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Left over roaches and suckers
Coachkwj:
https://www.trianglesports.biz/services.html
http://www.fishtechmg.com/
http://parkbaitshop.com/
3 baitshops local to me.
Check bait menus.
All sell roaches. None sell shiners.
As I said, in northern Illinois and southern Wisconsin they are called roaches, thats all.
Not trying to pick a fight.
Coachkwj:
Looks like you are looking at actual roaches, not golden roach minnows, which are a sought after sportfish in Europe.
Having become an avid carp angler I have seen alot of gear tailored towards roaches sold in European tackle shops.
Google roach fishing. Pretty popular across the pond.
https://www.anglingtimes.co.uk/advice/species/british-freshwater-fish/articles/Roach.
Plenty of videos also.
Whatever anyone chooses to call them, and it could be a local thing, golden roaches or shiners catch pike. Bass too!
Sounds like I need to keep them colder.
Never had any issues with my tropical fish but have tried keeping bluegill, perch, even tiny pike. Non of the non tropical fish last too long.
Thanks for the info. I'll try putting ice in the water regularly and see what happens.
Kevin23:
You know what it is.. your shops are relabeling golden shiners as "golden roaches". There is no such fish as a golden roach. That's where the confusion is coming in.
Rebelss:
--- Quote from: Snitch#8 on Jan 27, 2021, 12:09 PM ---I usually use a pipe, so I don't have left over roaches!
--- End quote ---
And here I thought "Golden Roaches" was a new Cheech and Chong movie! :woot:
Rebelss:
I always thought golden roach was just another name for a golden shiner.....like with many fish. ::)
Golden Shiner (Notemigonus crysoleucas)
The golden shiner is a prominent and widespread minnow of the Cyprinidae family. These fish are important forage species for predators and are widely used in various sizes as bait by anglers.
Identification
The golden shiner has a deep, compressed body that is generally golden yellow or brass colored in turbid water, varying to more silvery in clear water. The fins are yellow green but become reddish in large spawning adults. The mouth is small and upturned with a slightly pointed snout, and there is a distinctive fleshy, scaleless keel along the belly from the pelvic to the anal fin.
The dusky lateral line of the golden shiner noticeably dips down in the middle of the body, and the caudal fin is moderately forked. The color of the fins is more pronounced during breeding season; the breeding male develops fine tubercles on the dorsal surface of the head and the body. The golden shiner has 7 to 9 dorsal rays and 8 to 19 anal rays.
Size/Age
Golden shiners can grow to 10.5 to 12 inches in length, although the average size varies with the environment. Many northerly waters are likely to produce smaller fish on average, and 3 to 5 inches is the norm in many places. These fish reportedly live for up to 10 years.
Spawning behavior
Golden shiners reach sexual maturity in their second year when they are usually 2.5 to 3.5 inches long, and spawn over an extended period, commencing in the spring when water temperatures exceed 68°F. They do not prepare nests, as many other shiners and minnows do; rather, they scatter adhesive eggs over algae and other aquatic vegetation and do not exhibit parental care.
Food
The food of golden shiners consists of plankton, algae, insects, and small fish; they feed in midwater and at or near the surface.
Other Names
roach, golden roach, shad roach, shiner, pond shiner.
Distribution
This species is widely distributed east of the Rockies in the central and eastern United States, ranging from Quebec to Saskatchewan in the north, and to Florida, Texas, and Mexico in the south. It has been introduced elsewhere, including Arizona, California, and Washington.
Habitat
Slow-water fish, golden shiners are prevalent in lakes, ponds, backwaters, and the slower parts of streams and small to medium rivers. They are common in weedy, clean, quiet, and shallow waters.
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