Author Topic: otisco lake bs thread (Read 179880 times)

big_guy_13021 · « **Reply #90 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 06:13 AM »

Anything is possible now a days..i know teeter and he kniws his fish..we both have hooked sturgeion in places that i didnt even know that they were in there.that b the seneca river....my buddy caught a tiger out of owasco lake a few yrs back..and no it wasnt a pickeral....i have to try to find pic..wasnt huge but a tiger musky..

big_guy_13021 · « **Reply #91 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 06:15 AM »

Trapper lmao ....

trapper2000 · « **Reply #92 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 06:22 AM »

happens sturgeon are showing up all up and down the river system now since Oneida was stocked ! and I caught a musky at wrights landing a few years ago near the steam station fishing for smallmouth ....you can stop zebra mussels ya can't stop fish from traveling ...... now otisco is under siege from giant monster northern pike ......I suggest we all try to catch them and have coffee ...if them darn old half bred tigers leave my bait alone !!!!! where the heck did these things come from?

big_guy_13021 · « **Reply #93 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 06:37 AM »

Good question where did they come from.they r a cross between a northern and a musky i think....they must a got bored during the winter and had little one..maybe brother and sister pike that made a tiger musky....

gauglerb · « **Reply #94 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 07:18 AM »

Calm night and subzero temps...I imagine it's all locked up this morning, but certainly not safe yet. On another night, I've been kind of bummed about this lake. Used to be one of my favorites and now it seems like the lakers are all fairly skinny. So I guess the question is, what is currently the natural bait fish in this lake? what are they feeding on (or no longer feeding on) ?

OneidaAngler · « **Reply #95 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 07:26 AM »

Quote from: gauglerb on Jan 14, 2015, 07:18 AM

Calm night and subzero temps...I imagine it's all locked up this morning, but certainly not safe yet. On another night, I've been kind of bummed about this lake. Used to be one of my favorites and now it seems like the lakers are all fairly skinny. So I guess the question is, what is currently the natural bait fish in this lake? what are they feeding on (or no longer feeding on) ?

Alewives. There used to be smelt in the lake too, but I believe they've been extirpated from Otsego for a number of years now. Alewives experience unpredictable fluctuations from year to year and they've been on the down side for a few years from what I hear. Thus the unhealthy population of lakers.

davise6 · « **Reply #96 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 08:19 AM »

The walleye stocking program has really decimated the alewife, which was the goal. The alewife were introduced in the 80s and totally messed up the ecosystem. The only positive was bigger lakers, but almost all zooplankton were gone so other forage fish declined. The SUNY oneonta biological field station outside cooperstown has all the info on the topic. I'm a grad student there. Apparently Cisco and whitefish are starting to rebound and they were the original forage base for lakers

pmac3 · « **Reply #97 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 08:27 AM »

Quote from: davise6 on Jan 14, 2015, 08:19 AM

The walleye stocking program has really decimated the alewife, which was the goal. The alewife were introduced in the 80s and totally messed up the ecosystem. The only positive was bigger lakers, but almost all zooplankton were gone so other forage fish declined. The SUNY oneonta biological field station outside cooperstown has all the info on the topic. I'm a grad student there. Apparently Cisco and whitefish are starting to rebound and they were the original forage base for lakers

I hope you're right about the ciscoes and whitefish. Unfortunately I was never around for the "good old days" on Otsego and just started fishing it last year. Last year the lakers looked more like eels.

OneidaAngler · « **Reply #98 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 10:31 AM »

Nice one jager! I've always wanted to catch a few whitefish. Hopefully Otsego will get a nice population going in a few years. Not many places to go in NY to get whitefish anymore

willsoj560 · « **Reply #99 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 10:55 AM »

Quote from: davise6 on Jan 14, 2015, 08:19 AM

The walleye stocking program has really decimated the alewife, which was the goal. The alewife were introduced in the 80s and totally messed up the ecosystem. The only positive was bigger lakers, but almost all zooplankton were gone so other forage fish declined. The SUNY oneonta biological field station outside cooperstown has all the info on the topic. I'm a grad student there. Apparently Cisco and whitefish are starting to rebound and they were the original forage base for lakers

Atta boy! Look up some of my literature lol!

JAGER61 · « **Reply #100 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 10:59 AM »

Truth be told, I didn't know what this thing was, thought maybe a creepy mutant shiner and released it as fast as possible before it attacked me! Lol! Was a cool catch though!

Mike

johnny b jiggin · « **Reply #101 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 12:27 PM »

love checkin out the camera!

FishinAddiction · « **Reply #102 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 04:03 PM »

What are the dates for the derbies this year?

deadbaitjeff · « **Reply #103 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 05:03 PM »

Quote from: FishinAddiction on Jan 14, 2015, 04:03 PM

What are the dates for the derbies this year?

moondance is feb 14 & 15
Alvord house is the first weekend in march may be the 7th

PSC13 · « **Reply #104 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 06:02 PM »

Any reports on glimmerglass? Thinking about fishing the lake friday anyone want to go?

Raquettedacker · « **Reply #105 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 06:07 PM »

Nice Otsego Bass Mike... They use to take them out in wagon loads back in the time....
Thats why there almost extinct..

BIGJim223 · « **Reply #106 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 06:52 PM »

Quote from: Raquettedacker on Jan 14, 2015, 06:07 PM

Nice Otsego Bass Mike... They use to take them out in wagon loads back in the time....
Thats why there almost extinct..

My father was an avid Otsego bass fisherman when I was a kid. Used to make me go out 5am every possible weekend during soft water and jerk for them. How I used to hate that! He sold (legal at that time) his and my limits to local restaurants and mom & pop markets in Cherry Valley, Sharon Springs, and Cooperstown. He used this money to support his bass fishing addiction, which is what we did after the whitefish stopped biting for the day, or we got our limit. He was very good at it, used lead core line on big ol' Penn reels and stout as a broomstick trolling rods. No pictures of any "Otsego Bass" but here are some Otsego bass from back in the day:

early 70's October Smallmouths

Me in 1968 first day of bass season and I remember that it was rainy and freezing cold! 6lb 12oz largemouth. Personal best bass until the mid 80's when I landed a 7lb 4oz fish from the exact same piece of structure on the lake!

First day bass season dated 1970, though I think it was '68 or '69

Wish I had some "otsego bass" photos, but he always sold them as soon as he got off the lake and though he was an avid photographer, I have never seen any photos of them.

BIGJim223

JAGER61 · « **Reply #107 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 06:56 PM »

Love the pics Jim! Those are Good as Gold! We should start a thread of fish pics of IS members when they kids!
Good stuff !

MK

BIGJim223 · « **Reply #108 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 07:03 PM »

Thanks Mike! I thought I could find some with whitefish in them but no go. My wife scanned all his pictures that were given to me after he died and put them on a CD. Good thing because those old film camera pictures really deteriorated as you tell by the one with the smallmouth.
That whitefish you got 2 years ago is the biggest I have ever seen come out of Otsego. My old man would have kept that one for our supper, for sure! We used to catch some slammer largemouth in Otsego back in the day too, and we ate every single one, big or small. Yeccch! Still don't eat bass......

BIGJim223

JAGER61 · « **Reply #109 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 07:08 PM »

Nice memories for sure and good thinking on the part of the Missus for scanning them! Butch and I still laugh about that whitefish! We both screamed like little school girls playing keep away with it! LMAO! But, put him back in the hole so who knows how much bigger he got!

MK

Raquettedacker · « **Reply #110 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 07:10 PM »

Great pictures Jim...

gauglerb · « **Reply #111 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 07:33 PM »

Thanks for info.. Hopefully it all levels out in a couple years. Must mean the walleyes are healthy and fat now lol

BIGJim223 · « **Reply #112 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 07:34 PM »

quote: Must mean the walleyes are healthy and fat now lol

When you can find them!

BIGJim223

Tat2Rtist · « **Reply #113 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 08:18 PM »

Never fished Otsego, was thinking about going out tomorrow morning, can anyone tell me where to access the lake, and maybe a good jigging depth or a rough estimate where I can get some action. Im handicapped, cant go too far out, but been wanting to do some fishing in new lakes.

Thanks for any help anyone can give me, Im not looking for secret fishing holes, but just a place where I can get some action.

BIGJim223 · « **Reply #114 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 08:42 PM »

Public Landing, Springfield Center is your best bet. Easy access with pretty good water within a short walk. Perch,bass,picks, lakers available. Maybe a waldo.

BIGJim223

Tat2Rtist · « **Reply #115 on:** Jan 14, 2015, 09:00 PM »

Super, thanks Jim, I am going to head out there tomorrow morning, will be driving from Westernville, I live 7 miles north of Delta Lake, but not much jigging action there. Hopefully can fit my one man clam in the back of the wifes new Kia Soul, I dont want to get my Jeep Wrangler all road salt. LOL

Thanks again.

BeenFishin · « **Reply #116 on:** Jan 15, 2015, 06:59 AM »

Great pictures BigJim, reminds me of the fishing I did with my grandmother on Goodyear lake not too far away during the 1980s. She was the avid fisherwoman who taught me almost everything I know about softwater fishing.
Thanks for the Pictures!!!

big_guy_13021 · « **Reply #117 on:** Jan 15, 2015, 07:35 AM »

The crappies r eluding me rite now..

..but the gills r plentiful..i got a quite a few perch yesterday to ill see what today brings me...

Raquettedacker · « **Reply #118 on:** Jan 15, 2015, 07:42 AM »

Great pictures johnny....

haitb · « **Reply #119 on:** Jan 15, 2015, 09:40 AM »

Quote from: johnny b jiggin on Jan 14, 2015, 12:27 PM

love checkin out the camera!

Hey Johnny,
What's the wooden brace thingy you have supporting your camera? Do you have another photo that shows that better? I have a Aqua-Vu Scout that Works well, but I hate the way the cord is stored. Thought about trying to build something better. Wish I could figure out incorporate the auto spools that air compressor hose is stored on. Day dreaming again!!!

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Author Topic: otisco lake bs thread (Read 179880 times)

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