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Title: Hyfax rails
Post by: Ronnie D on Jul 29, 2022, 07:11 PM
Tree branch fell on da shed & crushed a smitty that i just built last summer.
Not up for another build so I'm going w/ da jet sleds. My question is : do hyfax kit make for an easier drag or are they used for wear &  tear. I really don't want to spend 60.00 to prevent wear on a 75.00 sled.
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Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: meandcuznalfy on Jul 29, 2022, 08:26 PM
Dam, that sucks, I think they just help with wear and tear on the sled.
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: jrjach75 on Jul 30, 2022, 06:04 AM
I put some uhmw runners on my sled last season after 2 or 3 seasons without. I just used homemade, cut strips from a sheet rescued out of the scrap bin.
On concrete or bare ice, no question it slides a lot easier. Once there was snow/slush or pulling through the woods there wasn’t any difference, but it didn’t hurt either.
My sled was getting thin spots in the rear corners, hoping these runners give me a few more seasons with it.
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jul 30, 2022, 06:39 AM
In moderate snow conditions 4 inches or less there is a difference ...after that its best to use a Smitty Sled .Also the sled will tend to track better when pulled behind an ATV/snowmoble with the hyfax/runner kit.
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jul 30, 2022, 03:54 PM
I dont think they make it pull easier at all really.saves the sled but a smitty is a great improvement for pulling and protects the sled.I would build another smitty before hyfax.jmo
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: nindo24 on Jul 30, 2022, 03:54 PM
Tree branch fell on da shed & crushed a smitty that i just built last summer.
Not up for another build so I'm going w/ da jet sleds. My question is : do hyfax kit make for an easier drag or are they used for wear &  tear. I really don't want to spend 60.00 to prevent wear on a 75.00 sled.
Swift Tines

Where are you shopping that you're spending $60 on a hyfax kit??
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jul 31, 2022, 07:37 AM
Where are you shopping that you're spending $60 on a hyfax kit??

More then likely it is Amazon pricing ...stock at most other retailers looks to be depledted... with the  assumption he has a Shappel Jet Sled . I know hyfax/runner kits for flip overs have not budged.. going anywher from $50 to $75 . Kittery Trading Post usually has them in stock in the begining of the season ...they offer discount codes quite often . Recommend the OP sign up for their Emails to keep on top of the codes.
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: Rebelss on Jul 31, 2022, 08:01 AM
https://www.amazon.com/HDPE-SLED-HYFAX-Runner-KIT/dp/B003KZ0MSW/ref=asc_df_B003KZ0MSW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312075492617&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11673583839246703801&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019794&hvtargid=pla-559491946452&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=67626973412&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312075492617&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11673583839246703801&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019794&hvtargid=pla-559491946452
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jul 31, 2022, 09:34 AM
https://www.amazon.com/HDPE-SLED-HYFAX-Runner-KIT/dp/B003KZ0MSW/ref=asc_df_B003KZ0MSW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312075492617&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11673583839246703801&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019794&hvtargid=pla-559491946452&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=67626973412&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312075492617&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11673583839246703801&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019794&hvtargid=pla-559491946452

I purchased that kit ...it will be going on my Jet Sled 1 before the start of the season ...my concern is that the screws screw from inside/through the sled and then into the hyfax not certain that the best way of securring them   as both the Shappel hyfax and the Frabill hyfax kits I have installed on  Jet Sled XL and my two flip over tubs  bolt from the bottom through the hyfax then through the bottom of the sled/tub . Both the Frabill and Shappel came with good hardware .
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: filetandrelease on Jul 31, 2022, 10:11 AM
 Eskimo kits come with a counter sink tool
 And are UHMWPE
 I’m fortunate to have a plastic shop near by that sells it
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jul 31, 2022, 11:32 AM
Eskimo kits come with a counter sink tool
 And are HDPE ,
 I’m fortunate to have a plastic shop near by that sells it

I am in souther NY does this company have a website by chance ?

Heads up both the Shappell and Frabill kits come predrilled and countersunk as well .

Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: filetandrelease on Jul 31, 2022, 01:27 PM
I am in souther NY does this company have a website by chance ?

Heads up both the Shappell and Frabill kits come predrilled and countersunk as well .
Yes I know  but changing out let’s say  from otter or clam , holes won’t match up
 clam so without you can line them up yourself
 
They like to sell sheets
https://www.polymershapes.com/locations/syracuse/
 
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: filetandrelease on Jul 31, 2022, 02:23 PM
One of the must-have kits in your home drill bit sets....you'll use 'em for everything...I sure do.
(https://i.postimg.cc/876gy5Yr/csink.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/876gy5Yr)
This one comes with their  kit , bottom it out and done , impossible to over or under countersink 😉
(https://i.postimg.cc/0zdnqP3N/F44-DE0-A0-DC0-C-436-A-A9-FD-1-EE250633546.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zdnqP3N)
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: mbart on Jul 31, 2022, 03:33 PM
I use a forstner drill bit
https://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-1-in-forstner-drill-bit-set-with-38-in-shanks-7-pc-62361.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12126402660&campaign
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: Ronnie D on Jul 31, 2022, 04:16 PM
Yea the jet sled kit is on Amazon for 57.00, but the one for. my trekker is only 27.00
Personally i prefer step drill bits. Put some tape on the shank where you want to stop & the hole is tapered.
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jul 31, 2022, 05:03 PM
Yea the jet sled kit is on Amazon for 57.00, but the one for. my trekker is only 27.00
Personally i prefer step drill bits. Put some tape on the shank where you want to stop & the hole is tapered.

Where are you finding the Frabill Trekker hyfax for $27 ? That is really not to bad of a price .
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: Rebelss on Jul 31, 2022, 05:41 PM
I prefer carbide smooth-bore tapered countersink bits with a tall cold Miller longneck.  ;D
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 01, 2022, 05:51 PM
Yes I know  but changing out let’s say  from otter or clam , holes won’t match up
 clam so without you can line them up yourself
 
They like to sell sheets
https://www.polymershapes.com/locations/syracuse/
I’ll be ready soon to order a sheet of that Freddie. And, can you get me one of those bits?👍🏻
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: filetandrelease on Aug 02, 2022, 07:50 AM
I’ll be ready soon to order a sheet of that Freddie. And, can you get me one of those bits?👍🏻
If I can’t , your welcome to use mine
 Let me know when you pick it up I’ll split the cost , they may have a sheet in stock , they did when I last spoke with them
 
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: Ronnie D on Aug 02, 2022, 04:03 PM
Where are you finding the Frabill Trekker hyfax for $27 ? That is really not to bad of a price .

Same page on Amazon as the jet sled ones, but my trekker is made by Pelican
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: hardwater diehard on Aug 07, 2022, 07:02 AM
Same page on Amazon as the jet sled ones, but my trekker is made by Pelican

Sent you two PM's .
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: rdhammah on Aug 07, 2022, 07:56 AM
https://www.amazon.com/HDPE-SLED-HYFAX-Runner-KIT/dp/B003KZ0MSW/ref=d_pd_day0_sccl_2_2/146-4541320-3848420?pd_rd_w=3wlWN&content-id=amzn1.sym.8ca997d7-1ea0-4c8f-9e14-a6d756b83e30&pf_rd_p=8ca997d7-1ea0-4c8f-9e14-a6d756b83e30&pf_rd_r=SYDE8SHCHNMWEVDWYPK7&pd_rd_wg=yGBDA&pd_rd_r=b1f29ac3-f3e4-4005-a0ae-7d54131b8368&pd_rd_i=B003KZ0MSW&psc=1
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: hardwater diehard on Aug 07, 2022, 08:04 AM
https://www.amazon.com/HDPE-SLED-HYFAX-Runner-KIT/dp/B003KZ0MSW/ref=d_pd_day0_sccl_2_2/146-4541320-3848420?pd_rd_w=3wlWN&content-id=amzn1.sym.8ca997d7-1ea0-4c8f-9e14-a6d756b83e30&pf_rd_p=8ca997d7-1ea0-4c8f-9e14-a6d756b83e30&pf_rd_r=SYDE8SHCHNMWEVDWYPK7&pd_rd_wg=yGBDA&pd_rd_r=b1f29ac3-f3e4-4005-a0ae-7d54131b8368&pd_rd_i=B003KZ0MSW&psc=1

Yes..


(https://i.postimg.cc/WFdkFQM2/hyfax.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFdkFQM2)

I bought a set of "used" from the Amazon Warehouse..the packaging was destroyed but it contain all good hyfax and hardware .
Title: Re: Hyfax rails
Post by: Ronnie D on Aug 07, 2022, 05:52 PM
Thanks for the vine hardwater.
Ordered 1 & if they fit the jetsled too I'll be able to do em both for under 35.00

Swift Tines