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Title: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 06, 2013, 12:40 PM
So I know safe ice is important to most. I am trying to figure a way for us on iceshanty to be able to share a map with bad ice spots.

Input and comments needed!

This is a test only a test:

Website: http://www.scribblemaps.com/maps

Click the "create" tab at the top

Click "menu" on the upper left corner

Click "load/import"

Under map ID put: Granite_ice

Click "Load/Import"

Use the "Draw shapes" tool next to the ABC at the top to add bad ice or open water spots.

Click "menu"

Click "save map"

Password: iceshanty

I am hoping this might work. Please, others try to add input on the map as see if it works for us all to see!
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: jasonfishn on Feb 06, 2013, 01:37 PM
That would be kewl the only way I would know is if people posted the lake with gps cords. And if someone knows of warm spots in the lake that dont always make the best ice post the areas and maybe some land marks of things to look for.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 06, 2013, 01:42 PM
If it works I think we could create one for each of the lakes. It would be great for times like this where it has been warm and spots ahve opened up but it is supposed to get cold for the next few days so there might be some areas with just skim ice. As with most things its only as good as we make it!
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: Terasec on Feb 06, 2013, 01:45 PM
i can see your red outline,
not a bad idea,
good for groups, lake communities and such
will need lots of updating, unless there are known problem spots that recur every year,
can you as the creator, edit, adjust other peoples edits?
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 06, 2013, 01:53 PM
Im glad you can see it. Can someone else add an area to see if that is possible even if it isnt correct at the moment, just to see if it can be done by others? I am not sure on the edits. I would think we would all be creators and could do edits. I think it is only not able to be edited without the password when you save it. It does have the opportunity for someone to come in and mess it all up, whick I would hope it doesnt happen. For large lakes pressure ridges could also be added.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: LovinFishin on Feb 06, 2013, 02:47 PM
Im glad you can see it. Can someone else add an area to see if that is possible even if it isnt correct at the moment, just to see if it can be done by others? I am not sure on the edits. I would think we would all be creators and could do edits. I think it is only not able to be edited without the password when you save it. It does have the opportunity for someone to come in and mess it all up, whick I would hope it doesnt happen. For large lakes pressure ridges could also be added.
I added a couple of areas from my observations on Tuesday.  Seems to work very well.  Probably would not have figured out how to modify it if I had not had the instruction to load the map from TenE307.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 06, 2013, 02:52 PM
That worked PERFECT! Thank you for the input! I could see your added areas! Thank you! Now my wheels are spinning on what to do next.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 06, 2013, 03:03 PM
Testing the links after save:

http://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/Granite_ice

http://www.scribblemaps.com/#id=Granite_ice
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: Terasec on Feb 06, 2013, 03:08 PM
works for me,
like the potential in it
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 06, 2013, 03:12 PM
It looks like the second link after the save takes you directly to where you can edit it.

http://www.scribblemaps.com/#id=Granite_ice
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 06, 2013, 03:20 PM
Havent been to Glendo yet. I know there is areas that can get dangerous. Here is a map for that.
Once new area is added click menu and save and use iceshanty as the password.

http://www.scribblemaps.com/#id=Glendo_ice

Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 06, 2013, 03:24 PM
One for Pathfinder:

Always ice shanty as password after saving

http://www.scribblemaps.com/#id=Pathfinder_ice
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 06, 2013, 03:27 PM
One for Flaming Gorge:

http://www.scribblemaps.com/#id=Flaming_Gorge_ice
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 06, 2013, 03:29 PM
One for Keyhole:

http://www.scribblemaps.com/#id=Keyhole_ice
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: LovinFishin on Feb 06, 2013, 04:30 PM
Would be good to develop a standard convention for designating each type of area.  Such as blue for open water areas, red for thin ice areas, and etc.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: POk3s on Feb 06, 2013, 08:46 PM
hmmmmm interesting! I think you're on to something here!
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: benwyo on Feb 06, 2013, 09:57 PM
Yes this could work out great... Make members more aware of the ice conditions before going to the lakes..  ;D
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: gemcityslayer on Feb 06, 2013, 10:15 PM
I agree this is a great idea.  Good work TenE307
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: MJA on Feb 07, 2013, 05:44 AM
WOW an inter-active hazards map.... what a great tool this could be to better the sport of ice-fishing :)
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 07, 2013, 09:12 AM
Im one that does not like the idea of falling through the ice, but love to ice fish when I can. I have always thought something like this would help, but it is something that would be only as great as us members make it. I was planning on fishing some of that north bank on granite that was marked earlier. Even after the cold weekend and some snow that might be a dangerous area. Im still looking for input.
I like the idea of different colors for other features but it might be hard to keep it constant. As far as Im concerened if it is open water or thin ice it is some palce I should avoid and thats what I am looking to be able to show to others.
For most things I am just trying to keep it simple but effective.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: gemcityslayer on Feb 07, 2013, 05:04 PM
I was going to mention, that Granite in particular can be really sketchy.  Those North shores start to open up a little bit and then we get one good cold spell with snow at the end of the year, and they freeze back up...only half an inch or less.  The snow on top makes it impossible to see how thick the ice is...  If it is your first time out there you could easily get wet if you had not been out there yet... (or look at one of your maps that will do the trick too).
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: gravy_t on Feb 07, 2013, 06:54 PM
I made one small change to the granite map A: because there was a small (but still open) spot in an area where I see lots of people fish and B: because I wanted to see if it would work lol  :D ...Anyway, it's the small red circle near the land bridge on the west side. This idea is great, and I think if you kept it to 2 colors then it wouldn't be as confusing.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 07, 2013, 07:21 PM
Wonderful! Thank you for the addition! Every bit helps. If it saves one person from going through the ice it is worth it. I agree granite can be sketchy. Especially with a cold spell and some snow like we are supposed to get this weekend.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: gravy_t on Feb 07, 2013, 07:31 PM
One last thing, is the granite map basically granite AND crystal (I saw that you can scroll down and edit crystal too)? I guess my question is should we make any updates to crystal using the granite map?
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 07, 2013, 07:56 PM
Yes, you can add to crystal also. I saved the granite map zoomed out so you can see both. I noticed where you are viewing and zoom level stays when you save it. So before you save it zoom back out and center it to make it easier for the next person viewing.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: LovinFishin on Feb 07, 2013, 10:15 PM
I made one small change to the granite map A: because there was a small (but still open) spot in an area where I see lots of people fish and B: because I wanted to see if it would work lol  :D ...Anyway, it's the small red circle near the land bridge on the west side. This idea is great, and I think if you kept it to 2 colors then it wouldn't be as confusing.
  This area was frozen over today.  I saw people walking over this area as they went out to fish today. Personally I would not have trusted the ice in this area.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: benwyo on Feb 07, 2013, 10:25 PM
  This area was frozen over today.  I saw people walking over this area as they went out to fish today. Personally I would not have trusted the ice in this area.

Yes I was there too today and people was fishing right where that little red spot you put on the map...

LovinFishin.... That must of been you we where talking to... right east of you and we had those 2 suckers and that big broad stock that broke my line??? Hope to meet up with you again... tight lines  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: gravy_t on Feb 07, 2013, 10:57 PM
  This area was frozen over today.  I saw people walking over this area as they went out to fish today. Personally I would not have trusted the ice in this area.
That's exactly how I feel. I think it would suck to unknowingly walk out to a freshly re-frozen area, drill in, and find out you're only on an inch or less. Thanks for the info though! I guess we can just call it sketchy until someone reports otherwise....
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: Team Lightning on Feb 07, 2013, 11:53 PM
Maybe a map open or hard water with designated land marks.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: gravy_t on Feb 08, 2013, 10:46 AM
Well maybe if we, as a community, can keep these maps relatively accurate and updated the mods might pin it to the top of the forum? HINT HINT lol
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: gravy_t on Feb 08, 2013, 10:57 AM
Also, one last question....is there any way to make notes for the spots you mark? I think if an update is made that it would be good if we could put a date and maybe a couple short remarks. For example, the spot I marked was already frozen back over but if we're not sure how the thickness looks there yet we could make a note that it was recently re-froze or that maybe it's a spot that could re-open frequently if it's not already. Just a final, thought.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 08, 2013, 11:07 AM
Good idea. I was able to add a marker with text (I dont like how it looked so big when zoomed out). It looks like the add text was not easy to work with. The more we work with it the better it will be.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: wyo969 on Feb 08, 2013, 11:36 AM
Hey ten I dont know if it would help or not but I had to go to a confrenece yesterday for work and one of the companies there was Ag Terra out of Sheridan. They have a new map it fast program that one can use from their phone or tablet. It allows for points lines and polygons. Its really a slick program for basic mapping. It may or may not work for something like this.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 08, 2013, 11:58 AM
That does look like a sweet app. I would think it would be perfect if we could get cell signal in all of our lakes and the other prob I see is the last line of thier mapitfast website  (Note:  Sharing and synchronization are not enabled in the free version.)
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: wyo969 on Feb 08, 2013, 12:00 PM
Yup thats the only kicker other then it will sync up once you get service ..... Not real big on the pay part though.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: LovinFishin on Feb 08, 2013, 02:38 PM
Also, one last question....is there any way to make notes for the spots you mark? I think if an update is made that it would be good if we could put a date and maybe a couple short remarks. For example, the spot I marked was already frozen back over but if we're not sure how the thickness looks there yet we could make a note that it was recently re-froze or that maybe it's a spot that could re-open frequently if it's not already. Just a final, thought.
I like the idea of adding notes.  I tried it and it seemed fairly easy.  If you want to change a note, it seems that you have to delete the existing one then add a new - is this correct?
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: TenE307 on Feb 08, 2013, 02:43 PM
Good question. Looks like if found out how to do it. To edit the text for the marker click the pencil in the upper left corner of the text box and then save.
Title: Re: Working on open water ice map
Post by: gravy_t on Feb 09, 2013, 03:02 PM
Made one more for the plains lakes:

http://www.scribblemaps.com/#id=Plains_Lakes_ice

I didn't mark anything yet. Hopefully I did this right. Same Password.