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Title: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: vt-jig on Feb 15, 2021, 09:15 PM
Was shown some really nice pics of some guys monster pike outta Colchester pond.  Looked like his young fishing buddy had a nice keeper as well.  Anybody know the story? Fish that big always have a cool story  ;D ???
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: Light liner on Feb 15, 2021, 09:19 PM
Surprised any thing that old is still alive in that pond.

Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: Boatless in BTV on Feb 16, 2021, 12:32 AM
The Facebook post says it was 40 inches and 20.3 pounds.  A definite beast.

And with the amount of fishing pressure there, that really is an amazing fish. I was there Sunday, too, and the biggest one I caught was 19 inches. That's a snack for a beast like that.

Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: Neksportsman850 on Feb 16, 2021, 06:36 AM
Crazy how everyone is amazed a fish like that came out of the lake. I saw the post, even the guy who caught it was amazed. My question... why keep it, if it was such an amazing catch?
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: dbldnii on Feb 16, 2021, 08:10 AM
yeah no reason to keep big ones like that from Colchester Pond.  its a great fishery for beginners and that is a trophy catch.  I hope eating it was really worth it.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: the_doctor on Feb 16, 2021, 11:50 AM
*kicks hornet's nest*
That place should go 100% catch and release for a few years and then switch to some special regulations.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: fishingidjit on Feb 16, 2021, 11:53 AM
Maybe the guy wants to have it mounted or eat it  etc. He caught it and he can do with the fish as he wishes, if you like C&R that is fine but he didn't and so be it! ;)
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: the_doctor on Feb 16, 2021, 12:02 PM
Maybe the guy wants to have it mounted or eat it  etc. He caught it and he can do with the fish as he wishes, if you like C&R that is fine but he didn't and so be it! ;)

True, it's his right to keep that fish and by the book no one did anything wrong. I keep plenty of fish and don't mind others doing so. But that pond could have a lot better fishing if it was better managed, in my opinion. Just my $.02.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: sonny88 on Feb 16, 2021, 02:38 PM
Colchester Pond used to be amazing and fish like that while not common were caught every year. But people got greedy and the state regs imho are way to loose on northern pike. Before you knew it it was fished out. It's so sad.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: Boatless in BTV on Feb 16, 2021, 06:30 PM
I certainly don't blame the guy for keeping the fish. But it's a pretty small body of water and there can't be very many fish that size, and they're important for keeping the number of small pike under control.

*kicks hornet's nest*
That place should go 100% catch and release for a few years and then switch to some special regulations.

Special regulations make sense to me. Maybe something like the walleye rules at Carmi with a reduced overall limit and a protected slot?
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: ice fiend on Feb 17, 2021, 06:08 PM
Colchester Pond used to be amazing and fish like that while not common were caught every year. But people got greedy and the state regs imho are way to loose on northern pike. Before you knew it it was fished out. It's so sad.
agreed on the pike regulations needing to be changed.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: Theshad on Feb 17, 2021, 06:10 PM
On the smaller bodies of water I could see some more restrictive limits, but I have zero problem with anyone keeping a legal fish. Be it one or a limit of them. If it’s within the law get after it.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: ISLAND STORM on Feb 17, 2021, 06:31 PM
I’ve caught a few nice pike there including a 38 inch one two years ago. Lots of small ones in there so it’s nice when I bring the kids because they are chasing flags and like the excitement of catching 20 inch pike.

 Completely agree that CP should have some stiffer regs however I don’t have an issue with fisherman keeping legal fish.

As far as that 38 inch pike....knowing that fish may have been 15 years old with amazing genetics and was helping keep the smaller pike in check, I snapped a few pictures with my son and to my sons disbelief sent him back down the hole for another family to enjoy.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: pikeaddict on Feb 17, 2021, 06:44 PM
Congrats to the fisherman, hopefully he is having a nice skin mount done with that one.
Would love to see a slot on northerns, at least on Champlain. Maybe keep the limit at 5, but no keep between 34ish and 40 inches, and only keep 1 over 40. After 3 or 4 years 40-42s would be much more common, with the data I have seen.
I'm no biologist though, not even a bucket biologist. If creel limits were to be changed, I'd hope the changes were based on science and are biologically sound for the fishery.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: TRT on Feb 17, 2021, 07:20 PM
Pike addict you are spot on. A slot would generate more trophy fish. You are still going to lose fish to improper handling, gill hooked, etc but if you
protected the near trophy fish 32-40 we would see a lot more 40+. I don't target pike in the winter but target them a lot during the summer/fall.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: Pike Panther on Feb 18, 2021, 05:52 AM
Dear lord before I die, I would love to see a pike slot limit.  I'm thinking 32" (8 pounds) to 36" (12 Pounds) could be the slot.  That's just my opion.   The state has recognize many deer hunters want a better portion of the deer herd to be trophy deer and have adjusted the law to suit that public interest.  That being said, maybe it will happen one day.  I have my fingers crossed.   
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: Light liner on Feb 19, 2021, 07:57 AM
They the pike study like 5 years ago, never heard anything from it.
They also need to lower the amount you can keep.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: sonny88 on Feb 19, 2021, 02:45 PM
A slot limit and one fish a day limit would make a huge difference.
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: ice fiend on Feb 19, 2021, 04:07 PM
Agreed
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: ICESTICK on Feb 19, 2021, 05:10 PM
X2
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: cbice on Feb 19, 2021, 08:34 PM
I grew up near the Connecticut River and the slot limit on walleye there really benefited the fishing there.  It would be nice to see one on pike in Vermont but not a 1 fish limit.  It wouldn't even be worth the crazy cost of bait if that was the reg. 
Title: Re: 40+" gator from Colchester pond
Post by: Tacoma Marty on Mar 14, 2021, 08:24 PM
Spent a few hours out in the wind and luckily my shanty held up!  Slow fishing but 10" of good ice.