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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: stinkyfingers on Nov 23, 2018, 10:01 AM
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This last Tuesday I took my new 7" Mini Nero auger out for a run on first ice. I had hooked it to a Clam plate with a Milwaukee M18 Fuel 5.0 Ah as the power unit. That Milwaukee/
Clam combo has spun an 8" blue Nils and an 8" LazerMag with little strain. But in an effort to get away from those heavy flight units I decided to try a 7" Nero which I had seen
on YouTube. The videos are in Russian but my wife is English/Russian bilingual so she provided translation. It's certainly a no frills unit as you'd expect. Granted, I was only
drilling through 5 inches of hard ice but the Nero went through it like Sherman through Georgia. I can only describe the bite on the ice as harsh, very different from the silky
smoothness of the Nils. It's an aggressive cut and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it could cut at 2" per second with the right rotational speed. They're made in Russia by
Volzhanka , a leading maker of European ice fishing gear and it was that high spec Russian blade steel that got me interested since they say it can hold up against dirty ice,
something the Nils can't do. Only time will tell how it drills in thick ice and how durable the blades really are but first impressions are favorable.
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Sounds like a winner..
One thing worth mentioning though, if ice is dirty because of sand, there isn't any blades that'll hold up, sand is simply harder than any type of steel..
Chipper blades get by the longest just because of the way they cut with higher RPMs and such..
But the Nils are the first type to go dull.. Also with shaver (Nero) blades, you'll at least get some warning, unlike a Nils..
Good luck!!
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I truly believe the Nero cuts at 2" Plus per second. And it takes out chucks of ice and not shavings.
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I took my new nero out last ice last year. After years of using a lazer auger i was truly impressed by the nero 7”. Maybe its just the offset handles but i went around cutting holes effortlessly by hand and smiling the whole way. Enough so that it made me wander why i would ever hook it up to my drill.... but i am in indiana so take that for what its worth. I was prolly drilling 8-10” of ice. All in all i was very pleasantly surprised how easy it cut for an 80-100 dollar drill, well worth it in my opinion. By the way i am sure i will be hooking up to a drill at some point.
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This is my second season with the 7" Nero and I already have hit the ice twice this week. I have ditched the drill and clam plate for early ice under 12". No need to lug around the extra gear and weight, when it cuts so fast and effortlessly.
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How are you guys attaching it to the Clam Plate? I just took mine out of the box and the piece to connect the bit to the drill plate seems to have holes too close together to fit it on properly.
Thinking I could chop like an eighth of an inch off the shaft on the Clam plate but I'd really like to avoid doing that.
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Q: What is the actual hole diameter of a 7" Nero?
A: ?
Thanks!
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In another thread lefty said 7 3/8" if I'm remembering correctly.
I see now that I could just put the flighting section directly on to the Clam plate, but when you include the extension is when it does not fit. Are you guys using the extensions or just drilling hunched over? This could make it useless for me if I can't use the extension.
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In another thread lefty said 7 3/8" if I'm remembering correctly.
I see now that I could just put the flighting section directly on to the Clam plate, but when you include the extension is when it does not fit. Are you guys using the extensions or just drilling hunched over? This could make it useless for me if I can't use the extension.
I have said 7 3/8" more than once but I am now thinking I measured a hole while I had some wobble. The bit is exactly 7" from blade to blade.
SO it must have had wobble and I just measured the widest part somehow.
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I see now that I could just put the flighting section directly on to the Clam plate, but when you include the extension is when it does not fit. Are you guys using the extensions or just drilling hunched over? This could make it useless for me if I can't use the extension.
… and that's where the cheese becomes binding. If you bought the hand auger model rather than the convertible drill model, your directly connected auger is only going to be 24" long, a little stubby for mid-season ice. I'm going to go back to hand drilling until the ice thickens up and I hope that by that time you will have figured out an extension section that will tie it together and can let me know.
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Can’t you just use the $15 clam plate extention?
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The clam extension will work for a Nero auger to clam plate 100%. The clam extension will not work to replace the stock Nero extension if connecting to the stock Nero drill adapter. Ask me how I know!?
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The clam extension will work for a Nero auger to clam plate 100%. The clam extension will not work to replace the stock Nero extension if connecting to the stock Nero drill adapter. Ask me how I know!?
Awesome, thanks for the info!
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Nero is awesome. I have 6". Cuts with zero effort. I want to get backup blades for it but no one has the 6" in stock. I really hope they don't discontinue it
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Nero is awesome. I have 6". Cuts with zero effort. I want to get backup blades for it but no one has the 6" in stock. I really hope they don't discontinue it
Well there was one set on Ebay but I grabbed it up because no one has them.
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Nero is awesome. I have 6". Cuts with zero effort. I want to get backup blades for it but no one has the 6" in stock. I really hope they don't discontinue it
Reeds carries them
https://www.reedssports.com/ht-enterprises/ht-enterprises-nero-hand-auger-replacement-bl-289525 (https://www.reedssports.com/ht-enterprises/ht-enterprises-nero-hand-auger-replacement-bl-289525)
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MarineGeneral does too. https://www.marinegeneral.com/product/ht-nero-auger-replacement-blades/
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Reeds carries them
https://www.reedssports.com/ht-enterprises/ht-enterprises-nero-hand-auger-replacement-bl-289525 (https://www.reedssports.com/ht-enterprises/ht-enterprises-nero-hand-auger-replacement-bl-289525)
Take a look at that screen shot from the Reed's catalog (thanks Jon). You'll see that the blades themselves are very short, maybe even 10% shorter than the blades from my
Lazer or Nils even accounting for a 7" Nero cut vs an 8" Lazer cut. If you have 10% less steel doing the work of ice shaving it would allow the designers to use a more aggressive
bevel. In thinking about that relatively large center section between the blades, I wonder if that ice is just breaking free rather than being sliced off. I lack the means to
precisely measure the edge angle but I put a spare Lazer blade on top of the Nero blade and the Nero was dramatically more acute than the Lazer by as much as 10-12 degrees.
Maybe the touted hardness of their steel allows for that aggressive edge geometry.
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Nero is awesome. I have 6". Cuts with zero effort. I want to get backup blades for it but no one has the 6" in stock. I really hope they don't discontinue it
I ordered 2 sets of 7" blades just for this purpose. After seeing lefty praise the Nero so much I bought one in the off season and stocked up on blades.
Some ice fishing gear seems to start getting popular just to fall off the face of the earth or move to China
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I ordered a 7” with an extra set of blades, really looking forward to trying it. It’s on backorder for another week or so I think. Hoping that date doesn’t get extended
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They have an 8 inch version that wasn't available last year. So, it looks like the Nero will be around for the foreseeable future. But just in case, I also stocked up on some spare sets of 7" blades.
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They have an 8 inch version that wasn't available last year. So, it looks like the Nero will be around for the foreseeable future. But just in case, I also stocked up on some spare sets of 7" blades.
I still haven't seen an 8" version. Where did you see it at?
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I understand that ice fishing is an extremely popular sport in Russia. Millions of their guys get out there onto the ice over their long and bitter winters. With a domestic market
that size, they naturally have developed an internal production of ice gear. Some time ago one of our IceShanty brothers posted a video grab from YouTube in which a Russian
guy does a features and benefits comparison of 5 different hand augers in their market. One was Mora which was just too expensive. one cut just okay, another was total junk
and there was basically a tie between the Nero and Tonar brands. I understand that Tonar has now shifted they're production to China with the expected drop in quality. So the
one that HT Enterprises imports for our market is the Nero.
They don't appear to use shelters or electronics over there. In order to fully appreciate how it's done in Russia, you're going to have to learn how to drink an astonishing amount
of vodka.
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I still haven't seen an 8" version. Where did you see it at?
In Reed's paper catalog. It shows the 8" kit as MNAK-8 $109.99 and replacement 8" blades as MNAB-8 $19.99. Strange how their online site doesn't have it.
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I don't get their catalog other than the online one.
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In order to fully appreciate how it's done in Russia, you're going to have to learn how to drink an astonishing amount of vodka.
Thanks stinky, I was wondering why appreciated their viewpoint so much... @)
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What is your thoughts on the blade covers for these? I haven't gotten mine yet but looking at pictures, its just two small individual covers, I can see a cut finger coming...I'm also worried about the blades icing up and not being able to get the covers on? :tipup:
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What is your thoughts on the blade covers for these? I haven't gotten mine yet but looking at pictures, its just two small individual covers, I can see a cut finger coming...I'm also worried about the blades icing up and not being able to get the covers on? :tipup:
If you're a Coumadin user best you have lots of bandages in you pocket.
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What is your thoughts on the blade covers for these? I haven't gotten mine yet but looking at pictures, its just two small individual covers, I can see a cut finger coming...I'm also worried about the blades icing up and not being able to get the covers on? :tipup:
I never had an issue getting the two covers to interlock on the blades. Ice hasn't been a problem for me either. Larger cover goes on the blade with the flighting and the smaller one goes on the opposite. (they interlock to make one solid cover with the rubber bungee attached) When I'm drilling a hole, it's a pretty compact cover to stick in a pocket as the smaller cover will slide almost completely into the larger one. I too was skeptical of the setup, but I like it.
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I'd advise putting the cover back on as soon as possible once you've drilled your holes. I learned the hard way. I put the Nero into my sled without the cover on (in the dark). I later reached for something else and gashed my hand open on the uncovered blade. I was actually impressed by the cut. About 1.5" long and paper-cut thin but bled like a stuck pig! Of course I didn't have any band-aides with me so I had to "McGyver" it. Scissors, electrical tape, and neoprene did the trick. Please don't waist your time telling me I'm an idiot as my wife reminds me of this almost daily ;D
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What is your thoughts on the blade covers for these? I haven't gotten mine yet but looking at pictures, its just two small individual covers, I can see a cut finger coming...I'm also worried about the blades icing up and not being able to get the covers on? :tipup:
Was out last night checking conditions, bouncing pond to pond poking holes to check thickness and I gotta say the Auger it self is excellent but that blade cover is 18 stitches waiting to happen, ended up tossing the cover in the truck and putting a winter hat over the end of the auger for transport pond to pond till I got home... Now my spare Eskimo blade cover is happy on the Nero...
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This might be an option for for a Nero. Made from PVC..
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How much $ for one?
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How much $ for one?
The cover?
Pretty sure it costs less than $5 to make, I already had the tube piece..
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To bad cold snap doesn't make something close to this.
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For those who have your Nero mounted to a drill, does it spin true? I used mine for the first time today, and it seems to have a lot of wobble.
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I run mine under a Clam plate and yes it wobbles but so did my LazerMag and my Nils. Once it bites into the ice the wobble goes away.
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In talking to a tech at HT, the wobble is normal. He also suggests starting the first few turns slowly until the blades bite before you put the juice to it. As far as the blade covers, I don’t see much difference from those on my Nils or Strikelite other than they are 2-pieces instead of one. It’s all in what you’re used to. I always cover them when not in use. Common sense in my opinion.
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Just tried it out. Fast as .... well, you know. And extremely light and portable. I can see that we will get along just fine. :)
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Just tried it out. Fast as .... well, you know. And extremely light and portable. I can see that we will get along just fine. :)
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Well with all this talk I took the plunge bought a mini nero should be on my step tommorow. While I was at It figured I needed to get that 1,300 torque Ridgid drill. Buy the 9ah battery with charger get the drill free 202.47 tax and shipping. Will be here Friday. Sunday plan on hitting lake milacs to give it a try. Hopefully I will have a few augers up for sale if I like the setup.
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Well with all this talk I took the plunge bought a mini nero should be on my step tommorow. While I was at It figured I needed to get that 1,300 torque Ridgid drill. Buy the 9ah battery with charger get the drill free 202.47 tax and shipping. Will be here Friday. Sunday plan on hitting lake milacs to give it a try. Hopefully I will have a few augers up for sale if I like the setup.
Just be sure to remove the Nero Handle and just use the Drills handle. I made a sleeve to go over mine so it won't far in the hole. It is a piece of Truck bed liner. A good hard Frisbee would work. Just pull the shaft out put it on and put the shaft back on.
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Why not use the handle with it? Is there issues? I could see it not really helping your wrist if catches funny or something.
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Why not use the handle with it? Is there issues? I could see it not really helping your wrist if catches funny or something.
Right it wont help you if the auger catches. And with 1300"#'s of Torque you can rip your arm off.
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Man. Scheels had 2 Nero auger kits in at $99 7in augers......almost bought one but held back.
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Just got mine in today, looks nice. I thought the blade covers literally just covered the blades...thats what I saw from pictures. Not sure I love the cover design, but it's way better than I anticipated. I think this will be a nice set up with a rigid!
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Just be sure to remove the Nero Handle and just use the Drills handle. I made a sleeve to go over mine so it won't far in the hole. It is a piece of Truck bed liner. A good hard Frisbee would work. Just pull the shaft out put it on and put the shaft back on.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XG4BcnFT/IMG-2978-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XG4BcnFT)
I was just going to let that extra handle fly around in circles lol.
I got with mine for the first time yesterday and it was pretty nice, no down force needed, breaking through was pretty rough though. Kind of had to slam it down to knock that last chunk of ice off the bottom of the hole, or spin the auger backwards to get it out.
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I lift mine up and then hold back on it and then drill down again. It usually gets that chunk out.
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I’ve recently sold the ice gator and am now deep into the drill process. Just bought the Ridgid and am debating on bits. This looks like a good possibility!
One question that hopefully helps contribute to the conversation here: anyone try “Mickey mouse” holes with one? Wanting to get after sturgeon this winter and that is a must to get those behemoths through the ice....
Related I suppose would be asking how they are for reopening holes.
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I’ve recently sold the ice gator and am now deep into the drill process. Just bought the Ridgid and am debating on bits. This looks like a good possibility!
One question that hopefully helps contribute to the conversation here: anyone try “Mickey mouse” holes with one? Wanting to get after sturgeon this winter and that is a must to get those behemoths through the ice....
Related I suppose would be asking how they are for reopening holes.
You want a chipper blade for that, the nero might do it, but a K drill will do it a lot better.
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You want a chipper blade for that, the nero might do it, but a K drill will do it a lot better.
That's good advice...trying to avoid paying for the K-Drill when I've not been all that impressed with the ones I've been around. I suppose that's a byproduct of the chipper blades vs shaver blades though.
I have been doing it with a Lazer bit that I had on my Ice Gator and it worked great for that, but having the centering point on it I think was a really big deal for making it work.
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Used her for the first time last night.
Very sharp- cuts through the ice a little to fast and leaves very jagged edges that are hard to pull the auger out of. Slowing down and focusing on not putting any pressure on top seemed to help, also I think this will improve once I get use to the offset handles. Bashing the hole with the auger flights to get it out always worries me.
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That's good advice...trying to avoid paying for the K-Drill when I've not been all that impressed with the ones I've been around. I suppose that's a byproduct of the chipper blades vs shaver blades though.
I have been doing it with a Lazer bit that I had on my Ice Gator and it worked great for that, but having the centering point on it I think was a really big deal for making it work.
Maybe you can get the same bit that you had? Unless it was a 10" the drill might work. Another option is nils with a center point but that is just as pricey as a k. I'd try it for you with my nero but don't have spare blades yet and don't want to bang them up if I don't have to.
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This was my first day out with the k drill in 2016, I didn’t need a big hole at the time but had to try it lol
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I've used my Nero in combination with Milwaukee F18 Fuel for the full 2017-18 season and I couldn't be happier. I also have a Nils but I'm tired of its finicky nature. There is a good reason why ice fishermen in Russia need compact size and light weight. They've "trolled the ice" way before the term had been invented here (as some people claim). I grew up in Russia and I know because my dad is an ice fishermen. It's moving and drilling all day long to chase those schools of fish. He had the same old auger all his life and never complained about it. An occasional blade sharpening - that's all it ever needed. That's why I bought that Nero as soon as I saw that video. It's no frills but it does the job very reliably. And let's not forget, the pair of blades is only $13 shipped! Compare that to Nils head sharpening at $60 - $70 depending on your shipping. I also liked the ease and flexibility of converting from hand to drill with the drill handle already in place that is also your insurance from loosing your auger down the whole if it detaches. Run out of juice? No problem, just convert to hand no tools needed! Love the thought they've put into it. Looking forward to 2018 - 19 season! BTW... after the whole season, no blade replacement is needed, the original blades are still in business.
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I've used my Nero in combination with Milwaukee F18 Fuel for the full 2017-18 season and I couldn't be happier. I also have a Nils but I'm tired of its finicky nature. There is a good reason why ice fishermen in Russia need compact size and light weight. They've "trolled the ice" way before the term had been invented here (as some people claim). I grew up in Russia and I know because my dad is an ice fishermen. It's moving and drilling all day long to chase those schools of fish. He had the same old auger all his life and never complained about it. An occasional blade sharpening - that's all it ever needed. That's why I bought that Nero as soon as I saw that video. It's no frills but it does the job very reliably. And let's not forget, the pair of blades is only $13 shipped! Compare that to Nils head sharpening at $60 - $70 depending on your shipping. I also liked the ease and flexibility of converting from hand to drill with the drill handle already in place that is also your insurance from loosing your auger down the whole if it detaches. Run out of juice? No problem, just convert to hand no tools needed! Love the thought they've put into it. Looking forward to 2018 - 19 season! BTW... after the whole season, no blade replacement is needed, the original blades are still in business.
Except that they can't be found right now, the only ones I see are 18 on ebay + 10 for shipping.
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yes, it became a hot item but you can pre-order:
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/nero-folding-7-hand-ice-auger-with-drill-adapter-and-extension?a=2157724
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yes, it became a hot item but you can pre-order:
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/nero-folding-7-hand-ice-auger-with-drill-adapter-and-extension?a=2157724
I already have the auger, just can't seem to find a spare set of blades without the price jacked up to double what it is supposed to be.
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I already have the auger, just can't seem to find a spare set of blades without the price jacked up to double what it is supposed to be.
Try Cabelas web site. I also was in a Cabelas last week and saw some there.
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Try Cabelas web site. I also was in a Cabelas last week and saw some there.
Thanks man, Cabelas doesn't have HT Mini in the name they just call them nero augers so maybe that is why it didn't show up when I was searching last night.
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I have a spare set for my 6" and I also have 2 spares for my 7". I guess I am a hoarder.
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Thanks man, Cabelas doesn't have HT Mini in the name they just call them nero augers so maybe that is why it didn't show up when I was searching last night.
I just typed in Nero Auger Blades to find them.
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Well finally got out to try the new nero and Ridgid drill setup. Cut about 15 holes on lake Mille lacs 13 inches of ice. Would work better with center point. Have to start it a bit slow the auger flies thru the ice, to fast imo it's definitely not as smooth as my Nils but it definitely gets the job done. Would have cut more holes but the walleyes where on fire so no need to.
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I already have the auger, just can't seem to find a spare set of blades without the price jacked up to double what it is supposed to be.
$7.99 at Kittery Trading Post
http://www.kitterytradingpost.com/fishing-marine/ice-fishing/augers-chisels/ht-enterprises-mini-nero-telescopic-russian-7-hand-auger-replacement-blade-kit-100018117.html?cgid=0#start=1 (http://www.kitterytradingpost.com/fishing-marine/ice-fishing/augers-chisels/ht-enterprises-mini-nero-telescopic-russian-7-hand-auger-replacement-blade-kit-100018117.html?cgid=0#start=1)
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Do I have a defective unit? I used it "manually" the other day... I think its TERRIBLE.
Initial bite in to the ice takes forever... it seems "wobbly" and wont catch the ice.
Once it does catch the ice - it goes through decently - but when its through I cant just PUSH DOWN AND PULL OUT (lol) as it leaves big chunky sharp edges?
**censored** am I doing wrong? Ive been using my lazer for 20 years!
I have not tried it on the drill yet
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That does not sound like how my Nero works.
I need very little down-force and it cuts like a knife through butter.
Perhaps either dull or bent??
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That does not sound like how my Nero works.
I need very little down-force and it cuts like a knife through butter.
Perhaps either dull or bent??
not dull... or bent that I can tell? Its brand new... hmmm
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not dull... or bent that I can tell? Its brand new... hmmm
Maybe it is an issue of the down-force? Very little should be applied. I am not sure what happens is a lot is applied.
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I got my 7" w/adapter etc. yesterday. Can't really imagine why one would want that side handle for drilling. It won't do a thing for leverage against the torque of the drill. Mine's off and am using the included handle with my Milwaukee M18.
Will be getting out soon to test it.
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Just found this video... seems just like he describes...
"a little awkward getting it started"
also look how wobbly the unit looks and how it doesnt grab the ice right off the bat...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-BTADABt8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-BTADABt8)
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Just found this video... seems just like he describes...
"a little awkward getting it started"
also look how wobbly the unit looks and how it doesnt grab the ice right off the bat...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-BTADABt8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-BTADABt8)
IMO the starting is not as instant as my Nils, but the cutting of the ice itself is similar but not quite as smooth. Honestly, I have not done many holes with it yet, waithing for Lake Trout season to open up. I bought it because it is easy, small and light and plan to use it to cut smaller holes than my 8 inch to drop the Livescope down for scouting fish. Once we find them, out comes the Nils.
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Used one Sunday. Loved the handle design. Would not replace my fin bore with one.
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Just found this video... seems just like he describes...
"a little awkward getting it started"
also look how wobbly the unit looks and how it doesnt grab the ice right off the bat...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-BTADABt8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-BTADABt8)
It looks awkward in his video because he isn't using the offset handle the way it is intended. He is keeping his top hand in one place instead of spinning the auger with it. Off set handles are made so both hands are moving in a circle not just one.
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It looks awkward in his video because he isn't using the offset handle the way it is intended. He is keeping his top hand in one place instead of spinning the auger with it. Off set handles are made so both hands are moving in a circle not just one.
I agree, he is trying to use it like the old Mora I had with the hockey puck handle on top.
It wanted to walk because the actual shaft was being "stirred" at an angle around the hole instead of being held perpendicular as designed.
Great observation! I will keep it in mind for my own Nero.
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hmm.. possibly what im doing
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At one point in the video he does use both hands and the auger rips. But most of the time no.
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It looks awkward in his video because he isn't using the offset handle the way it is intended. He is keeping his top hand in one place instead of spinning the auger with it. Off set handles are made so both hands are moving in a circle not just one.
Yup, I remember you making a post about this before. Its not the easiest transition to make (from one inline hand to two offset) The first few holes I have drilled have wobbled and skated, but as I get the motion down it is working better and better.
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For sure, that is the guy's problem. Like said, it's not the easiest transition to make for some folks.
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$7.99 at Kittery Trading Post
http://www.kitterytradingpost.com/fishing-marine/ice-fishing/augers-chisels/ht-enterprises-mini-nero-telescopic-russian-7-hand-auger-replacement-blade-kit-100018117.html?cgid=0#start=1 (http://www.kitterytradingpost.com/fishing-marine/ice-fishing/augers-chisels/ht-enterprises-mini-nero-telescopic-russian-7-hand-auger-replacement-blade-kit-100018117.html?cgid=0#start=1)
Damn, just paid 15 from cabelas.
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Finally got to try out my 7-inch mini auger. 3 days on the ice last weekend I use a Milwaukee M18 I also have a six inch nils. The Nero mini auger is a little violent till you learn how to run it not much of a learning curve cuts really fast. I cut off their handle and made a disc out of quarter inch plywood, and made a PVC blade cover. Thanks to everyone for the great ideas.
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Finally got to try out my 7-inch mini auger. 3 days on the ice last weekend I use a Milwaukee M18 I also have a six inch nils. The Nero mini auger is a little violent till you learn how to run it not much of a learning curve cuts really fast. I cut off their handle and made a disc out of quarter inch plywood, and made a PVC blade cover. Thanks to everyone for the great ideas.
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You didn't really cut off the handle did you? It unbolts real easy.
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You didn't really cut off the handle did you? It unbolts real easy.
Mine was already taken apart when I got it, so he'd have to bolt it on then chop the handle off lol.
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It only takes about 10 seconds to cut it off with a cut off wheel on angle grinder not a big deal guys..
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It only takes about 10 seconds to cut it off with a cut off wheel on angle grinder not a big deal guys..
But why cut it off when you can just not put it on in the first place?
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the Nero works incredibly well for me! It rips through the ice at a blazing speed. I don't notice any violent finish or catching with mine, but I have a big stature. The trick is getting the auger out. I run it full boar until it breaks through, then it requires a push down and a pull up. It pays to keep the auger straight as possible as well.
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I just bought the 7" after using the 6" for last season and this year early ice. If all goes well I'll be selling my 8" Eskimo propane. I really like the portability of the Nero compared to the Eskimo. Probably the best auger on the market for the price although I haven't tried the Strikemaster lazer. I use the handle adapter provided and haven't any problems.... yet ;)
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So, as just a hand auger, is the 7" do-able in say 12" of ice drilling 20 holes in a day? I don't have or want to buy a hammer drill.
I have a gas auger but use a 5" blue mora auger for early/late ice, and those times when I'm walking a long way out and want to travel light. I'm looking at upgrading that mora, and was thinking about a 6" Lazer, but if the Nero rips through the ice like everyone says, I'd rather have a 7" nero.
Cost is about the same but I like the price on the Nero replacement blades a lot more.
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So, as just a hand auger, is the 7" do-able in say 12" of ice drilling 20 holes in a day? I don't have or want to buy a hammer drill.
I have a gas auger but use a 5" blue mora auger for early/late ice, and those times when I'm walking a long way out and want to travel light. I'm looking at upgrading that mora, and was thinking about a 6" Lazer, but if the Nero rips through the ice like everyone says, I'd rather have a 7" nero.
Cost is about the same but I like the price on the Nero replacement blades a lot more.
If you go to here and scroll down until you see the video on the left of the blades you will see my video I sent them. I hadn't used a hand auger for over 20 years and as you will see I was going threw 12" of ice my first time out with my 7" Nero. Make sure you keep both handle's moving and it goes real easy. I could have drilled 20 holes that way and I'm 66 next month. http://htice.com/mini-nero-telescopic-russian-hand-auger-replacement-blades/#
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If you go to here and scroll down until you see the video on the left of the blades you will see my video I sent them. I hadn't used a hand auger for over 20 years and as you will see I was going threw 12" of ice my first time out with my 7" Nero. Make sure you keep both handle's moving and it goes real easy. I could have drilled 20 holes that way and I'm 66 next month. http://htice.com/mini-nero-telescopic-russian-hand-auger-replacement-blades/#
Wow, thanks. I hadn't seen that video posted anywhere. That looks like it would work.
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I bit the bullet and ordered the 7 inch. Hope it works well. Going on my milwuakee drill. Should cut thru like butter
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I bit the bullet and ordered the 7 inch. Hope it works well. Going on my milwuakee drill. Should cut thru like butter
I am sure it will.
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For those of you running a Ridgid Octane with this what do you have your settings at? I’ve read different things, I know you want the slower speed but I’m wondering about the others
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For those of you running a Ridgid Octane with this what do you have your settings at? I’ve read different things, I know you want the slower speed but I’m wondering about the others
Can only run them on setting one.
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For those of you running a Ridgid Octane with this what do you have your settings at? I’ve read different things, I know you want the slower speed but I’m wondering about the others
I don't have a ridgid but you want the Drill setting (not hammer), and the slowest speed. I believe the clutch doesn't factor in with the drill setting.
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Call me crazy but I think I have an idea for a safety in case the auger gets loose from the chuck....opinions? I’m pretty sure the stringer could hold it long enough, plus it’s loose and has the washer to help support
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mistertwister, That's OK; if it dosen't bind, somehoe, when drilling.
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mistertwister, That's OK; if it dosen't bind, somehoe, when drilling.
It’s kind of a “rough draft” it’s a silicone washer on there that I had laying around I’d replace that with a metal one and probably epoxy it to the top
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I have been having rust issues on my 7" blades, other than that I love the auger. These are from the thread in the gear section.
I had PMed lefty about the rust, pictured are my blades from a 7". New this season, Ive only used it ~8 times. The rust appeared after the first or second time using it, basically overnight.. I love the auger but this rust has me worried, I oil it with WD40 every night now (prob switch to something else soon) and the rust doesnt seem to be growing. Im sure if I skipped a day it would get worse. I have two additional sets purchased for when these eventually crap out. Like I said, love the auger, but felt like this should be out there. I know its just surface rust, but surface rust on a blade edge is trouble. I dont abuse my gear so this bummed me out.
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Note the corner on this one, has me worried.
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Left it in my car for about 16 hours before I could oil and the blades developed a good amount of additional surface rust.... the snow wasnt even thawed off the auger yet. damn..
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Ran out to the car to show the small additional rust that "grew" in under 16hours, in freezing temps. This is after a rub down with WD40 so its not as bad as it was before
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I would like to add that no one else in the other thread has shared this experience. I wonder if my blades came from a bad batch or they were made by a different mfg. I find it impossible to believe that I did something wrong or abused my auger. I may contact HT and see if they can make sense of it. If everyone had this experience I would not be recommending this auger to anyone. However that is not the case. Anyone else having this experience?
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no rust yet but I did notice a small chip in one my blades.doesnt effect cutting and it cuts so good just hand cranking im not putting it on my octane.it cuts so easy by hand!
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no rust yet but I did notice a small chip in one my blades.doesnt effect cutting and it cuts so good just hand cranking im not putting it on my octane.it cuts so easy by hand!
Do you do anything preventative? rag dry? oil?
I agree, my auger will cut through 10 inches in 15 seconds by hand, its crazy impressive.
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I dry off blades and cover then a little veg oil.they look brand new after about 60 holes except a small chip in a blade..veg oil is better for the environment then gun or any other oil.jmo
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no rust yet but I did notice a small chip in one my blades.doesnt effect cutting and it cuts so good just hand cranking im not putting it on my octane.it cuts so easy by hand!
I noticed with mine how good it cuts by hand, 7” blade was way easier than my 6” mora, the drill just takes it to a whole different level
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Haven't seen any rust on mine and it still cuts like new. Bear in mind that these blades are made of high carbon steel and as such will rust, unlike the softer stainless steels. As with high carbon Japanese knife steel and German tool steel, rust is not to be considered as a defect, but merely a characteristic of those specific alloys. I have high confidence that the Russian metallurgists who developed this steel were looking for hardness and abrasion resistance and were willing to accept cosmetic rust in the trade-off. WD40 or other rust inhibiting coating should keep them shiny.
PS-- take a little 00 steel wool or some emery cloth to clean them up and then oil to protect.
PPS-- I use a 7" Nero hooked to a Ridgid Octane through a Kovac adaptor and my decades long auger quest is over. Blew through over a grand worth of augers to learn the lesson.
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Well these are after 8 trips this year. AS you can see one little spot of slight surface rust. Not oiling them and not drying them off.
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PS-- take a little 00 steel wool or some emery cloth to clean them up and then oil to protect.
Wont micro abrasions of the surface actual encourage surface rust? It would have to be polished again to maintain?
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Wont micro abrasions of the surface actual encourage surface rust? It would have to be polished again to maintain?
Polishing just gives you micro micro abrasions. That's just for the cosmetic effect if you find the rust unsightly. In any case, polished or not, you need to keep away moisture and air to prevent oxidation (rust) from forming. Oils or light grease can do that job.
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I'll have to check my blades out for rust. I've just been throwing it in the back of the 4Runner. I might have to give it a shot of "Water Displacement, 40th formula" (WD-40) after I use it. The replacement blades are so cheap it doesn't really matter though.
Sucker still cuts nice!
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This is my second season with the Nero and it has seen the ice at least 75 times or more. I ice fish almost every day of the week. The blades have some surface rust and a few nicks from drilling in bad ice. I never wipe the blades dry and I spray them once a week with some WD40. Performance has never degraded.
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