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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: 3300 on Dec 08, 2017, 11:06 PM
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i went to one our sponsors store (knutsons) for bait. always do! they are great there and i like giving them my business even tho they are 50 miles away.
they had a one of a kind shappell fx100i assembled and for sale. they said it was a mistake. it was supposed to be a regular shappell fx100 in the box. they said the rep had it and it was mispackaged when they opened the box to get it ready for a demo. they said it is the only one any where and i knew when they started making the unit i would buy it, so i bought it not caring what the price was.
the manufacture date was 04.12.17.
i was hoping it had the dog leg bars added for the lower flaps where the velcro is used like shappell was telling me they will be adding. i was also thinking they would have had this out before now and ready for xmas at least.
they did improve the zipper storm flap. other than that the only other difference is the tent material. it is heat welded, but it's done very well with no irregular weld spots that allow more light thru than most areas like my gm 8x8 does. it feels the same weight as all my other fx100's the new hyfax kits are dark navy blue. i will be adding them. knutsons had most things on sale because of the poor winter last year so i bought the hyfax and a bunch of other items i didn't need.
i know it's a very popular shanty and many are looking forward to the insulated version being on the market. so i thought i would share what they look like.
enjoy!
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Looking good
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Thanks for sharing the only pictures I've seen so far...
Pretty dang nice...
Congrats on the 1st!!
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Very nice! Wonder why they are not in stores yet.
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Nice
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if and when they release this it should compete with the Clam Kenai. i like my FX100 i think ill like it more when its insulated
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Left out one detail.... how much did you pay for it? Inquiring wallets want to know! Lol
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Weight and price please!! I think they'll sell every one they build!! :thumbsup: :clap: :bow:
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No information on Shappell website yet. They don't even suggest it exists. They show the FX 200i from last year.
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when they come out that's my next shack.depending on price and weight.
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Looks nice. Great that it was preassembled too! Thanks for the post.
I love my FX50 windbreak but sometimes feel a full shanty would be more appropriate on the worst weather days...
Questions: Does the insulation on a one man really help? Can you safely heat it without killing yourself? and won't the heater be in the way in the relatively small fishing area?? Can you stay warmer without a heater vs. uninsulated? Hard to believe body heat would help, the way I'm bundled up not much escapes... ???
I don't mean to hijack thread, once again a great bunch of info about this new product!
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Looks good. Weight? I got tired of waiting for this and just bought a Clam Blazer, Stealth, insulated. 42 lbs. with no gear.
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From what I can see the way it hinges looks pretty weak. Does it have the things like those on a card table like legs to lock the bars down?
When I bought my Kenai at Jays a few years ago one of those card table legs lock being bent on one of the display Shappel 100 models and the heavier hinge points are what sold me on the Kenai
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Mine seem pretty heavy. Really only used when in wind block mode.
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3300 said that the weight feels about the same as the uninsulated model, so it should be close to what, 35-40 lbs.? - I would think that because of mislabeling that he bought it
for the price of a new uninsulated model
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3300 said that the weight feels about the same as the uninsulated model, so it should be close to what, 35-40 lbs.? -
Its got to weigh more than the non thermal version. From what ive seen in the past, thermal adds about 8-10lbs over the non thermal. Clam came out with a nice lite non-thermal flip that weighs 35lbs.
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the weight is from what i remember about the same as the non-insulated version while lifting it onto my legs to swivel it in and out of my van and that is all use for a one man flip. this will be my 4th version i bought and looking forward to the 5th!
on shappell's site the fx20001 is only 4 pounds more (72 non-insulated/76 insulated) than the non-insulated but that uint is about twice as big ( i sat in one at knutsons to see if i will buying one of those too). so this is probably about 2 pounds more than the non-insulated version in theory.
http://www.shappell.com/iceshelters/fxseriesflips.html
the hinges are bolts (one per side) going thru the conduit and are plenty strong. it is the same exact frame and all their other flip over shelters. they use 1/2" emt conduit and now they 3/4" conduit for the sliding bench rail. the rest of the hinge is made a thick plate steel with bolted on support bars. very simple yet very effective design for hinges and easy to modify being they used over the counter supplies for the frame. the bolts all are nylon inserted lock nuts so they stay where you leave them and they are slightly loose to allow for movement.
the card table locks you see on them are for "wind mode" and they hold open the top half way so it is like their fx50 in that mode. i have seen older shappell's that used much thinner metal on those locks. i think they were the rovers. these are beefy and will pose no problem.
these started out as 28 pounds in the first version. the corners of the tubs would collapse on some of them, so they made their tub thicker and that added weight. then they made the bench slide ( i told them i had been doing it for years, so they added it too) so this adds some more weight for the now 3/4" conduit rail. other than those mods, that's how these have transformed over the years weight wise.
looking at shappell's web page says the non-insulated version is: Weight: 37 lbs. so add up to 2 pounds more for this version.
the next version should have dug leg bars to hold the lower sides of the tent down better to the ice. i told them about that too when mike shappell owned it. this will add a little more weight.
i have digital bathroom scales and could weigh it, but i know it has to be 39 pounds +/- one pound at best.
if you read the front page of the assembly instructions page it says "never bank snow around it", so that it can breath fresh air.
it does have vent windows on both sides of you head while seated. this material won't breath any different than the non-insulated material does. in other words it is not any more dangerous to use with heat than the non-insulated version. the insulation helps with noise, wind flap, condensation and heat costs.
you can open the front door at the top to let more fresh air in if your over heating.
here is a foot print pic of the fishable space while seated in them. they do have the bottom front bar widened out to accommodate this area. it is the only bar that is about 4 inches wider on each side of the tub. so it's no problem to run a heater and have a bucket holding up your sonar to save on your neck pain.
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i paid 329.00$ for it plus tax.
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We run em pretty different, most importantly, everyone is happy..
Bait bucket is in front of the third hole for the transducer..
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How cold it is where u need a heater in a 1man? I only ask because i dont have a thermal 1 man, and just being out of the wind and my body heat wars it up pretty quick. Coat, gloves, and hat come off after just a few minutes.
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How cold it is where u need a heater in a 1man? I only ask because i dont have a thermal 1 man, and just being out of the wind and my body heat wars it up pretty quick. Coat, gloves, and hat come off after just a few minutes.
I like to take off my coat and get real comfortable...
At 15° with the wind at night, alone on lake Erie, seems to get cold...
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I like to take off my coat and get real comfortable...
At 15° with the wind at night, alone on lake Erie, seems to get cold...
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I'm with you here. Heater always.
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I'm with you here. Heater always.
I also smoke like a chimney, so the heater makes up for the cross venting needed to be able to see... lol one man rigs fill up quick...
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How cold it is where u need a heater in a 1man? I only ask because i dont have a thermal 1 man, and just being out of the wind and my body heat wars it up pretty quick. Coat, gloves, and hat come off after just a few minutes.
80 to 90 in the shelter is nice. I wouldn't fish if my heater broke down.
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Nice looking shack 3300! Congrats!
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thanks DN and every one else. i seen at least 10 more boxed fx100's today at three different dunhams. some have different box's than others (size and color) and it makes you want to open them up to see if there are more mispackaged fx100i in them.
i use a small little buddy heater or mini propane lantern in my fx100 and when it gets colder like at night or windy days or both that suck the heat out i use the mid sized mr heater buddy heater to answer bait buckets question and that is with reflectix on the ceiling.
in either of my large pop up shelters (used when the wife goes) i might use two heat sources and one of those is also insulated.
being insulated isn't only about inside temps. it is about condensation from heating and wind flap and noise. i do install reflectix to the ceilings of all of my other fx100's to stop the condensation. that isn't cheap and cost 50$ for a roll wide enough to do it right.
not sure how long you sit on ice, but i stay for 6 to 10 hours at a time, most of the time. i like being comfortable when i want to kick back, more so when the bite is slow/nil. coat comes off, tunes get louder and time for some food maybe. i am very mobile and weight has never stopped me from a move.
most of the time i am not in my shack and it is just a sled full of ice gear or a base if you will. if the wind kicks up or s now storm hits or rain storm and when the sun goes down and you feel the frost settling down on you, then the shack(s) get used. so i hole hop a lot and w/o the shelter on those moves. i fish on my knees for hours and close to the ice holes to stop wind from messing with my fishing and to be able to land fish at the hole quickly.
on the other hand, i have a buddy who sets up his (my old shanty) fx100 and you never see him again for most of the day/night. makes me wounder whats wrong with him. just lazy i guess.
the only way i would ever get warmer w/o a heater on is in the middle of a sunny day in a shelter, but i would much rather be outside of the shelter on days like that. i don't pay attention to actual air temps or wind chill factors. i pay attention to my comfort level thru out my time on ice and how much effort i want to put into it.
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Dunham’s in Coldwater ?
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Dunham’s in Coldwater ?
no, battle creek, westnege ave- portage and kalamazooo behind mcdonolds just off of us131 at first traffic light north. each box has three pieces of tape on each corner on both sides of the box's. was hard not to open them or have them opened for me. i don't know what the odds are of finding another one, but it might not hurt to have a staff member open them for you. they are marked store special 209.99$. retail 249.99$
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no, battle creek, westnege ave- portage and kalamazooo behind mcdonolds just off of us131 at first traffic light north. each box has three pieces of tape on each corner on both sides of the box's. was hard not to open them or have them opened for me. i don't know what the odds are of finding another one, but it might not hurt to have a staff member open them for you. they are marked store special 209.99$. retail 249.99$
i've got a feeling this is going to turn in to willy wonka's golden ticket search! Nice pick up tho! Love my fx100, just waiting on the fx100i to replace it.
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Well it’s official 3300 is the field tester as I’ve checked Angola , Coldwater & Battle Creek . You have the only one . I’m in for the upgraded version but I’ll have to wait awhile longer ☹️ .
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i've got a feeling this is going to turn in to willy wonka's golden ticket search! Nice pick up tho! Love my fx100, just waiting on the fx100i to replace it.
I wonder if there are any other golden tickets???
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Congrats on your FX100I.
Got the reflectix installed on my FX100 per your advice. Thanks.
Hopefully won't be much longer until first ice.
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your welcome and thank you also!
my last fx100 was sold last night on the phone to a buddy who needs one really bad. it's like new and all decked out, so i know he will be super happy with it.
i wanted to speak with shappell and checked their web page only to find all contact has been removed from their site. i used my contacts in my pc i keep stored and ended up with the new owners and i thought i would share that info here with you all in case you need to speak with them too or for warranty. just ask for someone in the shappell department.
Wright & McGill Co.
4245 E. 46th Avenue
Denver, CO 80216
Phone: 720 941 8700 | Fax: 303 321 4750
Warranty: 720-941-8718
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I'd like to try out the 2 man...thanks for the pictures/info!
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here you go matzilla.
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=349845.msg3728659#msg3728659
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Thank you!!!!! How much wind comes up between the skirt and tub? my frabill has an extra, heavy flap there to help seal it off but I don't see that on the Shappell? Does the fx200i have the same downslung emt to help the skirt stay on the ice
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i should have taken more pictures today while i was at franks. they have many shelters and brands set up. i kinda want the fx200I but i don't want to nearly double the weight from the fx100I. i always hand pull.
it does have what i will call a corner to the area that you seal by hand to the tub. it is more thought out than it is on the fx100. so this corner has the skirt attached on the long run and the short return that then has another flap with velcro the only part of this that does not have the skirt id the velcro flap. if this make sense to you.
that's for the fx200 and fx200I. the fx100 and fx100I does not have the "corner or return end on the end of long run.
none of them have yet introduced the dog leg i mentioned to mike shappell be fore he sold out. eagle claw will be adding it they said.
i don't know how much wind gets past the fx200 tent in that area. i don't own one. it looks well thought out. the fx100 tent to tub is inline so wind only comes in from a slit near where the hinges are. the slit allows for the tent to open and close as close as it can, but does not have an overlap at all.
the fx200I has tiny windows on the sides where the fx100 has mesh and wind flaps that close the mesh that you control how much of the flap is in place for more or less air flow for heating. the fx200I had what looked like a fixed long narrow triangle mesh near the very top for venting, but i didn't look at the outside to see what they did there.
the wind bar is a tapered conduit that goes into a hole they drilled in the nose lip of the tub. i use a bolt and washers for the fx100's instead.
it is short and not meant to stand in. i did check out many of them out today. it was nice being able to stand straight up and walk in/out of other brand flip overs, but not worth the weight. the low profile will be nice for windy days.
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Did anyone else get to lay eyes on this mythical unicorn this year? Definetly ready to buy, would be a no brainer with the addition of dog bone shaped bar.
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so after using it for this short season i have updates for you.
the fabric still gets frost on it on the inside and goes from the ice about two feet up . i guess this is where the heater can't keep up with the cold coming off of the ice. some flooring probably would stop that. like anti-fatigue mats.
the heat welds do accumulate moisture and it freezes in them. the tiny dots it what collects the moisture. a few times i used no heater and it still did that. the sun was out and then it at and the frost settled down onto it and my body heat was enough for it to take place. using a heater makes it happen faster.
running a mid size mr heater in it was way too much heat most days. when the temps were around zero that size heater was welcomed and that's when the frost build up was noticed two feet up.
one day heavy snow was falling and making the same problem with the welds and no heater was on. they said these welds are supposed to be better than most and they are not supposed to leak. i did not have leaks from them, only moisture collecting in them.
the wind noise is great in it compared to the non thermo version of it. it seems more quite inside like the fabric absorbs sound some what. the wind flap and noise from it is also reduced considerately.
i did spray two cans of water proofing on it and applied it extra heavy on the roof and seams. i used atsko extreme water guard.
the side vents/windows has velcro all of the way down and around now so it is easier to have it opened in any position. it used to have a limited amount of velcro used which limited the positions it could be used. a co used it to talk to me one night and watching what was going on inside.
the rest of the shelter is the same.
it would be nice if they included a rear wind bar and get the wind bar for the skirt done.
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Looks pretty slick! I'm a current FX100 user have had a Frabill & Clam prior to it.
Love the weight & front space along with price of it.
I'm glad it's insulated but really wish they would've done away with the Velcro. Besides having them tear off I've also had several times where the Velcro has iced up & wouldn't stick without some work. But overall I'd go with another one or the new one!
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They must be available, Chaumont Hardware has an insulated one right now on clearance...
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They must be available, Chaumont Hardware has an insulated one right now on clearance...
How much are they asking?
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How much are they asking?
249 bucks for the insulated FX 100, 199 bucks for the non insulated FX 100...
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that's about 100$ off and what the non thermo cost retail, so a nice find if you can get it. there were only 100 made so far.
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I was planning on getting the FX100 this fall. Found them at Sportsmans Guide and Bass Pro for $220 ish this past winter. Going to have to save a little extra and get the insulated version!
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Greg at Chaumont Hardware is reporting his distributor has a bunch of these in stock and is looking to unload them, CHEAP.
$249 bucks.
Greg says he'll hold 'em for as long as it takes anybody to get here and get one after they've paid for it.
Check out the Chaumont Hardware FB page for more details.
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13 hour drive for me. Probably not doable but hopefully some one can take advantage.
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Ice Scratcher, I want to know how you sit on the seat, without burning the hell out of your back??? That heater has to be no more then a foot from you!
Its about three feet away really...
I take my coat off for sure...
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updated picture links. old pics were broken. i know many are interested in getting one, so i wanted this post fixed.
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Has anyone seen these online yet? Can't wait to get my hands on one this year!
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These are now listed on Sportsmans Guide. Looks like a good price at $270. Not sure how good the thermal shell will be. The unit weighs 37 pounds which is the same as the basic FX100. I was thinking this would be at least a couple pounds heavier due to the insulated fabric. I plan on getting one if they run on sale or offer free shipping.
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/shappell-fx100i-insulated-1-man-flip-ice-fishing-shelter?a=2184747
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Nice i will be getting one.strange it weighs the same as the fx100.wondering where they skimped out on things to make it weigh the same as the non insulated fx100?
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Most likely a misprint.
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Nice i will be getting one.strange it weighs the same as the fx100.wondering where they skimped out on things to make it weigh the same as the non insulated fx100?
Doc, if you read the details, they went from 600 denier fabric in the uninsulated FX100 to 300 denier in the FX100i. Maybe that's why no additional weight. That's also a little disappointing. 300 is really thin.
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So now the question is..... is it better to have 300 D insulated or 600 D uninsulated for $40 cheaper??
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I posted a deal on the fx100i in the deals thread:
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=331034.3240
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So now the question is..... is it better to have 300 D insulated or 600 D uninsulated for $40 cheaper??
right..good question.ive got the non insulated fx100.300d is pretty thin.seems like the 600d may be better.on the fence about getting a fx100i now.i wouldve like 600d insulated fabric even if it added a few more pound to it.
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here is the direct link
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/shappell-fx100i-insulated-1-man-flip-ice-fishing-shelter?a=2184747
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right..good question.ive got the non insulated fx100.300d is pretty thin.seems like the 600d may be better.on the fence about getting a fx100i now.i wouldve like 600d insulated fabric even if it added a few more pound to it.
should all be 600 denier or better.
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I just sent Shappell an email to ask what fabric is on it.
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insulated version should be 300 outer layer and 300 inner layer.
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specs on line say insulated 300D. 600 would be nice, but this is ok with me.....
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heres the specs on fx200I. should be same exact materials used.
FX200i Insulated
Two person
Solid one piece frame
Slinding padded seat
Full wind break position
Front zip door
Front, rear, and side windows
Auto-flow air vents
Second access rear door
High-Viz reflectors
Extreme-duty insulated 600D polyester shell <-----<<<
18 sq ft Fishable area
76 lbs.
http://shappell.com/
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The FX200i is 600D according to their website. It weighs 4# more than the FX200.
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They emailed me back and said it was a misprint and "It is 600D with insulated material in the middle."
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They emailed me back and said it was a misprint and "It is 600D with insulated material in the middle."
sweet.hope to get 1 by first ice..
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probably sell out fast. seems when shappell owned and operated the brand, they kept it close to home as far as marketing. now that eagle claw owns and operates it, they are getting more known in other states.
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probably sell out fast. seems when shappell owned and operated the brand, they kept it close to home as far as marketing. now that eagle claw owns and operates it, they are getting more known in other states.
That's why I'm thinking of ordering mine today. I know I'm going to get one anyway and right now they have a $50 off deal so I might as well just get it.
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Glad it was a misprint as I was thinking. Jump on them before they're gone!! :thumbsup: :whistle:
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Just ordered mine. This will be a fun conversation with the wife tonight.... ::)
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Just ordered mine. This will be a fun conversation with the wife tonight.... ::)
Better to ask forgiveness than ask permission!! ;)
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heres the specs on fx200I. should be same exact materials used.
FX200i Insulated
Two person
Solid one piece frame
Slinding padded seat
Full wind break position
Front zip door
Front, rear, and side windows
Auto-flow air vents
Second access rear door
High-Viz reflectors
Extreme-duty insulated 600D polyester shell <-----<<<
18 sq ft Fishable area
76 lbs.
http://shappell.com/
I assume that the "D" represents denier?
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Wow this is very tempting. I’ve got an old model Rover, no door or anything I picked up for very very cheap but I had to patch a couple holes. It works for the most part, just lose some heat. Insulated and a door.... jeez. Can’t wait till I’m out of college so that I can jump on deals like these! I could maybe swing it, but what do you guys think? It’d be insulated, a door, and would have the wider bar that lies on the ice. Maybe I should just start my own thread haha!
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Wow this is very tempting. I’ve got an old model Rover, no door or anything I picked up for very very cheap but I had to patch a couple holes. It works for the most part, just lose some heat. Insulated and a door.... jeez. Can’t wait till I’m out of college so that I can jump on deals like these! I could maybe swing it, but what do you guys think? It’d be insulated, a door, and would have the wider bar that lies on the ice. Maybe I should just start my own thread haha!
You're in college. Live off ramen a couple weeks to balance the budget and you're set! ;D
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Just ordered mine. This will be a fun conversation with the wife tonight.... ::)
I did the same, was thinking man shes gonna be pissed. Came home said I wanted to order another ice shack and she said "If you sell the red one that takes forever to set up go ahead." I had to pinch myself to make sure I was awake or alive. Guess I'll have an Eskimo Quickfish up for sale soon. Lol
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You're in college. Live off ramen a couple weeks to balance the budget and you're set! ;D
Haha no kidding! Trying to work it out, hopefully I can fit one in, because it looks like the price might be a slight mistake as it was posted that the msrp is $350
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wonder if just the thermal tent will be available.ive already got the fx100.be nice to be able to purchase just the tent at a reasonable price.or im thinking about selling my fx100 to upgrade to the fx100i.
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I sent a email to eagle claw yesterday about the availability and price of the fx100i tent, still waiting for a response.
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Wow this is very tempting. I’ve got an old model Rover, no door or anything I picked up for very very cheap but I had to patch a couple holes. It works for the most part, just lose some heat. Insulated and a door.... jeez. Can’t wait till I’m out of college so that I can jump on deals like these! I could maybe swing it, but what do you guys think? It’d be insulated, a door, and would have the wider bar that lies on the ice. Maybe I should just start my own thread haha!
Just curious... I had a Rover 1.5 about 8 or 9 years ago that had a door. How old is yours?
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wonder if just the thermal tent will be available.ive already got the fx100.be nice to be able to purchase just the tent at a reasonable price.or im thinking about selling my fx100 to upgrade to the fx100i.
response from eagle claw: Unfortunately we do not have replacement tents for the FX100I at this time since it is a new item. It is something we are working on. Please check back in the future for a more certain answer.
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How cold it is where u need a heater in a 1man? I only ask because i dont have a thermal 1 man, and just being out of the wind and my body heat wars it up pretty quick. Coat, gloves, and hat come off after just a few minutes.
I also use a buddy heater but have to question the need for a thermal canvas in a one man flip. My frabill one man is non thermal and heats up very well even in below zero temps. The thermal canvas adds a lot of unnecessary weight imo. I was out one time with a group of other people then as late afternoon came I noticed I was the only one still out on the ice. Fishing was good, I wondered why everyone else left early. About a half hour latter I loaded up my truck to leave and saw it was minus -12°f I was nice and toasty in that un-insulated one man flip.
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shappell's fx200 insulated is only 4 pounds more than non insulated fx200. being this is much smaller the weight won't be noticed at all.
since i own this unit i can say that it does not condensate except for the first 12 inches or so where the tent attaches to the tub creates an air flow so super cold times it will freeze the fabric there only and my non insulated fx100 condensates big time every where. even better is when snow is sitting on the roof and your heating the non insulated would condensate so i installed reflectx to eliminate that problem but the walls would still condensate.
it is also quieter from wind flap and absorbs some sounds. you save money by going longer before needing heat and then you can run with less heat when you do need it. i take my parka off or keep it off if i'm not wearing before setting it up.
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One of the big reasons I ordered the insulated version was so the wind wouldn't constantly be blowing up the bottom of the shanty. My old frabill was uninsulated and was plenty warm with using a buddy heater on and off. I have a striker ice suit so I'm usually plenty warm in just that. When I'm in the shack I like taking the jacket off. It's also annoying having the fabric constantly flapping in the wind. Hopefully the extra little weight keep it from doing that.
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The reduction in wind noise, condensation, and propane consumption are the reasons I want a insulated tent.
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The reduction in wind noise, condensation, and propane consumption are the reasons I want a insulated tent.
same here.sitting in a fx100 in the wind is like sitting in a garbage bag..it does get warm with a little buddy heater but loses heat as soon as the heater is turned off.thermal tent will help with that.
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same here.sitting in a fx100 in the wind is like sitting in a garbage bag..it does get warm with a little buddy heater but loses heat as soon as the heater is turned off.thermal tent will help with that.
Haha. I like the garbage bag reference. It’s spot on too. Don’t think I would buy a tent that was not insulated for that very reason.
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I also use a buddy heater but have to question the need for a thermal canvas in a one man flip.
It's called comfort. @) Everyone has their own idea of what that consists of.
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Just curious... I had a Rover 1.5 about 8 or 9 years ago that had a door. How old is yours?
I honestly have no clue! I got it four years back or so from a guy that only used it a couple times. Looked like new other than a few holes the mice chewed in the shell in his basement.
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Glad I ordered mine when I did from Sportsmans Guide, they are already on back order until early October. I haven't got mine yet, but should have it by early next week.
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like hotcakes on a skillet.
replacement tents shouldn't be available until they get caught up manufacturing and saturated the market. they are behind with new manufacturer.
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Just got mine from Sportsman's Guide, got the frame all set up went to put the cover on and there's a seam ripped/ torn along the top. While I was inside putting the cover on (till I saw ths rip) it started getting really warm in there. I called Eagle Claw first and they don't have any covers in stock currently, then I called Sportsman's Guide. They are back ordered until October 9th but they're shipping me a whole new everything just to pull the cover out and then I have to ship it back, I wish they could just pull the cover and save all the big box shipping.
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would be worth the wait to get a free replacement from eagle claw.
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How was the setup? This is going to be my first flip over; any set up tips I should know?
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How was the setup? This is going to be my first flip over; any set up tips I should know?
By myself probably 25-30mins, really easy. Just skip using the included wrenches and get two rachets with 10mm sockets.
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would be worth the wait to get a free replacement from eagle claw.
The warrenty dept told me to go through Sportmans because all their units are sold to retailers, and they arent sure when they will have more in. Earliest guess was late Nov.
Will say both companies were right on top of it, very easy to get ahold of, and offering to fix it. It's just such a new in-demand item that time frames are alittle long right now.
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Quality issues already?i dont know if i like eagle claws involvement with shappell..everything eagle claw brand turned to cheaply made stuff.both my shappell shelters were bought before eagle claw branded them.
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It honestly looks like they just missed hitting both cloths with some stitches where the black meets the blue, at the top. After I saw that I checked the whole rest of it out and everything else looks fine, the heat stitching looks awesome, no more pin holes through with every snitch. It's super thick, there was no light coming inside to speak of I really like it I just think I got a random bad one.
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So I got my new FX100 I on Saturday afternoon. I was walking out the door to go bow hunting and seen the FedEx truck pull in, so I decided to put it together instead since I was so excited. First thoughts are I really like it! Assembly was easy, every part was labeled which made it easier. Use a 10mm socket and wrench instead of the ones they give you. The insulated fabric is awesome! Glad I held off for this. One of the brace bracket (things that go on the side poles if you want to use it as a windbreak) did not work. The rivet was busted on it and I will have to call Shappell and see if I can get a new one sent out. It does not want to slide open or close unless you put a lot of force on it. The other one works great. Here are a few other things I noticed:
-I wish the tub was a little bit thicker. I will definitely be putting the wear bars on it.
-Not a big fan of the design for how the poles attach to the sled. There is only one bolt holding the bracket with four poles on it. It seems sturdy, but just caught my attention.
-I like the Velcro that is attached the tub near your feet. The cover has Velcro tabs that connect to this and it seals off the corners to prevent the wind from blowing in.
-I like the sliding seat. Not the most comfortable but a big step up from my old shack that didn't have a seat. Not sure if I'll add a back rest or just use a foam pad.
-Not sure why they have mesh for the side windows? I might end up cutting the mesh out since its not really needed.
-I wish there was side mesh pockets on the inside.
-Big fan of the insulated fabric and the heat welds they use instead of the stitching. No tiny little light holes and very dark on the inside which will be nice for sight fishing.
For the price I will buy this again in a heart beat. I got it for $193 plus shipping. Even at retail of $270 this is a good buy compared to other brands.
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Put mine together this weekend. I put the red trim in a warm oven for 10-15 mins and it went on like a breeze. So far, I like everything about it for what it is. A lightweight one man shanty. Cant wait to hit it with a few mods....
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-I wish the tub was a little bit thicker. I will definitely be putting the wear bars on it.
-Not a big fan of the design for how the poles attach to the sled. There is only one bolt holding the bracket with four poles on it. It seems sturdy, but just caught my attention.
-Not sure why they have mesh for the side windows? I might end up cutting the mesh out since its not really needed.
the tub is where a good part of the weight comes from and it is thicker than it used to be by nearly five pounds. the earlier version had complaints of the corners collapsing where the bench is and all the body weight sits onto. mine did just that and they sent a free improved tub and had no more issues. it is thicker and heavier. so now that's what they use for all of them. their mold was set too thin originally.
the wear bars are the best in the market i have used. well thought out and reversible to save you even more money. they make it pull easier in certain conditions and make it quieter while pulling in same conditions.
the pole attachment is simple and effective and easy for you to repair or alter the support poles. installed caps on the main tub to bracket pole and seat support poles would be a nice touch. i use the bracket to tub support poles to hold my rod holders tho.
they are supposed to be working on building dog leg bottom bars for their flip shelters. this would help hold the corners to the tub and help remove wind flap and offer support from the walls blowing in other than velcro tabs. i was hoping they got it done on this version and found out they did not when i bought mine assembled. buying assembled cost more by 50$ most places and that was the only way i could get my hands on one last season. so mine cost 330$ plus tax, so roughly 350$
the mesh does a few things. it keeps the shape of the opening of the tent for the window flap to be able to find the edges.
privacy.
allow air flow.
i like to keep mine closed on one edge that faces the front while seated. dnr likes to sneak into those windows.
keeps people from being able to push the window/flap in or to put things thru it from the outside.
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Good to know about the tubs. Glad they upgraded them!
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Stupid question, but when installing the wear bars, which side of the nut is supposed to face up? The instructions make it look like it should be rubber side up, but I'm not really sure. ???
Edit: disregard; my copy of the instructions was crappy. The online one is clear; gasket down.
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Yes, rubber side up.
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Now I'm wishing I'd snagged the travel cover from Sportsman's Guide when I bought the shanty. Does anyone know if Dunham's has carried the cover in the past??
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i called dunhams today. they said in about two weeks they'll know what they'll have in stock for shanties ect.
i own a cover and never use it on the shanty but have used it for one of my sleds to keep gear dry. if it's snowing while pulling the fx100i or scouting with out it i leave it in wind break mode to keep my gear dry. if it's windy i anchor it at the pull rope.
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Ive got a cabbalas cover, I think for a jet or something, but I think it will be big enough.....I like to keep the snow out of my sled....sometimes I'll walk pretty far....I also have a boat cover that had a tear in it so I replaced a month ago, so I may see if the mrs can whip me up something with that.....
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Mine arrived from the SG also . The assembly was fairly easy & the tent was better quality than my old thermal clam shelter . The bolts for shanty were perfect length. The runner kit was nice but the bolts seemed a little bit short on filling the locknut . Overall a 4.8 out of 5 stars so far ! I am hoping for the MOTHER of all winters to put it to the real test 🎣
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the idea is to run the short bolt even/flush to the top of the rubberized and cupped washers and nut.
all the other brands are too long and they can damage your items inside the tub. these short bolts won't stick up and past the nut to help with that issue.
also the runners are reversible so when the back gets thinned out you reverse them and get more time with them. the bolt hole placement was made for that reason. best quality runners i have used. very well thought out product.
maybe run them in tighter and flatten out the cup or rubber some more until the bolt is even with the top of the nut. i can get pics if you want to see them tighten fully.
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3300, I'd like to see pics to make sure I did it right! @)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/fVZM40yg/SHAPPELL-NUT-and-BOLT-SYSTEM.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/fVZM40yg)
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Assembled mine last weekend. Was a smooth process but did warm up the trim to help with flexibility and had to flatten one of the cupped washers a little during wear bar installation to get a little more bolt room for the nut. Looking forward to a warmer/lighter shack compared to the old Frabill Trekker I've been using the last 8 years.
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tip, install front bolt first. the sled will hold it for you this way.
run them in as you go until finished in the back where you fish. you might be tempted to skip a few to try to align it better, but don't.
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Just ordered mine last night from Basspro, free shipping!! Can't wait, I've had my rover1 for about 10 years now, I'm looking forward to the extra fishing space, as well as insulation. I was surprised it only weighed 5lbs more than the fx100, I think I can manage to tow an extra 5!
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(https://i.postimg.cc/fVZM40yg/SHAPPELL-NUT-and-BOLT-SYSTEM.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/fVZM40yg)
Thanks for the picture. I have them installed correctly . I am going to check them as winter goes to see if they loosen up as I’m pretty hard on stuff 😁
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After having had bolts come loose, etc...I go to the hw store and pick up some replacements to keep in a little bag in my tackle bag in the shanty....never know when you might need a nut or bolt....
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Well I got the first part of my sportsmans guide order. My fx100i is backorder till Nov 10th or so, shouldn't have waited so long to jump on the deal
(https://i.postimg.cc/JDqqrbRZ/20181024-211131.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JDqqrbRZ)
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Well I got the first part of my sportsmans guide order. My fx100i is backorder till Nov 10th or so, shouldn't have waited so long to jump on the deal
(https://i.postimg.cc/JDqqrbRZ/20181024-211131.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JDqqrbRZ)
That's the hyfax kit for those not sure
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That's the hyfax kit for those not sure
Yeah, I also waited to order to long order one. Expected ship date on my fx100i is 10/30, but I have the Hyfax and cover here already...
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Yeah, I also waited to order to long order one. Expected ship date on my fx100i is 10/30, but I have the Hyfax and cover here already...
Ah dang.. Just looked at my order and it got pushed back to that same day :'(
Guess I won't be adding any mods before first ice.
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Yeah, I also waited to order to long order one. Expected ship date on my fx100i is 10/30, but I have the Hyfax and cover here already...
Came home today to mine!! Got an email yesterday saying it was shipping, such a nice suprise having it early! Hopefully yours comes soon laer0302!
(https://i.postimg.cc/wRx8VGpz/20181101-180203.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRx8VGpz)
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Where is everyone getting your hyfax kits at, any deals to be had on them?
Is there a thread for modded fx100s already?
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Yep, I got mine yesterday as well. Started unpacking everything and laying it out for assembly, and I ended up being short a piece. One of the Seat Risers. E-mailed Eagle Claw, and they are going to send me a new one right away, so pretty happy with that.
I did get the hyfax kit installed yesterday evening(which was a pain the a**, btw) and half of the seat assembly. The rest of it will probably be put on hold until after deer hunting season.
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Where is everyone getting your hyfax kits at, any deals to be had on them?
Is there a thread for modded fx100s already?
I ordered the hyfax kit and cover through Sportsman's Guide at the same time that I ordered the shelter.
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Where is everyone getting your hyfax kits at, any deals to be had on them?
Is there a thread for modded fx100s already?
i was lucky to get hyfax kit from seller when i bought mine. it was their last one. i wouldn't wait too long to get one and they are easier to install before adding the bars and tent. just start on the front of the sled and let it hold the hyfax as you bend it for the next hole. don't skip any holes to align it, just keep going front to back in order.
latest mods thread.
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=360366.msg3859534#msg3859534
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So I had ordered the fx100i as soon as I saw Sportsman's Guide had it for sale. Got it awhile ago it was the rounded corner EMT conduit frame for the tent to hook to. My tent had a small hole in the sewing at the top where stiching was missing. Called both Eagle Claw and Sportsman's Guide and they said they would just ship me a new flipover and I can pull out the cover and send the other one back. Got the new one today it has a whole different tent structure. It now has short bolt together tubes and plastic corners. A dog leg drop at the tub to hold the sides down to the ice as well as bigger flaps with more velcro to hold down the wind skirt... not going to lie the changes in the instructions look nice, going to see if this top is at all different from my original or if I'm gonna be swapping the whole top halfs. My tub is already drilled and modded. Wish I had recieved this one first.
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Just opened the tent up. The reflective strips on the outside corners are about 2inches longer. The new tent cover has a second access zipper (at the front of the tub for gear.) The tent is much longer than the first version. I just tried to velcro it on the old frame and the ground tube isnt even at the bottom of the door, let alone close to the new velcro, I'd say approx 6 inches away, not sure if its a height or length difference but the new tent doesnt fit the old bars. It does have some nice improvements, velcro connectors on the sides for attaching the tent to the bars helping keep it from falling on the ice when folded down and to keep it from moving in wind when up. It also has reinforced corners where the plastic corner pieces will contact the roof. It has significantly larger wind flaps with twice the velcro to hold them down with. I will say this tent and frame structure has to be 5lbs heavier though. The new folding brackets are 3 or 4 times larger than the old ones, and 30ish more allen head bolts and nuts to hold the tube frame together (its now made of short male female tube pieces all bolted together). It is still round emt tube but with plastic corners. The plastic corners have a solid piece in them that will have to be drilled if wanting to run wiring inside the tubing. The tubs measure out the same, only 4 new holes on the upper lip for the brackets, and the velcro down the back of the tub is about an inch longer.
The vents are about a half inch smaller both lenght and width.
Gonna call tomorrow to talk about swapping the whole frame assembly and tents.
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So theres two versions of the fx100i?
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What's your guys opinion on the wear bar kit? Absolute necessity? Does it help the sled pull easier? My 100i should be here tomorrow, upgrading from the rover 1 i've had for 10 years, I never put a kit on my Rover but I'm wondering if I should hold off putting everything together and ordering the kit to install first. Thanks in advance :tipup:
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What's your guys opinion on the wear bar kit? Absolute necessity? Does it help the sled pull easier? My 100i should be here tomorrow, upgrading from the rover 1 i've had for 10 years, I never put a kit on my Rover but I'm wondering if I should hold off putting everything together and ordering the kit to install first. Thanks in advance :tipup:
i really dont think my fx100 pulls easier with hyfax in deep snow but does prevent wearing holes in the sled which sucks.i put hyfax on all my sleds.
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So theres two versions of the fx100i?
I’ve got the same question! I’m wondering if that other version would be better
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thanks for the updates! so does it still have the velcro for tent to tub flaps?
the fx100 has seen a total of six versions now since they came out.
will be hard for us to know how to order the dogleg version now that they got them out. they have been talking about that and other upgrades like we just read about. i was one to ask (mike at shappell) them to incorporate them a few years ago as some had been doing it on their own on lakes i fish.
makes me want to get the upgraded version, just not sure what they will call it in order to make sure we get the correct version. shappell always tries to improve their products and the fx series has seen plenty of change and always for the better.
i'll make a call too to try to figure it out.
the hyfax is a must for me. it makes pulling in slush much easier and much quieter beside protecting the tub. most tub holes are in the rear corner/edge from what i hear. i put them on sleds and on all the different flip over style shanties i buy of shappell only. i think it helps with snow sticking to the tub some also while seated in it.
we fish a lot of slushy conditions (top layer of snow ice gets soft) and my friend has one with out the hyfax and we did the how far can you wing it test. the hyfax proved it's worth besides the noise difference.
it is easier to install the hyfax kit before doing any thing else.
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Almost all the time I use a smitty sled so in my situation the Hyfax is a waste of money.
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Definitely a new version if I knew how to post pictures on here I could post a picture of the UPC and see if maybe it's different from the old one
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Bass Pro shows the fx100i @ $279.99. But it also shows 300 Denier fabric. It would be nice to know if that is correct and if there are two versions of the same model.
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The instructions have a lot number of 081018.
The main picture /sticker on the front of the box seems to be a large generic picture but it has small pictures across the bottom and the left one says front zippered door. The picture shows inside thru the door and you can see the back access window open in it.
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Bass Pro shows the fx100i @ $279.99. But it also shows 300 Denier fabric. It would be nice to know if that is correct and if there are two versions of the same model.
I ordered mine from bass pro, getting it tomorrow, it ships directly from shappell.
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Bass Pro shows the fx100i @ $279.99. But it also shows 300 Denier fabric. It would be nice to know if that is correct and if there are two versions of the same model.
Front of the Box reads: Extreme-duty 600D polyester fabric with 7 g/m2 of insulation.
It also says 41 pounds which I feel like the old box said either 42 or 47 lbs?
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thanks for the updates! so does it still have the velcro for tent to tub flaps?
Sorry I missed this. Yes it does, the velcro on the tub itself goes about an inch closer to the ground now. The tent skirting continues back much further and has a big piece where there is about a foot long piece of velcro to attach to the tub now
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Im going to get one but i think i want the dog leg version or newer one.idk which on is better or what places are selling what model.i will most likely be buying online...
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Does anyone have a picture to post of the dog leg improvement?
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Pics would help me out for sure.id rather have the improved model with a serial number or something to tell which one im buying.
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Original one
(https://i.postimg.cc/crWsChPB/20181104-114315.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crWsChPB)
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New wind flap
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hc5rDx7Y/20181104-114859.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hc5rDx7Y)
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New back access, note, this is over the old frame thats why it doesnt fit.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PPKPk0Nw/20181104-114920.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PPKPk0Nw)
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I originally said this was EMT conduit but after looking at it it looks like it may be a bit bigger tube. My emt connectors arent fitting on and where the holes are isn't crushed in like the older version
(https://i.postimg.cc/F7QNnpZJ/20181104-120058.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F7QNnpZJ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9R6C2YHK/20181104-120107.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9R6C2YHK)
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Box from the new one.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3dKbRfFh/20181104-122219.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3dKbRfFh)
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is the tube still emt just painted black or aluminum? does the rear hatch door have rain flaps over it or any pics of the outside of it?
thanks for the pics! looking better all the time.
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Thanks for the pictures!
I'm not too fond of those plastic corners myself..
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is the tube still emt just painted black or aluminum? does the rear hatch door have rain flaps over it or any pics of the outside of it?
thanks for the pics! looking better all the time.
The outside looks super similar, no rain flys over the zippers.
Tube is definitely alittle larger than the old conduit, and to heavy to be aluminum. Running wiring though these tubes will be much harder, with the male female connections and large bolts holding it together.
Disassembled the old structure and started building the new. The new one takes alot longer to put together.
I am missing a seat riser pole though... gonna call EagleClaw tomorrow hopefully they can send just a single part so I can fully assemble it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HVnZCct4/20181104-124847.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVnZCct4)
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Yep, I got mine yesterday as well. Started unpacking everything and laying it out for assembly, and I ended up being short a piece. One of the Seat Risers. E-mailed Eagle Claw, and they are going to send me a new one right away, so pretty happy with that.
I did get the hyfax kit installed yesterday evening(which was a pain the a**, btw) and half of the seat assembly. The rest of it will probably be put on hold until after deer hunting season.
Missing the same part, atleast its a known issue.
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Thanks for the pictures!
I'm not too fond of those plastic corners myself..
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I'm leary as well, they seem solid but not near as nice as the old version. If it wasnt a big name company I'd probably just ask them to find me the correct tent for my version.
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Huh that zipper will definitely leak water after time in the elements.should have a rain/snow flap over it.i want to pull the trigger on one.but think i may way till guys get some use out of them.im not a fan of the plastic corners either.
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Not happy about eagle claw taking this company over honestly, seems to be getting quite the Chinese feel overall..
And I know it's just looks, but I don't like the red zippers either..
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Not happy about eagle claw taking this company over honestly, seems to be getting quite the Chinese feel overall..
And I know it's just looks, but I don't like the red zippers either..
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yeah red zippers are not appealing to me.all my shappell shelters being the fx100 and wide house 6500 are shappell brand before eagle claw took over.no problems with them but now you hear about missing parts,tears.im waiting on getting one for now.sled is small and that front zipper is not needed,imo so that zipper is just a leak point maybe wind could get in too.idk
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Im going to get one but i think i want the dog leg version or newer one.idk which on is better or what places are selling what model.i will most likely be buying online...
Franks Outdoors in Linwood is having their Shanty Days next month. Might be worth the drive to get a close up look at one if they have it. I haven't seen them any place local.
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Franks Outdoors in Linwood is having their Shanty Days next month. Might be worth the drive to get a close up look at one if they have it. I haven't seen them any place local.
my local family farm and home carries shappell shelters so im waiting for them to get a few..
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Looked closer at mine that i got a few days ago and I have the same UPC as Peccavi18, and looked inside quick and the corner pieces are plastic and the shelter has the rear access.
Now I'm wondering if i should be worried about these corners and other stuff. Suppose only way to find out is set it up. Didn't really want to be the Guinea pig though
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Tubing on the new structure is around .77in and the old tubing is around .71in.
I'll be calling Eagleclaw tomorrow for the missing piece, so I'll be asking about why they went plastic and short tubes, and if they are concerned with the plastic having any issues. Also next time I'm at Home Depot I will be checking to see what EMT conduit pieces they have that could swap to make a possible replacement corner piece. For now I will guinea pig this one out and build it up. If its bad enough I have to sew rain flys over the zipper though I will be moving to another brand.
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my local family farm and home carries shappell shelters so im waiting for them to get a few..
Another place that sells a lot of Shappell shacks is Dunhams. Might be worth taking a look there too.
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remember the rear window will leak water from rain or melting snow as does the front on any shelter that uses velcro to hold them in. my gander mountain 8x8 and shappell wh6500 and shappell dx3000 all leak at the windows because velcro can not hold out water after enough is on top of the bottom edge of the window(s). they could sew in rain covers that roll up and tie like real tents have/had on the outside and use velcro or magnets to hold in place when unrolled.
there was no reason not to add a rain/wind fly to the rear zipper. that's the side that takes the brunt of the elements. they added it to the front zipper on 1st version of the fx100i and this as you know is the downwind side after we setup. none of the older versions had a rain fly any where. at least they started using it.
the plastic corners should be fine and are under warranty. there's not that much pressure on them.
i know there is a shappell marketing manager that is a member here and should be reading our posts. hopefully it gets back to shappell.
still waiting on wind bars from them.
the red is eagle claws name in red and they are using it to accent areas of the shelter. i don't mind it at all.
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The outside looks super similar, no rain flys over the zippers.
Tube is definitely alittle larger than the old conduit, and to heavy to be aluminum. Running wiring though these tubes will be much harder, with the male female connections and large bolts holding it together.
Disassembled the old structure and started building the new. The new one takes alot longer to put together.
I am missing a seat riser pole though... gonna call EagleClaw tomorrow hopefully they can send just a single part so I can fully assemble it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HVnZCct4/20181104-124847.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVnZCct4)
Same thing happened with mine, missing the seat riser. I emailed them and they are sending me a replacement at no cost.
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Peccavi18, how goes it? anxious to see the dogleg pics if/when you can swing it.
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Just got off work and called Eagle Claw, talked to them about a few things. He said in testing they've drilled holes through the corners and put ice anchors in the holes to keep the tent from moving in the wind, and there should be no issue at all with the strength. I also asked if I could drill up through partition in the corner to run wiring and again he said no problem. And if we come up with any issues just to give a call and they'll make it right. The smaller sections of tube came about because they needed an easier way to ship them, and they had had issues with the Emt conduit getting bent so the new tube is thicker and maybe a couple pounds heavier but the new bigger tent adds some weight as well. Overall approx 6-7lbs compared to the first version tent.
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The new tubes are much taller and longer than the silver ones.
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I just got mine today, i got the black powder coated newer version. Everything looks good except I’m missing a seat riser, so I can’t really do anything....I will say that the fabric is good, it will be a huge upgrade from my 10 yr old rover 1! :tipup:
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The new tubes are much taller and longer than the silver ones.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9zTphfL/20181104-191959.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9zTphfL)
(https://i.postimg.cc/87dMq8zW/20181104-192116.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/87dMq8zW)
Wow, that's cool at least, that should make it about the perfect Goldilocks size (not too little, not too big, just right)...
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I just got mine today, i got the black powder coated newer version. Everything looks good except I’m missing a seat riser, so I can’t really do anything....I will say that the fabric is good, it will be a huge upgrade from my 10 yr old rover 1! :tipup:
It seems like everyone is having the issue with the missing seat riser. My replacement part should be here tomorrow, Wednesday at the latest.
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So anybody have the weight specs on these new model fx100i shacks?
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On the phone EagleClaw said that the silver bar version of the fx100I was right around 41-42 lbs. The Black bar version (new one) adds about six to seven pounds to that for the thicker tube and the larger tent with extras so you're looking at 47-49lbs.
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Dang.the one part i liked about the fx100 series was its lightweight features.not really liking it getting heavier for its size.ill wait on getting one and let the guys field test them this year.i might get one next year.they can do away with that zipper too.
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Wow, that's cool at least, that should make it about the perfect Goldilocks size (not too little, not too big, just right)...
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I have mostly 24" rods but two 28" ones. I didnt think I would be able to use in this tent. With this extra lenght they may be tight but I think they will be usable in this version.
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On the phone EagleClaw said that the silver bar version of the fx100I was right around 41-42 lbs. The Black bar version (new one) adds about six to seven pounds to that for the thicker tube and the larger tent with extras so you're looking at 47-49lbs.
Thats odd, on my box it says 41lbs but its the black bar version :tipup:
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There is only one true way to find out and that would be to weight it. I know I weighed my fx100 on a bathroom scale. Had to balance it on a 5 gallon bucket but it worked, subtract the 2 lbs for the bucket and that should get you the weight.
I was really excited to get the FX100i this year but it appears that all their modifications were for the worse. Rear access instead of a side door? heavier in weight than previous model just released? Not sure I want to spend my money on it now...
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I was really excited to get the FX100i this year but it appears that all their modifications were for the worse. Rear access instead of a side door? heavier in weight than previous model just released? Not sure I want to spend my money on it now...
I think I'm glad I got the first version of the 100i :-)
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Rear access instead of a side door? heavier in weight than previous model just released?
I'll weight mine tonight, hopefully. As far as a side door, they would have had to redesign the whole pole system and I don't think it would be a flip n go anymore.. and probably heavier still. The new otters you have to set up a corner pole for support. My opinion is in a small one man shelter a side door wouldn't help as your still stepping over stuff.
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The plastic corner pieces wont be a problem at all, they look almost exactly like the Frabill corners....its much cheaper for them to use those over bending the emt. Is the .006ish difference in diameter the difference in painted vs not painted?
It'd be nice if they had an extended wind flap like Frabill but the velcro flap to tub attachment is nice
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Is anyone else having assembly issues with the new version(black powder-coated)? I got my replacement seat riser today that wasn't shipped with it originally and started working on the assembly. First of all, the rear hole that was drilled for the seat rail didn't line up, it was about a half inch too short. One side I was able to get to work by installing the rail to the sled and the seat riser first, then installing the riser with the bolts going in backwards, so the nut is on the outside of the sled, not the inside. It was a tight fit, but I was able to get it to work. The second one I could not get to work that way, I ended up having to drill a new rear mounting hole for the rail.
After the rails were installed, next up was attaching the seat. I attached one side, and then realized that the seat is nearly two inches too long, and there is no way that it will connect to the other side. From what I can tell from the pictures in the manual, the rails are supposed to be installed on the inside of the seat risers. In order to get the seat attached, I had to move one of the rails to the outside of the riser, so it's basically above the edge of the sled now.
Next up is installing the brackets that the poles mount to, I started installing the side with seat rail mounted "incorrectly" first, the side that's over the edge of the sled, and I'm pretty certain that having the seat rail there is going to interfere with flipping the poles over.
I've looked over and re-read the instructions several times, and everything is installed exactly like it's supposed to be according to the manual. I'm going to call them tomorrow, but I'm curious to see if anyone else is having these issues or if it's just me. If it's just me, I might have something screwed up, and might take everything apart and start over.
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Laer0302, or anyone else with the new shelter.. Do your C and D bolts actually have a smooth body above the thread or is the picture wrong? Mine are completely threaded, guessing it won't be a big deal just wanted to check.
So far I haven't had anything missing or issues, unless the bolts are wrong, but I've just started. I'll let you know about the seat laer.
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I installed the poles, (even though I am short some of the rubber washers) and put the one seat riser I got in. I was having the exact same problem the seat rails not lining up with the riser, Im also having issues getting the pole frame brackets to line up with the riser. I loosened all the seating bolts and wondered if I installed the riser upside down, nothing was making them line up. The seat itself seemed wide but didnt think about it since I still dont have the second riser, and everything else wasn't fitting. Really thinking I should have just found someone to sew the missed seam on the silver pole version, and sprayed it with some waterproofer and been done.
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Laer0302, or anyone else with the new shelter.. Do your C and D bolts actually have a smooth body above the thread or is the picture wrong? Mine are completely threaded, guessing it won't be a big deal just wanted to check.
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Fully threaded, no smooth portions on C or D in my kit.
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Laer0302, or anyone else with the new shelter.. Do your C and D bolts actually have a smooth body above the thread or is the picture wrong? Mine are completely threaded, guessing it won't be a big deal just wanted to check.
So far I haven't had anything missing or issues, unless the bolts are wrong, but I've just started. I'll let you know about the seat laer.
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Now that you mention it, I don't think they did. The D bolts definitely don't, all of the C bolts I have installed so can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure those were threaded completely as well. The A and B bolts did have a partially smooth body though.
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I installed the poles, (even though I am short some of the rubber washers) and put the one seat riser I got in. I was having the exact same problem the seat rails not lining up with the riser, Im also having issues getting the pole frame brackets to line up with the riser. I loosened all the seating bolts and wondered if I installed the riser upside down, nothing was making them line up. The seat itself seemed wide but didnt think about it since I still dont have the second riser, and everything else wasn't fitting. Really thinking I should have just found someone to sew the missed seam on the silver pole version, and sprayed it with some waterproofer and been done.
I'm going to see what shappell says when I call them tomorrow, but I'm tempted to just return the whole dang thing. Maybe invest in a Clam Legend XL instead.
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Laer0302, I've had the same thought a few times today. If I still had a box for it, I probably would have called SG to see if I could just return it. Usually ice fishing and tinkering are my happy place, tonight trying to build this I've been VERY annoyed.
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Laer0302, I've had the same thought a few times today. If I still had a box for it, I probably would have called SG to see if I could just return it. Usually ice fishing and tinkering are my happy place, tonight trying to build this I've been VERY annoyed.
Same here. Every step of the way there was an issue. From the missing part, to absolutely nothing installing correctly. I wonder if they had left over parts from the first iteration of the fx100i, but thought they should work with this version or something, and just used up those parts? I dunno, it's just how off everything is. Who knows, maybe it's the wrong sled or something.
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Same here. Every step of the way there was an issue. From the missing part, to absolutely nothing installing correctly. I wonder if they had left over parts from the first iteration of the fx100i, but thought they should work with this version or something, and just used up those parts? I dunno, it's just how off everything is. Who knows, maybe it's the wrong sled or something.
You literally just read my mind... I was wondering if the sled wasn't drilled to to spec or something. The silver bar version was exactly the same except it didn't have the four holes on the rail for the pole frames to mount to. The other parts were all a different kind of tube from what these are.
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Anyone far enough along to have put their cover on yet? I just decieded to try it. The front of the tent is huge compared to the frame. The fishable area in the front is like 2ft smaller than the silver tube version because it sags in so much. All the velcro is tight, the back is held tight with clams and the front folding braces are locked opened, but it just sags back into the seat. In the wind this thing will be a danger to rod tips and annoying as hell while slapping around. Im gonna say it right now, IF YOU GET THE BLACK BAR VERSION, RETURN IT. They need to do some major redesigns and testing before this tent is worth any of this aggravation.
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Anyone far enough along to have put their cover on yet? I just decieded to try it. The front of the tent is huge compared to the frame. The fishable area in the front is like 2ft smaller than the silver tube version because it sags in so much. All the velcro is tight, the back is held tight with clams and the front folding braces are locked opened, but it just sags back into the seat. In the wind this thing will be a danger to rod tips and annoying as hell while slapping around. Im gonna say it right now, IF YOU GET THE BLACK BAR VERSION, RETURN IT. They need to do some major redesigns and testing before this tent is worth any of this aggravation.
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Geeze, yeah, I'm just gonna return mine I think, not even gonna bother with calling Shappell. Gonna go with the Clam Legend XL probably.
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I tried pulling the excess tent down under the bottom frame rail, it tightens it up some but still not enough to remove the sag. Even then it would have to be screwed to the plastic corners or cut and zip tied to really stay where it is in the pics. It needs the holes for the folding brace to be moved, even then I think the material on the sides would still be loose. If anyone has a solution, I'm all ears.
I'll be calling Eagleclaw again in the morning, and unless they have some answers I'll probably also call SG to see if they will take it back. I liked the silver tube version but I wouldn't chance this again. >:(
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How about making a spreader poles , I made them to tighten up my Kenai
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I'm looking to replace the 20 year old Clam Scout I have and was considering the fx100i. After reading this entire post on it, I won't consider it anymore. I'm sorry you guys are having so many problems but glad you have posted them. I will start looking at Clam or Eskimo products now. The old Scout has served me well but I'd like something a little bigger.
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Yeah sorry about the hassles guys but this new model fx100i looks like a cobbled up pos.i was going to buy one but not now.i thought the one 3300 got was the design i was going to buy but as soon as I heard there was a design change and comments on missing parts,weight change,ridiculous front zipper,cheap plastic corners and oversized tent for the frame..im out.guys shouldnt have to be the guinea pigs and those updated changes should be out for us to see before selling.jmo
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That sucks that you guys are having these issues. I sure hope Shappell/Eagle Claw stands up and makes this right. Looks like QC and R&D went out the door when Eagle Claw came in. Too bad, Shappell always had a decent icefisher following.
I had a 150 that I liked (for size) but sold it when I realized I really wanted an insulated tent in a quickflip.
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How about making a spreader poles , I made them to tighten up my Kenai
I wanted a lightweight, quick run and gun flipover. This is turning out to be none of that. Its heavier, its missing pieces, pieces dont match the parts list, its not lining up, powdercoat is to thick to slide tubes together you have to beat/scrape them to get them together, the tent is way to large compared to the front portion of the frame. I went to school for product design, I work construction maintenance, and fabricate custom stuff often. I'm used to "modifying" things to make them work, this has been a bad joke. I went to bed annoyed, and woke up pissed just thinking about it. I have hours into trying to build this thing already and it sucks. I feel bad returning it because its not SG's fault but I dont want it, its junk. I dont want to risk a nice rod tip to a tent that is gonna flap like a flag in the wind. I have a 2 man Shappell flip and an Eskimo Quickfish3I that I'll continue to use. I'm not a fan of Clam's products, their quality in my opinion had dropped but I'd definitely take one of their tents over this.
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I will say I did like the silver tube version, I'm hoping that EagleClaw can locate one (that all the seams are sewn correctly on) somewhere and will swap me.
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All of this makes me glad I kept my fx50 windbreak (Rover style). It's not insulated but keeps the wolf out, lightweight (27#) and well built (pre- Eagle Claw).
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I jumped on the sportsman’s guide model when it was first offered. I received the silver tube version and all parts were supplied for assembly. After reading these posts I’m very happy with this being my first one man shelter. Just sharing a positive experience since mine has no defects.
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I have a pre eagle claw shappell fx100.i wanted the same thing but with a thermal tent..thats it.i will not be buying one at all after reading this thread.
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Man, this has turned into such a trainwreck..
The original FX-100 might be the single most endorsed shelter ever. It covered everything, lightest, strongest, made in the USA, no other one man flip could touch it..
Now it's looking like something to run from, a real shame..
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I have a pre eagle claw shappell fx100.i wanted the same thing but with a thermal tent..thats it.i will not be buying one at all after reading this thread.
My thoughts as well!
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Boy I'm considering packing mine back up before I even attempt to put it together and before I throw the box away. This whole tent being huge makes me nervous. :tipup:
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Yeah, I'm so frustrated with the whole dang process with this shelter. Was looking forward to modding it up and customizing it, and now have to deal with the hassle of un-assembling it and packing the thing back up, and sending it back. At least I saved the box... Then have to pick out a new shelter, have it delivered, and assemble it, and first ice is right around the corner here in MN. Ugh.
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Yeah, I hear ya....the problem is picking out something new. Maybe I'll just go with the FX100 unless they changed the frame design of that. Or I'll look into something else. Anyone have any idea how much weight you can ditch from a flip over if you don't use the boat seat?
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Ice Runner has a new single man house this year that intrigues me: https://www.icerunnerhouses.com/online-store/Ice-House-Escape-p118014439. Super lightweight, and plenty of head room, but I'm a little leery of being a "guinea pig" again on another brand new shelter model this year.
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I love my Clam Blazer Stealth thermal. I haul it into the boundary waters and it is light and strong.
I have a second Flip-over for fishing outside the Boundary Waters that I can pull with my SnowDog.
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I jumped on the sportsman’s guide model when it was first offered. I received the silver tube version and all parts were supplied for assembly. After reading these posts I’m very happy with this being my first one man shelter. Just sharing a positive experience since mine has no defects.
I'm in the same boat. I'd been following FX100i news since last year and hopped on the deal early this year. I guess I lucked out and got the silver-tube version with all parts included. Hoping things turn out well for those that have received this 'updated' version and that Shappell gets things turned around quickly.
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Ice Runner has a new single man house this year that intrigues me: https://www.icerunnerhouses.com/online-store/Ice-House-Escape-p118014439. Super lightweight, and plenty of head room, but I'm a little leery of being a "guinea pig" again on another brand new shelter model this year.
Jeez......$399.99. I definitely won't be a guinea pig at that price.
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Well, length is good and height ok but width at 30"? I'd give up a little in height just to have that extra elbow room. I like to turn around in either direction without bumping into anything. But that's just me. Decent price though.
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I called shappell about an hour ago. They put me in contact with the guy who does imports, who helped with the design of this fx100i. I left him a voicemail, waiting to hear back. If they can get me a good condition silver tube version I would be happy.
I dont have a box, But I'll gladly go buy cardboard and make one just to not have this version.
I am a fan of the idea where I spend money once. I always research products, and I usually pay more but try to get the best I can afford. I was so excited to see the deal for these a few months ago, Alittle disappointed when the silver one had a fist sized hole in the seam, but both Eagleclaw and SG were willing to work with me. If the black plastic corners hadnt fallen out when I pulled the tent out there is a chance I would have returned the new one without even knowing it or testing the new tent on the old frame.
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Jeez......$399.99. I definitely won't be a guinea pig at that price.
Yeah, if I were to go this route, I'd wait to see if Sportsman's Guide is going to carry them, (they have the other two ice runner models) then wait for a double discount coupon code day, and then order it. I'm probably gonna go with a Clam or Eskimo model though.
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that flat roof on the ice runner shelter needs a pitch/slope or rain/snow will sit there and start leaking.jmo
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The skylight feature is funny. I do like the rear entry. ;D
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Well that sucks... Like you know I have the new 100i, I haven't had any missing parts but also not very far along setting it up and now worried I'm going to have big issues with the tent. I was so sold on this shelter with all the reputation behind them and excited to get my first flip for a light weight run n gun vs my hub. Was planning on completing it tonight when I got home but now I'm not sure I want to go through the hassle if its going to be a pos. But a small part of me wants to set it up in hopes I didn't get a lemon, but I'm sure the odds are slim. Hopefully I can return the hyfax I installed also.
Not sure what I will do yet but have a time to decide.
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Well that sucks... Like you know I have the new 100i, I haven't had any missing parts but also not very far along setting it up and now worried I'm going to have big issues with the tent. I was so sold on this shelter with all the reputation behind them and excited to get my first flip for a light weight run n gun vs my hub. Was planning on completing it tonight when I got home but now I'm not sure I want to go through the hassle if its going to be a pos. But a small part of me wants to set it up in hopes I didn't get a lemon, but I'm sure the odds are slim. Hopefully I can return the hyfax I installed also.
Not sure what I will do yet but have a time to decide.
Are your poles black powder coated, or silver? If they are silver, you got the first iteration, and are probably okay. If they are black, odds are that it's bad unit.
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was very glad to see improvements as they always have tried to do. seems like this round was rushed out a little too fast. i know some of it is made here and some offshore so mistakes can and will happen, but they will fix them for you. there won't be any more conduit/silver bar fx100's made or any other models after the conduit versions are sold out. if you find one, it is older stock like mine is.
i feel bad for those of you who have been inconvenienced. if you just give them a chance, they make right with you as always. the good part about all of this is the cost remains the same for features we get. i think it will be worth it when the wrinkles are gone.
been on the phone for 37 minutes with eagle claw. they all are avid ice fishermen/women and do read these boards. while talking with them i was given permission to say the following:
they have been testing the frame and tent for two years and went modular powder coated frame for shipping size for replacement parts. there were a few tubs with holes drilled wrong for the seat post, but has been addressed.
anyone having ANY type of issue is asked to call warranty department at 720-941-8723. they will make it right.
folding braces are defective and about a week out for free replacement.
wind flaps will be added to zippers. next production will be early january and changes will be made then such as wind/storm flaps on all zippers. they have a new manufacturer for tents and poles. same one for tubs that are made here.
free tent replacements for anyone unhappy with wind flap or leaky tents. (i would hold out for the wind/storm flap version if you can.)
the missing seat tubes are located inside the 3/4" seat slide tubes. just bang them on the ground and they will fall out.
i made a suggestion to call the new "improved version" deluxe as they did when they had the s3000/s4000 and then came out with the deluxe version and naming the improved version dx3000/dx4000 so we know what we are getting when shopping before hand. the s stood for standard version.
i explained what made shappell popular and that they need to try to keep those things going for us the best that they can.
Peccavi18: he said after looking at your situation, that the tent must be sewn incorrectly and call warranty for a replacement and to check if every thing else is ok.
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was very glad to see improvements as they always have tried to do. seems like this round was rushed out a little too fast. i know some of it is made here and some offshore so mistakes can and will happen, but they will fix them for you. there won't be any more conduit/silver bar fx100's made or any other models after the conduit versions are sold out. if you find one, it is older stock like mine is.
i feel bad for those of you who have been inconvenienced. if you just give them a chance, they make right with you as always. the good part about all of this is the cost remains the same for features we get. i think it will be worth it when the wrinkles are gone.
been on the phone for 37 minutes with eagle claw. they all are avid ice fishermen/women and do read these boards. while talking with them i was given permission to say the following:
they have been testing the frame and tent for two years and went modular powder coated frame for shipping size for replacement parts. there were a few tubs with holes drilled wrong for the seat post, but has been addressed.
anyone having ANY type of issue is asked to call warranty department at 720-941-8723. they will make it right.
folding braces are defective and about a week out for free replacement.
wind flaps will be added to zippers. next production will be early january and changes will be made then such as wind/storm flaps on all zippers. they have a new manufacturer for tents and poles. same one for tubs that are made here.
free tent replacements for anyone unhappy with wind flap or leaky tents. (i would hold out for the wind/storm flap version if you can.)
i made a suggestion to call the new "improved version" deluxe as they did when they had the s3000/s4000 and then came out with the deluxe version and naming the improved version dx3000/dx4000 so we know what we are getting when shopping before hand. the s stood for standard version.
i explained what made shappell popular and that they need to try to keep those things going for us the best that they can.
Peccavi18: he said after looking at your situation, that the tent must be sewn incorrectly and call warranty for a replacement and to check if every thing else is ok.
Hi 3300, thanks for the info. It's kinda strange to me though that if they read these boards, and see the issues we are having, why aren't they responding with any feedback? You'd think they would want to jump on these issues right away and offer some kind of reassurance and/or a procedure to have these issues fixed for us. I'm happy that you went out of your way to get us the info you provided above, but I would think that Eagle Claw/Shappell should have volunteered this info or added it themselves when they saw all the issues that we are having. I suppose it's possible they just haven't checked the forums yet since yesterday evening..
I'll call them when I get off work at 5pm and see what they have to say. It will take an awful lot of convincing/reassurance to get me to keep this shelter and not return it.
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That's good information 3300! I have always liked this brand and it is really the perfect 1 man for what I need. After looking at other comparable models which I have been for some time, there really isn't anything near this weight that offers a wider fishing area (that was my big reason for getting this) I loved my Rover 1, but 2 holes was a really tight fit and a pain in windy conditions. I suppose I'll wait for my riser, and attempt to put it together. If I have issues I'll call :tipup:
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3300 I just got online and read about one line of your response and they called me back. Very nice guy, listened to my problems and he told me the exact same thing as what you have written. I just happen to have a list of compounding issues that they are willing to address. They had some tents that were sewn long and they're going to talk to their warehouse and make sure they find me a normal one. He said the new folding braces are about a week out and he will get me a new set of those. The tubs are US made and drilled in house he said he's going to have quality control look at them and make sure the holes are going in the right places and there's a possibility I'll be getting a new tub as well. He wanted to talk to me first and then he was going to call his warehouses and quality control to make sure he can get me all the parts and he'll call me back tomorrow. I also asked about the tubes and he said it's the exact same EMT conduit but the powder coating makes it thicker so it looks like a bigger tube since it's done inside and out. I also mentioned the new weight asking how much did it going up in weight and he said probably only a pound or two. I don't have an scale that I can easily set this on to weigh, to confirm or deny that. He seemed like he really wanted to make this right with me so I'm willing to work with them and see if we can get this fixed and working like it should.
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3300 I just got online and read about one line of your response and they called me back. Very nice guy, listened to my problems and he told me the exact same thing as what you have written. I just happen to have a list of compounding issues that they are willing to address. They had some tents that were sewn long and they're going to talk to their warehouse and make sure they find me a normal one. He said the new folding braces are about a week out and he will get me a new set of those. The tubs are US made and drilled in house he said he's going to have quality control look at them and make sure the holes are going in the right places and there's a possibility I'll be getting a new tub as well. He wanted to talk to me first and then he was going to call his warehouses and quality control to make sure he can get me all the parts and he'll call me back tomorrow. I also asked about the tubes and he said it's the exact same EMT conduit but the powder coating makes it thicker so it looks like a bigger tube since it's done inside and out. I also mentioned the new weight asking how much did it going up in weight and he said probably only a pound or two. I don't have an scale that I can easily set this on to weigh, to confirm or deny that. He seemed like he really wanted to make this right with me so I'm willing to work with them and see if we can get this fixed and working like it should.
Glad to hear your talk with them went good. Did you talk about the seat at all? Both with how the seat rails don't align properly with sled, and the bench seat itself being way to long? I'll be calling them later this evening, provided they are still open after I get off work.
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Glad to hear your talk with them went good. Did you talk about the seat at all? Both with how the seat rails don't align properly with sled, and the bench seat itself being way to long? I'll be calling them later this evening, provided they are still open after I get off work.
He said the seat rails were off because of the quality control issues with drilling the tub. I never mentioned the seat itself because I haven't honestly had two risers to even make sure that mine's too wide but I also am thinking about the CGI stadium seat from Dicks so I'll probably swap in a 2x10 and cut it to whatever size I need
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I'm not even super concerned with the tub I can always wallow out some holes and squeeze washers on both sides of it to make the seat parts all fit.
I want to see some other people's tents on these though, I just can't imagine that mine would be that much longer. Someone has to have the poles on that they can throw the tent over top.
I also set my tent up in wind break position while I was talking to him because he said that's when the folding braces are known to fail so when I get home tonight I'll check that out.
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I feel bad for those who had some major issues with the shelter and hope they get fixed.
While I'm not completely done assembling mine yet, I'm at the very end and wanted to add a positive post saying I have not ran into any big issues or missing parts. A few of the assembly steps have been a PIA but everything is coming together and I just have to attach the dog leg, folding bracket and then the tent. Once I get everything complete I'll post more about the process and any tips I can think of. Knock on wood, Hoping I didn't just jinx myself and there is an issue with one of the last steps. ;)
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I feel bad for those who had some major issues with the shelter and hope they get fixed.
While I'm not completely done assembling mine yet, I'm at the very end and wanted to add a positive post saying I have not ran into any big issues or missing parts. A few of the assembly steps have been a PIA but everything is coming together and I just have to attach the dog leg, folding bracket and then the tent. Once I get everything complete I'll post more about the process and any tips I can think of. Knock on wood, Hoping I didn't just jinx myself and there is an issue with one of the last steps. ;)
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Cool, looks good! Interested to find out if your tent fits properly or not.
I spoke to the warranty dept yesterday evening, and they asked me to send them some pictures which I did, but haven't heard back from them yet. We'll see what they can do for me, but I think I'm going to need an entire new product.
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When i spoke to them yesterday they didnt ask for pics but seemed to know my situation well, maybe they saw them on here?
Update on the folding braces. I locked them in while talking to him yesterday and let it set up in the Windbreak position overnight when I looked at it this morning the left side one was bowed in towards the center of the tub. I didn't have my phone with me to grab a pic. I put a flat hand against it and tried pushing it back to straighten it out and it instantly took an S curve bend. This is an issue they had talked to me about already they have a fix in the works, it is about a week out.
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Update on the folding braces. I locked them in while talking to him yesterday and let it set up in the Windbreak position overnight when I looked at it this morning the left side one was bowed in towards the center of the tub. I didn't have my phone with me to grab a pic. I put a flat hand against it and tried pushing it back to straighten it out and it instantly took an S curve bend. This is an issue they had talked to me about already they have a fix in the works, it is about a week out.
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That's not good! Suppose I'll have to give them a call so I can get the replacement ones.
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Just got off the phone the Shappell product manager. He said he is going to send me a brand new tub on Tuesday. Apparently he is flying out to the production site for the tubs in Missouri, to do another round of Quality Control. My tub was not drilled properly, and they want to make sure it's right before they send it out. Pretty happy about that. They are going to install a set of Hyfax on it as well and I can keep the old sled as well. Pretty pleased with this, and hopefully they get all of these issues ironed out going forward, so no one else has problems.
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Just got off the phone the Shappell product manager. He said he is going to send me a brand new tub on Tuesday. Apparently he is flying out to the production site for the tubs in Missouri, to do another round of Quality Control. My tub was not drilled properly, and they want to make sure it's right before they send it out. Pretty happy about that. They are going to install a set of Hyfax on it as well and I can keep the old sled as well. Pretty pleased with this, and hopefully they get all of these issues ironed out going forward, so no one else has problems.
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Glad they are making good on these problems. Maybe they were reading, here, and it helped. :thumbsup:
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Well got it all put together and apparently my tent is a little to small ??? I velcroed all the loops to the poles and a few areas of the tent got awfully tight. The fabric hardly reached the lip of the tub where you would secure it. At first thought maybe I just need to pull it down more but when I went to fold the shelter back into the wind block position it would only go 3/4 of the way back and then the tent got super tight and felt like the velcro would rip if it went any further.
I guess I'm not too worried based on everyone else's comments on talking to customer service, I'll be calling them tomorrow. Sitting in the tent got me excited for the ice season and to use the flip over!
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Dog leg for anyone curious:
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Quick update, pretty impressed so far. I missed a call from Wandy today (Eagleclaw/Shappell contact, will call him back) but he left me a short voicemail asking me to look inside of the seat rails for my other seat riser. Sure enough my other one was stuck inside of there, a good crack to the ground and it was out. He said if I found it to try and set everything up. I installed the risers, nuts on loosely so I could shift things around, but I can not get the rails to line up with them. I'm including pics to show how far they are off, again all nuts and bolts are loose and this is me trying with some pressure to try and align it. Seems like me and laer0302 are dealing with tubs that have the same issues with the incorrectly drilled holes. I did also just notice the bolt from the one frame bracket to the seat riser is short. All the powder coat damage was on the seat rail when pulled out of the bag in a box from shipping.
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Here is how much the hole from the seat rail is off from the riser.
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This post isn't meant to bash them I'm actually impressed with how they've kept in contact with us and how they want to make this right. They seem to know about the issues I just figured having my pictures on here since we're told their watching this thread would give them a visual of the problems I have encountered. I hope they can figure out the issues, I'd love to see this live up to the hype it came in with.
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Well got it all put together and apparently my tent is a little to small ??? I velcroed all the loops to the poles and a few areas of the tent got awfully tight. The fabric hardly reached the lip of the tub where you would secure it. At first thought maybe I just need to pull it down more but when I went to fold the shelter back into the wind block position it would only go 3/4 of the way back and then the tent got super tight and felt like the velcro would rip if it went any further.
I guess I'm not too worried based on everyone else's comments on talking to customer service, I'll be calling them tomorrow. Sitting in the tent got me excited for the ice season and to use the flip over!
Sounds like me and you need to swap tents HAHA.
I did have to open up the side velcro pretty loose, its positioned right on top of the bolts that connect the tubes together and seemed to get stuck on them when opened or stowed. How was the front of your tent? Did it hang excessively?
I sat in the silver one a few times I was very impressed on how quick the insulated fabric made it to hot in there. I still cant wait for hard water.
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Any word on if Eagle Claw is pulling these bad units off shelves?
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Sounds like me and you need to swap tents HAHA.
I did have to open up the side velcro pretty loose, its positioned right on top of the bolts that connect the tubes together and seemed to get stuck on them when opened or stowed. How was the front of your tent? Did it hang excessively?
I sat in the silver one a few times I was very impressed on how quick the insulated fabric made it to hot in there. I still cant wait for hard water.
haha sounds like we got both extremes of the tent sizing.
I wouldn't say it was excessive, it was loose but that is expected if it isn't tightened down around the lip of the tub. I had the door open and was surprised how much it was heating up just in the few minutes I was in there.
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Any word on if Eagle Claw is pulling these bad units off shelves?
Have to wonder how many people bought one and are having the same problems as those talked about here. I also wonder if there are any at all in all the stores that carry them that don't have these problems.
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Not the same unit, but I purchased a flip over shanty a couple years ago. When i was putting it together some of the holes would not line up. It was the hoop portion (or bow section if that's what you would call it) to the straight tube connections. I called manufacture they sent me all new tubes and hoops. When i went to install them the holes did not line up on the new ones either. After thinking it over I flipped the hoop section around and all holes lined up. Again not same unit as this but something to possible look at. The poles may work better on left then right etc...
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Not the same unit, but I purchased a flip over shanty a couple years ago. When i was putting it together some of the holes would not line up. It was the hoop portion (or bow section if that's what you would call it) to the straight tube connections. I called manufacture they sent me all new tubes and hoops. When i went to install them the holes did not line up on the new ones either. After thinking it over I flipped the hoop section around and all holes lined up. Again not same unit as this but something to possible look at. The poles may work better on left then right etc...
Flipped, flopped, switched, no luck
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Yeah, same here. I tried installing it in many different ways with no luck. Just got a tub that wasn't drilled properly.
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Laer0302, have you tried your tent yet to see how it fits?
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No I haven't gotten that far yet. After I had so many issues with the seat assembly I stopped assembling the rest of it. Plus I've been busy deer hunting the last week or so as well and haven't had time.
Probably work on it some more next week. Will let you know how it works out.
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Ok I'll update my situation. I took Peccavi18's advice and checked the seat rail, sure enough the other riser was stuck in one of them. So I figured I would try getting the framework together to see if I got one of the bad tubs. I'm assuming I did because I left everything a little loose (finger tight) to see if I could manipulate it a little, as soon as I tightened the framework down for the seat the tub bowed outward slightly, the slide rails were at a slight angle pointing in towards the center of the sled, so I loosened everything back up.
So now here are my questions....
1. Can anyone with a bad tub confirm what I saw with the tub bowing etc.?
2. Is there someone specific I can ask for with customer service that is aware of this particular situation?
3. Should I ask about the faulty bracket for the wind stop position as well? I'm assuming I got bad ones
Thanks in advance boys! :tipup:
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So all these shappell/eagle claw shelters on the market and in stores are all faulty?eagle claw needs to get them all back and start over.i dont like that they knew brackets and other stuff was faulty and put them out...making it right yeah but why sell them like that.not cool at all.
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So all these shappell/eagle claw shelters on the market and in stores are all faulty?eagle claw needs to get them all back and start over.i dont like that they knew brackets and other stuff was faulty and put them out...making it right yeah but why sell them like that.not cool at all.
I agree with you, I guess quality control is way off....or we are some of the lucky ones that just got the faulty shelters. I don't know how their company operates with assembling shelters randomly to make sure everything is ok, but it sounds like they are on top of fixing the situation and making things right with customers which is pretty hard to find these days, most times you can't even get a response. All I know is I'm glad I've been on this site for so long and started watching this thread when I ordered mine, if I didn't I'd be totally lost
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Just got off the phone with customer service, they are sending a new sled and told me to keep the one I have. I forgot to ask about the hinges for the windbreak position, but I guess I won’t really know about that or the tent until I put it together. All in all I’m happy for now, I know that they will take care of it :tipup:
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Talked to Shappell this afternoon the product manager is flying to Missouri tomorrow to the factory where they drill the sleds. He is doing some quality control testing to get the jigs aligned so the holes are where they need to be. Fun fact learned today all holes are hand drilled off an aluminum jig. Anyways the new sleds will be shipping out shortly to those of us that need them.
The new folding braces are starting production, he said they will be shipping out right around Thanksgiving.
The new tent prototype is finished it's flying over now and as soon as he gets back from Missouri to run some quality control tests and ok it, they'll start production. It sounds like around Thanksgiving will be the ship date on the new tents.
He made it a point to apologize and wants to make this right. I appreciate that, and hope it works out for all of us. I will keep updating the progess as the fixes show up.
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Talked to Shappell this afternoon the product manager is flying to Missouri tomorrow to the factory where they drill the sleds. He is doing some quality control testing to get the jigs aligned so the holes are where they need to be. Fun fact learned today all holes are hand drilled off an aluminum jig. Anyways the new sleds will be shipping out shortly to those of us that need them.
The new folding braces are starting production, he said they will be shipping out right around Thanksgiving.
The new tent prototype is finished it's flying over now and as soon as he gets back from Missouri to run some quality control tests and ok it, they'll start production. It sounds like around Thanksgiving will be the ship date on the new tents.
He made it a point to apologize and wants to make this right. I appreciate that, and hope it works out for all of us. I will keep updating the progess as the fixes show up.
Did they say they are going to just send it the replacement braces/tents to people who have already ordered or will we have to contact them again?
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Did they say they are going to just send it the replacement braces/tents to people who have already ordered or will we have to contact them again?
That I'm not sure of, didn't think to ask. He knows I need all 3 of those parts once the fixes come through. Hoping the tent gets figured out quickly, I'm getting excited to get it, mod it, and be out on the ice again.
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That I'm not sure of, didn't think to ask. He knows I need all 3 of those parts once the fixes come through. Hoping the tent gets figured out quickly, I'm getting excited to get it, mod it, and be out on the ice again.
Okay, I guess I'll just reach out to them again if needed. I'm in the same boat, super excited to get this assembled, modded, and on the ice which is right around the corner here in MN.
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Talked to Shappell this afternoon the product manager is flying to Missouri tomorrow to the factory where they drill the sleds. He is doing some quality control testing to get the jigs aligned so the holes are where they need to be. Fun fact learned today all holes are hand drilled off an aluminum jig. Anyways the new sleds will be shipping out shortly to those of us that need them.
The new folding braces are starting production, he said they will be shipping out right around Thanksgiving.
The new tent prototype is finished it's flying over now and as soon as he gets back from Missouri to run some quality control tests and ok it, they'll start production. It sounds like around Thanksgiving will be the ship date on the new tents.
He made it a point to apologize and wants to make this right. I appreciate that, and hope it works out for all of us. I will keep updating the progess as the fixes show up.
Who have you been talking to? I talked with a Gary? Yesterday about my tent being small and he said he was going to get the office in Missouri to send me new today.. I thought it wasn't going to be January until the new design tents were ready but reading this it sounds like Thanksgiving. I'd be better off having them wait and just send me the new design.. worried whatever they send me today might be large.
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Did they say they are going to just send it the replacement braces/tents to people who have already ordered or will we have to contact them again?
I'll bet you never hear a word from them, unless you make contact. When was the last time you ever had a producer/vendor contact you about a problem they had,unless it was something like a recall and you registered the product? (like an automobile).
I think they are being "stand up" taking care of these issues. Great news from you guys that have had problems.
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Well, I was hoping since I've already been working with them to fix issues with my sled, and that they already have my address on file with an open warranty claim, that they would proactively send me replacement parts for the other known issues people are having. I get what your saying though. Will have to wait and see I guess.
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Who have you been talking to? I talked with a Gary? Yesterday about my tent being small and he said he was going to get the office in Missouri to send me new today.. I thought it wasn't going to be January until the new design tents were ready but reading this it sounds like Thanksgiving. I'd be better off having them wait and just send me the new design.. worried whatever they send me today might be large.
I have been talking to Wandee. He is the Senior Product Manager who seems to be in charge of all these issues. He is in Missouri today working on getting the sled holes in the correct locations. He said they are working on the tents now, never mentioned rain flaps or other upgrades, just consistency issues and quality control problems. He wasn't signing off on a new production run till he personally had it in his hands and checked it himself. Large retailers have contacted him about issues with the assembly of these, they build hundreds a year. So the few of us on here are just the tip of the iceberg with how many people are contacting them with problems.
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I recieved an email from Wandee shortly after midnight. They figured out the tub problem, and will be sending me a new tub and there will be new directions for assembly.
Excited they are figuring it all out and fixes are happening fast. The local waters are getting a skim of ice!
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Hmm, I haven't heard from him in awhile. Do you have contact info for him directly? You can PM it to me if you'd wish, I'd like to find out where mine is coming along, and see if I can get a tracking number.
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Hmm, I haven't heard from him in awhile. Do you have contact info for him directly? You can PM it to me if you'd wish, I'd like to find out where mine is coming along, and see if I can get a tracking number.
If you wouldn't mind passing it on to me also?
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Got an update from Wandee. They are working to get the tubs with the correctly placed holes and the new instructions sent out today already
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Just got my new sled this morning, and to my untrained eye, the drill holes don't look that much different. The rear hole for the seat rail might have been moved slightly, but it's hard to tell. The big difference I've seen so far is in the new set of instructions they sent. When installing the seat riser, they no longer want you to use the "M" spacer, and they specifically make note to hand tighten everything until the very end, then they have you tighten everything down.
One last thing I'll mention, they installed a new hyfax kit on the sled for me, which I was quite pleased with as that was a pain to install. But, they used different bolts then what the original hyfax kit that I bought used. These bolts stick up over the top of those grooves in the bottom of the sled. So much so that I am definitely going to have to grind the end of the bolt off or replace them.
Going to work on setting up everything later tonight or tomorrow, heading to the Blaine Hard Water expo today.
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Good news! I hope mine comes in soon. Did they send you any kind of shipping notice?
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They didn't send me anything, but I have an account with Fed Ex and they sent me an alert for everything coming to my address.
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I'm out of town for most of the weekend, excited to see if my new tub is there. I forgot to order a hyfax kit, I'll just have to do it later, I want to get this all together, the local small lakes are all glazed over.
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Well, mine is fully assembled. The new instructions were on point. My tent seems to setup up fine. The little flaps that velcro onto the tub under your feet seem to be a little long? Is that the issue that everyone else has been having? I'm not sure how big of a deal that is but it would be nice if that lined up better. The folding brace definitely seems kinda flimsy, I'll probably contact them about having that replaced with the new design.
Other then that, this does seem a bit on the small side, a little smaller then I thought, but I'll have to get it on the ice and try it out before making my final judgments there.
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Laer0302, glad to hear yours all fits together, atleast some of the tents are good and not all will need replaced. I'm still waiting on my new tub to show up. I just sent Wandee an email to see it there were any definite dates on the new folding braces and to see how the new tents are coming along. Hoping all these fixes are ready by first ice.
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Well, mine is fully assembled. The new instructions were on point. My tent seems to setup up fine. The little flaps that velcro onto the tub under your feet seem to be a little long? Is that the issue that everyone else has been having? I'm not sure how big of a deal that is but it would be nice if that lined up better. The folding brace definitely seems kinda flimsy, I'll probably contact them about having that replaced with the new design.
Other then that, this does seem a bit on the small side, a little smaller then I thought, but I'll have to get it on the ice and try it out before making my final judgments there.
Did you have your tent on before the new tub came? I looked through but couldn’t find anything. Just wondering if the fit was better before vs after
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I got my new tub this afternoon, they installed hyfax runners on it for me, I appreciate that! Some of the hyfax bolts stick up pretty far, I may swap them out for alittle smoother inside the tub but its not essential or hurting anything.
I got everything all swapped over and installed to the new tub a few minutes ago. A few notes, If you have to go to the new tub from the old tub I had to remove the tent and disconnect all the hoops from the brackets. Also since they removed the spacer on the seat riser some of the bolts are now alittle long and stick out. I'll be taking a dremal to cut off the excess, I dont want gear or a coat sleeve catching on them. Everything fit though, the seat slides back and forth and the tent frame raises up and down.
The new folding braces should be here next week acording to an email I got today from Shappell. That will be two of the main issues fixed.
My big issue though which mistertwister just commented on is the tent. My tent still fits like garbage, no better no worse with the new sled, just super saggy and sloppy. In the email it said the new tents may not be ready for this season. He is working with the sewing facility to fix issues and hopes to tighten the tent up without lifting the front bar off the ice. They also realized they missed the storm flap and are making that adjustment. Not gonna lie, pretty disappointed in the lack enthusiasm for fixes on the tent this season. The silver tube fx100i version was perfectly tight and right down on the floor, so is my Fx200, this one it loose and wrinkled everywhere. I don't even care about the storm flaps, I just dont want to sit in a tent thats loose and flapping around me with delicate and expensive rods in it. I'm gonna take some pics and send them to Wandee tonight, then call him tomorrow and see what they are suggesting, I have a few ideas but I'll talk to them first.
Side note: I was at Field&Stream last weekend and walked around all the flipovers not one of them had loose tent issues like this. I consider clam gear to be pretty junky stuff but even their tents were tight.
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Wonder why they didn’t just stick with the silver bar model?thats the model i was going to buy in a heartbeat.a fx100 with a thermal tent is all it needed to be not some combled up mess that obviously was not ready to hit the market.what was so wrong with the first version of the fx100i?
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Wonder why they didn’t just stick with the silver bar model?thats the model i was going to buy in a heartbeat.a fx100 with a thermal tent is all it needed to be not some combled up mess that obviously was not ready to hit the market.what was so wrong with the first version of the fx100i?
I asked this question, nothing was really wrong with the silver bar version but the emt conduit is thin in general. So if a tent got caught in the wind or gear dropped on them and they bent, shipping a single piece bar was expensive and a pain. They didn't say this but I also think they were trying to expand the fish-able area and head room that's why they changed the tent to be bigger but with sag it's actually smaller. They also wanted to try and add new upgrades like the dog leg down to the ice and the velcro to hold the side portions of the tent on.
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Did you have your tent on before the new tub came? I looked through but couldn’t find anything. Just wondering if the fit was better before vs after
No, I never got it assembled to the point where I could install the tent, figured I'd just wait for the new sled.
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I asked this question, nothing was really wrong with the silver bar version but the emt conduit is thin in general. So if a tent got caught in the wind or gear dropped on them and they bent, shipping a single piece bar was expensive and a pain. They didn't say this but I also think they were trying to expand the fish-able area and head room that's why they changed the tent to be bigger but with sag it's actually smaller. They also wanted to try and add new upgrades like the dog leg down to the ice and the velcro to hold the side portions of the tent on.
Hey Peccavi18, did you get my PM's I sent you last night? Should have been 3 total. I think my PM's aren't sending for some reason.
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Hey Peccavi18, did you get my PM's I sent you last night? Should have been 3 total. I think my PM's aren't sending for some reason.
Yeah and I responded.
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I just spent some time on the phone with Wandee talking about this tent and the issues its having. First, the fx100i is the only tent having these issues they updated all of their models to the black tube and none of the other ones are having any of these issues. I did ask and they are still selling the ones that shipped to stores already, they are al over and would be a pain to track down so they're not going to pull them back. Their warranty dept is ready to handle all issues but the tent so far and they did cease shipping the FX100I to retailers until they get the tent issue fixed. The new tubs are in, folding braces are being shipped next week, they are going to be alittle longer and thicker like the original fx100 version. The warranty dept is currently working on snap in wind braces for between the ground bar and the first hoop. The wind braces are an interim fix until they can get the tent issues worked out, but they should stop the sag and flapping of the front. They will be ready to ship in a week or two. The tents are all hand-sewn so depending on how tight the person held it or how they felt that day all the tents fit a little differently. Also some of the placements of the velcro on the sides for the tubes are not correctly located. These are the QC issues they are working on first. The rain flaps won't be on any of the tents until next year. The new prototypes will be back to them shortly but they want to test them in house and send them out with prostaff before they send them out to any of us only to have more issues.
I'm going to stick with it, I have time on my Sportsman's Guide satisfaction guarantee return so I want to see if these wind bars and braces can fix the issues.
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I just spent some time on the phone with Wandee talking about this tent and the issues its having. First, the fx100i is the only tent having these issues they updated all of their models to the black tube and none of the other ones are having any of these issues. I did ask and they are still selling the ones that shipped to stores already, they are al over and would be a pain to track down so they're not going to pull them back. Their warranty dept is ready to handle all issues but the tent so far and they did cease shipping the FX100I to retailers until they get the tent issue fixed. The new tubs are in, folding braces are being shipped next week, they are going to be alittle longer and thicker like the original fx100 version. The warranty dept is currently working on snap in wind braces for between the ground bar and the first hoop. The wind braces are an interim fix until they can get the tent issues worked out, but they should stop the sag and flapping of the front. They will be ready to ship in a week or two. The tents are all hand-sewn so depending on how tight the person held it or how they felt that day all the tents fit a little differently. Also some of the placements of the velcro on the sides for the tubes are not correctly located. These are the QC issues they are working on first. The rain flaps won't be on any of the tents until next year. The new prototypes will be back to them shortly but they want to test them in house and send them out with prostaff before they send them out to any of us only to have more issues.
I'm going to stick with it, I have time on my Sportsman's Guide satisfaction guarantee return so I want to see if these wind bars and braces can fix the issues.
I just got off the phone with him as well, and described my issues. I've decided to return this shelter to Sportsman's Guide and go a different route. If I could have seen one setup and on display somewhere before I bought, I probably wouldn't have purchased one anyway, it's a little small for my liking, though I could have made do if everything went together smoothly. I told him I might be interested in purchasing one again next year as a light weight early season option once all the kinks are worked out, and they have the new tent with the rain guards, etc.
It's definitely a very lightweight shelter, and would definitely work as a early/late season shelter or when you have to hand pull the shelter.
Lastly, I do wanna say that Wandee and the rest of the customer service support staff there have been very helpful, and were very easy to work with, and were prepared to send me additional parts to get this to work had I decided to keep this shelter.
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I just got my new sled this afternoon. I’ll probably try to get the framework installed today and finish in the morning, unless I get ambitious. I’ll report back :tipup:
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Ok....through a lot of trial and error (tightening some stuff loosening others etc.) I got the framework put together, I consider myself pretty mechanically inclined, this was a little trying. It seemed to me even after getting a new tub that things weren’t quite right. The frame didn’t seem to want to stack and balance. (Although after adding the tent i didn’t notice it) Today I finally got the tent fabric on. It seems to fit ok, although I already know the windbreak brackets will not hold, they already bowed on me while I was testing it. The tent is perfect in some spots, but I’ve got a lot of sag on the front side of the tent (door) and it seems when I fold it up or put it down there is a lot of tension on some of the Velcro straps (to the point where I’m unsure how long they will last before they tear the seam). The Velcro also seems to line up right on the screws so I just wonder how long before that wears through with how tight it is. Can anyone confirm, or have you seen the same type of stuff I described?
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Ok....through a lot of trial and error (tightening some stuff loosening others etc.) I got the framework put together, I consider myself pretty mechanically inclined, this was a little trying. It seemed to me even after getting a new tub that things weren’t quite right. The frame didn’t seem to want to stack and balance. (Although after adding the tent i didn’t notice it) Today I finally got the tent fabric on. It seems to fit ok, although I already know the windbreak brackets will not hold, they already bowed on me while I was testing it. The tent is perfect in some spots, but I’ve got a lot of sag on the front side of the tent (door) and it seems when I fold it up or put it down there is a lot of tension on some of the Velcro straps (to the point where I’m unsure how long they will last before they tear the seam). The Velcro also seems to line up right on the screws so I just wonder how long before that wears through with how tight it is. Can anyone confirm, or have you seen the same type of stuff I described?
Same exact issues I had. Some tim places the tent lines up fine. In others it was way off. Same thing with the Velcro as well. Some of them were positioned right over the screws.
I'm glad I made the decision to return mine. Ordered the Clam Legend XL from Sportsman's Guide on a double discount day.
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Yeah even with the new tub with the moved holes mine was still alittle hard to put together, seemed solid once everything was tightened though. Velcro loops are right on the side screws, it seems like an odd place to have it so I asked Wandee. He said that the side velcro is not being sewn in the right place, and thats one of the QC issues they are working on.
Not that this has to do so much with the Fx100I but I am still waiting for my refund from Sportmans Guide from the silver tube version that came not sewn right. They got the other one back, they sent me conformation of return on the 8th. It was authorized but I still haven't seen the refund to my card yet. I've called and everytime they have to talk to a manager and no one has gotten me a direct answer on when I'll see my money. Anyone have a return problem with SG?
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Yeah I’m debating now what I’m going to do. I just have a gut feeling that I’m not going to be happy with it although i really wanted to like it. I think more than anything I feel like I will have issues down the road. Now the question is what to get to replace it. I’m thinking the frabill aegis or the recruit. I’m wondering if I get the recruit and don’t use the boat seat how much it will weigh. Looks like the boat seat is right around 14 lbs so the recruit without the seat should be about 48lbs.....I’m torn :-\
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was really wanting one of these, think i with go with the fx100. any issues with them? have they changed production site?
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Yeah even with the new tub with the moved holes mine was still alittle hard to put together, seemed solid once everything was tightened though. Velcro loops are right on the side screws, it seems like an odd place to have it so I asked Wandee. He said that the side velcro is not being sewn in the right place, and thats one of the QC issues they are working on.
Not that this has to do so much with the Fx100I but I am still waiting for my refund from Sportmans Guide from the silver tube version that came not sewn right. They got the other one back, they sent me conformation of return on the 8th. It was authorized but I still haven't seen the refund to my card yet. I've called and everytime they have to talk to a manager and no one has gotten me a direct answer on when I'll see my money. Anyone have a return problem with SG?
What is your thoughts on the problems, are you sticking with it? I’ve only spoken to customer service once. I’m just wondering if I should get ahold of wandee as well. My thought is almost to get rid of this and maybe just get the non-insulated version.
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I'm sure im late to this party, but i got to ask.. why is everyone so fixated on this shack? I could probably name you 3 brands of shacks similar to this that have been proven in the field over and over for practically the same price..
everything about this shack that I see just looks cheap.. nothing against shappell personally.. get your money back and give it to eskimo or otter..
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I'm sure im late to this party, but i got to ask.. why is everyone so fixated on this shack? I could probably name you 3 brands of shacks similar to this that have been proven in the field over and over for practically the same price..
everything about this shack that I see just looks cheap.. nothing against shappell personally.. get your money back and give it to eskimo or otter..
And those other shacks weigh 15-20# more and cost $100+ more. This is a light weight no frills shack at a great price. The original FX100 is to quote you, "proven in the field over and over".
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I'm sure im late to this party, but i got to ask.. why is everyone so fixated on this shack? I could probably name you 3 brands of shacks similar to this that have been proven in the field over and over for practically the same price..
everything about this shack that I see just looks cheap.. nothing against shappell personally.. get your money back and give it to eskimo or otter..
It's all about the $$$$$. There are other insulated shacks in the same weight class. I have owned 3 different shappel shelters. They are good and servicable but IMO lack in the quality areana. You get what you pay for, in more ways than one. Clam and Frabil both offer lightweight, quickflip shelters. It's the quick flip feature that is the most desired by some of us. I hate the setup of expandable framework.
I really hope Shappel gets this shelter and it's issues fixed. Not good for the company, for sure.
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I'm sure im late to this party, but i got to ask.. why is everyone so fixated on this shack?
The original version of this shelter has every other similar shelter beat for the most part.. It has the heaviest duty material, but is still the lightest, unless you count the Blazer, you'll need to add something to sit on for the Blazer. For those that have used the FX-100, the FX-100I was a pretty big deal. If this happened 2 years ago, there would be a bunch of perfect FX-100I already on the ice.
Shappell and Eagle Claw are obviously different..
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The original version of this shelter has every other similar shelter beat for the most part.. It has the heaviest duty material, but is still the lightest, unless you count the Blazer, you'll need to add something to sit on for the Blazer. For those that have used the FX-100, the FX-100I was a pretty big deal. If this happened 2 years ago, there would be a bunch of perfect FX-100I already on the ice.
Shappell and Eagle Claw are obviously different..
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cool, makes sense to me. being light is nice in most circumstances.
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That’s pretty much my stance with it is that it is lightweight and thermal. I had a rover 1.0 for 10 years and loved it but just wanted to update and have a little more space. I hate to give up on this and get the fx100 knowing that they will fix the issues. I might just have to deal with it until they figure it out....
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Own a FX 100, also wanted to upgrade to a FX100i thermal, disappointed in Eagle Claw's performance in product development. Shappell built it's brand following without using paid product endorsements. Interested in what insulated one man shelters, cheap and get what you pay for use ?
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Own a FX 100, also wanted to upgrade to a FX100i thermal, disappointed in Eagle Claw's performance in product development. Shappell built it's brand following without using paid product endorsements. Interested in what insulated one man shelters the cheap, and get what you pay for use ?
i agree..i was hoping that shappell/eagle claw would have thermal tents for sale that fit on the fx100 I already have but would have bought a fx100i in a heartbeat if it was just like my shappell fx100,same frame,sled but with the thermal tent.eagle claw dropped the ball on the fx100i imo.especially bringing it to market with knowledge of qc problems,defects and cheap brackets.
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Mistertwister did you get my pm? My phone was dying hope I sent it before it died.
I'm gonna stick with the Fx100i for awhile at least. I bought it at Sportsman's Guide and have talked to them about the issues, so its noted on my account, gonna wait out their 90 day satisfaction guarantee. I can tell Wandee and Eagleclaw/Shappell want to get this right. They have been in contact with me the whole way through, telling me about fixes and asking about issues and measurements just to make sure they have it right. I believe the fixed prototype tents are already over here, they were going to test in house before sending out with pro staff to make sure there weren't any other issues. The new folding braces will be shipping this week, the wind bars should also be pretty close if not ready to ship with the braces. I went to school for Industrial Design - Product Design so I understand some of the issues they're having. It sounds like they have a good handle on the issues, it is now just a race to get the fixes out without creating any more problems before the season ends.
Another reason I'm holding out is I have a couple other shelters already, and I'm usually a lightweight run and gun guy who doesn't even use a shelter. The Fx100i caught my attention because of the very lightweight and instant setup. I dont want stakes, I dont want sliding pieces or pins, I want to pop a hole or two sit down, flip the top to be fishing. A few conveniences like light, gear transport, and stopping the wind or rain was all I was looking for. My silver tube version was modded for speed of setup and to keep the weight down and this one will hopefully be as well.
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I didn’t get your pm but i just sent you one :tipup:
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Emailed Wandee today, the folding braces are in but they are waiting for a replacement bolt that should be in early next week. Wind bars are made by the warrenty dept in the US and ready. Contact them if you need both they can bundle ship the windbraces with the folding brace next week. Warranty number is 720-941-8718 or 8719. Email is [email protected].
Tent prototype from last week still needed some work, Wandee had some changes implemented. The newest rendions should be to him next week.
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The wind bars are for the sides right? I’m pretty sure that’s what he told me last time I spoke with him. He also seemed to think that the new folding braces should help tighten up the fabric
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I was told the new folding braces are alittle longer when opened compared to the current ones. Not sure how much longer but any little bit should help remove some of the front slack.
I didn't think to ask where the wind bars will be located. I would assume in the corners so they don't block the door or slide down the angle of the sides but I guess we'll see next week.
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Where do you put your cooler?
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Man, I like Shappell products and I want to order a FX100I but with all the problems everyone is having I have second thoughts. Does anyone know if Shappell recalled all the bad shacks? As anyone ordered a FX100I from Sportsman's Guide and received a good shack?
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When Sportsman's Guide first advertised this year - I picked up the original Fx100I with the silver conduit tubing. Ive been out 6 times or so and love it. It does everything a one man shack should do. The shack is pleasant lightweight to pull by hand and load into the truck. Put together easy and no missing parts. It is too bad they made changes and people have negative experiences.
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Man, I like Shappell products and I want to order a FX100I but with all the problems everyone is having I have second thoughts. Does anyone know if Shappell recalled all the bad shacks? As anyone ordered a FX100I from Sportsman's Guide and received a good shack?
I think it’s been hit and miss for certain things although they haven’t shipped the new braces out yet so any shelter at this point will probably have the bad braces (I was told the new ones should help with some of the tent problems). I will say that their customer service has been outstanding throughout the process. I’m going to love this when the kinks are worked out.
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Fishwacker, good to hear. I also have the silver conduit model I picked up early this year. Made a few mods to it and cant wait for ice. I was hoping that there wouldn't be any issues, so it appears I dodged a bullet for now. Cant wait for ice.
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Man, I like Shappell products and I want to order a FX100I but with all the problems everyone is having I have second thoughts. Does anyone know if Shappell recalled all the bad shacks? As anyone ordered a FX100I from Sportsman's Guide and received a good shack?
They did not recall the shacks that were already at retailers but they are not shipping anymore to retailers until they get the new fixes implemented.
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I'm also very excited for this shack, I had a silver tube fx100I and it was really nice except the part of the seam they missed sewing. If I knew how to sew I probably would have kept it. The black tube version it alittle taller and bigger in the front. I think that space will be awesome once they figure out how to get the tents sewn correctly.
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I ordered a Shappell FX100I today, (Dec.6th) from Sportsman's Guide. Keeping my fingers cross that I receive a good shack.
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I have to believe almost all the silver bar fx100i are sold already because they sold quick then all retailers were out of them for awhile,all of a sudden a second batch came in and they were a different version.thats the lemon shappell that i think everyone has in stock now.few guys are lucky to get the 1st version.im waiting till next year.
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I canceled my order for the Shappell FX100I from Sportsman Guide. I'm going to wait until spring to see if all the improvements are made before buying. For now I'll use my Shappell FX50 for early/late fishing and when I can drive on the ice with my truck I'll use my Tip Down Shanty.
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Went to the Fish307.com open house on Saturday and looked at the new FX100i. My initial impression, didn't care for the new frame work and it's plastic corners. Framework flexed when folding the shelter down, the locking braces for the wind break were already bent on the floor model. The insulated tent is nice and the extensions added to the skirt and tent will help seal out wind drafts, didn't care for the rear zippered access door. Prefer the framework on my two year old FX100, going to wait and see if Eagle Claw makes the insulated tent available.
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Went to the Fish307.com open house on Saturday and looked at the new FX100i. My initial impression, didn't care for the new frame work and it's plastic corners. Framework flexed when folding the shelter down, the locking braces for the wind break were already bent on the floor model. The insulated tent is nice and the extensions added to the skirt and tent will help seal out wind drafts, didn't care for the rear zippered access door. Prefer the framework on my two year old FX100, going to wait and see if Eagle Claw makes the insulated tent available.
im also waiting to see if they make thermal tents for the fx100. but doesnt sound like the new version thermal tent will even fit our fx100s.
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Have they fixed the (what I think are poorly designed) velcro sections that attach under your calves when sitting down? Even with them secured there was still a large wind gap in my Fx-100 and 200 (both sold). The seams were not strong enough to hold more than a couple of times of flipping it back before undoing them or a sudden burst of wind flipping it back. I had to reinforce mine with gorilla tape and got tired of having to pack the gaps with snow or restart my heater 10 times after the wind blew the pilot out. Tried to give them my business because I believe they are still made or assembled in the US but the Clam huts do not have that gap. I emailed Shappell a few times asking if they were coming out with a thermal or had plans to address the gap and never got a response.
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Have they fixed the (what I think are poorly designed) velcro sections that attach under your calves when sitting down? Even with them secured there was still a large wind gap in my Fx-100 and 200 (both sold). The seams were not strong enough to hold more than a couple of times of flipping it back before undoing them or a sudden burst of wind flipping it back. I had to reinforce mine with gorilla tape and got tired of having to pack the gaps with snow or restart my heater 10 times after the wind blew the pilot out. Tried to give them my business because I believe they are still made or assembled in the US but the Clam huts do not have that gap. I emailed Shappell a few times asking if they were coming out with a thermal or had plans to address the gap and never got a response.
The new fx100I tents have almost over done it with extra material covering those gaps. Lots to work with there now.
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Did anyone get the folding brackets or windbars last week? I'm hoping they come through with these soon. It was supposed to be the week of Thanksgiving originally for the folding braces...
I'm off Thursday night - Saturday afternoon this week. Not sure where but I'm gonna be on ice somewhere, and would love to take this along, wanna stay lightweight since I'll be out alone.
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I sent an email to wandee last Thursday I believe. He said the folding braces are due in Denver soon, and the wind braces are being produced now. I guess the folding braces should help shore up loose fabric on the sides, and the wind braces will further help with side tension as well as tighten up the fabric on the door.
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Got my windbars today. Braces/brackets are supposed to be in today or tomorrow for them to review and then send out. They didn't like the versions they got a week or two ago it sounded like.
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Got my windbars today. Braces/brackets are supposed to be in today or tomorrow for them to review and then send out. They didn't like the versions they got a week or two ago it sounded like.
Any chance you can post a picture of the windbars? I’m just curious how and where they are supposed to actually mount?
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Any chance you can post a picture of the windbars? I’m just curious how and where they are supposed to actually mount?
Not sure actually, didn't come with a diagram or anything.. just guessing in the front corner and then back middle or something? I wasn't going to pull it out and test them until i got the bracket. Maybe I'll do that sooner though.
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so you know, the fx150 and fx200 have a rear wind bar that doubles as a wind break mode instead of using the hinged brackets that the fx100 uses. the bar they are making for the fx100 could replace the brackets or it was to make the front ground bar to the next bar up become tight to stretch the tent that was cut a little long.
if it has c clips on each end it is meant to stretch the front tent material to help with wind flap and remove some slack.
the 150 and 200 have a hole drilled for the rear wind bar in the tub and they made a slip joint on the end of that bar so it stops in the hole. the other end has a c clip to catch the bar behind your head while seated.
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I was thinking he meant a picture of where they are supposed to go. I got two sets if poles, both with c clips.
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so you know, the fx150 and fx200 have a rear wind bar that doubles as a wind break mode instead of using the hinged brackets that the fx100 uses. the bar they are making for the fx100 could replace the brackets or it was to make the front ground bar to the next bar up become tight to stretch the tent that was cut a little long.
if it has c clips on each end it is meant to stretch the front tent material to help with wind flap and remove some slack.
the 150 and 200 have a hole drilled for the rear wind bar in the tub and they made a slip joint on the end of that bar so it stops in the hole. the other end has a c clip to catch the bar behind your head while seated.
From talking with Wandee the folding braces will be alittle longer to help stretch the front out. The wind braces will help keep the front corners from flopping around and coming into the fishing area, basically keep the slop of the tent at bay. The fx100i doesn't use or need a rear brace for the wind break position with the new braces.
Hopefully my stuff comes in tomorrow.
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The purpose of a wind bar is to keep the front from lifting but from the back,where almost all other wind poles go..the wind hits the back and pulls the front up.that bar keeps the whole shelter frame structure solid.wth is all those other bars?so everytime you want to flip it up you must remove those first??just a bandaid to keep the extra material from blowing into the fishing area?still not impressed..not going to be a quick flip like the fx100.plus carry a bunch of bars around..
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The purpose of a wind bar is to keep the front from lifting but from the back,where almost all other wind poles go..the wind hits the back and pulls the front up.that bar keeps the whole shelter frame structure solid.wth is all those other bars.so everytime you want to flip it up you must remove those first??just a bandaid to keep the extra material from blowing into the fishing area?still not impressed..not going to be a quick flip like the fx100.plus carry a bunch of bars around..
Yup - defeats the purpose of a "quickflip" design. OK if it's that windy that you need the support and strength, but as a regular setupto the shelter - not impressed.
Can't understand why they just didn't leave the frame alone and offer an insulated fabric version and a replacement insulated tent for those that have the FX100 and want to upgrade it. If they wanted a multipart frame for shipping purposes, they could have made that happen without the other changes.
I think it's all about improving profit margins.
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Yup - defeats the purpose of a "quickflip" design. OK if it's that windy that you need the support and strength, but as a regular setupto the shelter - not impressed.
Can't understand why they just didn't leave the frame alone and offer an insulated fabric version and a replacement insulated tent for those that have the FX100 and want to upgrade it. If they wanted a multipart frame for shipping purposes, they could have made that happen without the other changes.
I think it's all about improving profit margins.
right.i think a lot of guys,me being one would be fine with the fx100 size tent just thermal that fits fx100 that i have already or even buy the first version/silver bar fx100i that 3300 has and gave a sneak peak last year.thats the shelter I was going to get but heard of weight difference,added bunch of bars,flappy oversized tent,different frame and windbreak brackets that bend.i don't think eagle claw would go back to make the first version again but I know they would sell alot right now if they did.even the thermal tent that fits the fx100 frame.
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I use a Clam #1074 rear adjustable spreader pole on my FX 100.
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I ordered one from Sportsman Guide and requested that it not have any quality issues or I would wait. Well it went back to them as it was defective. Didn't care for the extra wide mouth of tent either. I don't think they got the weight measured correctly either because that thing was heavy. Went with the Stealth Blazer instead. Sportsman Guide wouldn't let me use new member discount I used to get the FX100i to buy the Stealth so I ordered one from Cabelas.
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I ordered one from Sportsman Guide and requested that it not have any quality issues or I would wait. Well it went back to them as it was defective. Didn't care for the extra wide mouth of tent either. I don't think they got the weight measured correctly either because that thing was heavy. Went with the Stealth Blazer instead. Sportsman Guide wouldn't let me use new member discount I used to get the FX100i to buy the Stealth so I ordered one from Cabelas.
I have the stealth blazer, insulated; I like it. Well designed and well made.
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TheCrappieFisherman did you get a chance to try out those windbars yet? Wondering if they tightened anything up or are just holding the slack out of the way alittle.
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I have the stealth blazer, insulated; I like it. Well designed and well made.
After reading all the problems with the Shappell FX100 Insulated ice shack, I don't trust Shappell to get this right. Now they want to add a wind bar to take the sags out of the tent. Plus all the other problems with this shack. I was reading how the FX100 is a great shack, why make all the changes to the FX100 Insulated? Just keep the same frame and add the insulated tent. But no, Shappell wants to make more profit and now the customer has to deal with all the problems. I hope Shappell learned something with all this, but you know money comes first.
I have looked at the Clam Stealth Blazer insulated shack, they are a nice shack. And I'm glad Fishforpike likes his Stealth. Soon as they go on sale, I'm buying one.
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its eagle claw that took over shappell that's the problem.the old shappel brand was solid.the eagleclaw shappell not so much,the fx100 frame is strong enough for a thermal tent thrown on and be done.thats the fx100i shelter I want..
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I'm so glad I got one of the silver bar models. I've only played with mine in the basement, but I can't find anything about it I would change, other than maybe adding some storage via a cargo net and some hangers.
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its eagle claw that took over shappell that's the problem.the old shappel brand was solid.
Exactly correct...
Shappell= Michigan made, Nothing could compare..
Shappell Eagle Claw= China made, Nothing could be worse!
I'm not liking this at all, all the real Shappell stuff will probably not have replacement tents either..
They really screwed the pooch on this one.
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Has anyone recieved any of the fix parts yet, if so do they actually help the tent issues?
I hadn't heard or seen anything about my parts yet over the last 2 ish weeks but it was the holiday season so I wasn't really concerned. Finally sent over an email only to get a response that they'll send my info to the warranty dept to get my stuff sent. **censored**?!?! I've been talking to them about issues with this thing since it came out and only now their forwarding my info to get me the parts. I'm super annoyed, gonna call tomorrow. I have been told a ton of times that they would get me parts out, even overnight them as soon as they came in and instead I'm just now being added to the list. Not sure if this is my walk away point but I will say to anyone looking at this model wait till they have it fixed or go another route.
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You have patience thats for sure.i was wondering if anyone has finally got all the parts to put together the lemon fx100i yet.eagleclaw is running the shappell brand name/reputation thru the mud.jmo
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When I saw the fx100i thread last year I fell in love with what was shown. It was exactly what I was looking for, but after owning this pile of parts that I can't even use I'm not feeling the love anymore. I feel like I'm getting the run around and I'm not real happy about it.
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I feel sorry for all the guys that have to deal with Eagle Claw for the FX100i. For myself if I had to deal with this, I would call everyday and I mean everyday and keep them on the phone as long as possible every time you called until this problem is resolved.
What a BS company to deal with! How many sales have they lost because of this? I had a FX100I ordered from Sportsman Guide but cancelled the order because of all the problems. Good Luck, to all the guys that have to deal with this low life company. I do have a FX50 now and I like it and I also had a Shappell Bay Runner for 2 years but sold it and built a Tip Down Shanty. Shappell was good company, to bad Eagle Claw is running it in the ground.
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Likewise, I wouldnt put up with it. I was hoping to get a 200i but theres no way I would go down that road
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Greetings,
I'm fallguy. Long time reader of the Iceshanty now at last registered.
I also was very interested in the FX100i and after reading this thread I also was very concerned about QC at Eagle Claw. However after a couple phone calls I found the people at Eagle Claw very concerned about the problems with the FX100i. Instead of waiting for the bugs to be worker out, I elected to go with the FX200i and I'm very happy with this shelter. Very good quality though out.
Hope things work out for all.
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welcome and thanks for joining us fallguy!
your fx200i is the old silver bar version right? i was told they haven't run out of stock on those and won't be changing them until they do.
anyone who was told they would fix their issues needs to push them to make sure they do just that. i believe they said they would have a new production line out by the 4th of this month. so you should be able to get the right tent to fit their new frame with the wind flap on front and back. that's what i would be pushing for and the half open hinges.
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Thanks for the welcome 3300 and all your insight on the fx100i and fx200i.
Yes.. my fx200i is the old conduit frame which seems well engineered. Just strong and simple. The tub is deep and rugged and fabric is very good quality.
Wear bars and stainless steel fasteners are also quality items as is the cover.
All in all.. if it isn't broken don't fix it.. comes to mind.
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welcome and thanks for joining us fallguy!
your fx200i is the old silver bar version right? i was told they haven't run out of stock on those and won't be changing them until they do.
anyone who was told they would fix their issues needs to push them to make sure they do just that. i believe they said they would have a new production line out by the 4th of this month. so you should be able to get the right tent to fit their new frame with the wind flap on front and back. that's what i would be pushing for and the half open hinges.
3300 in saying the 4th of this month you mean Jan 4th as in yesterday? News to me, I hope its true.
I've been told a few times they had new tent "prototypes" coming in and that they would even be willing to send me one of those once they had a some that fit correctly. I'm not sure I believe it happening this season though. I'm still waiting on folding braces I was originally told would be out around Thanksgiving and then about every week since. I don't want to have to resort to leaving negative reviews online. I have the e-mails saying they have the parts, how come we haven't recieved them yet?
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yep, call them. don't wait for them to call you ever.
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Just got off the phone with customer service apparently my folding braces have shipped. I asked about the wind bars he said they were told they received them but don't know where they are, then he said they may just have to go to the machine shop tomorrow and whip some up for me and send them out. When I asked about the new tent he said Wandee will be out at the assembly plant in Missouri at the end of the month and they should know more about new tents or parts at that point. RIght now they haven't heard anything about a new run of the tents and he doesn't know anything about the prototypes.
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If I'm reading this correctly they are basically saying the tents are what they are and whoever buys them can deal with it after they get the "new" tub. I have the new tub and it didnt help the fit at all. I sent an email back I'm hoping they arent just giving up on this round of shelters but wouldn't know till they respond.
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LOL...Eagle Claw is so disorganized and incapable to handle this FX100i problem, it's almost funny. With the computer age using a bar code and they can't locate parts! How about a tracking number for the package from UPS or USPS! Please Eagle Claw, hire someone that knows what their doing, because it's very clear after dealing with all the problems with the FX100i for MONTHS the person in charge in incapable of doing his job. I'm feeling sorry for the guys that own the FX100i that have to deal with all the problems! Please Eagle Claw, remove the word Shappell from your business name and all of your products because you're embarrassing the previous owners.
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If I'm reading this correctly they are basically saying the tents are what they are and whoever buys them can deal with it after they get the "new" tub. I have the new tub and it didnt help the fit at all. I sent an email back I'm hoping they arent just giving up on this round of shelters but wouldn't know till they respond.
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Keep us posted on his response, I was going to email him today, but I’ll wait until I hear what’s he says to you. I’m going to be a little upset if they aren’t going to do anything with the tent fitment.
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Man, am I glad I decided to return mine when I did. It sucks you guys are still dealing with these issues this far into the ice season. Hopefully you have other shelter options, so you can at least still fish.
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Here's the response.
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Seems odd to me that on production runs of low balling say 2000 units that only some would be loose, seems like most or all that have gotten one here have problems. How they cant come up with a fix, OR open some boxes and test fit them over a frame till they find one that is tight and send it to those of us that have issues. Or maybe send a few to an upholstery shop or seamstress and have them sewn correctly for the "some tents" that have this issue. They are gonna have to eat the cost one way or another. They already admitted there is a big enough issue though that they had to "make" windbars even though they don't know where they are... even though they were made in house. Lol
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i think everyone that got the lemon black bar fx100i should send them back.let them know its a screw up a needs changes before putting a cobble up mess on the market.then take forever getting people parts that might work and doesn't sound like eagle claw even has that figured out.i doubt I will ever have another shappell shelter now that eagle claw is running it.shappell was my most liked brand in ice shelters...you guys waiting on parts are very patient. sounds like eagle claw are beating around the bush.unsure how to remedy the situation and tell you what you want to hear to simmer it down.jmo
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Has anybody else reviewed this on Sportsman's Guide? I start to write a review and then it pops up that I need a username and password to login to be able to review. I don't remember my info but I've honestly never wanted to review something more. I've got an hour car ride ahead of me today that I may just spend reviewing this on every website I can.
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Here's the number for SG's corporate office. 1-651-451-3030 that gets you to the receptionist then just asked for the ice fishing buyer I just left a voicemail and asked for a callback about the EagleClaw/Shappell fx100i. I'm sure they have other returns and are realizing this product isn't right. At this point I'll try to save others the hassle of dealing with this product. Hopefully they don't screw up the other tents changing them to be like this black bar version.
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I don’t like the direction this is heading, I was under the impression that the issues would be taken care of no questions asked. I bought mine from bass pro and am now out of the no hassle return time frame. Is the shanty functional? Yes, it will work. My main problem aside from the bad hinges is that the fishable space is cut down drastically from what it should be because of the tent sag, not even mentioning that some of the velcro attachments from the tent to the frame are so tight when flipping it over that they will rip eventually....this is going from a bad dream to a nightmare
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Why can't you guys adjust the tent fabric to make it snug? Seems like you are not going to get satisfaction from Eagle Claw.
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Why can't you guys adjust the tent fabric to make it snug? Seems like you are not going to get satisfaction from Eagle Claw.
As far as I can tell there is no way to adjust it to the point where it will make a difference. My rear and sides seem ok, other than the tight spots on the Velcro attachment. The zipper door on the front of mine sags in probably 5” if I was going to guess, there is nothing to change as far as attaching the tent to the frame there, there is just too much fabric. Supposedly the new hinges are going to help tighten it up but I’ve personally been waiting for about 6 weeks for the new ones
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As mistertwister said it's screwed. I can't come up with a good way to fix it short of cutting out the front seams and resewing it. Longer tubes wouldnt do it, a new bracket wouldn't help, pulling the whole fabric back more doesnt do it. It's just sewn incorrectly. Them saying the tub was the issue is absurd, there is no way the tub holes would adjust anything close to this much slop.
I'd call Basspro and tell them the issues you've had maybe even send them to this link, hopefully they will take it back to keep your patronage. And don't forget to review it to keep others from having the same issues.
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Back to reality with this issue.. been away for awhile with Christmas and a long vacation, which definitely lacked fishing but also gave me a chance to not think about my fx100i ha. I recieved the wind bars right before Christmas but for a number of reasons and then vacation haven't even tried them. I'll be pulling the shelter out tonight but regardless with peccavi's updates I don't really see a permanent fix coming and probably best to cut my losses before this drags on longer and attempt to return the shelter. Should have listened to the S/O and returned it when I first found issues.. But I also thought that was her trying to get me to own one less shelter.. ::) ;)
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Should have listened to the S/O and returned it when I first found issues.. But I also thought that was her trying to get me to own one less shelter.. ::) ;)
Lol, sound like my wife. My wife hates this shelter she's been telling me since I got it to return it. She wants it out of the den. I told her once its complete it'll head to camp. She's even offered more money to buy a shelter that works.
On that note what other single person shelters are light weight and have the larger fishable area?
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Lol, sound like my wife. My wife hates this shelter she's been telling me since I got it to return it. She wants it out of the den. I told her once its complete it'll head to camp. She's even offered more money to buy a shelter that works.
On that note what other single person shelters are light weight and have the larger fishable area?
Take the money and upgrade!! Haha
I spent a lot of time searching for a lightweight one man and this was the best I had found. Not sure where to look next either. Clam kenia pro had my interest but heard the sled pulls heavy. Otter makes a top notch one man but out of my price range. Eskimo wide one looks sweet but heavy. I'm at a stand still, guess I should just focus on trying to return it first..
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Take the money and upgrade!! Haha
I spent a lot of time searching for a lightweight one man and this was the best I had found. Not sure where to look next either. Clam kenia pro had my interest but heard the sled pulls heavy. Otter makes a top notch one man but out of my price range. Eskimo wide one looks sweet but heavy. I'm at a stand still, guess I should just focus on trying to return it first..
Same list I had originally too. Only other one was the Clam legend xl but I already have the Fx200 that isn't to far off from it. I just got Striker gear this year maybe I'll wait till next year use this money and sell my QF3i and hope Otter has a lightweight offering. I'm not a huge Clam fan, I feel alot of their stuff breaks quickly. ALTHOUGH CLAM STUFF DOES SHOW UP IN USABLE CONDITION.
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As far as I can tell there is no way to adjust it to the point where it will make a difference. My rear and sides seem ok, other than the tight spots on the Velcro attachment. The zipper door on the front of mine sags in probably 5” if I was going to guess, there is nothing to change as far as attaching the tent to the frame there, there is just too much fabric. Supposedly the new hinges are going to help tighten it up but I’ve personally been waiting for about 6 weeks for the new ones
what if the bars going to over the door were longer and you didn't attach the velcro? you might be able to make a conduit to fit it. it's cheap like 5$ for 10 feet.
easy way to know is take one off the bracket by the seat and remove the velcro and push on it while it's closed to see what it does in that corner. then try the other side. i think it should work although the door may not be usable until they release the updated tent.
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It tightens it up a hair by lifting it but at the same time it pulls on the sides and still doesnt fix it.
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Hi there,
I posted a couple days ago saying I decided to go with the fx200i. I've had several shelters and I have to say I really like the fx200i. Granted it's my first thermal and it HAS the original conduit hoops.
Have you guys tried putting a weight on the front hoop holding it to the floor, attach the velcro and then tighten the fabric back under the trim?
Apparently Eagle Claw can screw up a wet dream.
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Mak's Bait Shack in Dubuque, IA has these on sale - they offer assembly so you know you'll have one that is good out of the box, maybe lol
https://www.facebook.com/BaitShackThe/
HUGE SAVINGS!!! The lack of cold weather means crazy deals. Matt needs to move his remaining ice tents so get ready: Shappell FX100I- $210.00, FX150- $260.00, FX200- $270.00, FX200I-$350.00 and DLX4000- $330.00. Also on the block- Jiffy 46X-treme- $440.00!! Only 2 left of each model so please SHARE this post so they move quickly!!
You guys have way more patience than I - I would have shipped that crap back to Shappell/Eagle Claw COD and demanded a new working one be sent to me.
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I am super level headed and have a ton of patience, this is pushing the extent of how much I can wait though. At first I thought they were trying to fix it, then it became comical, now its just annoying.
So I got home from work a few mins ago, got a package from Eagleclaw/Shappell, thinking folding braces and hoping the windbars are in there. Nope another set of seat riser bars... lol **censored**? They already sent me one spare months ago.
Has anyone seen these new and improved folding braces yet?
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Nope another set of seat riser bars... lol **censored**? They already sent me one spare months ago.
Between a few of us we soon might have enough spare parts to build an entirely new shelter!
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Between a few of us we soon might have enough spare parts to build an entirely new shelter!
I still need the parts to build the first before I can work on a spare. LOL
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I still need the parts to build the first before I can work on a spare. LOL
Lol fair. I was thinking along the lines after the orginal shelter is returned all the extra sleds, canvases, seat posts etc they have sent to people trying to fix this.
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Lol fair. I was thinking along the lines after the orginal shelter is returned all the extra sleds, canvases, seat posts etc they have sent to people trying to fix this.
and still end up with a eagle claw/shappell frankenshelter..lol.i don't like putting eagleclaw and shappell in the same sentence.shappell was a fine shelter building co. just a few years ago.
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I ordered a fx100 before reading all this. Now I have reservations about picking it up. They said the setup was the same as the fx100i. This is a shame. It sounds like eagle claw is ruining shappells good name. Should have never sold my old fx100
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Well the fx100i is gone, just dropped it off at FedEx. Still suprised I held out hope this long but no more! Last straw was after the holidays emailing the shappell contact and getting no updates/surprised one of the parts never got shipped. I had liked to think they wanted to help and get things fixed but most of us have been talking to them since around Thanksgiving and I think I was one of the only ones here that even received windbars, never the bracket though. From when I was told the windbars and brackets were done in Dec. everyone should have received them by now. Seems like disorganization between warranty dept and engineers.
Sportsmans guide was, like always, pleasant to work with and made the return very easy and free!
Not sure what I'll be getting for a one man shelter now but after this quality product's is even more important to me.
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Of course I found this thread after I already ordered one. Is this issue with all units or just select ones?
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Of course I found this thread after I already ordered one. Is this issue with all units or just select ones?
Where did you order it from? Also we will need to know if the shelter frame is the silver poles or black coated?
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With mine it’s honestly not too bad other than the bad hinges, and the sagging in the front where the door is. I also was one that got a bad sled, but they replaced that. I have had it out, and the fabric is nice, with it being longer than my previous one it has more fishable space, but it should more if the fabric was tighter up front
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For me the shelter would have been "useable" but if a consumer is going to pay for a product it should work properly. I could fold it down but if I extended the wind break hinge stretching the bars out I literally couldn't fold it back into a windbreak position without feeling like the velcro straps on the canvas would rip out. My sled was fine and everything went together okay unlike others. The canvas was baggy like mentioned above and needs a re work. Also didn't like the lack of wind/rain flaps covering the zipper. That could make a mess.
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I finally returned mine. I took it to camp to free up the downstairs then the windbars and braces showed up. One look at the new parts and I knew it was time to return it. The slotted brace wasn't stretching any fabric and the bars were straight not even bowed to get the fabric back out of the way.Didn't bother to test fit the new parts, just boxed it up and returned. Sportsman's guide has been awesome at both the returns, but they removed the reviews which is really disappointing. After this experience I will not be buying another Shappell/Eagleclaw shelter.
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Not trying to stir the pot, just suprised I haven't heard any talk on if shappell redesigned the fx100i for this year? I thought they were going to, I still won't be interested though.
Somehow I still have a extra thermal canvas they sent me to try but never gave me a label to ship back when I said it was the same, if one wants it :whistle:
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Not trying to stir the pot, just suprised I haven't heard any talk on shappell redesigning the fx100i for this year.
Somehow I still have a extra thermal canvas they sent me to try but never gave me a label to ship back when I said it was the same, if one wants it :whistle:
Interesting, do you have a link to the redesigned shack? Any pics or specs that you are aware of?
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I for sure wouldnt get the redesign one either.being its yet another version of the fx100i.if it was like the very first version it would be alright.i was set on getting one last year but not after hearing all the production problems and mix matched parts.i ended up getting a great deal on some clam scout xl thermal shantys and the fx100i dream is behind me now.
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I for sure wouldnt get the redesign one either.being its yet another version of the fx100i.if it was like the very first version it would be alright.i was set on getting one last year but not after hearing all the production problems and mix matched parts.i ended up getting a great deal on some clam scout xl thermal shantys and the fx100i dream is behind me now.
Yep, I'm pretty much in the same boat. I wouldn't considering getting one until at least next season to make sure people aren't still having issues. I still want to add a flip and go shanty to my arsenal, but leaning toward the Clam Kenai thermal now.
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Sorry guys, I typed that out to fast and should have been more clear.
I have NOT heard of any redesign and also not interested in one even if they did fix it. I was just suprised there hadn't been any talk on the shelter. And if shappel was redesigning it I would have expected to hear something by now ???
I went the same route as the Dr. and picked up the same clam scout deal last spring, I think I will like it and very happy to have moved on.
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I was apparently one of the lucky ones who got the old style tubing and first insulated cover. So far I'm happy with the fx100i that I got, but I wouldn't chance it at all anymore. An Eskimo Wide One Inferno would be my choice if I were buying a one man insulated today.
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Yup another one waiting for a simple FX100 with a thermal cover. would have been a great upgrade to my current fx100. This thread must of gained attention as I saw only 1 of the 4 they had on the floor sell last season... I also waited but ended up picking up the clam scout xl thermal this spring.
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I snagged an Eskimo at the end of last season. No way I'm going back to Shappell after all the BS last year. I still have all the emails saying I would get parts and they were working a fix, only to receive nothing but lip service.
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I never heard anything on the re-design either....I still used mine and it really wasn't all that bad. It was warm enough where even if I had the tent flipped over the front door was zipped open (which is where the fabric was sagging. I don't know if I'd recommend it, but it works for me.
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it's been updated and now has old style tube frame painted black. dog leg bars are no longer if yours had them, so far. the plastic corners are gone and they added the extra velcro to the bottom bar corners so there are 7 sections of velcro on that bar.
it's just like it used to be except with painted bars. there are 4 bars in all.
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Not trying to stir the pot, just suprised I haven't heard any talk on if shappell redesigned the fx100i for this year? I thought they were going to, I still won't be interested though.
Somehow I still have a extra thermal canvas they sent me to try but never gave me a label to ship back when I said it was the same, if one wants it :whistle:
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Sent you a msg
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it's been updated and now has old style tube frame painted black. dog leg bars are no longer if yours had them, so far. the plastic corners are gone and they added the extra velcro to the bottom bar corners so there are 7 sections of velcro on that bar.
it's just like it used to be except with painted bars. there are 4 bars in all.
Any idea if they are doing anything for the guys like myself that had the bad design? Wondering if Wandee is replying to emails, I never heard anything from the last few emails I had sent.
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Sorry guys, I typed that out to fast and should have been more clear.
I have NOT heard of any redesign and also not interested in one even if they did fix it. I was just suprised there hadn't been any talk on the shelter. And if shappel was redesigning it I would have expected to hear something by now ???
I went the same route as the Dr. and picked up the same clam scout deal last spring, I think I will like it and very happy to have moved on.
Did you get my second msg?
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Did you get my second msg?
Yeah sorry, haven't had time to look into it. I'll follow up this weekend and see.
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I called eagle claw and they are making the fx100 i with one piece poles like the original first batch. They are not making them with the black plastic corners. They said have resolved all the issues with the fx100 i.
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i have the gen1 fx100i and it has galvanized conduit and no coating. gen3 fx100i uses same conduit frame as gen1, but has been powder coated black. also no more dog leg bars found on gen2 that had weak wind break mode brackets.
gen3
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I am going to order one. I have the fx50 and its been great and plan on still using. I Want something similar so I can just swap things out on those colder days and load up the fx100i. I like to keep things as light as possible.
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I was apparently one of the lucky ones who got the old style tubing and first insulated cover. So far I'm happy with the fx100i that I got, but I wouldn't chance it at all anymore. An Eskimo Wide One Inferno would be my choice if I were buying a one man insulated today.
Same here, love mine
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Just curious, but why do people prefer the flip over over the bay runner?? I love my bayrunner. stays so nice inside being your totally enclosed and so easy to move, bench across the front for you buddy heater and depth finder that you really can just leave sit while you drill a couple holes and move.
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Bayrunner is an interesting shelter - never was close to one. I do like the idea of the one-man instant flip. Quick to move and setup is just a quick flip.
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Weight is a big issue for me. Plus the ease of hole hopping with the flip over. Also being very convertible with setting it up. On nice days you can leave it all the way down or set up in just the half wind breaker mode like the fx50.
When you leave your bay runner on windy days to drill more holes do you fold it down so it doesn't blow away. I always flip my fx50 down anytime I get off it so it won't blow away.
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with the snow and the weight of the buddy heater, depth finder, some fishing gear it is heavy enough most of the time. glare ice then I anchor it down if I have to. Rarely do I have to move. I fish pan fish and where I fish I know where they will be.
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Just took delivery on my new fx100i. Put it all together and everything went well. It is well built and very light. They definitely redesigned it and did away with the plastic corners. The locking mechanism is real heavy duty. I put it together in my living room. Then I had no trouble carrying it sideways out the door. I think there specs of 42 lbs is right on. My fx50 is supposed to be 27 lbs and they both have the same size tub. I do like the sliding bench seat. I already have a nice stadium seat on my fx50 that will fit right on it. The only thing I will be carrying extra with the fx100 over my fx50 will be my buddy heater and some led lighting. So I am figuring I am only going to be 20 lbs total heavier over the fx50 total when they are loaded. I pull my sleds by hand all the time so hopefully that extra 20 won't be that bad. Time will tell. Plus loading in the back of my truck shouldn't be a problem. All in all I am very happy in the construction of the shelter. PS they still use the Velcro for closing up the skirt to the tub. Which works for me.
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i highly recommend their hy-fax runner kit. pulls much easier in slush and is quieter and saves the tub. shappells kits are best i have used. they are also reversible after they wear down on the bottom, just rotate them so the bottom is on the curved section.
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I have a set on order. Should be here before the weekend.
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if you haven't installed hy-fax, it is best to start on the first bolt on the curved section then go one by one til finished in the back. some heat them, but i never had to doing it this way. just double check where to start the first bolt by lining it up to the back of the tub so it ends up mostly flush with it then roll it over the curved section to find that starting point. you might want to use a marker to draw a start line in case you lose that spot, being slippery materials it is easy to do. making the holes so it starts up front and ends in the rear keeps it from being to loose against the tub.
i skip the outer runners because it's more of a D shape and the inner runners have flats to bolt to.
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That makes sense. Thanks for the advice.
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Used it for the first time today. Won't go without it anymore. It was 10 degrees out and still only had to put the buddy heater on low. Nice not to have my line and eyes on my rod freezing up let alone the hole not freezing up. On the bright side I slammed a bunch of jumbo perch. 11-14 inch range. Ended up with just over 5 lbs of fillets in 3 hours of fishing.