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Offline Kobey

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Water depth and confidence level
« on: Jan 17, 2018, 06:20 AM »
I got thinking last night about how my confidence on the ice varies depending on the depth of the water.  It's a lot scarier for me to be over deeper water than relatively shallow.  It doesn't make much sense, as I would be swimming either way, but for some reason I would be more likely to take chances in 20 feet or less.  Does anyone else get a false sense of security from shallower water or am I just a weirdo?

   

Offline JonPerry

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Re: Water depth and confidence level
« Reply #1 on: Jan 17, 2018, 03:51 PM »
Only people that haven't gotten wet yet take their chances on thin ice. It doesn't matter how deep it is. I hope we don't hear about you being found with water filled lungs.

Offline Kobey

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Re: Water depth and confidence level
« Reply #2 on: Jan 17, 2018, 08:53 PM »
Only people that haven't gotten wet yet take their chances on thin ice. It doesn't matter how deep it is. I hope we don't hear about you being found with water filled lungs.

Actually, I try not to ever take chances, but every time we go out on the ice we are taking a chance on something happening.  I won't even go out on ice that is less than 6".  I guess I should have worded it better.  The point I was trying to make was that if I'm on 6" in 10 feet of water I'm less nervous than if I'm on 6" in 30 feet of water.  I guess it's just a mental thing, like feeling safer on a 5 story balcony than on a 10 story one.

Offline flyingknee

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Re: Water depth and confidence level
« Reply #3 on: Jan 19, 2018, 12:42 AM »
It was just this past Dec. 18, we lost a local ice fisherman here in Southeast Pennsylvania on Lake Arthur. He was 71 yrs old,went out by himself on first ice of the season. He had no business going out as the ice was only 2 to 3 inches thick. He fell through,got hypothermic and slipped away to his death. A passerby saw him before he went under and called 911 but it was too late. The water was 8 feet deep.

Offline RyanW

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Re: Water depth and confidence level
« Reply #4 on: Jan 19, 2018, 11:26 PM »
Water depth doesnít get me as much as the distance from shore does. I guess I feel like if I fall through closer to shore that I have a better chance at being rescued/noticed than if Iím half a mile out on the ice.
Actually, I try not to ever take chances, but every time we go out on the ice we are taking a chance on something happening.  I won't even go out on ice that is less than 6".  I guess I should have worded it better.  The point I was trying to make was that if I'm on 6" in 10 feet of water I'm less nervous than if I'm on 6" in 30 feet of water.  I guess it's just a mental thing, like feeling safer on a 5 story balcony than on a 10 story one.


You nailed it man!

I was fishing this morning, alone, and it was 22 degrees. In 5 hours, the wind picked up to around 10mph and the temp rose to 45. I was on a small (27 acre), relatively deep (30í max depth), spring fed lake AND Iím not sure of where all of the springs are. 11Ē of ice. I left my spud in the car because I was confident in ice condintions. I wandered over to the deep end by the end of my day. Drilled 5 holes and on the last hole when I went to get my flasher and my scoop, the ice began to crack and pop with every step I took for about 15í-20í. I could hear it and feel it. I had my flasher and my scoop and just started calmly and swiftly walking towards shore. After about 20í, the ice stopped cracking and popping. I collected my thoughts and walked back to retrieved the rest of my gear I left by the holes, the ice continued to crack and pop. I grabbed my gear and called it a day. I can tell you that, at the point, the amount of water underneath my feet never crossed my mind. Breaking through the ice sure did though. This lake is also rather close to the express way. At one point, a semi drove by and I could feel the vibrations it created through the ice. This lake isnít ice fished much and now I think I know why. Small, deep, spring fed, and is subject to express way vibrations.

However, I was confident. Confidence can sometimes be a double edged sword. Just like flyingkneeís post about the elderly gentleman. Iím sure he felt confident on those 2Ē-3Ē or he wouldnít have been out there. Sadly, he found out the hard way that no ice is safe ice. Something I learned first hand for myself today that could have turned out much worse for me. I donít mind pops and cracks when itís below freezing and making ice but when itís almost 50 degrees with warm wind, pops and cracks turn my stomache. Especially, when itís literally underneath my feet. It reminded me of when guys drive out on too thin ice and they pop and crack the entire way out.

Was I over a spring? I honestly think I was. I wasnít sticking around to find out though! One thing Iíve learned about ice fishing is that if something doesnít feel right, more often than not, it isnít. The ice was still 11Ē but now that Iím thinking about it, the ice did drill a little softer. My spud is never leaving my possession now when on the ice.

Another thing to remember is just because you see people out, doesnít mean itís safe either. Iím glad you used your best judgement, gearenup, and retreated!! Letís all live to fish another day  :tipup:
ďWhen the fish are biting, it really doesnít matter what youíre using. When the fish arenít biting, it really doesnít matter what youíre usingĒ - Uncle Dave

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Re: Water depth and confidence level
« Reply #5 on: Jan 25, 2018, 12:07 PM »
Doesn't matter how deep, always be ready to get yourself out. Another big thing is knowing the lake you are on and the forecast. Springs, current, runoff, wind, ect  effect ice thickness and if its good or bad ice. Thickness of ice doesn't matter if its bad ice. I'd rather walk on 3" of first ice than a foot of late ice

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Re: Water depth and confidence level
« Reply #6 on: Jan 29, 2018, 08:36 AM »
I agree with all the previous sentiments.  Deep water can be a little scarier than shallow waters.. plus night-time adds a little more butt-pucker affect too.

I fell thru Dec 16th., My 1st time ice fishing over 50+ years went thru.  Yeah, I knew the ice was sketchy... at best.. Took all the precautionary measures: Cleats, Rope, Whistle, and fishing with others... I was the first of 10 guys to call it quits that day and still went thru in 7-8ft of water. Luckily there was guys around me and I got out in lickity split.  Still don't know how I got myself out of that hole so quickly, but thank the angels for helping me out.

Yeah, ya always gotta be a little careful out there no matter how thick the ice is.
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Re: Water depth and confidence level
« Reply #7 on: Jan 29, 2018, 01:31 PM »
I got thinking last night about how my confidence on the ice varies depending on the depth of the water.  It's a lot scarier for me to be over deeper water than relatively shallow.  It doesn't make much sense, as I would be swimming either way, but for some reason I would be more likely to take chances in 20 feet or less.  Does anyone else get a false sense of security from shallower water or am I just a weirdo?
Do not think you are a weirdo, there are things that give me the willies that my people laugh at. All in all I think it is a mind thing. Nothing wrong it is what it is.
Keep it safe! JDL

 



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