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Title: Anyone know if this is true???
Post by: Hardwaternubie53 on Mar 04, 2019, 08:03 PM
That a bill is being considered in the Legislature to eliminate derbys and tourneys (any kind that takes wild life) in NY? Saw it on FB and I don't trust most of what is posted on there. Ty.
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Post by: tblaster123 on Mar 04, 2019, 08:06 PM
From what I understand "wildlife" is defined in a way the does not include fish. So even if it passed, fishing would not be affected by this law in any way. There was a very heated debate about this topic on a thread a few weeks ago that I think got locked by the mods.
Title: Re: Anyone know if this is true???
Post by: Hardwaternubie53 on Mar 04, 2019, 08:07 PM
From what I understand "wildlife" is defined in a way the does not include fish. So even if it passed, fishing would not be affected by this law in any way. There was a very heated debate about this topic on a thread a few weeks ago that I think got locked by the mods.

Ty
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Post by: fullThrottle on Mar 04, 2019, 08:16 PM
Lol this issue already got locked out.
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Post by: Hardwaternubie53 on Mar 04, 2019, 08:25 PM
Lol this issue already got locked out.

Didn't see it. Just saw the post on FB tonight about the bill.
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Post by: fullThrottle on Mar 04, 2019, 08:47 PM
From what it looks like it’s more towards live animals hunts rather then fishing events but the way it’s worded
Makes it kinda unclear so it could effect fishing tournaments. 
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Post by: Fontona19 on Mar 04, 2019, 09:46 PM
I contacted my local assembly person, and was informed that this bill has been brought to the assembly every year since 2003, and never even makes it to a vote.
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Post by: eyetalian stallion on Mar 05, 2019, 05:44 AM
it's only a matter of time before the albany idiots, put it on the books...
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Post by: Hardwaternubie53 on Mar 05, 2019, 10:58 AM
I contacted my local assembly person, and was informed that this bill has been brought to the assembly every year since 2003, and never even makes it to a vote.

Good to know. Ty
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Post by: GitRDone on Mar 05, 2019, 02:20 PM
it is bill A00722.
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Post by: Mtnd777 on Mar 05, 2019, 08:45 PM
I contacted my local assembly person, and was informed that this bill has been brought to the assembly every year since 2003, and never even makes it to a vote.

Remember Albany is all Democrats this year so God only knows what they could screw up
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Post by: T.I.Handyman on Mar 05, 2019, 10:00 PM
Truthfully I think Derbys take a lot of fish out of the water that wouldn't otherwise have been keep other than for getting in the derby for a chance for a prize. I've never entered  one and never will , if I want to donate to  an organization I do , don't need to do it through a derby
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Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 06, 2019, 05:50 AM
actually bass tourneys save more fish ...... lake is full of boats ,that keeps a lot of local fisherman off that weekend and bass tourneys are catch and release .....

but that's not the real problem here....the problem is to you want some  snowflake  in Albany  telling you what to do? there is no shortage of fish nor wildlife  why should the government say we can't have a tournament or a big buck contest at work????.......remember  we still do have rights ....fight for them
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Post by: eyetalian stallion on Mar 06, 2019, 08:10 AM
actually bass tourneys save more fish ...... lake is full of boats ,that keeps a lot of local fisherman off that weekend and bass tourneys are catch and release .....

but that's not the real problem here....the problem is to you want some  snowflake  in Albany  telling you what to do? there is no shortage of fish nor wildlife  why should the government say we can't have a tournament or a big buck contest at work????.......remember  we still do have rights ....fight for them
perfectly said trapper...way to much government intrusion,on all topics...
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Post by: jigshimmer on Mar 06, 2019, 08:48 PM
snowflake never before heard that to describe politicians

love it!!
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Post by: JackD on Mar 07, 2019, 07:21 AM
Yes its true

https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2019/A722
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Post by: wranglerdrvr on Mar 07, 2019, 01:04 PM
Gotta love how all the bills supporters are from downstate/NYC. They don’t have the slightest clue as to what fishing and hunting mean to those of us up here and the role some of those tournaments play in our local communities. Bunch of clowns.

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Post by: hunts2long on Mar 07, 2019, 04:21 PM
They want to split the state into 2 states. I say Trapper for Gov for Upstate....h2l
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Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 07, 2019, 04:26 PM

They looked into that many years ago and make NY. A district ,  but needed up state to carry them
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Post by: BeenPerchin315 on Mar 07, 2019, 04:36 PM
snowflake never before heard that to describe politicians

love it!!
Snow flake works to describe the local politicians for those at the state level I would more describe as cup cakes. Lol
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Post by: BeenPerchin315 on Mar 07, 2019, 04:40 PM
They looked into that many years ago and make NY. A district ,  but needed up state to carry them
Yea they looked into it and found that the 5 burrows can not afford the welfare for them selves. I was so bad that no one could afford to live there; without our taxes to give them welfare.
Title: Re: Anyone know if this is true???
Post by: Rynofirefighter on Mar 07, 2019, 05:06 PM
That a bill is being considered in the Legislature to eliminate derbys and tourneys (any kind that takes wild life) in NY? Saw it on FB and I don't trust most of what is posted on there. Ty.
Seen it in the news yesterday (on tv)
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Post by: fishy1 on Mar 07, 2019, 06:04 PM
it didnt pass and never has
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Post by: big_guy_13021 on Mar 07, 2019, 07:01 PM
They want to split the state into 2 states. I say Trapper for Gov for Upstate....h2l
....not a good idea do you want our govenor to wear pink high heel shoes on the ice...not sure what he would wear to a meeting ..mini skirt and puple sneakers maybe :roflmao: :roflmao: :-[ :woot:
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Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 07, 2019, 07:58 PM
no more tournments wouldn't hurt big guy he couldn't catch a fish the other day  :roflmao:  I offered him to wind  a few in
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Post by: icejohn on Mar 08, 2019, 10:02 PM
Yes it is true and correct it's coming from NYC Dems...also they want to eliminate fire dept's...fish/game clubs from raffling off guns...they're too "dangerous"....probably lot of criminals trying to "win" guns. :whistle:
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Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 09, 2019, 08:17 AM
I would imagine if you win a gun raffle you would half to do a back ground check .how would it be any different then buying a gun????

by the way 40 years ago I won a  30-30  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone know if this is true???
Post by: icejohn on Mar 10, 2019, 07:41 PM
I would imagine if you win a gun raffle you would half to do a back ground check .how would it be any different then buying a gun????

by the way 40 years ago I won a  30-30  ;D
That's absolutely correct....but those city slicker democrats just want to cause  a riff amongst the conscientious law abiding citizens and make it easier for the criminals.