com/showthread.php?t=20236


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Re: Grannis
« Reply #32 on: Feb 06, 2007, 09:03 PM »
I signed it. Going to send it to everyone I know mow. Lets get those emails sent out.

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Re: Grannis
« Reply #33 on: Feb 07, 2007, 12:09 AM »
Not to sound over bearing but lets get this on our email contacts list and plead with all of our friends to sign it as well. We need our voices to be heard by the Gov and his colleagues. Lets get the total signatures up there. This is something I think we all should feel strongly about or we are going to loose the right to enjoy the outdoors.
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #34 on: Feb 07, 2007, 12:36 AM »
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #35 on: Feb 07, 2007, 05:34 AM »
Let's go people, I'm 111.

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« Reply #36 on: Feb 07, 2007, 06:29 AM »
signed it this morning..

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Re: Grannis
« Reply #37 on: Feb 07, 2007, 06:40 AM »
done
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #38 on: Feb 07, 2007, 07:26 AM »
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #39 on: Feb 07, 2007, 07:39 AM »
I just signed it.
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #40 on: Feb 07, 2007, 07:46 AM »
Signed it #135

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Re: Grannis
« Reply #41 on: Feb 07, 2007, 07:52 AM »
Keep it going fellow sportsmen and women!

I have sent this onto the NYSCC (the link to the petition) as well.

As an FYI, here is a communication I received this morning.  Gotta get busy.  I am trying to find out the timing of the vote in the Senate.  There are several key Senators on record for supporting this guy.  We also have several key Senators on record as opposing this guy.  Anyhow, here is the email I received.  It's lengthy, but is packed with insight.  Good read...  I hope it all fits in this post ;D

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Written by Paul Russin of Holley ,NY.
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>
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>Venerable Senators and Assemblymen, Governor Spitzer, AG Andrew
>Cuomo, Pastors, Ministers, Editors, sportsmen and women, gun clubs,
>and others to whom it may concern:
>
>It has come to my attention that Governor Spitzer has proposed that
>Pete Grannis be the new DEC commissioner. While laudable that Gov.
>Spitzer would like to protect the environment, the many bills
>proposed by Mr. Grannis show his unlikely aptitude at this
>appointment. Further, his bills which would ban trapping (A 3009)
>facilitate lawsuits against hunters (A 3006)
>
>One prominent pro-gun person, Keith Kappel, Yates County SCOPE
>President, stated, "He would usurp the authority of the DEC to
>administer scientifically based regulations by enabling
>municipalities to enact their own more stringent regulations thereby
>creating a hodgepodge of laws across the state (A3009)."
>
>This is essentially what has occurred within the anti-gun cities,
>and counties. Monroe County has prohibited firearms, knives, and
>anything else they deem dangerous, and declared them off limits in
>various city and county venues, including county parks where deer
>populations have required the taking of that wild game, at the cost
>of tens of thousands of dollars, by sharpshooters (primarily local
>Law Enforcement Officer's on overtime). Many sportsmen and women
>could have been doing the very same thing without being paid if they
>could have proved their proficiency through some state agency, or if
>they were licensed hunters. In fact, now some of this is done by bow
>hunters.
>
>Further, these policies have endangered the public. The large
>antlered deer, and perhaps the overpopulation in these county parks
>has prompted some poachers to remove these deer illegally. In one
>instance, a crossbow was set up in a booby trap manner in the
>Irondequoit Park. This could have resulted in the death, or serious
>injury, of someone in that park, perhaps even a young child. This
>was reported to me by my Uncle Ron Michalko. I am under the
>impression that this was called into the police.
>
>Also, Northampton Park's (western Monroe County) deer numbers are
>notorious. A portion of Colby Street which borders the park, in the
>Town of Sweden, sees regular deer crossings with countless deer
>struck accidents. In some instances I have personally witnessed
>between 20 and 40 deer and more in this one field across from the
>park. Also, the Brockport Airport is issued DEC permits for year
>around taking of deer which come by the dozens to feed in that area,
>and almost nightly. Very few people are using the park during these
>months, yet the law prohibits the taking of firearms, bows, knives,
>etc. into the park, virtually denying the hunter his part in the use
>of these parks, a situation that would be decried if it was a black
>family being denied access because of their skin color. Apparently
>it is all right to discriminate against gun owner's in our current
>society. It is most likely the liberal communist establishment feels
>this type of discrimination is fine as it fits their proposed agenda
>of destroying hunting and gun ownership in NYS.
>
>Mr. Kappel, continues in his email to another member of the SCOPE
>yahoo e-group, "Apart from that, other bills this person (Ass.
>Grannies) has introduced depict a mindset of fiddling while NY
>burns. A legislator who spends his time concerned about release of
>helium filled balloons, and whether (or not--PRusin) people can view
>the Milky Way because of light pollution, is not a mature and clear
>thinker, and not one I would trust in charge of the DEC. A person
>who would spend NY dollars to research the affect of global warming
>on the state, who would require insurance companies to invest their
>profits in underserved neighborhoods, who would adopt a regulatory
>system to achieve sustainable development is problematic to say the
>least. Putting this person in charge of the DEC risks misdirecting
>the monies we sportspeople pay through taxes, licenses and fees. We
>risk having these monies used against us. No hunting means no
>firearms." (italics, bold, underline mine--PRusin
>
>Mr. Kappel writes, also, "As I read some of these bills they greatly
>expand the power of the state over private property, facilitate
>lawsuits against hunting--even farming--on animal cruelty grounds,
>force the private sector to accept (the premise of?) man induced
>global warming, fund creation of sustainable development concepts,
>redistribute wealth to underserved neighborhoods, facilitate
>environmental lawsuits and generally expand the power of the state
>to run roughshod over the private sector...New Yorkers Against Gun
>Violence, a prominent anti gun group, rates him 100%."
>
>Besides that, Ass. Grannis has an F rating with SCOPE, NYSR&P, and
>NRA. We do not need someone being head of DEC who comes from a
>background which would necessarily discriminate against hunters, and
>gun owners. These ratings are noted here:
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>http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=BS022281&type=category&category=Gun%2BIssues&go.x=14&go.y=11
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>In regards Wildlife and Environmental Issues the website notes of
>Ass. Grannis, "2003-2004 On the votes that the Humane Society of New
>York considered to be the most important in 2003-2004,
>Assemblymember Grannis voted their preferred position 100 percent of
>the time." On Civil Liberties, "1997 On the votes that the New York
>Civil Liberties Union considered to be the most important in 1997,
>Assemblymember Grannis voted their preferred position 100 percent of
>the time."
>
>On Environmental Issues, 1998-2006 Assemblymember Grannis supported
>the interests of the EPL-Environmental Advocates 100 percent in
>2006. (He received no rating in that time under 96%). On Liberal
>Issues, 1996 Assemblymember Grannis supported the interests of the
>New York City Americans for Democratic Action 91 percent in 1996.
>Note this in regards the NYC ADA: "Americans for Democratic Action
>is an independent liberal political organization, founded in 1947
>and dedicated to promoting individual liberty and economic justice."
>Sounds like a socialism oriented group to me. Besides that, the two,
>"promoting individual liberty and economic justice" seem at odds
>with one another as promotion of individual liberty cannot mesh with
>promoting economic justice. Both are at opposite spectrums on the
>political scale. At one end is individual freedom, while at the
>opposite end is socialist inspired laws which limit the ability to
>operate in a free(dom) enterprise manner.
>
>
>
>Wikipedia says of Alexander "Pete" Grannis, Alexander Pete Grannis
>represents District 65 in the New York State Assembly, which is
>comprised primarily of the Upper East Side of Manhattan and
>Roosevelt Island. (What does someone from this area know of western
>NY politics, environmental, hunting, trapping, fishing and other
>outdoor sports issues? Can someone from such an area be inspired
>towards environmental radicalism simply because of where they
>reside? If so, wouldn't someone from western, or upstate NY,
>preferably someone with a hunting, trapping, fishing, hiking,
>camping, and other outdoor pursuits background be a more likely, and
>much more likable candidate? Ass. Grannis doesn't seem to fit this
>bill.--PRusin)
>
>First elected in 1974, Grannis currently serves as Chairman of the
>Insurance Committee in the Assembly, and is a member of several
>other standing commmittees. In his capacity as Chairman he claims
>responsibility for authoring New York State's Community Rating/Open
>Enrollment law as well as the 1996 Managed Care Consumer Protection
>Act.
>
>Other notable pieces of legislation Grannis claims responsibility
>for are New York State's Clean Indoor Air Act, which severely
>restricted tobacco/cigarette use within public buildings, and the
>Adolescent Tobacco Use Prevention Act. (What radical limits might he
>promote for sportsmen as head of NYS DEC?--PRusin)
>
>He served for a decade as Chairman of the Assembly Housing
>Committee. (Which makes him a good candidate for DEC Commissioner,
>why?--PRusin)
>
>As you can see, the majority of his causes lean toward radical
>elitist environmentalism, including indoor air pollution? Is this
>someone we wish part, and parcel, of the DEC which oversees the
>whole of the hunting, trapping and fishing community? Could his
>leadership in this venerable organization, Department of
>Environmental Conservation, be detrimental to its very purpose given
>Ass. Grannis radical views? Could the agenda be such that Ass.
>Grannis would seek to destroy what the hunting, trapping, and
>fishing community have done so far in regards DEC sports activities,
>and conservation, within NYS? Would his nomination be tendered so as
>to rework the commission so that its motivation becomes: 1) radical
>environmentalism, 2) anti-hunting, trapping, and fishing sports
>oriented and 3) anti-gun causes, given what we know of Ass, Grannis
>past voting record, and bill submissions? Could this be the start of
>the de-commissioning of the DEC? Could the agency be so
>reworked--people hired who are anti-gun, anti-hunting,
>anti-trapping, anti-fishing, firing of those who are in favor of
>these sports--so as to detrimentally change the nature, status, and
>purpose of the DEC to fit the radical agenda of the leftist,
>anti-gun Governor Spitzer, and NYS Attorney General Andrew Cuomo?
>
>    But, let us continue with a history of Conservation.
>Conservation, the radicalized version we know today, didn't start
>with radical environmentalists, but instead with hunters, trappers,
>and fishermen whose sport(s) was/were being decimated by non-sport
>market hunters. Further, habitat was being displaced for many
>wildlife species to the detriment of those species. Today, in NYS,
>we have replaced these populations, and in many areas the wildlife
>has become so prolific they are overpopulating their habitat. NYS
>has returned deer, turkey, otter, beaver, moose, bear, and other
>wildlife populations to almost mimic their numbers prior to European
>encroachment on this continent. Further, habitat has been restored,
>State Parks commissioned (Adirondack, Alleghany forest preserves,
>among others), etc. it would be a shame to destroy all the hunting,
>fishing, trapping, and shooting communities have worked so hard to
>accomplish. Could gun clubs be closed due to bogus, unscientific
>lead poisoning determinations with such a liberal commissioner in
>place?
>
>Persons like former NYS Governor, and U.S. President, Theodore
>Roosevelt, John Muir, Gifford Pinchot, to some extent, "Buffalo
>Bill" Cody, through his Wild West Show, were founders of this
>environmentalist approach which included conservation of wildlife
>habitat, and restrictions on hunting of various species. This, and
>more, is detailed in the book "American Sportsmen and the Origins of
>Conservation," by John F. Reiger.
>
>In the dust jacket of his book, Reiger notes: "One of the most
>important misconceptions is that no conservation movement existed
>until the 20th century.during the Roosevelt presidency.from
>1901-1909...but they were not the group that originated the movement
>(emphasis mine) in the 1870's. American sportsmen, those who hunted
>and fished for pleasure.were the real spearhead of conservation."
>(underlining is my emphasis--Prusin) I might note that the National
>Rifle Association membership has played a distinct role in this
>movement, as well--though not well admired, nor would it be
>admitted, in liberal circles.
>
>It would be a shame if what outdoor sportsman initiated was run
>roughshod over by radical environmentalists, and Ass. Grannis
>appears to be one of these given his Assembly legislative
>background.
>
>Reiger's dust jacket continues, "John Reiger's words may be a
>startling declaration; they may, in fact, be fighting words. It has
>become fashionable for armchair ecologists to vilify sportsmen as
>wastrels and wildlife destroyers who care nothing about the
>environment. The truth is that sportsmen--especially
>hunters--initiated the modern conservation movement and continue to
>be its most important supporters and activists." (again, bold
>emphasis mine--PRusin)
>
>Therefore, it would also be a shame if someone of Ass. Grannis
>status, and radical beliefs, became head of such a venerable,
>concerned, hunting, trapping, and fishing oriented, sportsman
>license fee sponsored, and longstanding, organization as the NYS
>Department of Environmental Conservation. Let us hope that the NYS
>legislature votes against Ass. Grannis accordingly. Hopefully, the
>pro-gun, pro-hunting community will remain ever vigilant, ever
>watchful of what is going on within NYS.
>
>
>Paul Rusin
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>2261 County Line Rd.
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>Holley, NY
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>585-659-8335
>
>Life member: NYSR&P, SCOPE, NRA, GOA


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Re: Grannis
« Reply #42 on: Feb 07, 2007, 08:08 AM »
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« Reply #43 on: Feb 07, 2007, 09:35 AM »
ttt
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #44 on: Feb 07, 2007, 11:51 AM »
OK fellow sportsmen and sportswomen...we are getting the signatures now!...179...but we need a whole lot more...if you believe in this effort..tell all of the people you know to sign it. I posted it on a bulletin on myspace...ive contacted the media...ive emailed ppl....just pass the word!
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #45 on: Feb 07, 2007, 12:03 PM »
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #46 on: Feb 07, 2007, 12:11 PM »
Fred LeBrun of the Albany Times Union is looking for input from sportsmen on Grannis.

Here's his contact info:
LeBrun can be reached at (518) 454-5453 or by e-mail at [email protected].

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Re: Grannis
« Reply #47 on: Feb 07, 2007, 12:17 PM »
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #48 on: Feb 07, 2007, 12:30 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: Feb 07, 2007, 12:43 PM »
210!
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« Reply #50 on: Feb 07, 2007, 01:44 PM »
Keep it up, guys.  Keep getting the word out!  We are having an affect, and I have found out that both NYSRPA and SCOPE have now joined this movement, and it is a true grass roots movement gaining a ton of speed and momentum. 

Spitzer has yet to call for a confirmation of nominees, which means we still have some time.  It would be a very good idea to start making phone calls to your Senators and speak with them directly.

I wouldn't expect a ton of fighting to come from NYSCC.  I've been back and forth with Mr. John all day.  Politics are brutal in Albany.

Nevertheless, We have some seriously strong players now joining the fight.  Here is what I have received from NYSRPA:

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News from NYS Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. (NRA)

For more information: Tom King (day) 518-436-0161, (evening/weekend)
518-479-3396, [email protected]

New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Opposes Nomination of Pete
Grannis to Head Department of Environmental Conservation

TROY, NY -- (02/06/2007; 1521)(EIS) -- When it was announced that
Governor Eliot Spitzer would appointment a new director for the
Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) the New York State
Rifle & Pistol Association anticipated a nominee with a background in
a field such as environmental science, biology or habitat management.
Moreover, the NYSRPA looked forward to working with a man or woman
sympathetic to the rights and needs of New York's hunters, trappers
and shooters -- someone prepared to provide stewardship of New York
State lands for all New Yorkers.

The Governor's nominee, Alexander "Pete" Grannis, possesses none of
these qualifications. He is a lawyer and long-time State Assembly
member with little experience in any field related to the DEC's
mission. His record in Albany has been one of consistent hostility
toward New York's hunters and shooters:

-- Sponsored and voted for numerous bills designed to restrict
firearms ownership and usage among law-abiding New Yorkers,
consistently siding with anti-gun organizations such as New Yorkers
Against Gun Violence.

-- Sponsored vaguely-worded legislation in the past (A-1850) that
would have effectively banned hunting as cruelty to animals.

-- Repeatedly honored and endorsed by anti-hunting organizations
including the ASPCA and the League of Humane Voters.

-- Currently sponsors legislation (A-3009) giving municipalities the
authority to ban trapping -- an abdication of the State's obligation
to oversee these activities, and one that would create a crazy-quilt
of local laws and regulations.

The NYSRPA urges all New Yorkers to contact their State Senators and
ask them to block the appointment of Pete Grannis to head the
Department of Environmental Conservation.

http://blogs.nydailynews.com/dailypolitics/archives/2007/02/with_enemies_li.php

With enemies like these ...

The Daily News' Joe Mahoney writes:

Gov. Spitzer's nominee to be environmental conservation commissioner,
Manhattan Assemblyman Alexander (Pete) Grannis, finds himself in the
crosshairs of the National Rifle Association. The New York State
Rifle and Pistol Association, an NRA affiliate, just blast-emailed a
statement slamming Grannis for being, in its view, on the wrong side
of too many issues. In short, the NRA stated: "His record in Albany
has been one of consistent hostility toward New York's hunters and shooters."

The pro-gun group notes Grannis is also sponsoring legislation giving
localities authority to ban trapping. The association complains that
Grannis has been "repeatedly honored and endorsed by anti-hunting
organizations including the ASPCA and the League of Humane Voters."

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Re: Grannis
« Reply #51 on: Feb 07, 2007, 02:06 PM »
signed it.  I actually heard about the online petition from a snowmobiler.  Word is getting out.

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« Reply #52 on: Feb 07, 2007, 02:17 PM »
signed it.  I actually heard about the online petition from a snowmobiler.  Word is getting out.
That is outstanding news!  I'll have to hit the snowmobile sites. 

This is a full-blown movement now, folks.  Let's keep it going!!!!!
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #53 on: Feb 07, 2007, 02:21 PM »
238!!

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Re: Grannis
« Reply #54 on: Feb 07, 2007, 03:43 PM »
I'm in at 259.  like I said before, I'm not from NY but who knows what this clown could "undo" regarding lake champlain--our states took a long time to get on the same page about a number of things.  It's finally happening and some disconnected, incumbent, suck on the teat-of-the-public lawmaker type could derail our mutual efforts.  I hope he goes down in flames.

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« Reply #55 on: Feb 07, 2007, 03:48 PM »
Just signed it. Please everyone from NY sign this and send a letter to your senator. This is extremely serious and needed.
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #56 on: Feb 07, 2007, 03:51 PM »
265 and how could he possibly know what we want to do up here?? Hes from the city noticed that in the paper last week and it didnt sit right.
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« Reply #57 on: Feb 07, 2007, 06:59 PM »
I am 309 and sent my letter to my senator and I am still waiting a reply. It has been a week.
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Re: Grannis
« Reply #58 on: Feb 07, 2007, 07:14 PM »
Not only is he from the "city" but he represents "UPPER Manhattan"  :sick: where I come from that sure aint anywhere close to UPSTATE....  doubt he even knows how to get out of the city.

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« Reply #59 on: Feb 07, 2007, 07:16 PM »
I was #62 I believe,I also emailed Senator Defrancisco!

 



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