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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: pisces on Oct 14, 2014, 02:22 PM
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As someone else pointed out Sportsman Direct has something similar called a Flat Line rod out . It's only 8 and 10 dollars compared to $49.99 for the Tickle Stick. Does anyone have any experience with the Flat Line rod?
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Just like anything else, if you want one you will pay the price for the name and the hype. Sportsmans direct's flat line rod is 9.99 for a 32in. I'm sure there are some differences but not sure there would be $40 difference. Have not used either, just basing this assumption off the way marketing and businesses operate. By the way, Sportsmans offered these in Oct of 13 so don't believe all the hype that the tickle stick is the first and best and greatest and blah blah flat rod on the market. I'm not saying its junk by any means, just saying the tickle stick is probably not worth 4x the money. Could very well be wrong.....
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I guess I don't quite understand the advantage of the tickle stick. Don't spring bobbers work well enough?
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I recently ordered the flat lines with in line reels. Very inexpensive so we will see. If nothing else, I have more combos in the ice fever collection. ;D
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I ordered the 32 inch and the 24 inch for 18 bucks worth a shot . I want to compare against the Tickle Stick but I am not going to spend 49.99 dollars though.
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I checked out the tickle sticks today at a local store.
Just couldn't bring myself to getting one because to me there was way to much noodle and not enough backbone.
I'll let everyone else try them out and see if they change anything on the next revision.
Ended up picking up a no.8 Snitch and the CGI reel.
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LateSeason, was that rod the super ultra light? One of our members mentioned he thought the 27" ultra light was pretty stiff except for the tip....just wondering....haven't had a chance to hold one yet.....appreciate the info.
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What is the action on the 24" flat line rod?? Just curious, think I'm gonna buy one from Sportsmens Direct.
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Yea I looked at both web sites and looked at the Tickle stick on Youtube. If I was in the market for a new rod I would be buying the Flat Line to try out. Looks good to me.
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just emailed sportsmen's direct. will see what they say
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LateSeason, was that rod the super ultra light? One of our members mentioned he thought the 27" ultra light was pretty stiff except for the tip....just wondering....haven't had a chance to hold one yet.....appreciate the info.
The 27" lite was stiffer and had more backbone, but i didn't care for the eyelets. Not to say they don't work better or any different then the standard ones.
The end eyelets just seemed small and looked like they would build up ice.
I just wasn't willing to make the $50 gamble. Might next year after we hear some reports on how they actually work.
The build quality on the tickle sticks looked excellent. Didn't notice any aberrations in the shaft, wrapping, eyelets, glue etc between the different tickle sticks I looked at.
Those of you who are getting the Flat Line rods, please report back here with your opinions.
Just and fyi, I tend to gravitate towards rods that have a sensitive tip yet plenty back bone.
If the rod will bend 3/4 the way to the handle its to much of a noodle for me.
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we'll see how it works. be nice if the tip is close to a jm meat stick and be durable as they say. ordered one today.
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I just got a 24" flatline rod last week. I had a hard time justifying the price of ticklestick when I was looking at an ultralight. The tip feels a lot like a flat metal spring bobber, I can easily bend it back 180 degrees, should work very nicely. The rest of the rod feels stiffer than any UL rod I've ever used, but I think that's a good thing, feels like I'd get some better hook sets than my "regular" UL Berkley rods. The handle and overall quality seems really good for an $8 rod. I'd buy these over the Ice Blues for sure.
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The flatline rod is meant to be used as a deadstick but theyre also door those who like to watch the tip when they jig
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The 27" lite was stiffer and had more backbone, but i didn't care for the eyelets. Not to say they don't work better or any different then the standard ones.
The end eyelets just seemed small and looked like they would build up ice.
I just wasn't willing to make the $50 gamble. Might next year after we hear some reports on how they actually work.
The build quality on the tickle sticks looked excellent. Didn't notice any aberrations in the shaft, wrapping, eyelets, glue etc between the different tickle sticks I looked at.
Those of you who are getting the Flat Line rods, please report back here with your opinions.
Thank You.....Appreciate hearing your thoughts and reply. :thumbsup: :icefish:
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Iceshanty never fails me!!!! I came across the tickle stick for the first time yesterday, and walked away from it. Let me tell ya it wasn't easy but wanted to do some reading on them. The rod felt good in the hands, but. Didn't seem to have much back bone. I felt like it would be great for bluegill and smaller crappies. Anything bigger and I'm not sure it's going to have the power. That being said if you specialize gills it would be worth a shot.
Thanks for starting the thread, looking forward to hearing more.
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My 27" UL tickle stick has plenty of backbone.
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I ordered the UL and L. After reading all these posts starting to wonder if I made the wrong decision. Preordered and still waiting to get them yet.
Thanks for all the input.
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just emailed sportsmen's direct. will see what they say
here is their response: "24" is similar to a light action blank below the tip, while the 32" is similar to a ML/L action. We have quite a few customers that use the 32" as a dead stick walleye/big perch rod..."
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Im seeing people saying it has back bone and some saying it doesn't. What should i do ? get it or no
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I looked at the Tickle Sticks and feel $49.00 is kind of over priced. Decided to buy 2 flat line rods from Sportsman Direct. Got a 24" and a 32" for $17.00. From what I can tell they are pretty good rods, time will tell. The most I wouldbe out is $23.00 including shipping.
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Did the same thing last night DanJ. I wanted 2 of the TickleSticks as Christmas gifts for my sons, 1 for me, $150 plus S/H.
Ordered a couple 32" FlatRods as gifts...not a great loss if they're not that great...also not expecting a custom rod for 10 bucks either! I'm waiting to see and handle the TS myself. Thanks for all your opinions guys, keep them coming....that's what makes this site great! Tight lines! :icefish:
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I just ordered a 32" flatline for jigging spoons and dead sticking for walleye and northers. I will pair it with a Shimano Sonora 1000. I have been using a 32" ice blue and hate how if doubles over with a large fish.
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Im seeing people saying it has back bone and some saying it doesn't. What should i do ? get it or no
I would be waiting until the end of this season for the good reviews.
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Im seeing people saying it has back bone and some saying it doesn't. What should i do ? get it or no
I would recommend going somewhere you can hold the rod for yourself. Even tho I walked away from it the other day I might still end up picking it up.. I have 2 more rods built by 13 and really enjoy them well worth the money.
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I need a rod that isn't crazy expensive, i want something that a lot of people love and would recommend for not so much money . What are some suggestions?
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I need a rod that isn't crazy expensive, i want something that a lot of people love and would recommend for not so much money . What are some suggestions?
I thought you were getting 2 TS's Nick, did you change your mind?
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I thought you were getting 2 TS's Nick, did you change your mind?
With everyone all over i canceled my order.........
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With everyone all over i canceled my order.........
Got ya, well you can't go wrong with the wicked or whit noise they are nice.
You should really look into the meat stick line if you want UL the tip loads with the smallest of jigs and detects a lift bite.
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Got my flat line rod today and like it allot I put my inline on her for straight line fishing light bites. I'll be ordering one more of each tomorrow.
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Just got a 24" and a 32" Flat Liner today I like the 32 a lot, really don't care for the 24 but can't really say till I try it.
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got my 32 today and i would have to say it should work quit good. for ten bucks its hard to beat.
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Tickle stick is all hype just like 90% of ice gear. Just my opinion. A good glass noodle with soft tip will do just fine. Save your money. The flat line should do just fine for much cheaper.
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The 32 Flat Liner has plenty of back bone. I'm going to use it as a dead stick. At $10.00 it's a great rod. The tip is very light. I bent it all the way back to the next guide and think I could have gone around again. The eyes are pretty large. That was one thing I didn't like about the he Tickle Stick, small guides. The Flat Liner isn't in the same class as a custom noodle rod but for $10.00 it's pretty good.
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My motto is, you get what you pay for! I just got a Tickle Stick, and this thing is WELL worth the money! The reel seat is one of the best I've seen, and the eyelets are top notch. According to Matt from 13 Fishing, because the fibers run "linear" in the rod, not only will you be able to see the slightest bites, but feel them in the handle. He even claims that up-bite detection will be much easier. Do spring bobbers work? Absolutely! I still have a few rods with them on, but if I can get away without using one, I will. They're just one more thing to mess with when I could be reeling in fish. Obviously, I haven't tried out the Tickle Stick yet, but I can tell just by holding it and putting it through the motions that this rod will be my go to rod this year for panfish. Paired with a No 8 CGI reel, this thing should be stellar!!
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o654/egraham76/IMG_0404_zps360124ff.jpg) (http://s1336.photobucket.com/user/egraham76/media/IMG_0404_zps360124ff.jpg.html)
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Nice looking rig. To each their own. If you like and think it is money well spent then thumbs up! Enjoy and tight lines.
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I need a rod that isn't crazy expensive, i want something that a lot of people love and would recommend for not so much money . What are some suggestions?
I really like the Jason Mitchell Meat Sticks. They're not a ton of money and they are sweet rod.
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**No Warranty or Returns - Discontinued Model** New from frozen the mind of the Ice Hopper: The Flat Line Rod combines the visual sensitivity of a spring bobber and the near indestructibility of fiberglass.
Anyone else wonder about this? If its going to or is a very good rod why is it being discontinued? Im very interested in the TS and planned on getting 1 if not 2 but now you have sparked my curiosity. Although when you really look at the 2 rods they look nothing alike. All the eyes towards the end remind me of what most high end walleye rods look like. If anyone is getting both please share what you find.
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Those Flatline rods look like crap and probably are made like crap and probably fish like crap. I looked at them after reading this thread but I am still going with the SUL ticklestick for my panfish rod.
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Congratulations! I dont think any of us here are trying to sell FlatLine rods over TickleSticks. Just sharing opinions bro. Its the only option I'm aware of at the moment to a newer rod on the market thats $40 more, thats about it. You're $10 closer to your TS purchase....and that's great! ;D
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My motto is, you get what you pay for! I just got a Tickle Stick, and this thing is WELL worth the money! The reel seat is one of the best I've seen, and the eyelets are top notch. According to Matt from 13 Fishing, because the fibers run "linear" in the rod, not only will you be able to see the slightest bites, but feel them in the handle. He even claims that up-bite detection will be much easier. Do spring bobbers work? Absolutely! I still have a few rods with them on, but if I can get away without using one, I will. They're just one more thing to mess with when I could be reeling in fish. Obviously, I haven't tried out the Tickle Stick yet, but I can tell just by holding it and putting it through the motions that this rod will be my go to rod this year for panfish. Paired with a No 8 CGI reel, this thing should be stellar!!
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o654/egraham76/IMG_0404_zps360124ff.jpg) (http://s1336.photobucket.com/user/egraham76/media/IMG_0404_zps360124ff.jpg.html)
So the ticklestick is basically a power noodle? For the price of one, you'd almost be at the price of a power noodle???
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Those Flatline rods look like crap and probably are made like crap and probably fish like crap. I looked at them after reading this thread but I am still going with the SUL ticklestick for my panfish rod.
I thinks the build on the FL is good and I'm sure it will fish fine. I was messing with it last night and really like it.
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So the ticklestick is basically a power noodle? For the price of one, you'd almost be at the price of a power noodle???
I don't have any experience with the Power Noodle but I do know that the Tickle Stick is sweet. It all comes down to personal preference in the end. If the FL rod is what you want, that's what your gonna get! I bought the TS because the concept is sweet and I wanted to try it
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So the ticklestick is basically a power noodle? For the price of one, you'd almost be at the price of a power noodle???
Ok ill get one.... Should i get light or ultralight because i will be using this for perch as well
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since this is the 1st year for the TS, i,m sure it will be around for some time. i hope those who have got them will give a review on IS early enough that us who haven,t can decide if this rod is the real deal. i, like many, want some positive feed back from real fishermen before i plunk down 50 bucks(not that prostaff aren,t real, just they,re so much better f,men than me, i want opinions of guys like me who fish for fun.
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I don't have any experience with the Power Noodle but I do know that the Tickle Stick is sweet. It all comes down to personal preference in the end. If the FL rod is what you want, that's what your gonna get! I bought the TS because the concept is sweet and I wanted to try it
I think that's what the original post was pointing out the two rods concept is the same with a flat tip.
I'm a sucker for new rods and I'll more than likely have a TS or 2 when I have some cash to play with but for now I'll be rocking the FL.
Ok ill get one.... Should i get light or ultralight because i will be using this for perch as well
You have 2 wicked UL rods now I'd go with the 27" UL that would make a nice dead stick or jig rod.
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You have 2 wicked UL rods now I'd go with the 27" UL that would make a nice dead stick or jig rod.
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I have a white noise ul and a white noise ml, so your saying an ul would be best or should i get a l?
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You have 2 wicked UL rods now I'd go with the 27" UL that would make a nice dead stick or jig rod.
I have a white noise ul and a white noise ml, so your saying an ul would be best or should i get a l?
I see, UL for small tear drop type jigs or L for jigging raps and spoons. What reel are thinking of pairing it with?
A straight line multiplying real would be killer for straight line fishing. I put a eagle claw on my flat line rod but I don't recommend it the reel sucks I basically rebuilt the dam thing so it would work. I'm looking in to the tight line plus for my next in line.
https://www.sportsmensdirect.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=4350&osCsid=2vv7474tpuu17t935t3if7iae4
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I'm just a lover of all things 13. I have had great luck with their products, and customer service. A friend of mine had a open water rod break 6" from the tip. Not only did they send a new one at no charge, but they sent a hat with it. He didn't even pay for the original rod, he won it on one of their Facebook contests!
I have one of each of their rods, Whitenoise, Whiteout, Wicked, and now a Tickle Stick. I love using the wicked, and may look at getting another one when they go on clearance in the spring.
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I have never held the tickle stick but I have held a DH custom noodle and I can guarantee there is no mass produced rod that compares so if you are going to spend $50 on a tickle stick you just as well save $15 more bucks and buy a DH noodle rod w/ reg fly guides. Tickle stick is all hype and I say this without even holding one, just know how marketing works. If you honestly believe there is something special/different about the TS compared to a GOOD noodle rod like DH or TB or TUCR, you've been caught (pun intended).
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So if you've never held it, how can you compare it?
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I'm just a lover of all things 13. I have had great luck with their products, and customer service. A friend of mine had a open water rod break 6" from the tip. Not only did they send a new one at no charge, but they sent a hat with it. He didn't even pay for the original rod, he won it on one of their Facebook contests!
I have one of each of their rods, Whitenoise, Whiteout, Wicked, and now a Tickle Stick. I love using the wicked, and may look at getting another one when they go on clearance in the spring.
I know what your saying I'm a 13 fan also and have a wicked and like it but use my meat stick more.
I'll have a TS by next season I'm sure. I had the tip break on a meatstick and they sent me a pile of stickers iceforce discount card and a new rod.
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So if you've never held it, how can you compare it?
Like I said, I don't need to. I've watched the videos etc and know how marketing works. Just me being stubborn maybe idk? By the way, I'm not saying its junk, just saying your money can be better spent elsewhere imo.
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I will say this I got the 23 sul ticklestick rod and compared it to 2 of the top name brand power noodles that I own and use and the tickle stick is more sensitive at the tip then both power noodles. a 3mm jig loads it more then both of them. I am still waiting for a 27ul rod that should be here in a few more days. and will compare it to this one also. true test will be when we get ice and actually use it.
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I've seen this debate carrying on for some time now, so i decided i'm getting both and fishing both to give a solid review on here. I bought the Tickle Stick as soon as it was available at my local bait shop because I went and looked at them and held it, and it is a VERY nice rod. Not just all hype. Not saying its better than anything else out there, just saying it is very nice. I just placed an order for 2 24" and 1 32" Flat Line rods (can't go wrong for the price...always good to have a few back ups). As soon as I am able to get out on the ice, i will let everyone know what i think of both.
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Went into Scheels today and saw they had them out and will be buying a TS or 2 once it gets a little closer to season. It felt great and seems to be a quality set up. I did also see #8 Tackle which is made by 13, also had a nice rod with a sensitive tip called The Snitch. Has anyone used this rod?
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I purchased the snitch last week. Should be an excellent perch rod.
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what type of reel is on that one you have? And what would be the best reel to put on the tickle stick? ???
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what type of reel is on that one you have? And what would be the best reel to put on the tickle stick? ???
6061 Black Betty. Gander Mnt has them on a wicked good sale right now for half off!!
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6061 Black Betty. Gander Mnt has them on a wicked good sale right now for half off!!
Be careful of 6061 @ half price. It's last years model and right hand. You reel with your right hand????
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I'll stick with my Celsius boiling point 30" UL can see every hit even from minnows
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Be careful of 6061 @ half price. It's last years model and right hand. You reel with your right hand????
Yup, I sure do!! I guess I'm one of the "backwards" folks that's right handed, and I reel with my right hand. I have a good buddy of mine that ordered the left hand version and he got it for the sale price also, but it's backordered and he won't get it until December. Furthermore, what's the difference between last year's and this year's model??
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Got my Flat Line rods today, and I have to admit, I was pleasantly surprised at the build of them. The pictures on their site don't really make them look worth a crap, but they are a bit nicer than I anticipated. Still not in the same class as the Tickle Stick by any means, but I think it will work pretty well. Lots of backbone, but i fear if you get into a fish that requires the use of that much backbone, it may snap. The tip is really floppy on the Flat Line, whereas the Tickle Stick is a little more solid, which seems it will transmit the feel of a bite as well as the visual cue of a bite instead of just the visual cue. If i were worried about the price, I would feel fine with the Flat Line. If i was worried more about quality and longevity, I'd go with the Tickle Stick. These are obviously all preliminary reviews of course. Once the hard water arrives, i'll be able to give a better review.
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Yup, I sure do!! I guess I'm one of the "backwards" folks that's right handed, and I reel with my right hand. I have a good buddy of mine that ordered the left hand version and he got it for the sale price also, but it's backordered and he won't get it until December. Furthermore, what's the difference between last year's and this year's model??
This year's Model: Black Betty 2015
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/15722/product_image/thm/t440_fe665ac2b4f56e677a160882c2109800.jpg?1409169961)
Last Year's 6061:
(http://www.marinegeneral.com/images/productimages/black-betty-6061-2%20copy.jpg)
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Be careful of 6061 @ half price. It's last years model and right hand. You reel with your right hand????
I just bought 2 of them at half price from Gander mountain as well.
I could care less that it's last years model. Thats the model thats already been tested and approved by everyone.
watching their youtube video it looks like ~3 minutes to switch from right to left hand retrieve.
And really simple to do. So regardless of which hand I reel with the switch is easy.
Here is the video on how to switch it that I saw posted elsewhere on Iceshanty.
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I had very similar thoughts on the FlatRod as well when mine arrived Evers. Still haven't handled the TS yet, but hopefully soon. Thanks for your early reviews! Look forward to more once the ice arrives.
I didn't expect a custom rod for $10, and comparing it to a TS or a good noodle rod was not really my objective.
I simply purchased them as gifts so my sons could be in the new game with this type ice rod and not send out a $100 plus on something I hadn't handled. To be honest, I didn't even order one for myself....but I'm going to. :icefish:
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;D I just got my Tickle Stick 23"SUL from FishUsa this afternoon and out of some 35 different combos ( quite a few Custom Rods to) find this little rod is pretty AWESOME. I think a #3 Tungsten loads the tip just nicely. The quality and wormanship is very good. How it works on the ice?? I will let you know.But it will be the 1ST out of the rodbox.
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What would be the best length and power to get in the TS? I mainly fish bluegill, crappie, perch.
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I received my ts last week, put it in a stick jacket for protection, pulled it back out a few days latter and the tip was broken off. Returned it to Cabela's today!
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there is a you tube video on how to store your tickle stick. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=739948879391558&set=vb.115329578520161&type=3&video_source=pages_video_set
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I have a feeling these two rods have the same blank, there both pretty gimmicky seems like there just trying to copy the power noodle and try and make it different so everyone has to have one. For the cost of trying both you can just buy a power noodle or meatstick. I don't buy into the noodle rod I like my graphite rods and when I'm fishing lighter jigs I can watch my line coil or with heavier jigs I have a rod that can much better present my jig and feel everything as well.
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The Flat Line was released last year by Sportsmen's and was the 1st to my knowledge to offer this type of blank. It is new blank tech to the ice market. The idea of both the Flat Line and the tickle stick is to have the blank tip act has your spring bobber. I was told by the guys at Sportsmens that they adjusted there tip to work with tungsten jigs for gills and sunnies from size 3mm to 6mm. So you can see both negative and positive bites. They also made sure it had large guides to help reduce ice up problems. This is where the ticklestick might have some issues in my eyes, for the guys that bucket fish all day. The spit and polish on the Tickle stick is a bit sharper looking but I do think its a tad over priced. I think it would be better priced at $34.99 on the high side.
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direct from Sportsmen's: "Yes, this model was offered last season and is being offered at close out prices. But with all the attention it is getting this year, we will likely bring it back with a couple design tweaks."
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The Flat Line was released last year by Sportsmen's and was the 1st to my knowledge to offer this type of blank. It is new blank tech to the ice market. The idea of both the Flat Line and the tickle stick is to have the blank tip act has your spring bobber. I was told by the guys at Sportsmens that they adjusted there tip to work with tungsten jigs for gills and sunnies from size 3mm to 6mm. So you can see both negative and positive bites. They also made sure it had large guides to help reduce ice up problems. This is where the ticklestick might have some issues in my eyes, for the guys that bucket fish all day. The spit and polish on the Tickle stick is a bit sharper looking but I do think its a tad over priced. I think it would be better priced at $34.99 on the high side.
Give it a year, I'm sure it will be.
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The only thing I can see that's a big difference between the FL & the TS is the reel seats. The TS had a much nicer and more solid reel seat where, from what I can see, the FL rod has the plain cork style that requires heat shrink, zip ties, etc. What I use on this style reel seat is a non adhesive, self bonding electrical tape that I picked up at a farm show a few years back. It just so happens that Gander sells it also.
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Rescue-Tape&i=79994&r=view&cvsfa=2586&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=3739393934&kpid=79994&gclid=CKKwqN2o3cECFaZj7AodnRcAAA
The more I think about the FL rod, the more I think I'll probably get one. Heck, you can't go wrong at $10!!
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Ordered the 32" FL rod last night! I think I'll put the No 8 CGI reel on it that I put on my new Tickle Stick, and put the 6061 Black Betty that I just got today on the Tickle Stick.
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I ordered two of the shorter FlatLine rods to try out, as well as two of their cheap inline reels. I figured they would probably be the same quality as the Frabill StarightLine 101 combos that cost twice the price, and if not I can just keep them in the back of my truck or something for spontaneous ice fishing oppurtunities.
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I got 2 of the shorter Flat Lines the other day. They are well worth the money and seem to be pretty decent quality. They are a very stiff, after the spring, for me, but will work great for panfish.
Again, overall they are more than worth the 8 bucks each to me.
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Imagine how exuberant the reports will be when some have actually used these rods
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I have been using Cadillac Elite Rods for ultra light ice fishing for years. They are my favorite ultra-lite rod bar none.
If you plan on getting new ultra-lite rods you defiantly what to at least take a look at these.
This i s the web site http://www.pilgrimvillagefishing.com/cadillacelite.html
I copied the information below from their site, I didn't post the pictures but you can see them on the web site.
Cadillac Elite Ice Rods
Because he couldn't find an ice rod that meet his needs for panfish and the light bite of smelt, Steve Knaisel designed the CADILLAC ELITE ICE ROD.
With a rod tip so limber, that there is no need to add a spring bobber, it is sensitive enough to detect the lite bite of a smelt.
The rod guides are large enough not to freeze up, yet light enough not to slow the rods action. The handle has the rod blank running all the way through it to keep it from getting soft and spongy after a lot of use. The CADILLAC ELITE rod handle comes with a real reel seat, that will hold your favorite ice reel securely in place. All have hook keepers. All sizes balance with your favorite Hali Jig.
The CADILLAC ELITE ROD not only works for smelt fishing, it is also great for the ultra-lite panfish anglers.
The CADILLAC ELITE ROD comes in three lenghts, 24", 30" and 36". They retail for:
24" - $14.99
30" - $15.99
36" - $16.99
You can order a CADILLAC ELITE ROD by calling
231-775-5412 or email [email protected].
Cadillac Elite Rods
181 S. Lake Mitchell Dr.
Cadillac, Michigan 49601
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This year's Model: Black Betty 2015
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/15722/product_image/thm/t440_fe665ac2b4f56e677a160882c2109800.jpg?1409169961)
Last Year's 6061:
(http://www.marinegeneral.com/images/productimages/black-betty-6061-2%20copy.jpg)
the top silver is this years model.
the bottom black/gold is a two year old model.
last years model is black/silver and looks like black/gold one.
All previous year models are able to change the side in which you reel with.
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I got two of the 24" flatline rods. They seem to be pretty nice quality, however the backbone is very stiff.. Like medium-action rod stiff.. However, with the soft tip that might help combat the stiffness, time will tell
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Just ordered my super ultra light tickle stick. It should arrive by Friday!
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ordered flat line rods last sat night and had them at my door Thurs. a little stiffer than expected, but hope they do their job without breaking the tip off.
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I also got the 32" Flatline Rod. It's nice, but I like the Tickle Stick better as far as quality. But for $10, you can't go wrong with this pole!
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Just in case anyone is interested I saw this deal on Ebay that seems pretty good . Eagle Claw 24" Cold Smoke Ultra Light Rod w/ 5 Bearing Inline Reel for only 19.99 plus shipping. I think I've seen just the reel go for almost $50? It looks like there are 6 left... http://www.ebay.com/itm/121443696464?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Just in case anyone is interested I saw this deal on Ebay that seems pretty good . Eagle Claw 24" Cold Smoke Ultra Light Rod w/ 5 Bearing Inline Reel for only 19.99 plus shipping. I think I've seen just the reel go for almost $50? It looks like there are 6 left... http://www.ebay.com/itm/121443696464?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I picked one up from that sale a few weeks ago when someone posted it. Even shipping to canada and conversion it came in cheaper than it sells for here. Came packed well and in beand new condition. Highly recommend for anyone interested.
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I have been using Cadillac Elite Rods for ultra light ice fishing for years. They are my favorite ultra-lite rod bar none.
If you plan on getting new ultra-lite rods you defiantly what to at least take a look at these.
This i s the web site http://www.pilgrimvillagefishing.com/cadillacelite.html
I copied the information below from their site, I didn't post the pictures but you can see them on the web site.
Cadillac Elite Ice Rods
Because he couldn't find an ice rod that meet his needs for panfish and the light bite of smelt, Steve Knaisel designed the CADILLAC ELITE ICE ROD.
With a rod tip so limber, that there is no need to add a spring bobber, it is sensitive enough to detect the lite bite of a smelt.
The rod guides are large enough not to freeze up, yet light enough not to slow the rods action. The handle has the rod blank running all the way through it to keep it from getting soft and spongy after a lot of use. The CADILLAC ELITE rod handle comes with a real reel seat, that will hold your favorite ice reel securely in place. All have hook keepers. All sizes balance with your favorite Hali Jig.
The CADILLAC ELITE ROD not only works for smelt fishing, it is also great for the ultra-lite panfish anglers.
The CADILLAC ELITE ROD comes in three lenghts, 24", 30" and 36". They retail for:
24" - $14.99
30" - $15.99
36" - $16.99
You can order a CADILLAC ELITE ROD by calling
231-775-5412 or email [email protected].
Cadillac Elite Rods
181 S. Lake Mitchell Dr.
Cadillac, Michigan 49601
Those Cadillac elite rods are nothing more than ice blue blanks in the same colors has schooley makes there identical rods. All three are basically the samething.
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Just in case anyone is interested I saw this deal on Ebay that seems pretty good . Eagle Claw 24" Cold Smoke Ultra Light Rod w/ 5 Bearing Inline Reel for only 19.99 plus shipping. I think I've seen just the reel go for almost $50? It looks like there are 6 left... http://www.ebay.com/itm/121443696464?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
with the shipping, is about he same price as buying from Dick's ...and if you don't like it, you can return to store.
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Those Cadillac elite rods are nothing more than ice blue blanks in the same colors has schooley makes there identical rods. All three are basically the samething.
I just happen to have a HT Ice Blues Rod and several Cadillac Elite Rods, lets compare them.
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Ice Blues 24" Rod
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Cadillac Elite 24" rod
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At first glance they don't look like the same thing. the Elite has a different diameter blank that runs through the handle. it also has more backbone and a faster tip, at least from my experience with them. They even appear to have different colors from butt to tip
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The Elite has a real reel seat and a hook holder.
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a537/joeintc/cadillacelite003_zps704c791d.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/joeintc/media/cadillacelite003_zps704c791d.jpg.html)
The Elite has a slightly larger diameter handle that is far more stable.
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The Elite has larger eyelets to help eliminate freeze up.
I have used both and caught lots of fish with both. But I prefer the Elite rods over other ones I have tried.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I think this is one of the best lite rods for the money.
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My interest is peaked with these Cadillac rods. Are they really "Cadillacs??"
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for that price, it's worth it just for the real seat! what's the
shipping charge?
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I like them.
But you will have to contact pilgrims village on shipping cost, I'm not sure what they charge.
With any luck we will have safe ice around Thanksgiving. :tipup:
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I like them.
But you will have to contact pilgrims village on shipping cost, I'm not sure what they charge.
With any luck we will have safe ice around Thanksgiving. :tipup:
Where the heck you at?? Saskatchewan?!
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I tried a Flat Rod today. The 24in. What little I used it was good. From the boat I would like a longer one.
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They did offer a 32 inch version.
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I tried a Flat Rod today. The 24in. What little I used it was good. From the boat I would like a longer one.
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I like the 32 inch the best out of the flat line models.
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Lol they look goofy imo. Checked one out today at PTO wasn't impressed I'd use an HT Blue over that tickle me elmo stick any day of the week.
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I would not recommend the tickle stick to anyone. I went to cabelas and some were broke already and they felt very weak and brittle. So I went with the St. Croix legend silver rod for ten bucks more then the tickle stick. The best decision ever I love it. Just my opinion. :thumbsup: :icefish:
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In the last couple weeks i have aquired the 27'' tickle stick, 28'' jason mitchell meat stick, and 3 new 32'' custom rods from a buddy who started building his own rods. Not having used any of them yet i will point out that neither the tickle stick or the meat stick hold a candle to the customs, especially the custom noodle rod. The other two even far exceed the capabilities of the two ''store bought" rods. I am a bit leery of the brittleness of the tickle stick but have winched it over and it seems to have enough backbone, not real fond of the end eyelets at all but it is the Ole Ladys rod for when she wants to go with me on a warm day. Anxious to see how it will perform. The jason mitchell meatsick i am actually suprised with, its no custom but after being through nearly every rod on the shelf that cabelas has to offer in the store i would pick it over any of them, but its purely a feel preference for me, nothing more, there are others that i would have to say are better but i dont like the feel of them. Are the tickle stick and meat stick worth the price tag (meat stick was purchased used), no they arent worth it... but they arent worthless either, i feel it will come back to preference and fishing style, they still are very decent rods, but not a custom by no means at all. Looking forward to ice to put the batch of new rods through the paces this winter. Maybe then i can fill in on the performance a little better.
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Mail man just delivered my 23" SUL Ticklestick. Lines it up with a spinning real and some 2LB Pline Floroclear tied to a size 12 gill pill. The tip is extremely sensitive more sensitive than most spring bobbers. The tip also loads up nicely with the gill pill on it which will make it easy to see negative bites. Yes it does have a crazy amount of backbone. I don't know how I feel about this yet. Supposively it is supposed to allow for the angler to easily set the hook by just flicking the wrist instead of having to lift the whole rod up in the air. I guess I won't know until ice hits. But overall, it is a very nice rod is very well built. I cannot wait to try it.!
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Interested to see a picture of the rod curve with the line loaded heavily simulating a hookset
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I've been meaning to do that. I'll be in the shop tonight, I'll try to get a few pics
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Here Matzilla:
Load on rod with size 12 gill pill
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Load on Rod simulating hookset
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj614/jww311/20141112_143748.jpg) (http://s1270.photobucket.com/user/jww311/media/20141112_143748.jpg.html)
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Just held the UL and SUL the other day and wasn't real impressed. I'd rather have a spring bobber and has the ability to detect bites more easily. Just didn't see the tip being sensitive enough even if loaded with a tungsten jig.
My $.02
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Thanks for the pictures! That is a more gradual parabolic bend than the Beaver Dam Glass Noodle and Ugly Stik GX2 (light). The load with that gill pill looks similar to both of those rods loaded. I'm ordering a no8 Snitch tomorrow to give it a try on the ice this year
Brink, you'd be surprised how much better it is to fish with a quick tip type rod vs a spring bobber - personally I would never go back. Its all in how that sensitivity is transferred to your hand.
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Thanks for the pictures! That is a more gradual parabolic bend than the Beaver Dam Glass Noodle and Ugly Stik GX2 (light). The load with that gill pill looks similar to both of those rods loaded. I'm ordering a no8 Snitch tomorrow to give it a try on the ice this year
Brink, you'd be surprised how much better it is to fish with a quick tip type rod vs a spring bobber - personally I would never go back. Its all in how that sensitivity is transferred to your hand.
I agree, spring bobbers are for the birds!!
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After many days of reading this post, I decided to purchase the flat line rod...I got the 24 incher today in the mail, and I think it may be alright, it seems to have some backbone, we will see how it loads up whenever a fish is on, but for now, it appears to be a decent rod. I had gone thru 2 jsm elite series ms., and I wasn't too happy with their durability, as both of them are broken(didn't have either one very long at al< ..but I was really happy with the feel of the jsm,and the tip (orange) was really sensitive, But I just can't justify spending my hard earned $$$$ on something that doesn't hold up.. (that's why I haven't ordered a ticklestick yet), So I am gonna give this flat line rod a try this year, hope it works as advertised, and holds up....We will see
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The 27" lite was stiffer and had more backbone, but i didn't care for the eyelets. Not to say they don't work better or any different then the standard ones.
The end eyelets just seemed small and looked like they would build up ice.
I just wasn't willing to make the $50 gamble. Might next year after we hear some reports on how they actually work.
The build quality on the tickle sticks looked excellent. Didn't notice any aberrations in the shaft, wrapping, eyelets, glue etc between the different tickle sticks I looked at.
Those of you who are getting the Flat Line rods, please report back here with your opinions.
Just and fyi, I tend to gravitate towards rods that have a sensitive tip yet plenty back bone.
If the rod will bend 3/4 the way to the handle its to much of a noodle for me.
I also checked out the Tickle stick and the eyelets looked very small. I don't shack fish that much so ice buildup would be a concern. Anyone been on the ice yet with these rods?
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After many days of reading this post, I decided to purchase the flat line rod...I got the 24 incher today in the mail, and I think it may be alright, it seems to have some backbone, we will see how it loads up whenever a fish is on, but for now, it appears to be a decent rod. I had gone thru 2 jsm elite series ms., and I wasn't too happy with their durability, as both of them are broken(didn't have either one very long at al< ..but I was really happy with the feel of the jsm,and the tip (orange) was really sensitive, But I just can't justify spending my hard earned $$$$ on something that doesn't hold up.. (that's why I haven't ordered a ticklestick yet), So I am gonna give this flat line rod a try this year, hope it works as advertised, and holds up....We will see
I was a little nervous about getting my Meatstick last year because of all the reports of people breaking the tip off. But, I've had no problem with it. I was even carrying them in a rod bag which was a tangled up mess. So, I built a couple of these. They should do very well protecting the rods.
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o654/egraham76/IMG_0412_zps3af1c9db.jpg) (http://s1336.photobucket.com/user/egraham76/media/IMG_0412_zps3af1c9db.jpg.html)
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I know this is an old thread... I know sorry but I wanted to let guys know who missed out on the flat line last year Sportsmen's Direct has the 24 inch Flat Line back in stock.
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I would be weary of the Flat Line rods. I got two 24" last year, and not only were they way too stiff for the finesse presentations they are designed for, but it seems as though the tip is some sort of spring steel, not machined down graphite like the Tickle Stick. I threw them both in the trash after a few weeks of using them. Will they catch fish? Yes, but it isn't an optimal setup in my opinion. Since then I have purchased 4 Tickle Sticks and am very pleased with how they work, it is much more refined and professional in build quality and their tip is EXTREMELY sensitive. Highly recommended.
Jake
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I also just purchased a 27"L Tickle stick last night. My fishing partner bought 2 of them last year, and I was skeptical of all the bad reviews, so I held off. He used them all winter without any issues. He did use them outside, but not when it was super cold and iced up the eyes right away. He claims they have just as much feel to them as a sensitive tip. I like to feel the bites rather than watching the rod, so after about 20 minutes of holding and playing with the rod, I bought one last night, and will be pairing it with a Pflueger President spinning reel. Can't wait to try this combo out come first ice! I think it's going to be sweet!
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So long as you store the Tickle Stick right (like any ice rod, right?), strength isn't an issue. Fished one all last season and loved it, just picked up another - the most sensitive rod I've ever used to be completely honest. For what its worth, 13 Fishing does also have the best Customer Service I've ever experienced (never broke an ice rod but broke an open water rod - new ones was to me in a week, no questions asked). I've seen the same stated by quite a few others, which led me to trying out the Tickle Stick in the first plus.
Also, if you haven't yet, check out the new Widow Maker they released for this year. Picked 2 of the (27" UL) up today as well. Similar to the tickle stick but better blank, better guides. Best feeling ice rod I've ever held, can't wait to use them this year. Essentially a custom rod at a much better price. Saw a video about them on YouTube recently that I'll look for and post if I find it.
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Just realized, the new Tickle Stick (2015 version) has much bigger guides than last year. This should put the guide freezing issue to rest.
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Ok, maybe a dumb question, but is there anyway to know if the tickle sticks are last year's rods vs this year's rod with the new guides? I purchased mine last week at s local store, but guides still are very small. Don't know if I got a 2014 model that was carry over from last year, or if the guides were even smaller on the previous models?
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perch_stalker - Actually, yes, its pretty easy (if I explain right...).
If the guides are directly attached to the rod, you have a new model. If there is a small wire gap, it's last years.
This years: http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/15722/product_image/thm/t700_x3_396d59df07d05bfcbe6a7bb94f27b71d.jpg?1441406528
Last years: https://kabeles.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/t700_x1_ba3b579ac1d37d029aa8bfe120cf7875.jpg
Another thing I noticed was this year the rods are in a very nice plastic case at retail, last year they seemed to just be hanging from a tag.
Does this make sense? If not, I'll get a side by side picture of this years vs. last years later on today.
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Here Matzilla:
Load on rod with size 12 gill pill
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj614/jww311/20141112_143620.jpg) (http://s1270.photobucket.com/user/jww311/media/20141112_143620.jpg.html)
Load on Rod simulating hookset
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj614/jww311/20141112_143748.jpg) (http://s1270.photobucket.com/user/jww311/media/20141112_143748.jpg.html)
That has got to be wicked fun with panfish.
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perch_stalker - Actually, yes, its pretty easy (if I explain right...).
If the guides are directly attached to the rod, you have a new model. If there is a small wire gap, it's last years.
This years: http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/15722/product_image/thm/t700_x3_396d59df07d05bfcbe6a7bb94f27b71d.jpg?1441406528
Last years: https://kabeles.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/t700_x1_ba3b579ac1d37d029aa8bfe120cf7875.jpg
Another thing I noticed was this year the rods are in a very nice plastic case at retail, last year they seemed to just be hanging from a tag.
Does this make sense? If not, I'll get a side by side picture of this years vs. last years later on today.
Ok, so the rod I bought has the guides that aren't right on the blank, they have the wire between the guides and the blank, but it is packaged in the new plastic package. So...is this a 2014 model that just got packaged like that, or is this a 2015 model? I haven't opened it yet thankfully, so if this is the older style rod, I will be returning it for the 2015 model with the bigger guides. Here are some pictures...
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The rods i saw last year were packaged that way. The guides def appear to be the old style.
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I have both but I prefer the Tickle Stick. It just feels better in my hand. I've been in contact with Matt from 13 Fishing and he told me that they are redesigning the Tickle Stick for 2015. Bigger guides and fewer of them to save on weight (not that I thought they were heavy to start with.) Top it off with a Black Betty and you've got yourself one heck of a combo!
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perch_stalker - Yes, that is last years model. Sorry for the confusion on talking about the 'plastic' case - but that is the one that hung. When I picked up the new one from Cabela's last week, it is in a full plastic case (no part of the rod is exposed). Still a good rod, and what I used last year, but I wouldn't pay full price for that one and try to find the new model. As flatironfisherman said, it definitely has bigger guides that should work better. I'm surprised the retailer isn't selling last years at a bit of a discounted price?
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Ok, so the rod I bought has the guides that aren't right on the blank, they have the wire between the guides and the blank, but it is packaged in the new plastic package. So...is this a 2014 model that just got packaged like that, or is this a 2015 model? I haven't opened it yet thankfully, so if this is the older style rod, I will be returning it for the 2015 model with the bigger guides. Here are some pictures...
I picked up another L action today for spoon fishing, so I was able to get a picture of the new one in the package. I just can't figure out how to attach an image for the life of me... I'd be happy to, if someone can fill me in lol.
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I picked up another L action today for spoon fishing, so I was able to get a picture of the new one in the package. I just can't figure out how to attach an image for the life of me... I'd be happy to, if someone can fill me in lol.
Found the instructions on the main forum. I think (hope) this will work:
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The new Tickle Sticks come out at the end of the month!!
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The new Tickle Sticks come out at the end of the month!!
I ordered mine at Cabela's and they shipped it to the store for me free... It was there for pick-up today (hence the picture). I never ran back by the ice fishing stuff, but I'm surprised they wouldn't have them out in the store? Or are they trying to sell the old ones first?
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I ordered mine at Cabela's and they shipped it to the store for me free... It was there for pick-up today (hence the picture). I never ran back by the ice fishing stuff, but I'm surprised they wouldn't have them out in the store? Or are they trying to sell the old ones first?
I would imagine they'll get rid of the '15's first. The '16's are supposed to have less and larger guides. The thing I love about the TS the most is the reel seat. 13 did a fantastic job on it!
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I would imagine they'll get rid of the '15's first. The '16's are supposed to have less and larger guides. The thing I love about the TS the most is the reel seat. 13 did a fantastic job on it!
Looks like you can order the Tickle Stick on Cabelas and ship to store that way too for free (I'd probably mess this up so I just went to the store), same with the new Widow Maker (I ordered these in store as well) and they are to your local store very quickly. 13 fishing is also showing them in stock on their website now.
The guides on the new ones are definitely bigger and match the ones they used on the Widow Maker, at least it looks like to my eyes. This is a big improvement IMO over last year, even though I really liked those rods. I'm with you on the reel seats on the 13 fishing rods too. I've never been a fan of non-real seat ice reels, but this is just a personal opinion and I know a lot of guys like the old school tennessee handles. I like the simplicity of a real seat, and never have to worry about the reel being lined up on the rod.
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Was at our local Cabelas and they had the last two 23" '15 ticklesticks on clearance for $36cdn. Considering this years model is $69.99 up here and last years regular price was $59, i was more than happy to pick up at this price. Smaller guides won't be a problem for me as i am always in the shelter unless it is really warm out.
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Was at our local Cabelas and they had the last two 23" '15 ticklesticks on clearance for $36cdn. Considering this years model is $69.99 up here and last years regular price was $59, i was more than happy to pick up at this price. Smaller guides won't be a problem for me as i am always in the shelter unless it is really warm out.
Maybe you're mistaking the Tickle Stick for the Widow Maker rod, but the Tickle Sticks retail for $49.99 If you're paying more than that, you're getting screwed!
But $36 for last years model is still a good price!
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Maybe you're mistaking the Tickle Stick for the Widow Maker rod, but the Tickle Sticks retail for $49.99 If you're paying more than that, you're getting screwed!
But $36 for last years model is still a good price!
Welcome to Canada, where we get routinely screwed on pricing for 95% of the products. We just get to stick our tongues out at you at how easily and cheaply we can get fin bore augers. considering our dollar is trading at just over 75 cents US, my $36 ticklestick would be like you finding it for $27.
I'm sure if i see a widow maker here it will be around $100.
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Hurts even worse to know it's just more China made junk.
Rg
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Meh, one of the advantages of being Canadian is i am not obsessed with the made in usa mantra. Mass produced is mass produced. Lots of quality products come out of china. Lots of crap products come out of the states. More a case of how much a company is willing to compromise on their quality for sake of cheapness and how tightly they monitor the production than where it is actually made.
Now if you want to talk the difference between mass produced and craft produced, yeah there can be a huge difference. But i'm never going to find a craft produced rod for $27, and i am not about to pay $100 for an ice rod, so I'm happy with my purchase.
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Guess I'll make my own USA produced, China component rods. How do you tell the difference between "quality" made in China and junk?
Rg
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Same way you tell the difference between "quality" made in USA and junk.
Well, thats not entirely true. I don't know if they have a 5 day work week or not, so you may not have to worry as much about items made on Mondays and Fridays ;)
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Meh, one of the advantages of being Canadian is i am not obsessed with the made in usa mantra. Mass produced is mass produced. Lots of quality products come out of china. Lots of crap products come out of the states. More a case of how much a company is willing to compromise on their quality for sake of cheapness and how tightly they monitor the production than where it is actually made.
Now if you want to talk the difference between mass produced and craft produced, yeah there can be a huge difference. But i'm never going to find a craft produced rod for $27, and i am not about to pay $100 for an ice rod, so I'm happy with my purchase.
Yes, that is a great price on last years model. I sure wish my local Cabela's would have had some left over and sold them for that...
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i got the 24" flat line rod. Is supposed to be light action but feels more like feels like a med action with spring bobber. is there any way to make this more of a light action rod?
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I agree it looks like last year's rod. I bought a 27 ultralight last year and loved it just looked at this year's rod but it doesn't seem as sensitive as the old rod does anyone have any input on this
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I got the snitch last year and absolutely love it... Way more than the 2 tickle sticks i've broke..