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Title: What is it
Post by: joefish on Feb 14, 2020, 06:39 AM
What is it ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/qgr1zg42/IMG-0625.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgr1zg42)

(https://i.postimg.cc/BLBcxc4H/IMG-0624.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLBcxc4H)

This one was about 2 inches long and came up out of water when I drilled a hole.  Have seen them before but not in such numbers
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: kissafish on Feb 14, 2020, 06:46 AM
Looks like a smelt
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: Adironzach on Feb 14, 2020, 06:51 AM
Where'd you catch it? looks like a smelt to me though. Slender body and the big eyes
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: rdhammah on Feb 14, 2020, 07:00 AM
silver side aka spering
also known as little son-of-a-b , bait stealers
I have used them as bait for smelt. filet them and cut into strips.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: lockdown199 on Feb 14, 2020, 07:02 AM
Smelt, get yourself a bucket full and have a feast.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: rdhammah on Feb 14, 2020, 07:10 AM
definitely not a rainbow smelt. your's has a tiny mouth. a smelt does not have that solid silver stripe
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=silverside+fish&id=303FAA9EADFC37603190661BFB035CCD2FDDA85E&form=IQFRBA&first=1&cw=1117&ch=454
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: snow snake on Feb 14, 2020, 07:29 AM
send photo to your DNR?  local  Game fish
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: hardwaterhonkey on Feb 14, 2020, 08:07 AM
Look up Atlantic silverside aka spearing see them often in the salt they look similar but weird being on ice maybe some guy using them as bait n dropped one
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: rdhammah on Feb 14, 2020, 08:23 AM
you can go to Dick's and buy a pkg of frozen ones
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Post by: OneBucketMike on Feb 14, 2020, 08:45 AM
What is it ?

Looks like it might be something a fish spit Up???
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: sodussut on Feb 14, 2020, 08:58 AM
spearing, used them to catch snapper blue fish  at the  Jersey shore 65 years ago!Good bait.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 14, 2020, 10:30 AM
thats a buck eye (emerald shiner )
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: Fishmongerlyndon on Feb 14, 2020, 10:46 AM
that is an inland silverside closely related to the atlantic silverside, they stay very close to the waters surface, or ice in this case, notice the mouth is pointed up its because the feed on the surface.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: dogfish on Feb 14, 2020, 11:08 AM
that is an inland silverside closely related to the atlantic silverside, they stay very close to the waters surface, or ice in this case, notice the mouth is pointed up its because the feed on the surface.

Yes, officially named a "Brook Silverside".  Common bait fish in upstate NY.  Short lifespan and don't do well in captivity.

Need to use that ichthyology degree of mine every now and then.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: Fishmongerlyndon on Feb 14, 2020, 11:44 AM
Yes, officially named a "Brook Silverside".  Common bait fish in upstate NY.  Short lifespan and don't do well in captivity.

Need to use that ichthyology degree of mine every now and then.

ugh i meant brook silverside haha for some reason in my head i always mix the two up.  Same here with the degree!
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: hardwaterhonkey on Feb 14, 2020, 11:52 AM
That’s spot on! Knew it was some sort of silverside I’m too used to the salty ones knew it looked a tad off but too close to a spearing to be anything else!!
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: Adironzach on Feb 14, 2020, 01:23 PM
ugh i meant brook silverside haha for some reason in my head i always mix the two up.  Same here with the degree!

My marine bio degree failed me! ???
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: perch chacer on Feb 14, 2020, 05:05 PM
Emeral Shinner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_shiner
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: jghunter on Feb 14, 2020, 05:36 PM
That's a salt water spearing !!!
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 14, 2020, 05:55 PM
the  brook silverside  has 2 dorsal fins  this  bait fish has  one

https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.aspx?SpeciesID=318 (https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.aspx?SpeciesID=318)

you can  clearly  see this  also the  head is  shaped  different

but i  am  changeing  my mind on it being a  emerald shiner  because that  dorsal fin is back to  far after  careful  examination and google  4 heinekens  i have determined this  is a emerald shiner brook silverside spearing hybrid ......... end of story


Title: Re: What is it
Post by: perch chacer on Feb 14, 2020, 06:01 PM
Good catch Trapper
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: joefish on Feb 15, 2020, 06:34 AM
the  brook silverside  has 2 dorsal fins  this  bait fish has  one

https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.aspx?SpeciesID=318 (https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.aspx?SpeciesID=318)

you can  clearly  see this  also the  head is  shaped  different

but i  am  changeing  my mind on it being a  emerald shiner  because that  dorsal fin is back to  far after  careful  examination and google  4 heinekens  i have determined this  is a emerald shiner brook silverside spearing hybrid ......... end of story
  THANK YOU TRAPPER
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 15, 2020, 06:44 AM
your most welcome  joe  next week i'm starting a thread on how to tell  the difference between  a  sabor tooth one eyed pickerel and  the rare 17 striped hybrid tiger perch
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: swampking89 on Feb 15, 2020, 02:34 PM
You guys are something!! I've had a few but it still looks like bait to me!!
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: H2O-32 on Feb 15, 2020, 02:53 PM
What is it ?
a minnow.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: krispcritter on Feb 17, 2020, 12:14 PM
Looks like a smelt to me. We used to get buckets full out of Lake Erie when I was a kid.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 17, 2020, 12:15 PM
Looks like a regular old emerald shiner.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: Billie on Feb 18, 2020, 09:22 AM
Brook Silverside. I've caught perch on Little Sodus Bay that where so full of them that they puked them up. Was afraid the DEC might come along and ticket me for having bait with no receipt.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: IFISHY on Feb 18, 2020, 06:26 PM
i think its a burbot
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: Hess on Feb 19, 2020, 08:17 AM
I'll go with Emerald Shiner, AKA, baitfish or minnow...!
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: dogfish on Feb 19, 2020, 09:31 AM
the  brook silverside  has 2 dorsal fins  this  bait fish has  one

https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.aspx?SpeciesID=318 (https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.aspx?SpeciesID=318)

you can  clearly  see this  also the  head is  shaped  different

but i  am  changeing  my mind on it being a  emerald shiner  because that  dorsal fin is back to  far after  careful  examination and google  4 heinekens  i have determined this  is a emerald shiner brook silverside spearing hybrid ......... end of story
The front fin is under developed in the Brook Silverside (observed in the photo you have)and laying down in the photos.  heads look pretty similar to me.  It is a Brook Silverside right down to the ground
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: PikeKing23 on Feb 20, 2020, 02:56 PM
Salmon....no brown trout.....no salmon ;D
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: BeenPerchin315 on Feb 20, 2020, 05:52 PM
What is it ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/qgr1zg42/IMG-0625.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgr1zg42)

(https://i.postimg.cc/BLBcxc4H/IMG-0624.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLBcxc4H)

This one was about 2 inches long and came up out of water when I drilled a hole.  Have seen them before but not in such numbers

Well after much deliberation and careful examination I would have to say this is a very distinct and close relative of the Niagara shiner making it a buckeye emerald shiner hybrid and most of all it is bait that will catch fish. 
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: Hando on Feb 20, 2020, 10:00 PM
I'll go with Emerald Shiner, AKA, baitfish or minnow...!

x2 - totally looks like a dead emerald.  Seen enough of those coughed up from fish I caught.  I also agree it looks like bait!  Throw it on a hook and fish it!!!
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: just fishy on Feb 21, 2020, 10:06 AM
Been seeing them in holes from Braddock's Bay all the way to Sodus.