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Offline PerchAssault

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For two years in a row now, we have been denied a permit to hold an event in Region 4.  Last year Lake Frances, this year Canyon Ferry.

I worked closely with the biologist for Canyon Ferry in opening a dialogue about this event.  I adjusted some rules and asked them to please include me in any concerns they may have, so we could see if a compromise could be reached.  Instead, just like last year, it was a blanket denial.

The reasons this year included…
The lowest perch numbers they have seen in the netting surveys to date.  (Same reason they stated for Frances). Even though they have instituted a 15 fish limit, they haven’t seen the numbers come back.  I reminded the “manager” that we voluntary limited the bag limit to FIVE fish, 1/3 of the daily limit. I also reminded him that we were encouraging live release of the fish after the weigh in, as well as releasing all smaller fish. His response was that while that was true, they were worried that many of the fish would be pulled from deeper water and the mortality would be too high.

I reminded him that we requested that we could put boundaries on the lake to avoid areas of concern, and that many anglers are experienced anglers and know how to play fish…that we could reduce this mortality, certainly more than during less regulated events..

Another concern was that the “management plan” for CF states “only one perch derby for the month of January”.  I stated that that had no bearing, that we requested a date in FEBRUARY.  The response was that… ‘While that was how it was written, the spirit of the plan was to limit it to one derby during the winter…’  So, we can’t really depend on a “management plan” to regulate, when it can be interpreted on its “spirit and intent”…by whoever wants to.

I specifically asked this manager that if all these lakes have such little perch numbers, and they are managing perch in most of these lakes to feed walleye and pike, then maybe it was time to institute a state wide perch limit…I got no real response.

Bottom line is this, unless we want to have a Perch Assault in some out of the way place, with no parking, no hotels, no restaurants etc. within 50-75 miles, I don’t think we will get a tournament in Region 4 approved by Helena, at least in this current environment.

I am extremely thankful for our fisheries manager here in Region 1 who has worked with me for 8 years now in allowing us to produce (arguably) the finest tournament series in Montana.  If you want to participate in a Perch Assault, you will still need to come west...

Mike Howe
Director, Perch Assault
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Offline Todd_NE

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Re: ***DENIED*** Perch Assault at Canyon Ferry ***DENIED***
« Reply #1 on: Sep 25, 2012, 03:45 PM »
Sounds like a call to some State Reps and the Governor (whoever is sportsman friendly).  I can't for the life of me see how a tourney permit can be denied when you are 1/3 the bag limit in a cold weather month.

What is the penalty if you have it anyway? Sometimes it is good to go against the man to prove a larger point, it can blow up in your face too... 

I would think a lot of sporting groups would see this as "creep" against Sportsmen's rights.  If regular joe can fish all he wants but a tourney is 2/3 more restrictive can't... seems crazy.

Can you have a "paper" or "photo" C & R tourney at the hole?

Totally Bogus. Hope you make it work.  :tipup: ;)

Offline BackCountry Kyle

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Re: ***DENIED*** Perch Assault at Canyon Ferry ***DENIED***
« Reply #2 on: Sep 25, 2012, 08:20 PM »
WOW! This is manure. They feed us this crap over and over again! So what is the biggest turnout ever for a Perch Assault? Well if you had the last year's turnout of 37 teams, 74 individuals, at 5 perch a piece.... that would be less perch on the ice than 25 anglers taking home 15 perch a piece..... HOW many days are there at least 25 people out on CF targeting perch?!!!  The answer is A LOT.... This really disappoints me... I was looking forward to this and I'm not the only one from the SouthWest either.  That fish contest on Hebgen faces the same deal with trying to get 1 brown in the bag. The biologists say no and it is so. Any day I can go keep 5 browns but for the fishing contest it would be too detrimental to even add a single brown, as 1 of the 6 fish a team of 2 can enter. Come on Helena! And that "one tourney per winter" garbage....  >:(

Keep fighting the good fight Mike  :tipup:

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Re: ***DENIED*** Perch Assault at Canyon Ferry ***DENIED***
« Reply #3 on: Sep 25, 2012, 08:28 PM »
Thanks Kyle...and I REALLY wanted this event to be the weekend after the NAIFC to showcase TWO awesome Montana tournaments to a lot of out of state ice anglers...

Your comments are right on the money.

Mike
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Re: ***DENIED*** Perch Assault at Canyon Ferry ***DENIED***
« Reply #4 on: Oct 03, 2012, 02:17 PM »
Justification and logical thinking all make sense....

...this is political in nature(oxymoron) and never makes sense!

 



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