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Iceassin:

--- Quote from: esox_xtm on Jan 07, 2020, 07:25 AM ---That's been pretty much the general consensus for a long time. In the spring river run I always start with orange or pink. Sometimes chartreuse does better and one year it was a blue/white two-tone that slayed 'em. Also done well with red craw Rippin' Raps and lotsa stuff in firetiger.

I've seen the depth vs color before too. Do know that lures don't become "invisible" but their color just turns to shades of grey.

So many folks get hung up on color when they can't even get a location or other presentation details correct first. Depth and speed of your lure are nos. #1 and #2 with color being a distant 3rd. Not that color doesn't matter and fine tuning won't catch you more fish but you really gotta have everything else in order.

I simplify color selections by generalizing light, dark and in-between to start. So white, yellow and chartreuse are "light", black, brown and purple are "dark" and there's all kinds of in-between. I'll also say it seems like bass can be on the color picky side, especially with plastics but I've not noticed that very often with walleyes, perch or pike (my usual targets).

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Ok esox...time for you to go to work:

I will be hitting a small (40 acres) lake that the MDNR has claimed to house a few Walleye. ( I have read the stocking and survey reports).There is a 45' area that transcends into a shallow, narrows before coming into another 40' hole. The lake is predominantly peat and marrow with very little structure and not conducive of spawning areas typically used by these fish. So, if you were to try and locate them, primarily morning and evening, where would you begin and what lures would you start with? I have:

Swedish Pimples (large)
Jigging Raps (small)
Rattle Spoons (small)
Lipless (jigging) crankbaits (medium)
Whistle Jigs (large)
Chuby Darters (medium)

Ok...GO!!!

esox_xtm:

--- Quote from: Iceassin on Jan 07, 2020, 11:55 AM ---Ok esox...time for you to go to work:

I will be hitting a small (40 acres) lake that the MDNR has claimed to house a few Walleye. ( I have read the stocking and survey reports).There is a 45' area that transcends into a shallow, narrows before coming into another 40' hole. The lake is predominantly peat and marrow with very little structure and not conducive of spawning areas typically used by these fish. So, if you were to try and locate them, primarily morning and evening, where would you begin and what lures would you start with? I have:

Swedish Pimples (large)
Jigging Raps (small)
Rattle Spoons (small)
Lipless (jigging) crankbaits (medium)
Whistle Jigs (large)
Chuby Darters (medium)

Ok...GO!!!

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Geeez! Why ya gotta put me on the hot seat? I'm no walldog expert, I just dabble when I go with others that think pike are trash. But you know I can't keep my yap shut especially with an invitation, so since you asked, I'll take a swing. Remember though, there are others here that are waaaay more qualified than I to answer.

40 acres? That's barely bigger than a mud puddle and not likely a prime walleye lake. I'd be curious if there are any inlets/outlets are simply a seepage or spring fed body. Clear water, stained or just plain dirt dark? You don't have to spill here, it's just stuff that can change where you go and what you do.

Off the cuff I'd look at that saddle area between the basins. Almost gotta be that fish move back and forth between and that area would concentrate transient fish. Other than that I would think that any current areas (in or out) would draw fish as well.

As far as presentations I usually lean toward the most aggressive one to start. More often than we think fish will respond to very aggressive stuff while ignoring more finesseful presentations. If you don't start big, fast and loud you'll never get there because most often folks tends to downsize/slow down from where they're at if they are not contacting fish. Especially in dark and unfamiliar water something that is big and loud can call maybe (at least) one fish to come in an look validating your location choice. Another factor is the location of food. Catching perch? You're probably not too far off.

40 acres should let you cover most of that even if you're by yourself. Got a camera available? That can help reveal non-biters. You can fish two lines so make the most of that. Set a tippy and hole hop around until you're satisfied there's noting there. Don't forget to pay attention to your locator to reveal non-biters too.

You're on an adventure so, unless you have experienced help, be prepared to accept a goose egg. I think that happens quite often. Except for me and muskies... New water and the muskies there seem to be a free kick for me. Unfortunately, I can revisit multiple times and never (in some cases) re-create that first time experience. I guess that can be true with other experiences too  ::)  ;).

OK, you got my 2 cents. Perhaps other, more skilled folks will feel comfortable chipping in. I'll certainly not be offended if any or all of my advice gets contradicted. Like I said at the outset: I'm no expert. I just like to fish, like adventures and sometimes get real (real) lucky.  ;D

Iceassin:

--- Quote from: esox_xtm on Jan 07, 2020, 06:16 PM ---Geeez! Why ya gotta put me on the hot seat? I'm no walldog expert, I just dabble when I go with others that think pike are trash. But you know I can't keep my yap shut especially with an invitation, so since you asked, I'll take a swing. Remember though, there are others here that are waaaay more qualified than I to answer.

40 acres? That's barely bigger than a mud puddle and not likely a prime walleye lake. I'd be curious if there are any inlets/outlets are simply a seepage or spring fed body. Clear water, stained or just plain dirt dark? You don't have to spill here, it's just stuff that can change where you go and what you do.

Off the cuff I'd look at that saddle area between the basins. Almost gotta be that fish move back and forth between and that area would concentrate transient fish. Other than that I would think that any current areas (in or out) would draw fish as well.

As far as presentations I usually lean toward the most aggressive one to start. More often than we think fish will respond to very aggressive stuff while ignoring more finesseful presentations. If you don't start big, fast and loud you'll never get there because most often folks tends to downsize/slow down from where they're at if they are not contacting fish. Especially in dark and unfamiliar water something that is big and loud can call maybe (at least) one fish to come in an look validating your location choice. Another factor is the location of food. Catching perch? You're probably not too far off.

40 acres should let you cover most of that even if you're by yourself. Got a camera available? That can help reveal non-biters. You can fish two lines so make the most of that. Set a tippy and hole hop around until you're satisfied there's noting there. Don't forget to pay attention to your locator to reveal non-biters too.

You're on an adventure so, unless you have experienced help, be prepared to accept a goose egg. I think that happens quite often. Except for me and muskies... New water and the muskies there seem to be a free kick for me. Unfortunately, I can revisit multiple times and never (in some cases) re-create that first time experience. I guess that can be true with other experiences too  ::)  ;).

OK, you got my 2 cents. Perhaps other, more skilled folks will feel comfortable chipping in. I'll certainly not be offended if any or all of my advice gets contradicted. Like I said at the outset: I'm no expert. I just like to fish, like adventures and sometimes get real (real) lucky.  ;D

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Thanks...good enough for a start. Gonna start " Loud and Proud" ( does a rock band come to mind ? 😉) and move down from there.

Looking for more input from others.

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