I used a Giant Chubby Darter last year to retrieve the resort owners chisel. It was about straight down from where I was sitting with the rope off to the side. For my decoy line I have several feet of 20lb floro and the rest of the spool with tipup line. The Giant Chubby darter will wobble straight up on the rise and dart straight forward with complete sack in the line, but you can get it to go in a circle if you provide some pressure on the fall. I was getting bored not seeing anything so I decided to lay down on the floor and go to work trying to hook the rope on the end of the bar. Within an hour I was able to hook it and pull it up. I had taken the hooks off originally for just decoying, and had put on a small willow-leaf blade with a spinner on the tail. I put the center hook back on so I could snag the rope.