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New York => Ice Fishing New York => Topic started by: schleprock on Feb 20, 2009, 10:22 AM
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Does anybody have any advise on ice fishing black lake. I have fished there in the summer but never in winter
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Does anybody have any advise on ice fishing black lake. I have fished there in the summer but never in winter
Tons of info on this site - look on the Fishing Reports and Conditions Board HERE (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=13662.0)
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go to rollaway bay, its producing well this year. go to the local bait shop and ask also, depending on depth, fish som shiners close to bottom and other 1-2' under ice.
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wheres the ice ?
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open up the freezer.
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lol black lake will be frozen for next weakend
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The cameras looked good, it didn't really go anywhere,just worried bout the 4-8 inches of snow forecasted ,it should help tho
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The cameras looked good, it didn't really go anywhere,just worried bout the 4-8 inches of snow forecasted ,it should help tho
4-8" of snow on top of 1-2" of ice is about as bad as it can get. I'd rather it all broke up before the snow. We'd end up with a lot more ice in following few days. @)
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If it all slushes we'll be alright,that will just freeze and make more supost to be 2 Xmas night
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snow on first ice is not an ice fisherman's friend >:(
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40 MPH winds are gonna suck too...
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If it all slushes we'll be alright,that will just freeze and make more supost to be 2 Xmas night
Won't happen that way, not in any short period of time any ways.
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we dont normally get snow up here. ust alot of cold weather
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we dont normally get snow up here. ust alot of cold weather
;D Where do you live? I been in the north country of NY for 62 years. I've seen snow every one of them. ;D
What State and which Black Lake are you referring to?
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40 MPH winds are gonna suck too...
If it's gonna snow, it may as blow hard enough to either break up the ice or blow the snow off the ice. ;D
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hammond ny ...
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hammond ny ...
Ya, well Hammond - the wind blows hard enough there to keep most of the snow in the hedgerows ;D Good place for a windmill farm! :P
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your telling us it doesnt snow in hamond ?? :cookoo:
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no it snows but like he said the wind blows like a ***** so the lakes never have snow on them only mabe like a inch
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we dont normally get snow up here. ust alot of cold weather
Ogdensburg, NY - Just 20 miles from ya.
Snow (http://myslu.stlawu.edu/~ptri/images/Winter-08/DSC00002.JPG)
More Snow (http://myslu.stlawu.edu/~ptri/images/Winter-08/DSC00004.JPG)
More More Snow (http://myslu.stlawu.edu/~ptri/images/Winter-08/DSC00005.JPG)
And that ain't nothing. ;D
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im just been looking for fishable areas.. you find any?
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im just been looking for fishable areas.. you find any?
Could not possibly make any recommendations at this time. I would not go out on the ice anywhere near here at this time. Now, one week from now, may be a completely different story.
If you are in Hammond, drive down to the lake and check the ice. Be careful.
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It's got good enough yet to fish the lake next weak
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It's got good enough yet to fish the lake next weak
It's not good enough, now, to fish the lake next week; but next week it might be good enough to fish. I'd be willing to bet on 5-6" by next Friday. :P
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In my glass
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Loved the pictures fishforpike. I grew up fishing Wheathouse bay, winter and summer. Thought I was smart in my early twenties and headed South to get away from it all, turns out I wasn't smart enough I now live on the South edge of the Lake Ontario Snowbelt and boy does it snow. The fishing here is good, it just doesn't start as early. Enough jibberish I just wanted to say thanks for the memories and hope you guys up North have a great season and stay safe.
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Wait so the lakes got 1 inch on her now?
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If it's gonna snow, it may as blow hard enough to either break up the ice or blow the snow off the ice. ;D
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No reports of safe ice in surrounding areas. Definately no safe ice on Black Lake at this point. Next week may be a different story, as FishForPike stated. We see open water where we are located today, and the ice has tried to lock up three times. Starting Sunday they are calling for single digits at night four days in a row. Our guess would be that Black Lake will be safe for fishing in areas of no current or pressure ridges next week. All depends on the snow accumilation...hopeful ly lack thereof.
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No reports of safe ice in surrounding areas. Definately no safe ice on Black Lake at this point. Next week may be a different story, as FishForPike stated. We see open water where we are located today, and the ice has tried to lock up three times. Starting Sunday they are calling for single digits at night four days in a row. Our guess would be that Black Lake will be safe for fishing in areas of no current or pressure ridges next week. All depends on the snow accumilation...hopeful ly lack thereof.
Thanks a bunch for that update. We look forward to another great ice season - hope you get busy soon. ;D
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Any Reports on black lake?
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you want a report call chapmans bait and tackle , hes very good and on the spot
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Alright ill have to give them a call in the morning might be too late not thank you!
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Any Reports on black lake?
Like was said - call Chapman - he report just a couple of days ago - read through the posts, look at the weather forecast and history - you will get the idea.
I drove the length of the lake yesterday,. A lot of open water and some bays are froze up. We have are about to get some good ice-making weather.
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Its getting close!!!!! :
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Looks like you guys could have big snow coming weds-thurs....
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just great, man that will kill ice production
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Looks like you guys could have big snow coming weds-thurs....
What the heck are all those lines and numbers on there? :o ;)
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Sad to say but we got to much snow coming. I kinda want another warm up after the storm to get rid of the snow. and get good ice.
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webcam shows lots of snow covered ice and no one on it.
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webcam shows lots of snow covered ice and no one on it.
It's first ice - give us a chance! And there's not a LOT of ice. I'll be there on Thursday or Friday or Saturday or Sunday or all of those days; if there's enough ice.
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It will be safe soon enough.
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Snag,I saw a similar model on meteostar. Looks more like a Thursday storm on their site. Also more snow around the third.
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Pike i believe im heading up there thursday see you there HOPEFULLY :D
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I was on Black Lake today at two different spots. Almost 4 inches in both areas. Caught 3 pike and didn't have tip-ups out til 2:30.
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4" now thats good news
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what parts of the lake froze up
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D cant waitt!!!!
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See you up there soon!! ;D
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You guys headed for Black Lake later this week - the ice is marginal in the "good" areas. Black Lake has current throughout. Be careful, especially near the points coming out of the bays and other areas of current. If you don't know the lake, stay where there is, or has been, other traffic. Just my early ice recommendation for Black Lake. Early ice and late ice and mid-winter ice claims unaware fishermen every year. No deaths in the recent past, but getting wet through the ice ain't no fun. Be prepared.
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Thank you for the pointers.
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where is "this" black lake?
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where is "this" black lake?
RIGHT HERE (https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=215785491095890530094.00046e5ebbda7c6676fb4&msa=0)
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Too bad about this - they been wrong before though - >:(
... WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BURLINGTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH... WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING.
* LOCATIONS... THE ENTIRE NORTH COUNTRY.
* HAZARD TYPES... HEAVY SNOW.
* ACCUMULATIONS... 10 TO 14 INCHES OF SNOW.
* TIMING... SNOW WILL BEGIN ACROSS THE REGION LATE WEDNESDAY EVENING... BECOMING HEAVY DURING THE PRE-DAWN HOURS ON THURSDAY. HEAVY SNOW CONTINUES THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY THURSDAY... BECOMING LIGHTER THURSDAY NIGHT AND ENDING FRIDAY MORNING.
* IMPACTS... SIGNIFICANT TRAVEL AND AVIATION IMPACTS ARE POSSIBLE DUE TO HEAVY SNOW... GUSTY WINDS AND POOR VISIBILITY.
* WINDS... NORTHEAST 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 35 MPH.
* TEMPERATURES... LOWS IN THE 20S WEDNESDAY NIGHT..AND HIGHS AROUND 30 THURSDAY.
* VISIBILITIES... AS LOW AS 1/4 MILE POSSIBLE.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW... SLEET... OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.
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Has any one heard of ice any where else in nys
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Has any one heard of ice any where else in nys
I would look at the reports conditions board if I were u, otherwise get in your truck and start driving till u find some like I did. It's not hard to find:)
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That's the Christmas spirit. :roflmao: you need 3 post's recore then you can view the reports/ conditions board ;)
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Just make sure there is actually fish underneath the ice your on huh toxic ? Lol that's it whistler spoon is coming out next weekend u can count on it!!!!
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Just upgraded that to a warning, up to 16 inches of snow....
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Thanks this is my second year ice fishing tried it last year and got hooked
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It's easy enough to get hooked recore . Ice fishing is absolutely awesome especially as years go by and there is always something new to learn every year . The whole ice fishing community is like no other and pulling into a lake first thing in the am with nothing but people venturing out in the ice is a thrill like no other. Good luck bud
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Thanks good luck to you too we are going to try
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gonna head up to black lake tomorrow i'll post pics
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Going up tomorrow is it safe?!?
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Going up tomorrow is it safe?!?
In general, In My Opinion, NO. In some "spots" YES. You will have more fun with the drive in the snow storm than you will fishing, though; I'll bet. ;D
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I know the some spots ;D ;D ;D ;D pm me
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After 20 years of visiting the open water I will get my chance to hit the hard water later in 2013..can't wait :)
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Got some friends going on it today, not me! I'll wait till the weekend
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07 degrees here in Altmar, I see its 8 degrees there, bet you guys build some ice by tomorrow night, before the snow hits...
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I hope so, the snow will slow things up.
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Aweful quiet up there. ;D
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I don't blame the Black Lake Thugz ;)2
Last year turned into a clown show up there early ice...locals need their peace and quiet, that's why they choose to live up there @)
AW
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There is ice out there. I was at the bait store J and H in gouverneur and they were almost out of minnows already. There were lots of people heading out on the ice. It was bad last year at black lake for sure. Thats why they are so tight lipped this year.
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only 3 1/2 inches of snow down here in Altmar, storms a dud ...lookin good...
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only 3 1/2 inches of snow down here in Altmar, storms a dud ...lookin good...
Sodus checking in. Over 1' already. Yes i said 1 foot u S.O.B's
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Sodus checking in. Over 1' already. Yes i said 1 foot u S.O.B's
that should cool sodus bay down.
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Yeah its definitely not a bad thing. Snow and wind on an open bay. Curious as to how much you guys got up there in Hammond on BL
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only 3 1/2 inches of snow down here in Altmar, storms a dud ...lookin good...
I was saying the same thing last night at 10:30 when no snow had fallen - yet! It's coming now - we prolly got about 8" and it's coming. Hopefully it blows "out" :o
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Yes ladies and girl scouts. Going to go for some rippin on the snow machine. What did u guys get up on BL.
Yeah its definitely not a bad thing. Snow and wind on an open bay. Curious as to how much you guys got up there in Hammond on BL
You aint kidding there bud
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Anyone know how the ice is forming on black lake?
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Anyone know how the ice is forming on black lake?
Ummm. Its not right now we need to wait for the snow to stop. Then it will start forming good only thing is the bit that had ice now has snow insulation it could be a trick to get past it
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There was alot of traffic last year for sure. Black Lake was one of the only places with consitent ice throughout the season, although it came a little late, and left really early. :) I think alot of us are being silent currently because this snow is really effecting ice conditions, and we want everyone to be safe, and not get ahead of themselves. Update for Black Lake : Snow is still coming down, and we have over 16" of snow. Slushy ice conditions out front of us here. We were told there was a good five inches of ice above Edwardsville measured before the Snow hit, and that is the most ice we have had reported. People were also fishing MileArm and Rollway Bay. These are the most inconsistent Ice Conditions we have seen in years. If you head this way, and do not see anyone fishing, it is for a reason. Even though we are having cold nights, snow insulates like a blanket, and cannot penetrate through to the ice. Very iffy. Will update as often as possible. Stay safe everyone.
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There was alot of traffic last year for sure. Black Lake was one of the only places with consitent ice throughout the season, although it came a little late, and left really early. :) I think alot of us are being silent currently because this snow is really effecting ice conditions, and we want everyone to be safe, and not get ahead of themselves. Update for Black Lake : Snow is still coming down, and we have over 16" of snow. Slushy ice conditions out front of us here. We were told there was a good five inches of ice above Edwardsville measured before the Snow hit, and that is the most ice we have had reported. People were also fishing MileArm and Rollway Bay. These are the most inconsistent Ice Conditions we have seen in years. If you head this way, and do not see anyone fishing, it is for a reason. Even though we are having cold nights, snow insulates like a blanket, and cannot penetrate through to the ice. Very iffy. Will update as often as possible. Stay safe everyone.
Thanks for all the info chapmans :)
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Great info...
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There was alot of traffic last year for sure. Black Lake was one of the only places with consitent ice throughout the season, although it came a little late, and left really early. :) I think alot of us are being silent currently because this snow is really effecting ice conditions, and we want everyone to be safe, and not get ahead of themselves. Update for Black Lake : Snow is still coming down, and we have over 16" of snow. Slushy ice conditions out front of us here. We were told there was a good five inches of ice above Edwardsville measured before the Snow hit, and that is the most ice we have had reported. People were also fishing MileArm and Rollway Bay. These are the most inconsistent Ice Conditions we have seen in years. If you head this way, and do not see anyone fishing, it is for a reason. Even though we are having cold nights, snow insulates like a blanket, and cannot penetrate through to the ice. Very iffy. Will update as often as possible. Stay safe everyone.
Thanks for the update
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does anyone know ice thickness and how much snow is on the lake rollaway bay
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that guy from the baitshop just gave you an updated accurate report, take the time to scroll 3 inches.
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that guy from the baitshop just gave you an updated accurate report, take the time to scroll 3 inches.
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Heading up to rollaway bay in the morning,anyone with any infoof the latest ice conditions from today would be great.pm me thanks
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Lots of snow
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Funny stuff right there....
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Not sure if the ice underneath all this snow has deteriorated but there is now a lot of weight on a little bit of ice. Super slushy here and my fishing activity is now on hold.
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that sounds like a good idea , just a rumor but i heard that some one got a wet butt up north today but is a soprano now ;)
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Still going to head up tomorrow... Even if I have to fish close to shore... ;D
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Still going to head up tomorrow... Even if I have to fish close to shore... ;D
have fun and be careful
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have fun and be careful
Spud, picks, and pfd in hand.... Chapman's think the ice will be fine underneath. Hopefully a bit blows off tonight.
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Dogger I have a feeling you won't be alone headed up there exploring... ;D
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Supposed to get real cold up there tonight too... Should harden things up a bit... I hope :-\
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Dogger I have a feeling you won't be alone headed up there exploring... ;D
Definitely not. Should be some fellow anglers to team up with...
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Too many people on here itching to turn an auger, there will be a bunch of Dora's out and about...I would be looking too if I could...LOL
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Too many people on here itching to turn an auger, there will be a bunch of Dora's out and about...I would be looking too if I could...LOL
I like that.... ;D
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::) ::) :o :tipup:
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Some crazy SOB will probably try and take a machine out there :nono:
Have fun guys and gals...please be careful and post reports :)
AW
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First ice up there is sometimes sketchy be safe.
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We dont have alot of different info to report. We have been told that about 4 inches of black ice was measured on Rollway Bay, just today. Another good inch of white ice on top, covered with about 6 inches of snow. Do NOT go past, or even near the point if you are heading there. It is important for everyone to know the only places people are fishing on Black Lake are above Edwardsville, Mile Arm, and Rollway. More ice cannot be made until most of the snow is cleared off the ice. Stay safe everyone.
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Great reports! Thanks...
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Miserable day... Snowed like crazy... I was on rollaway at daybreak and the slush was hardened on top of 4" of good ice. By 2:00 when I left it was a chore dragging sled through the slush... Id say a good 3-4" o slush... Still a lot of snow in spots that haven't been traveled... Very slow bite... Managed to put a few on the ice for dinner but most fish were just looking and very lethargic... Gonna wait until you can get out to the channel before my next trip there... :(
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any word if the slush has got better and about how far u can get out on rollaway bay
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any word if the slush has got better and about how far u can get out on rollaway bay
Not much is going to change till we get rid of the snow. It would be better if we started over.
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thanks phil
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I'll be checking later in the week.
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Up to 35 this afternoon and tonite. Maybe it'll help settle this snow and let the cold do a little "penetration" work. ;D
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any news on the ice? thinking of heading up on Sat to catch some Pike...thanks
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Fished milearm today. About 4" of ice, slushy on top and lots of snow on the slush. Caught a handful of crappie, and dink gills. Had a couple of flags, but didn't land them. A few guys next to us had a few pike. Someone was riding a sled around, not sure I would be.
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HOPEFULLY SOME SNOW MELTED OFF THE ICE!!!SHOULD BE OK IN PLACES THIS WEEKEND JUST B CAREFUL OUT THERE
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Someone was riding a sled around, not sure I would be.
oh my. :o today that would have just been asking for trouble. i bought an atv specifically for this lake. believe me i am ITCHING to get it out there. better safe than sorry....
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Update for Black Lake:
There is very little snow on the "wider" part of the lake. We checked the ice out front of us this morning. Bearing in mind that the ice conditions will be varied depending on where you go--up to 6 inches of solid ice was meassured where snow slushed up and froze all the way through. In some areas, the ice is double layered; with only 1.5 inches of black ice underneathe. With the freeze forecasted, ice conditions should improve more overnight. For those wanting to get away from the crowds of Mile Arm and Rollway Bay; out our way there is a nearby camp road that has been plowed straight to the ice, with easy access and parking. Will update again when there is change. Be safe everyone.
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i know the locals have been out ;)
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Thanks for the report! Hopefully be up this wknd
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Able to get past the point on Rollaway yet?
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Able to get past the point on Rollaway yet?
Maybe - I was on the lake checking ice this afternoon - Chapmans posted a report that was pretty good and I agree with. In general it's improving. -2 right now - if there is/was any areas of two ice layers with water between - they will be one after tonight. Just be careful - stay where there is no snow and check often with your spud - take a buddy along that help you out if oyu get in trouble. My buddy today was a 200 ft. rope - I found 6" (4 white and 2 black) where I found 2 on Saturday.
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Good report, stay safe out there , spud the way for sure.
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;D Thanx for the update townzee...I'M hoping to get up to my place on the bay soon !!!
Fished milearm today. About 4" of ice, slushy on top and lots of snow on the slush. Caught a handful of crappie, and dink gills. Had a couple of flags, but didn't land them. A few guys next to us had a few pike. Someone was riding a sled around, not sure I would be.
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thanks Mr. C and FFP for the up date
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Thanks for the update guys
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Dose anyone know if there is safe ice on this lake. i just don't want to drive 2 hours to find out there is no ice. my brother said that it might be. Thanks :tipup:
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welcome newbie. take some time and read through the posts there are plenty of posts on black lake. once you reach three posts you can access the reports and conditions board for more info. the best place to get a report is to call the local bait shop chapmans. very helpfull people
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http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=234213.0 (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=234213.0)
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Hows the fishing at mile arm bay
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Hows the fishing at mile arm bay
There are no fish in tht area - it's all fished out. :o
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There are no fish in tht area - it's all fished out. :o
oh my...guess we know what are of the lake you "avoid" ;D
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I hope u leave some fish for us FISHFORPIKE. We r making our annual trip up to Black Lake on the 17th. We have a camp above the rock wall down Chapmans Point Rd. I'm sure we've seen each other out there in the years past. We also have a friend with a camp on Scot Acres that we visit in the summer.
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hows the ice lookin with the warm temps?
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hows the ice lookin with the warm temps?
We have not had and "warm" weather yet. Cold tonite and just above 30 tomorrow - we ain't hurt'n yet.
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We have not had and "warm" weather yet. Cold tonite and just above 30 tomorrow - we ain't hurt'n yet.
but in the main lake where there isn't current, is it wheeler time yet?! ???
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but in the main lake where there isn't current, is it wheeler time yet?! ???
Well, it's not like that. Can't make that kind of statement yet. I know of a few that are running their wheelers around but they know where they are going. Have taken time to find where they can go.
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i do realize conditions vary throughout the lake. i've got a few holes i found by foot that required MAJOR foot travel. i look forward to being able to zip out there instead of sweating buckets.
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heading out tomorrow to try and locate some crapps. hopefully we will have some success, with a few pointers from fellow IS members, otherwise we are fishing blind.
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If I come up to black lake on Saturday will I be able to get on te main lake?
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If I come up to black lake on Saturday will I be able to get on te main lake?
Yes. Probably. Weather is coming - we will see.
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Update....ice conditions are everything from dangerous to 8 inches. Very little snow on the ice. ATV reported through the ice in the Rollway Bay area. There is a warm-up forecast for this weekend. Will update again when we know more.
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thank you Mr. C.
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Everyone take a break and look for shed deer antlers... ;D
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Everyone take a break and look for shed deer antlers... ;D
Good advise.
I changed my mind when I got up this AM. Just to be real though, an ATV going through the ice at Rollaway is not an unheard of event for that area. There a few very dangerous spots around that area at almost any time of the ice season. Black Lake has some current - more like a big shallow river than a lake.
We got 4+ days above freezing and some rain coming. It'll get cold and the ice will be better, in the end, for all this warm weather.
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Hit rollway bay yesterday from 9:00am till dark. 15 tip ups and jigged. I got 2 small racer pike, and we also lost 1 pike. Jigged up 8 keeper crappies and one perch. Threw back alot of dinks, but it made for a good day. Can-Am side by side was through the ice about 100 yrds away, glad everyone is okay. They worked on getting it out yesterday throughout the day but gave up, not sure how they will get it out unless they cut a 6ft wide path all the way to shore :o
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Any info about the ice conditions?
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Hit rollway bay yesterday from 9:00am till dark. 15 tip ups and jigged. I got 2 small racer pike, and we also lost 1 pike. Jigged up 8 keeper crappies and one perch. Threw back alot of dinks, but it made for a good day. Can-Am side by side was through the ice about 100 yrds away, glad everyone is okay. They worked on getting it out yesterday throughout the day but gave up, not sure how they will get it out unless they cut a 6ft wide path all the way to shore :o
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I think that was a pretty good conditions report. No one can say what is safe right now. It is changing by the hour.
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Hit rollway bay yesterday from 9:00am till dark. 15 tip ups and jigged. I got 2 small racer pike, and we also lost 1 pike. Jigged up 8 keeper crappies and one perch. Threw back alot of dinks, but it made for a good day. Can-Am side by side was through the ice about 100 yrds away, glad everyone is okay. They worked on getting it out yesterday throughout the day but gave up, not sure how they will get it out unless they cut a 6ft wide path all the way to shore :o
i think that says all i need to hear for now on vehicles on the lake. are you saying it was just sitting out there overnight? how far in was it?
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i think that says all i need to hear for now on vehicles on the lake. are you saying it was just sitting out there overnight? how far in was it?
id cut the path.
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Bad day.....
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Eeesus! ???
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that pic shows everything. for ice conditions its hard to say....where we were there was 6-8 inches but it was a layer of a couple solid inches then a weak slushy layer than another layer of okay ice but that was Thursday. when we left yesterday at dark that side by side was actually more in the water, somehow they lost what progresss they had. Good luck to them and hope they got it out today....dec frowns up this stuff
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that pic shows everything. for ice conditions its hard to say....where we were there was 6-8 inches but it was a layer of a couple solid inches then a weak slushy layer than another layer of okay ice but that was Thursday. when we left yesterday at dark that side by side was actually more in the water, somehow they lost what progresss they had. Good luck to them and hope they got it out today....dec frowns up this stuff
If they didnt get it out today I am afraid the are in trouble....forecast doesnt look good.
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Might b easier with no ice
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if that sinks to the bottom, does it just get abandoned? or does the state require that it be recovered in the spring? that would cost a few bucks i think.
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if that sinks to the bottom, does it just get abandoned? or does the state require that it be recovered in the spring? that would cost a few bucks i think.
150$ a day for it being in the water i believe. Its something outrageous like that. And no dec will force u to extarct asap. And extraction on ice is not cheap
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Wow I was just there like 3 days ago with a couple of my friends sorry to hear about the wheeler thars not cool hope everything pans out an I honestly wanted tosee if there anyone that knows the lake. An knows where the walleye hang out pm me when this warm spell is over :woot:
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150$ a day for it being in the water i believe. Its something outrageous like that. And no dec will force u to extarct asap. And extraction on ice is not cheap
The fines, if any, are case by case. I know of several vehicles through the ice on black lake and don't recall one of them being fined as long as they got the machine out asap. Get a chain saw, a wrecker with a winch and a local diver. Not too bad but bad enough. I hate to have a 10k + machine sitting under water like that.
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I couldnt be positive for black seeings i have actually never fished. But sodus bay if its not out within 24hrs its something crazy like those numbers for fine per day. But i have extraction included on my snowmobile ins. They wont pay to fix it of water but will get it out that was a great thing i liked about the policy
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Heard through the grapevine at the convenience store today that they got the machine out...
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Good good
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went out today a couple crappie 8 pike and a whole bunch of sunfish ice is about 6-8 inches there were a couple wheelers driving around about half an ich of water on the ice
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Thanks for the report Eduard! thought about going up to black this am but had conflicting reports so I fished a bit south. definitely did not have a day like you.
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Hopefully the ice holds up would like to get up there this weekend
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Hopefully the ice holds up would like to get up there this weekend
Very likely to be good later in the week. ;D
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Thanks fishforpike looking forward to getting back up there had a riot last year
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Hello all..I was recently invited to join some friends at a place called Black Lake Marine Cottages in a couple weeks for 3 days of fishing. Just wanting to know anyones experiences with this place, pointers on general areas to fish, I enjoy setting tipups for pike while jigging for pannies...thanks in advance for your help!
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My fishn camp is next door to black lake marine. My friends from Buffalo and I will be fishing this coming Friday through Sunday i'll post our results. The people who run black lake marine are good people, nice cottages.
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Thanks WHS any info is much appreciated, asthis will be our first time fishing Black
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Was just wondering how well the ice held up over the weekend? Never fished Black lake was interested in maybe heading up there soon.
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Was just wondering how well the ice held up over the weekend? Never fished Black lake was interested in maybe heading up there soon.
The ice is still there - this cold weather coming will make it better than it was. The lake is "on the rise" though from all the runoff, which will likely make the shoreline a bit difficult for a while.
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Looking fishy for this weekend?
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WHS i will be up there same weekend your B lo friends are..maybe we can hookup..if you dont mind showing me some spots..I will bring the HAM..and some 800..iam staying at ..ATWOOD camp..I drive a blue datsun..should be in the drive fri..morn..stop by..hope to see you guys..
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Is there any good report on the ice up there. Thinking of making a day/night trip there this weekend? Would really appreciate it.
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Is there any good report on the ice up there. Thinking of making a day/night trip there this weekend? Would really appreciate it.
Ice should be good. I don't have personal experience (not since Sunday in the rain, when I got a wet azz) anyways it should be good. Watch the shoreline and any areas that may be bad from the rising water and all the runoff.
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Fished MileArm on saturday, decent day of fishing beautiful weather. Lost my auger there too, it's a black 5"lazer should have been right by the "carp coffin" boat outside my buddies camp where you get on. PM me if you or someone you know may have found it, it's my only auger and i'm gonna have a hard time gathering up the cash for a new one
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Was gonna head up first thing in am, will i be able to get on mile arm safely. 2 hr ride and not being abpe to fish would suck. Any report would be greatly appreciated.
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Was gonna head up first thing in am, will i be able to get on mile arm safely. 2 hr ride and not being abpe to fish would suck. Any report would be greatly appreciated.
X2.
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Was gonna head up first thing in am, will i be able to get on mile arm safely. 2 hr ride and not being abpe to fish would suck. Any report would be greatly appreciated.
Mile Arm should be good. Watch the shoreline. The lake is on the rise.
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I'm going to fish rollway this weekend does any one know of any reasonable price places to stay up there for a nite
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Current update...Due to run off, Black Lake water level is rising. Makes for poor ice on shore line. Walk on only at this time. Ice conditions are soft, dangerous to 6 inches. Many cold nights are apparent in the upcoming forecast. Ice conditions should be improving nightly. There are people still fishing daily. We will update again as soon as we can.
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go back to the last post on page 9. chapmans did a report
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Thanks for the update Mr. Chapman
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Thanks for the update Mr.Chapman! I will be fishing Black for the 1st time next week and I am pumped!!
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my buddies are on mile arm staying on the ice 4 2 nights should they worry about rising water???????
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my buddies are on mile arm staying on the ice 4 2 nights should they worry about rising water???????
not in mile arm it self, the river runs around the out side of the bay on the right they should be fine , and the water flows away from the bay to the north ,
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Hows the bite up there thinking about heading up sunday. I went up last year and only got 3 fish
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there doing pretty well
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I've never been to Mile Arm on the ice. How do you guys access it in the winter?
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we have a buddies cabin up there we park at at the end of the bay there is enough romm for a couple vehicles down there
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Off Scott Acres or Chapmans Point Rd.? I've been down Chapman's Point in the summer on the way to Back Bay. Really narrow...
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did anyone fall thru i heard from my friend he told me couple people fell thru i dont think so just wondering
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I'll be joining sbuffaloice on our 1st trip ever to Black Lake next week. If any area regulars would be willing to share any info like what baits produce well or tecniques that may work better than others it would be greatly appreciated. I've got both tipups and tipdowns that I'm bringing as well as the assortment of rods. Our usual strategy is to jig for panfish while we set out tipups for pike or sometimes I go with the tipdowns for panfish. I'll be in either a Commando flipover or my new Clam bigfoot 2000 hub and I should have my Iceshanty flag flying so anyone in the area is welcome to stop by the hut and with 6 guys I'm willing to bet the tipup minefield will give us away too. It would be cool to meet some of our shanty brothers and sisters out there and if any of you are planning a trip our way to say Silver Lake, Chautauqua, or even Erie if it freezes, I would be more than happy to share any info to help you have a successful trip. We are staying at Black Lake Marine and Cottages and hopefully with a good day of fishing we'll be having our 1st fishfry on the shores of Black Lake. Thanks again for any info.
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are those webcams pointed at a place no1 fishes or is the ice just not safe there. Seems wierd because it looks good. Regardless me and buddy will be there saturday. I can't see how it wouldn't be walkable by saturday
Seems odd doesn't it? I put both those cams up. The one on the north end (BigBay) is in an area that is fished regularly - it is just a very narrow field for that side of the lake it is on. The far side gets fished as well, just not much. The ice in that area is VERY walkable. The tracks you see "imbedded" in the ice there are mine from my and a friends ATVs. Just before the warm up. Anyways it's a pretty safe area. Walkable for sure. Maybe I'll be checking it out tomorrow with the wheeler ;D BTW - that is not far from all the area all the talk is about - Black Lake Marine.
The other cam is not pointed at an area that fished much. Not very accessible.
Hope you guys that headed this way have some good luck. There was a nice muskie caught and released in the area of Black Lake Marine last year. Good area for crappie jigging as well. Got to move around and find the "holes" in the weed bed there. You will be in 5 - 7 FOW.
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Seems odd doesn't it? I put both those cams up. The one on the north end (BigBay) is in an area that is fished regularly - it is just a very narrow field for that side of the lake it is on. The far side gets fished as well, just not much. The ice in that area is VERY walkable. The tracks you see "imbedded" in the ice there are mine from my and a friends ATVs. Just before the warm up. Anyways it's a pretty safe area. Walkable for sure. Maybe I'll be checking it out tomorrow with the wheeler ;D BTW - that is not far from all the area all the talk is about - Black Lake Marine.
The other cam is not pointed at an area that fished much. Not very accessible.
Hope you guys that headed this way have some good luck. There was a nice muskie caught and released in the area of Black Lake Marine last year. Good area for crappie jigging as well. Got to move around and find the "holes" in the weed bed there. You will be in 5 - 7 FOW.
Silver Lake is kind of the same way, if you can find the holes in the weeds or even better the lanes the fish like to travel while in the weeds and it will be a good day. I've seen guys off by 1' or 2' and they get nothing while 12" away another guy is killing them. Can anyone tell me about the price and availability of bait? Just need to know if I need to bring anything that may not be available. I'll probably be looking for waxies and spikes on the grub end then maybe some shiners and bigger pike bait. Thanks again guys.
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Chapman's will be your bait shop to look for on the Edwardsville side of the lake. Very nice store and great people.
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Silver Lake is kind of the same way, if you can find the holes in the weeds or even better the lanes the fish like to travel while in the weeds and it will be a good day. I've seen guys off by 1' or 2' and they get nothing while 12" away another guy is killing them. Can anyone tell me about the price and availability of bait? Just need to know if I need to bring anything that may not be available. I'll probably be looking for waxies and spikes on the grub end then maybe some shiners and bigger pike bait. Thanks again guys.
Both Chapman's and Black Lake Marine will have what you want. Never paid attention to the price. I think I got 50 waxies for 4$ or something like that. That's pricey, in my mind, for grubs. :P
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Seems odd doesn't it? I put both those cams up. The one on the north end (BigBay) is in an area that is fished regularly - it is just a very narrow field for that side of the lake it is on. The far side gets fished as well, just not much. The ice in that area is VERY walkable. The tracks you see "imbedded" in the ice there are mine from my and a friends ATVs. Just before the warm up. Anyways it's a pretty safe area. Walkable for sure. Maybe I'll be checking it out tomorrow with the wheeler ;D BTW - that is not far from all the area all the talk is about - Black Lake Marine.
The other cam is not pointed at an area that fished much. Not very accessible.
Hope you guys that headed this way have some good luck. There was a nice muskie caught and released in the area of Black Lake Marine last year. Good area for crappie jigging as well. Got to move around and find the "holes" in the weed bed there. You will be in 5 - 7 FOW.
Thanks for the cams.I check them at least twice a day...and I don't even fish black lake.I've been itching to give it a try.But it's just nice to see some hard water.
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This is an awful thing I've lived in gouverneur my whole life and fished black lake alot and I have no clue where black lake marine is. Is that near the log cabins or by Chapman's. I guess I've never paid any attention I've always went to Chapman's been going there for years my parents used to rent a camp every summer at Chapman's so that's where I've always done my business.
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Seems odd doesn't it? I put both those cams up. The one on the north end (BigBay) is in an area that is fished regularly - it is just a very narrow field for that side of the lake it is on. The far side gets fished as well, just not much. The ice in that area is VERY walkable. The tracks you see "imbedded" in the ice there are mine from my and a friends ATVs. Just before the warm up. Anyways it's a pretty safe area. Walkable for sure. Maybe I'll be checking it out tomorrow with the wheeler ;D BTW - that is not far from all the area all the talk is about - Black Lake Marine.
The other cam is not pointed at an area that fished much. Not very accessible.
Hope you guys that headed this way have some good luck. There was a nice muskie caught and released in the area of Black Lake Marine last year. Good area for crappie jigging as well. Got to move around and find the "holes" in the weed bed there. You will be in 5 - 7 FOW.
you'll let us know if you make it out on your wheeler, right? ;D ;) wondering about that shoreline ice...
i know there will be skeptics, but two summers ago i had my first sorta contact with a muskie on black lake. i won't say exactly where(was in about 7 fow), but i was working a kvd through a known weedy area. occasionally i'd get some weeds hung up on the treble hooks of the lure and found that if i ripped it real good with the rod, i could break those weeds free. one particular cast, i did just that and as the lure was nearing the edge of the boat, i saw an enormous muskie come out of the dark bottom and come up and miss that lure as i burned that lure back to my rod. it was 5 feet from the edge of the boat. i was ill. i stood in stunned silence for what seemed like forever before my fishing partner asked me what was up. i tell him and get the reply most of you are probably thinking..."yeah, right."
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you'll let us know if you make it out on your wheeler, right? ;D ;) wondering about that shoreline ice...
i know there will be skeptics, but two summers ago i had my first sorta contact with a muskie on black lake. i won't say exactly where(was in about 7 fow), but i was working a kvd through a known weedy area. occasionally i'd get some weeds hung up on the treble hooks of the lure and found that if i ripped it real good with the rod, i could break those weeds free. one particular cast, i did just that and as the lure was nearing the edge of the boat, i saw an enormous muskie come out of the dark bottom and come up and miss that lure as i burned that lure back to my rod. it was 5 feet from the edge of the boat. i was ill. i stood in stunned silence for what seemed like forever before my fishing partner asked me what was up. i tell him and get the reply most of you are probably thinking..."yeah, right."
Sounds like it was time to try that old trick of stuffing the rod/lure down in the water and doing a hard figure 8 repeatedly with the rod through the water-you never know-next time.. Cya...
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This is an awful thing I've lived in gouverneur my whole life and fished black lake alot and I have no clue where black lake marine is. Is that near the log cabins or by Chapman's. I guess I've never paid any attention I've always went to Chapman's been going there for years my parents used to rent a camp every summer at Chapman's so that's where I've always done my business.
Black Lake Marine is a bait shop and campground on the lake. About 2 miles towards Ogdensburg from Edwardsville. Not far from the bigbay cam.
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you'll let us know if you make it out on your wheeler, right? ;D ;) wondering about that shoreline ice...
i know there will be skeptics, but two summers ago i had my first sorta contact with a muskie on black lake. i won't say exactly where(was in about 7 fow), but i was working a kvd through a known weedy area. occasionally i'd get some weeds hung up on the treble hooks of the lure and found that if i ripped it real good with the rod, i could break those weeds free. one particular cast, i did just that and as the lure was nearing the edge of the boat, i saw an enormous muskie come out of the dark bottom and come up and miss that lure as i burned that lure back to my rod. it was 5 feet from the edge of the boat. i was ill. i stood in stunned silence for what seemed like forever before my fishing partner asked me what was up. i tell him and get the reply most of you are probably thinking..."yeah, right."
Drove to the lake tonite - found about 8' of water (distance to the ice) I know my tracked wheeler won't get up on that "shelf". Maybe in a day or two. The lake is now going back down from a high. All the local rivers have subsided and are receding. The ice-maker is at work tonite.
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Thanks fishforpike. I don't get down on that end of the lake much could be why I don't know about it lol.
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I want to have a good fishing day next weekend idk where to go I fished rollaway bay had a couple small pike on the tip up an. One monster that got away -_- I was looking for walleye but anything will do I just don't wanna get skunked pm me if there's a cerian spot I should go any tips would be awsome
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to long of a drive to make it worth it .....
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i guess u never fished it so stay home more fish 4 me lol
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I want to have a good fishing day next weekend idk where to go I fished rollaway bay had a couple small pike on the tip up an. One monster that got away -_- I was looking for walleye but anything will do I just don't wanna get skunked pm me if there's a cerian spot I should go any tips would be awsome
What's your definition of a "good fishing day"? Good "catching" day? Better stay away cause no one can show or tell you where to go for that. You can look for walleye in Black Lake for many years and not find them. I doubt you will get skunked. Just go and enjoy the lake and the day. That's what I'm in it for; catching fish is a bonus. Finding walleye in Black Lake is a real bonus. ;D
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What's your definition of a "good fishing day"? Good "catching" day? Better stay away cause no one can show or tell you where to go for that. You can look for walleye in Black Lake for many years and not find them. I doubt you will get skunked. Just go and enjoy the lake and the day. That's what I'm in it for; catching fish is a bonus. Finding walleye in Black Lake is a real bonus. ;D
hey FFP i would like to find a few eyes to ;D
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looking for ice report
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looking for ice report
Go to "Daddyrainbow's" Post which was made a few before yours. You have 3 Posts so you can get to the Reports & Conditions board that is explained there. Go to the Lake you have interest in and read up starting with the most recent Post and work backwords. If there is not an ice report there than it is probably not safe. Welcome and good luck to you....
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just found this googling black lake http://blacklakenymap.info this should give you anything you need
Yeh, I posted that here b4. I've got some doing on that map ;D No real "spots" though @)
Pick up a hotspots map for Black Lake and study it (bottom contours) along with the web map and you'll be on the way to knowing Black Lake.
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What's your definition of a "good fishing day"? Good "catching" day? Better stay away cause no one can show or tell you where to go for that. You can look for walleye in Black Lake for many years and not find them. I doubt you will get skunked. Just go and enjoy the lake and the day. That's what I'm in it for; catching fish is a bonus. Finding walleye in Black Lake is a real bonus. ;D
Good catching day. Sounds good FFP lol I will find me a walleye an if they are that hard to find when you get intothem are they bigger? An I really want to have a good time ill enjoy it when im out there I love this season
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Good info
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I have the strangest feeling its going to be a zoo on the lake in the morning... :tipup: I will post an actual report also and break this vague silence
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First of all, we appreciate all the compliments, nice to know our efforts are well received. :)
Update for the lake as of 8 am this morning....
The water level has stopped rising, and shoreline has locked up well. We meassured a solid 7 inches of ice out in front of us, on the "wide" end of the Lake. With very little snow on the ice, these freezing temperatures will continue to add ice fast. Be careful of pressure ridges, and areas of current as the ice may not be as thick in some areas. Be safe everyone. Will update when able again, if there are any changes in the future.
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Thanks for the post Chapmans it helps to know since I travel from ontario ny.
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whats up ?nobody out there fishing@ and not telling any stories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!how much snow did u get be there in a couple days need to know what machine
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Lmao, you must not be holding yr mouth open just right, we catch walleye all the time on Black Lake...lets not forget the crappie, blue gill, perch, bass, muskie..and those dang pesky pike...
I was not talking about me ;) @) ;D
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whats up ?nobody out there fishing@ and not telling any stories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!how much snow did u get be there in a couple days need to know what machine
No snow to a dusting! Lots of cold - bring what ever machine you like. You will likely be competing with pickup trucks. :woot:
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I got -14 at 5 this morning, no snow on the bare ice - the ice machine is at work full time right now. I was on the lake last night and ice was from 9 to 13". We will be good to go for a while. After this cold snap I think we will be looking at more than 18" of the hard stuff.
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I got -14 at 5 this morning, no snow on the bare ice - the ice machine is at work full time right now. I was on the lake last night and ice was from 9 to 13". We will be good to go for a while. After this cold snap I think we will be looking at more than 18" of the hard stuff.
Great news Phil...see you Saturday! ;D ;)
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great to hear you didnt get that much snow we will be there sun to tues game on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great news Phil...see you Saturday! ;D ;)
Regrettably, I will not be fishing Saturday. Fish & Game Club Derby and I'm one of the key workers! Stop by the clubhouse and say hi, if you get any time. Weather is looking good.
I'll be out Sunday, for sure. Got to get my trailer back in order - been hollering at myself for 3 days - had a flat Friday AM, went to change it and stripped one the lugnuts. That put my trailer and wheeler on hold for a while. Parts are here today. Man, if only I had done that maintenance I intended on doing this past summer! :%$#!: Will NOT happen again - @)
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It's always something...well I hope you get it all fixed up...
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hey fish4pike were do you normally fish on the lake?we will be on mile arm
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Uuhh oohh!!!! Hunts back on the move. The fishies won't be safe anymore. :o good to hear your back at it Hunt!! :tipup:
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Uuhh oohh!!!! Hunts back on the move. The fishies won't be safe anymore. :o good to hear your back at it Hunt!! :tipup:
First attempt...gotta still be careful...I have some new gear sitting here that is rotting...I need to break it all in...I'm thinking a little short try this afternoon local...then Saturday I need to put some time in... :)
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First attempt...gotta still be careful...I have some new gear sitting here that is rotting...I need to break it all in...I'm thinking a little short try this afternoon local...then Saturday I need to put some time in... :)
hey buddy if your stuff needs airing out or breaking in I would be glad to help ;D
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Can any verify if this was caught on Black Lake.
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Can any verify if this was caught on Black Lake.
From the background, I would say - yes. I could prolly walk/drive right to the spot he is standing on. Nice catch.
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What a hog, nice catch!!
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Nice fish!! Cant say much for the handling but I hope she still swims, what a beast.
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I thought I posted this Monday but I'll try again. We stayed at the cabin on Milearm Thurs through Sun, and fished Fri and Sat. Limits and then some of Crappie both days. Biggest was 14" and average was 11". Definitely bigger size class than last few years. Even got a hawk perch 11 1/2". I let her go as there aren't too many of that size in the lake. Tip ups for me produced 5 pike and 3 bass. Biggest pike was 28", and biggest bass was 3 1/2 lbs smallie. Lost a couple real nice pike. Saw a few buddies from back home camping out on the ice (crazy cuz it was only 3 degrees on Thurs night) they did well too. Hoping to get back up there at least once more this year.
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hey buddy if your stuff needs airing out or breaking in I would be glad to help ;D
of course you would :P
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Can any verify if this was caught on Black Lake.
dang thats a nice fish
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nice fish BR 716
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Looking to day trip the lake on sat for perch, pike, and eyes if possible. Pm me if you are willing to show me around a bit. I am a walker so nothing over half mile would good. baits on me.
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Update on ice thickness...there is up to 10 inches of ice currently measured out in front of us (wide part of the lake). Watch out for areas of current and pressure ridges. Shore ice currently looks strong. Freezing temperatures are making ice rapidly. Be safe everyone. :)
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hey buddy if your stuff needs airing out or breaking in I would be glad to help ;D
Thanks F&R...I did a short trip yesterday and it all worked pretty good, I love the new reel for sure...
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Good job Chris, going back up in Feb.?
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Glad to see some fish photos from the Bay :thumbsup: I'm hoping to get up to my place in the next few weeks to release my winter blues :icefish:
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Heading up to Black this morning for the first time with some friends from Buffalo. Will be saying @ Black Lake Marine Cottages, looking for callies and pike..would be great to meet up with any IS members and shoot the stuff...I have one question..is our best bet to stay near our spot at the cottage,Upper Big Bay area, or venture down to Mile Arm Bay and the southern part of the lake? Hope to meet some of you out there! Ill be in a big Otter, a Frabill hub, or right out in the open!!
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I don't know about the accomodations at Black Lake Marine but why not stay right where you can fish? Bring whatever you need and not have to drive all weekend.
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A friend rented the cottage @ BLM..Sothats where we will be..just wondering about my chances, and also ice access and how long of a drive from our cottage is Mile Arm
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A friend rented the cottage @ BLM..Sothats where we will be..just wondering about my chances, and also ice access and how long of a drive from our cottage is Mile Arm
Check out a google map - prolly near 20 miles, maybe a few less. Do you have access to Mile Arm? Access to the ice at BLM is good and the pike and crappie fishing in that area can be good. Ice conditions are good enough to cross the lake now and the fishing can be good in the bay across from BLM.
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Thanks Phil! Will you be out around that area this weekend?
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Thanks Phil! Will you be out around that area this weekend?
PM sent. I will be working a fishing derby Saturday. You should get in it. You can sign up at BLM. Good causes and lots of door prizes.
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coming up from buffalo need a ice report thanks, and the best area to get on the ice.
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coming up from buffalo need a ice report thanks, and the best area to get on the ice.
12" plus. Shore may get a bit trickey because the water is on the rise. No big deal. Where you get on depends on if you have ice transportation or how far you want to walk and what kind(s) of fishing oyu do. One of the best spots is Rollaway Bay (public access)
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Hey phil. Did you guys get any snow up that way? Need to decide whether to bring a snowmobile or the 4 wheeler. Thanks :tipup:
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Doesn't look like they got any snow... ;D
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Ok good. Thank you!
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Hey phil. Did you guys get any snow up that way? Need to decide whether to bring a snowmobile or the 4 wheeler. Thanks :tipup:
A little dust. Ice will be "slick".
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Fishforpike. Thanks for the help will def. be making the trip
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is there any address near by mile arm bay or rollaway bay that i could put in my gps that any of you are aware of? im coming to ice fish black lake for the first time next weekend and it would be good to have an idea of where to go so im not wasting good fishing time driving around. thanks in advance for the help.
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Idk about Rollaway, i would just google it. As for Mile Arm, it's all private access unless you have a camp or have a friend with a camp i would stick to Rollaway Bay. You can always talk to Chapman's for more specific advise
CHAPMAN'S SPORT SHOP
2420 COUNTY ROUTE 6 HAMMOND NY 13646
(315) 324-5265
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thank you! i cant wait to get out there
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There once was a day you could ice fish sections of black lake on a weekend and see only a few santies here and there. Very few on a week day. I hate to drive by and see the mess on rollaway every weekend....should it bother me?, no. does it?, yes. Good for the folks at chapmans I suppose. With that said...another advantage of being local is having access to other areas of the north country that are not as known so much to others. Good luck this weekend north countriers, I'll be somewhere away from the crowd and Hopefully hammering them!
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is there any address near by mile arm bay or rollaway bay that i could put in my gps that any of you are aware of? im coming to ice fish black lake for the first time next weekend and it would be good to have an idea of where to go so im not wasting good fishing time driving around. thanks in advance for the help.
I've posted this map (https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=215785491095890530094.00046e5ebbda7c6676fb4&msa=0&ll=44.499934,-75.576324&spn=0.282585,0.689392), many times -
Just zoom in and look around - all the info you are looking for is there.
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I've posted this map (https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=215785491095890530094.00046e5ebbda7c6676fb4&msa=0&ll=44.499934,-75.576324&spn=0.282585,0.689392), many times -
Just zoom in and look around - all the info you are looking for is there.
what a great map. i guess i didnt search enough. thanks
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Does anyone fish lonesome bay through the ice? Im sure this is a silly question but i dont hear much about it on here and its the only place I have ever fished on black lake and it was in a boat in the spring. Just asking out of curiosity because i remember doing quite well there. I have a place to camp for free up there just no where to stay for ice fishing. Thanks in advance
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Does anyone fish lonesome bay through the ice? Im sure this is a silly question but i dont hear much about it on here and its the only place I have ever fished on black lake and it was in a boat in the spring. Just asking out of curiosity because i remember doing quite well there. I have a place to camp for free up there just no where to stay for ice fishing. Thanks in advance
You mean "dead" bay. :woot: Seems that way in the winter.
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the crew calls it shiner bay every spring. bait fish everywhere and easy to catch too @).bullheads and a few crappies mixed in to.
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Does anyone fish lonesome bay through the ice? Im sure this is a silly question but i dont hear much about it on here and its the only place I have ever fished on black lake and it was in a boat in the spring. Just asking out of curiosity because i remember doing quite well there. I have a place to camp for free up there just no where to stay for ice fishing. Thanks in advance
Fished all around it two weeks ago and nothing but a few tiny perch. Was very disappointing.
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heading there tuesday how much snow did u guys get and is shore ice all good???
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heading there tuesday how much snow did u guys get and is shore ice all good???
Shore ice is good in most places. Very little snow ;D
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thanks 4 the update fish4pike maybe well se u out there on tues i think were gonna set up out to the left of mile arm in the walleye grounds between the island and shore
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Anyone fishing the lake tommorrow?
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Well I fished yesterday since no one else did. Very few people out which was surprising. Caught a ton of crappie throughout the day, all small with alot of 8 inchers. One flag all day...guess it was just the day. Drilled ALOT of holes for the little bit I came home with. With all the good luck I've had on black, I will take a slow day. Lots of ice with solid shore lines. Let hope this coming snow blows off and doesn't make a mess of the place.
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Hows the fishn been at black lake.....comn up end of month for week. Any word on walleye
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You have to be more specific, there are members from all over the world on here. It helps if you put your location on your profile (the moderators are big on this).
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Go down to the ny board there's lots of info there
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Be careful going to black lake.... there are people that are know as the Amish that are rude
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Black lake ny
http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=234213.0 (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=234213.0)
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Be careful going to black lake.... there are people that are know as the Amish that are rude
YES they can be but so can people on here ;D ;D i knew where u meant and by the looks of it u do have your location list so whatever...had an experiance this week with a rude Amish dude on Silver Lake NY just to claify the location for some..real tool the guy was as some who complain about new people and how they post..so sorry we new people to the site take a few post to catch on..i bet u all read the instructions before u do something.. NOT.. some need to ease up and give people a chance to catch on or maybe u should start a site for "PERFECT" people :thumbsup: be pretty lonely talking to yrself .... just saying hope i didnt offend u perfect people but we all know really what u r perfect at being by how u treat new people
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fished yesterday good fishing as usual lot of sm crapps but plenty of gd keepers and i landed a big northern battled it 4 at least 20 mins 2 pd test probablly 38 inches got to change my line on that reel he tweeked it
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Be careful going to black lake.... there are people that are know as the Amish that are rude
You need a little more experience with the Amish. They are not really any different than other folks - there are rude individuals from every walk and corner of life. As a rule, I've found the Amish to be friendly and non-confrontational. And I've been around them since their arrival in the north country.
Anyways - to answer your post, Shannon, the fishing has been good for me and several others on Black Lake. Hope you have good luck and a good time. Don't bet on walleye, they can be difficult to find.
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Ditto what Fishforpike said about the Amish. I know alot of them and for the most part they are congenial, curteous and friendly.
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how much snow did u guys get????wanting to go again next week!!!!
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I am thinking about taking a 2 or 3 day trip to black lake. Does anyone have any recommendations on a place to stay? And where i can find some good pike/panfishing? thanks
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Many people have told me that Butternut Cove has winter accommodations. I've owned a place on the lake since 1981 and have befriended several Amish families and they are honest hard working and abide by rules and regulations. I loan a couple of the men a row boat I have at my cottage to get off shore and catch a meal for their large families. I've also been told by them don't give any other Amish permission or you will have horse **** all up and down your driveway. What you might have ran into is the areas I ice fish there are holes in the weeds and if you're not in one of them you will only get dink perch hence everyone will move towards those guy pulling up keepers and some people find that rude if you were the first one there. Look at the ice in that area and see how many and how close the holes are drilled.
So if I'm reading this correctly, you let this amish family use your boat out of your kindness, and then they tell you to not let any other amish use it or else they'll have their horse crap all over your driveway?? I really hope I misunderstood you, or else they don't sound very friendly to me at all.. maybe that "Amish Mafia" show isn't all the BS I just assumed it was! :o
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So if I'm reading this correctly, you let this amish family use your boat out of your kindness, and then they tell you to not let any other amish use it or else they'll have their horse crap all over your driveway?? I really hope I misunderstood you, or else they don't sound very friendly to me at all.. maybe that "Amish Mafia" show isn't all the BS I just assumed it was! :o
I kinda read it the same way. Kinda weird
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Are they still driving trucks on mile arm?
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Are they still driving trucks on mile arm?
Have not been up that way, but if the snow there is like the rest of the lake - then no normal pickup truck is going out. Maybe if someone plowed it out. @)
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Once you get to know the Amish you will find out they are very competitive and if they think one of there piers are getting an advantage by bending their rules they will rat him out to their bishop. Now a days with all the new technology the bishop has to rule on the use of many things such as battery operated power drivers, that's a no no. Yet they are allowed to use battery operated flash lights as long as there are only 2 batteries and no more. I've chatted with one of the teenage girls and she made a statement that anytime something comes along that will make our job and life easier they ban it. Sprinklers are not allowed you have lots of kids and they can stand there and hold a hose. You would shake you head when you hear some of the rules. So when I lend my boat to one of them they are paranoid that other Amish that aren't getting that favor will rat on them and tell the Bishop and it will be disallowed thus that's why they tell me not to give permission to other Amish. The old rule "if I can't have it then no one else is!" They love gossip and the first thing they read in the paper if they obtain one is police blotter to see if any of their community has got nailed, news travels fast in their comunity.
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The whole Amish thing baffles me. I saw a buggy in Watertown pulling into a McDonalds. So cars......BAD..... Big Mac and fries .......OK?????
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i seen an amish girl at a gas station on chautauqua lake reach into her purse and pull out an iphone. haahah then the other family on my buddies road pull out the bobcat in the morning to help do chores while there generator runs all the lights and milking equipment. 95% of amish are fakes.
I was talking to one by my cabin in cattaraugus county (more strick old order amish)and he said there are hundreds of types of amish and he only considers a handful really amish.
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It's a very fascinating culture and there are many different sec's. Most of the ones at Black lake are Old School which is the strictest trying to conform to the old rules. I've been to the Jamestown area and there they have batteries in the buggies to power lights and solar Chargers for them. They call anyone not Amish English and they do like to have a few of as friends as they can ride in a car for medical reasons and I do pick up bulk supplies from Sam's club for them, but they make sure they tell you only if your going there for something for yourself.
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anyways....back to business. How has the Crappy bite been?
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anyways....back to business. How has the Crappy bite been?
I know a few guys that have been getting into them on a regular basis- like, limits in half a day. I also know a few guys that "think" Black Lake is "dead" ;D
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ya black lake is dead ;). hopefully will get another trip in
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My pal Fish2163 and I are heading this way on the weekend. We will be fishing Sunday and Monday, this will be our first time there and any info will be cool.
I see that the lake has a lot to offer and has a wide selection of fish to target. Wouldn't mind hooking into a monster of a fish, but for the most part we only fish the pans. Is there a good spot to start looking for the monsters while catching their food?
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Two things I know from 15 yrs fishing black lake. I never go fishing there without catching at least one pike, and the crappies are always biting somewhere.
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Attention members!
anymore Amish bashing will result in your account being moderated and/or banned. There is no need for that kind of stuff on this site!
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Thank You Mr. Mod.
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or lebenon levi will be in town lol
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I've looked back through about 15-20 pages and haven't found this question answered, and the search function won't work on my phone, so if this has already been asked I apologize.
Some friends of mine and I have been discussing taking a trip up there fishing this winter. I've never been on hard water up there and was wondering if there were any areas we should be cautious about. We usually gain access at the end of the stone church road, and my friends family has a cabin on the opposite side (whiskey pt area?). Any input or decent fishing spots in that area would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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I will be heading out next weekend had a good time last year but didnt catch many keepers herd alot of good things about mile arm wondering what the best way to get there is cant get conditions yet so asking for little help thanks
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I've looked back through about 15-20 pages and haven't found this question answered, and the search function won't work on my phone, so if this has already been asked I apologize.
Some friends of mine and I have been discussing taking a trip up there fishing this winter. I've never been on hard water up there and was wondering if there were any areas we should be cautious about. We usually gain access at the end of the stone church road, and my friends family has a cabin on the opposite side (whiskey pt area?). Any input or decent fishing spots in that area would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
Well - do not get on at that area of the lake. Driving by today - there were MANY open water areas.
The upper area of the lake - above Edwardsville is pretty good going with some slush and over 12" of ice most every where. Stay away from pressure ridges. The area below Edwardsville - around the bait shop there is also good.
Good luck.
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I will be heading out next weekend had a good time last year but didnt catch many keepers herd alot of good things about mile arm wondering what the best way to get there is cant get conditions yet so asking for little help thanks
Im heading back up to black lake this weekend...always had luck with quality crappies...a favorite spot is rollway bay....good luck tight lines
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I will be heading out next weekend had a good time last year but didnt catch many keepers herd alot of good things about mile arm wondering what the best way to get there is cant get conditions yet so asking for little help thanks
i fished mile arm and rollway this year and did good at both. Im my opinion your not gaining anything by the extra walk or ride to mile arm. its a sweet place but we did just as good or better at rollway. im sure rollway gets more pressure but i don't know how much the entire lake gets all together anyways.
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Was on my way out the driveway and gonna head to Chaumont Bay -- BUT! -- Driving by the lake, the Black Lake Goddess called to me, again. ;D
Got this healthy 20" male walleye - came home with me - all others went back to the water. Could have kept a limit of nice, 12"+ crappies.
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Way to go Phil... Nice job.. Love that reel... The handle is on the proper side...... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Was on my way out the driveway and gonna head to Chaumont Bay -- BUT! -- Driving by the lake, the Black Lake Goddess called to me, again. ;D
Got this healthy 20" male walleye - came home with me - all others went back to the water. Could have kept a limit of nice, 12"+ crappies.
:thumbsup: Good job Phil !! :icefish:
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Way to go Phil... Nice job.. Love that reel... The handle is on the proper side...... ;D ;D ;D ;D
i was just going to say that. we all told Huntny30 that he needs to fix his reels ::) ::) ::) Nice looking fish Phil. you coming down to oneida this year or what ???
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i was just going to say that. we all told Huntny30 that he needs to fix his reels ::) ::) ::) Nice looking fish Phil. you coming down to oneida this year or what ???
Yeh - I'm working on a trip there. It's tough to leave this fishing though. ;D The reel is the best - and I agree - the handle IS on the righ***, um I mean proper side ;D
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I've looked back through about 15-20 pages and haven't found this question answered, and the search function won't work on my phone, so if this has already been asked I apologize.
Some friends of mine and I have been discussing taking a trip up there fishing this winter. I've never been on hard water up there and was wondering if there were any areas we should be cautious about. We usually gain access at the end of the stone church road, and my friends family has a cabin on the opposite side (whiskey pt area?). Any input or decent fishing spots in that area would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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Back out today--
Buddy got his limit of nice eyes today and I capitalized on a few nice crappies, I could not "buy" an eye today. :-\
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You are En - Fuego ;D
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looking to take a 3hour trip to black lake next week was wondering where to get on the ice? was up there a few years ago with my buddy who owned a house on mile arm but I'm pretty sure that is private access any help greatly appreciated thanks
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Nice Walleyes did you catch them at mile arm bay?
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Nice Walleyes did you catch them at mile arm bay?
@) ;D :icefish: :icefish: No "spots" give away here - sorry. I will say that everything we catch is with a jig-pole, using lures, and no bait.
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Any new reports??
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Any new reports??
What kind of reports do you want? Fishing is good, depending on where and when you go. Ice is good at over 18" and very little snow on top.
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fished saturday at black lake , 16-18" ice , me and my buddy got 7 notherns 2 were 20" and a few were 25-29"
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So who's ready for some early black lake fishing
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So who's ready for some early black lake fishing
Might be able to get on some of the protected bays by the weekend. @) All the snow we got slushed up good and will freeze solid to night and with the sub-zero weather forecast here for Friday night - OO -- OOO - :icefish: :icefish: :flex: :flex: :thumbsup:
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The webcams were a beautiful thing today. ;D
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thanks for the up date FFP
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Has anyone been fishing? Specifically near my camp by Black Lake Marine?
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Has anyone been fishing? Specifically near my camp by Black Lake Marine?
That area's being hit pretty hard. Was the first fishable ice of the season - folks on there December 1st and right on through. Crappie bite, a couple of weeks ago was great - it has fallen off some. Still one of the best areas to get decent crappie and decent pike; just have to find them.
Which camp is yours?
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I own the white trailer between the house for sale and Walters camps. This will be are 3rd winter. I usually can't get up there until mid January. due to the kids playing soccer. I got a bunch of guys coming up from Buffalo january 17-19. Stop by for some pops!
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Sweet, how big were the walleye? I still have caught any eyes up there yet. Can't wait to get up there.
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7.5 inches of solid ice on milearm as of this am...good all the way to the first island..bite is slow, few pike, cple walleye, really slow crappie and gill action...
Thanks for the report SIlvrbck.
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I cant wait to start ice fishing this year , last year was my first year going and I loved it , I am from Ogdensburg.
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I cant wait to start ice fishing this year , last year was my first year going and I loved it , I am from Ogdensburg.
Glad to hear that!!!! Good luck and be safe this season :icefish:
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cant wait for oneida to freeze you guys are lucky
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This is my second year ice fishing and I am addicted. Wish I tried this ten years ago. Anyhow I have never fished black lake but I was told it is a good place for early ice. Can anyone tell me the ice conditions?
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This is my second year ice fishing and I am addicted. Wish I tried this ten years ago. Anyhow I have never fished black lake but I was told it is a good place for early ice. Can anyone tell me the ice conditions?
They are a few posts above yours! ::)
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This is my second year ice fishing and I am addicted. Wish I tried this ten years ago. Anyhow I have never fished black lake but I was told it is a good place for early ice. Can anyone tell me the ice conditions?
They are also on the Reports and Conditions board.
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Facciolo - couple more posts and you can get to the Reports and Conditions Boards and there is a lot of current info posted there.
Reports are indicating 9" of ice on the lake.
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Anyone heading out tomorrow on the lake?
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Anyone heading out tomorrow on the lake?
Yes, I will be on mile arm. ;D
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I was hoping to get up there to check on my camp and some fishing, but I can't seem to get my permission slip signed!
I'm only an hour away in Lowville, NY but with 3 kids and a wife who is a music teacher my weekends are booked. Hopefully in January things will open up. My camp is two doors down from black lake marine. When im up there you iceaholics should/can stop by for some pops!
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is the lake frozen over??
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is the lake frozen over??
Really ???
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is the lake frozen over??
Haha
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That's a good one.
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Heading up Friday early AM. Would like to try Milearm Bay ,if I get the old sled running ???? Heard there was some heavy snow on the ice 8-9 in. ??? How's the walking if I have to go that route ??
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Fished off Rollaway yesterday. About 6-7 inches of light snow on the ice. Just enough to make a heavy sled full of gear heavier. Good ice though- a solid 8 inches. Fish were slow on the bite but I was still able to get a few keeper perch/crappie and a couple small northern. Got the kinks out, scratched the itch, and nothing broke for a change. Not a bad day for the first trip of the season even if it was -5 most of the day.
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Forgot to mention- to the SOB's that left their garbage on the ice- pick your stuff up you lazy slobs. Really, this is how we are going to start out the season? Show some respect for what we have. If you want to be a scum bag then stay home. Your not welcome here. I'll be sure to back my truck up to your front lawn and dump off my garbage. Then maybe you will get the point. >:(
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im wonderring if anyone has taken machines on the ice from rollaway. I was there last saturday and measured 8 inches of ice but i saw no machines. It was an easy drag then but it sounds like there is some snow on the ice now.
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I was on the main lake today with my wheeler and flip shelter (now my wheeler is big, and loaded it's near 1000lbs.; more with me on it :woot:). Crossed the lake from Chapmans to Raspberry Island and down to behind Crab Island.
No guesstimates - Stanley says 8" of black Ice with about 6-8" of drifted snow - pressure ridges were small and tough to see but they are there and working and wet, (slushy). Hopefully, the next two days, being in the upper 30s with some rain will lay that snow down.
Going out of Rollaway with a machine should be no problem. I'd say the drag, by foot, would be just that; a real drag. Smitty sled would do wonders right now for those that walk.
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I am tired of the littering on the lake also, my kids and I will clean up under the bridge from time to time its unbelievable the amount of trash we police up. During ice fishing its a mess in front of our camp, cigarette butts, maggot containers, beer cans, etc. I'm right with you fishforpike. You bring it on take it off!
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Can't wait to try black lake tomorrow and test my new lx 7, how has the bite been?
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Can't wait to try black lake tomorrow and test my new lx 7, how has the bite been?
You will like the "7". The bite has been on and off - more off than on, at least for me.
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Hows the fishing? never fished this lake gonna try tomorrow any ideas on a good spot to try.
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4 of us went to black lake today behind the bait shop. got 5 keeper northerns between us , and the jigging bite was not very good , lots of very small perch . still had a good time tho. 8" there
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where is the bait shop loacted? heard of people getting into the crappie pretty good does any one know where there getting them
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Hows the fishing? never fished this lake gonna try tomorrow any ideas on a good spot to try.
Out from the Black lake Marine Bait Store is probably the best (size-wise) crappie fishing on the lake. BUT - you gotta find a "spot". If you are catching perch - not in one of the "spots". If you bang bottom - Pike or Bowfin on your jig is likely.
There are about 6 "spots" out there and they get taken up early, most days. The spots have no weeds and are 12 to 18" deeper than the surrounding area. "Needles in a haystack" if you will.
Rollaway Bay can be more productive with Gills and smaller crappie and a possibility for an odd Walleye.
Good luck.
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Great report Phil. And guys just read back a few pages before you ask ridiculous questions...
On a side note...On Sunday me and jakep let two guys borrow a pair or spreaders that were pike fishing. When we came back later in the day there was Gatorade bottles and coffee cups and all sorts of crap laying in the spot where they were fishing earlier. If one of you guys are here on the website you should be ashamed of yourselves. I would have wrapped them spreaders around your damn heads if I seen you guys high tailing out of there leaving that mess on the ice. We stopped and cleaned it up. But even for all the other guys to walk past it and leave it there is just as bad. Come on guys really ???
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I was there today and landed 22 perch (1 of which was a extra jumbo) and a big largemouth, first time on the lake had a good time and all fish were released.
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Great report Phil. And guys just read back a few pages before you ask ridiculous questions...
On a side note...On Sunday me and jakep let two guys borrow a pair or spreaders that were pike fishing. When we came back later in the day there was Gatorade bottles and coffee cups and all sorts of crap laying in the spot where they were fishing earlier. If one of you guys are here on the website you should be ashamed of yourselves. I would have wrapped them spreaders around your damn heads if I seen you guys high tailing out of there leaving that mess on the ice. We stopped and cleaned it up. But even for all the other guys to walk past it and leave it there is just as bad. Come on guys really ???
I agree PICK UP WHAT YOU TAKE OUT hinkydo
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hey catch :thumbsup: good man
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I agree PICK UP WHAT YOU TAKE OUT hinkydo
Unfortunately the scumbags that leave trash on the ice are unlikely to be shanty members. The ice shanty community is hopefully the example setters for how to be caretakers for the Earth, the Earth that gives us the ability to partake in this activity that we love so much. It is a sad fact that we are the environmental police. Without consequences this type of behavior will continue. Thank you guys for picking up the trash, I hate it soooooo much it makes me outraged....I fished a place this year and ran into guys that said "hey, there are our beer cans from yesterday" and all they did was laugh, guess who picked them up?? :callcops:
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Great report Phil. And guys just read back a few pages before you ask ridiculous questions...
On a side note...On Sunday me and jakep let two guys borrow a pair or spreaders that were pike fishing. When we came back later in the day there was Gatorade bottles and coffee cups and all sorts of crap laying in the spot where they were fishing earlier. If one of you guys are here on the website you should be ashamed of yourselves. I would have wrapped them spreaders around your damn heads if I seen you guys high tailing out of there leaving that mess on the ice. We stopped and cleaned it up. But even for all the other guys to walk past it and leave it there is just as bad. Come on guys really ???
Thanks for cleaning up Chief, stand up move...
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freezing rain here all night last night and all day today , just walking out back 25 yards to get firewood tonight sucks , falling through the ice covered snow every now and then , black lake is only 8 miles from here so its gonna be a tough go for a while im afraid :(
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Is there an area of the lake that is better for walleyes than other parts? I'm thinking about doing an over nighter?
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Thanks for stepping up Chief and cleaning up the scumbags garbage. I too picked up the garbage I complained about. It took me all of about one minute. Just shows you how lazy these people are. I wish more of them would get caught and hit with a good fine to wake em' up.
On a side note...On Sunday me and jakep let two guys borrow a pair or spreaders that were pike fishing. When we came back later in the day there was Gatorade bottles and coffee cups and all sorts of crap laying in the spot where they were fishing earlier. If one of you guys are here on the website you should be ashamed of yourselves. I would have wrapped them spreaders around your damn heads if I seen you guys high tailing out of there leaving that mess on the ice. We stopped and cleaned it up. But even for all the other guys to walk past it and leave it there is just as bad. Come on guys really ???
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Is there an area of the lake that is better for walleyes than other parts? I'm thinking about doing an over nighter?
Good luck on that. Walleyes in Black Lake are pretty tough to find, in numbers; sometimes pretty tough to find at all. ;)2
Not sure where to send you - I know of a few that have been caught out of Rollaway Bay, but they were oddball catches while targeting Pike on tipups or jigging for Crappie.
I been searching that lake for a number years and have a very few spots, not going to give them up.
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i got one at milarm but only one ,that was a few years ago
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Thx. For picking up the trash because whatever doesn't get picked up we find while swimming or it floats to my shore line. If you really want to see a mess go under the bridge come August and it looks like blue worm buckets are growing there! My trailer is two doors down from blk lake marine and we get tons of trash there.
As far as walleye good luck.
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its very simple just like the signs say........if you bring it in take back with you ??? of course people dont. cant fix stupid. end of story :(
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Stupid is as stupid does
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was wandering how the ice is after this warm up
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was wandering how the ice is after this warm up
Please this thread - there has been NO warm up here! And I see you are new, after you post a few times you can get to the Reports and Conditions Boards. Lots of info there. ;D
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I opted not to head up into the freezing rain this weekend. :-\ It was a hard not to go but I think I made the right decision. But... I'm thinking this weekend it's on... and I'll hopefully have some new ice gear after Chrtistmas.
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Hey guys quick ????...no ice here in Monroe county so I am thinking about taking the ride up north to black lake after I recently fell in love with some of the Indian river lakes that seem pretty similar to black. I just recently purchased a used 4 wheeler, was just wondering on how strict they are up there about having it registered while on the ice. What do you guys think??? Register before I go, or don't worry about it?
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State law requires registration if not used on your own property.
........just sayin'.........
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Hey guys quick ????...no ice here in Monroe county so I am thinking about taking the ride up north to black lake after I recently fell in love with some of the Indian river lakes that seem pretty similar to black. I just recently purchased a used 4 wheeler, was just wondering on how strict they are up there about having it registered while on the ice. What do you guys think??? Register before I go, or don't worry about it?
Make it legal then you don't have to worry
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I opted not to head up into the freezing rain this weekend. :-\ It was a hard not to go but I think I made the right decision. But... I'm thinking this weekend it's on... and I'll hopefully have some new ice gear after Chrtistmas.
Good choice...
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I think it is around 15 bucks.....your gonna spend 3 times that in gas to get up there......get it registered...why would you post this on the internet ???
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I think it is around 15 bucks.....your gonna spend 3 times that in gas to get up there......get it registered...why would you post this on the internet ???
At least we know where the DEC will be this weekend
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I think it is around 15 bucks.....your gonna spend 3 times that in gas to get up there......get it registered...why would you post this on the internet ???
$12.50 to be exact.....at least thats what mine cost...
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I opted not to head up into the freezing rain this weekend. :-\ It was a hard not to go but I think I made the right decision. But... I'm thinking this weekend it's on... and I'll hopefully have some new ice gear after Chrtistmas.
;)
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do you need to insure them?
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Trap - yes, if your not on your own property.
Minimum required coverage is $50,000/$100,000 for death, $25,000/$50,000 for injury, and $10,000 for property damage in any one accident
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I was just inquiring cause its my first wheeler so I wasn't too sure that's why I posted it...thanks guys for the info will get it legal first. Was this post internet approved sir?
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i'm Rick Trapper and i have approved of this post!
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Thanks rick!!! I'm pretty excited to try it out on the ice and also to fish black lake for the first time! This is the first year I have a wheeler and a shanty so I should be all set!
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good luck steve and play safe
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Trap - yes, if your not on your own property.
Minimum required coverage is $50,000/$100,000 for death, $25,000/$50,000 for injury, and $10,000 for property damage in any one accident
That's not quite right either. Riding on yuor own property does not abstain you fro registration and other requirements. Think it has to be "farm use".
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Hey guys quick ????...no ice here in Monroe county so I am thinking about taking the ride up north to black lake after I recently fell in love with some of the Indian river lakes that seem pretty similar to black. I just recently purchased a used 4 wheeler, was just wondering on how strict they are up there about having it registered while on the ice. What do you guys think??? Register before I go, or don't worry about it?
If you get checked by an ECO, you will get ticketed for any and all violations. Registration, insurance, helment, lights, etc., etc., etc.
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i been thinking about giving in and getting one for trapping hunting and ice fishing .....
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you can ride on your own property without reg or insurance,. dont even need a helmet on your own land
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you can ride on your own property without reg or insurance,. dont even need a helmet on your own land
Sorry - you are 100 percent wrong and passing on information that is incorrect.
Read on:
http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/Themes/IceShanty2011/images/bbc/url.gif (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/Themes/IceShanty2011/images/bbc/url.gif)
It's not the entire regulation but you will get the "gist" of it.
For all you guys asking questions - you should get your answers from some source of law enforcement.
It's fine if you do not want to acknowledge the regulations; just don't pass on that bad knowledge. ;)
Been doing ATV instruction in NY, for the ASI, for several years.
So if after reading the document listed above, you still want to declare an exemption from the registration, that's fine, but that exemption is specific and does not allow for recreational riding of any kind, anywhere. Not going to argue the helmet thing - that's just plain common sense. Don't care about the legality of it and don't care if you wear one.
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Thank you Phil, I was just looking for that..
Don't get hurt on "your own land" with an unregistered wheeler and call an ambulance. You will get a ticket....
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hey who the @#&% is going to buy a 4 wheeler and just ride on their own property anyways?????
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Hoping someone can inform me on the atv registration laws. I am from PA my atv is insured and has current PA registration I will be Coming up to black lake in a few weeks. I cant seem to find a definitive answer on weather I need to also have it registered in NY like a snowmobile. Or if it is like a boat or vehicle which is good as long it is up to date here in PA. I come up every summer and asked around this year but no one was sure of it. Any info would be appreciated.
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Hey guys I'm usually a sandy pond fisherman but I'm looking to head up to black lake to check it out with my dad. Any suggestions on parking and where to go out from? Should I bring my snowmobile? I'm not looking for your secret spots I just wanna get out and do some jiggin. Thanks
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Hoping someone can inform me on the atv registration laws. I am from PA my atv is insured and has current PA registration I will be Coming up to black lake in a few weeks. I cant seem to find a definitive answer on weather I need to also have it registered in NY like a snowmobile. Or if it is like a boat or vehicle which is good as long it is up to date here in PA. I come up every summer and asked around this year but no one was sure of it. Any info would be appreciated.
Try searching on here or calling them...
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They will ticket you on Indian River lake if not licensed
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Hoping someone can inform me on the atv registration laws. I am from PA my atv is insured and has current PA registration I will be Coming up to black lake in a few weeks. I cant seem to find a definitive answer on weather I need to also have it registered in NY like a snowmobile. Or if it is like a boat or vehicle which is good as long it is up to date here in PA. I come up every summer and asked around this year but no one was sure of it. Any info would be appreciated.
because you are seeking GOOD advice my suggestion is to contact the NYDMV tht way you will be sure to gt correct and updated information .... then again i can make up some really good storys and i am french model ....bon jour
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http://www.dmv.ny.gov/ (http://www.dmv.ny.gov/)
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Hey guys I'm usually a sandy pond fisherman but I'm looking to head up to black lake to check it out with my dad. Any suggestions on parking and where to go out from? Should I bring my snowmobile? I'm not looking for your secret spots I just wanna get out and do some jiggin. Thanks
Check out this MAP (https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=215785491095890530094.00046e5ebbda7c6676fb4&msa=0)
Look for Rollaway Bay. There is information on the map about parking in the few areas that have public access. Also, if you get a Fishing Hotspots Map for Black Lake, you can get some ideas of this lake is like and some ideas of where to go. If you have a sled or properly equipped wheeler, you can get most anywhere.
After all that, PM me, and I can give you some ideas for the area(s) you choose. @)
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just a reminder to all that park at rollaway try and keep noise down due to people living right there , I spoke to someone last year about hollering , ,some of the parking is on the road side next to peoples houses , thanks
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just a reminder to all that park at rollaway try and keep noise down due to people living right there , I spoke to someone last year about hollering , ,some of the parking is on the road side next to peoples houses , thanks
Thanks Filet - I'll add that note to the map information. ;)2
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Thanks for the responses guys. i was able to find it on NYSORVA website.
11. Exemption. No registrations shall be required for the following
described ATVs:
(a) ATVs owned and used by the United States, another state, or a
political subdivision thereof, but such ATV shall display the name of
the owner on the vehicle thereof.
(b) ATVs covered by a valid registration or license of another state,
province or country, as provided in subdivision twelve of this section.
12. Out of state ATV registration. The registration provisions of this
article shall not apply to non-resident owners who have registered their
ATVs in compliance with the registration and licensing laws of the
state, province, district or country of residence, provided that the ATV
is appropriately identified in accordance with the laws of the state of
residence. The provisions of this subdivision shall not apply to a resi-
dent of another state, province, district or country which does not have
an ATV registration and identification law. Nothing in this subdivision
shall be construed to authorize the operation of any ATV contrary to the
provisions of this article.
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Now back to the fishing topic. what Bait Shops do you guys use?
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Look at the map. ;D There are two of them on the lake. Maybe a third - off Rt. 58 near Rollaway. I'll see if I can get it on the map.
By The Way, here is another MAP (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kw92o3LaOHaE8yNXhUSDMyd3M/edit?usp=sharing)of the lake showing bottom topology.
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ATVs
Does an all-terrain vehicle (ATV) require a vehicle registration?
An all-terrain vehicle (ATV) is any self-propelled vehicle that is manufactured for use on off-highway trails. These vehicles are less than 70 inches wide and weigh less than 1,000 pounds.
You must register an ATV to drive the vehicle on public property or private property in NYS. An ATV that is only used for agricultural purposes or not-for-hire snow removal on private property does not require a registration. A registration for an ATV that was issued in another state to a resident of that state is valid in NYS.
If you purchase an ATV from a NYS ATV dealer on or after April 1, 2005, the dealer is required to register your ATV before it is delivered to you.
To register an ATV not purchased from a NYS ATV dealer, bring the following items to a DMV office:
Acceptable proof of ownership. (Read the information that appears below).
Proof that the NYS sales tax was paid or proof of the purchase price of the ATV. If you purchased the ATV from an out-of-state ATV dealer, and the bill of sale indicates that the dealer collected the NYS sales tax, no additional sales tax is due. If the out-of-state dealer collects out-of-state sales tax, you can apply for credit toward the payment of the NYS sales tax when you apply for registration in NYS. You an be eligible for credit only if NYS and the other state have a reciprocal sales tax agreement (See form DTF-804 for more information). If you purchased the ATV from a private seller, the seller and the buyer complete form DTF-802 (Statement of Transaction for Sales Tax). You can also show your proof of exemption or proof that the tax was paid.
A completed form MV-82 (Registration / Title Application). The instructions are on form MV-82.1 (Registering/Titling a Vehicle in New York State)
Proofs of your identity and your date of birth. See form ID-82 (Proofs of Identity for Registration and Title)
Cash, a check or a credit card to pay the registration fee and the required sales tax.
Acceptable proof of ownership
If you purchased the ATV from a NYS ATV dealer on or after April 1, 2005, the dealer must register your ATV before it is delivered to you. Your proof of ownership is the NYS transferable ATV registration.
If you purchase the ATV from an out-of-state ATV dealer, acceptable proof of ownership to apply for registration at a DMV office can be:
a manufacturer's certificate of origin or a manufacturer's statement of origin, and the bill of sale from the dealer, or
the registration or the title certificate signed by the previous owner that transfers the ownership to the dealer, and a bill of sale from the dealer that transfers the ownership to you.
A bill of sale from an ATV dealer must include this information:
the name and the address of the dealer and the registration number of the dealer
your name and your address
the vehicle identification number of the ATV, the year, the make, the model, and the number of wheels
an indication that the ATV is either used or new
an indication that the dealer collected the correct NYS sales tax.
If the ATV is transferred by a private individual, acceptable proof of ownership is:
a NYS or out-of-state transferable registration or title certificate signed by the previous owner to transfer ownership to you, or
if the current owner did not register the ATV, a transferrable registration and bill of sale that transferred ownership to the current owner, and a bill of sale that transfers ownership to you. For more information, read the information about acceptable proofs of ownership and bills of sale from private ATV owners.
Do I need insurance coverage for my ATV?
Insurance coverage is required unless you drive the ATV on your private property only. You must show your proof of insurance to a judge, a police officer, or any person who makes a claim of injury or property damage.
Do I need a driver license to drive an ATV?
You do not need a driver license to drive an ATV, but restrictions apply to ATV drivers under the age of 16:
Children 10 to 15 years of age can drive an ATV only:
with adult supervision, or
without adult supervision on property where their parent or guardian is the owner or tenant, or
without adult supervision on property where ATV use is permitted and the child completed an ATV safety-training course approved by the DMV. (Carry your course certificate with you when you drive.)
Children under the age of 10 may drive an ATV only:
with adult supervision, or
without adult supervision on property where their parent or guardian is the owner or tenant.
You can operate an ATV on public lands where signs indicate that ATV use is allowed. Only operate an ATV on private property if you have permission from the property owner.
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because you are seeking GOOD advice my suggestion is to contact the NYDMV tht way you will be sure to gt correct and updated information .... then again i can make up some really good storys and i am french model ....bon jour
:clap: LOL
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I have been reading along, considering making the big ride up there? The snowmobile/ATV discussion dominating now, I have two questions?
1. Rigid tow bar required?
2. Ice conditions, is slush an issue on Black Lake?
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I have been reading along, considering making the big ride up there? The snowmobile/ATV discussion dominating now, I have two questions?
1. Rigid tow bar required?
2. Ice conditions, is slush an issue on Black Lake?
1. Regulation - state-wide.
2. Not an issue right now. Like riding on concrete 3/4" or more ice on top of the snow, on top of 8" minimum black ice base.
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How the road into Dave's?
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1. Regulation - state-wide.
2. Not an issue right now. Like riding on concrete 3/4" or more ice on top of the snow, on top of 8" minimum black ice base.
State-wide? I have heard and read, rigid tow bar period, then rigid tow bar when towing person on sled, toboggan, etc., and rigid tow bar on shoulder of road or crossing a road? ???
Thanks for the ice/slush info. Stuck sled and an old guy with heart condition not a good combination. ;)
All this Black Lake hype is got me pumped! ;D
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State-wide? I have heard and read, rigid tow bar period, then rigid tow bar when towing person on sled, toboggan, etc., and rigid tow bar on shoulder of road or crossing a road? ???
Thanks for the ice/slush info. Stuck sled and an old guy with heart condition not a good combination. ;)
All this Black Lake hype is got me pumped! ;D
Put a winch on that sled Bart. @)
I was wrong - part of what you said is correct. It was covered in that document I posted a link to.
Don't really matter to me. I don't like having the sled run into me when I stop or go down a hill.
YOU MAY NEVER OPERATE AN ATV:
•Other than while seated on the permanent, regular seat.
•With a passenger, unless the ATV is designed to carry a passenger.
•At a speed too fast for existing conditions or potential hazards.
•In a careless, reckless or negligent manner.
•While intoxicated or impaired by alcohol or drugs.
•On the tracks or right-of-way of a railroad.
•On a highway, if the ATV is equipped with studded tires other than automobile-type studs.
•In a tree nursery or planting in a manner which damages or destroys growing stock or creates a substantial risk of damage or destruction.
•Within 100 feet of a dwelling between midnight and 6 A.M. at a speed greater than necessary to keep the ATV moving.
•While pulling a person on skis, a toboggan, sleigh, sled or trailer, unless the device is attached to the ATV by a tow-bar or other rigid connection.
•On the ice or public water within 100 feet of a person, fishing shanty or shelter at a speed greater than necessary to keep the ATV moving.
•Over an area cleared of snow for skating, unless necessary for access to public waters.
LOCAL LAWS
No locality may require its own ATV licenses or registrations, but it may impose additional restrictions or rules on ATV operation. Find out about special ATV rules in your area, and obey them.
SO, by law, you can't tow someone on skis by a rope (i.e.waterskiing on the snow). >:( I don't see where that could be dangerous! ::)
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They are 50$ bucks and worth their weight in gold. I have tried without and have picked our stuff up off the ice after flipping over more than id like to say... Not to mention the legalities witch 9 times outa ten if u look legit with a tow bar helmet when passing dec or county's they will more than likely wave u threw and not bother you. At least that's my experience:) have a safe and good Christmas to all:)
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Kudo's to FFP for attaching the links to those maps. They are awesome. I really liked when you clicked on the marker showing fish creek it gave you a link to the history of pope's mills. It made for some interesting reading about old game warden stories. Kudo's to everyone who posted info on the ATV laws also. It's great to see everyone helping each other out trying to give them the RIGHT advice and not what someone thinks it should be. Just remember, do the right thing. It's a lot cheaper. Heaven knows we spend enough money on gas, augers, tip ups, and did I mention bait??? I'm gonna have to work a second job to buy a dozen minnows. LOL. Merry X-mas to all you IS Mo Fo's. ;D
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Put a winch on that sled Bart. @)
I was wrong - part of what you said is correct. It was covered in that document I posted a link to.
I was thinking of a winch?
I also tried that link, I only get the earthhttp:// icon. ???
The other link of Black Lake point of interest is awesome!
Thanks again for the info. bart
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I was thinking of a winch?
I also tried that link, I only get the earthhttp:// icon. ???
The other link of Black Lake point of interest is awesome!
Thanks again for the info. bart
Not sure which map you are having problems with. One of them is a custom Google Map and the other is a PDF of the lake showing bottom contours.
If it is the google map, you may need google earth installed to view it; if it is the the other, you will need the Adobe Reader Plugin. Both are free.
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It was this one... http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/Themes/IceShanty2011/images/bbc/url.gif
It's all good, thanks.
Merry Christmas, bart
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Sorry - you are 100 percent wrong and passing on information that is incorrect.
Read on:
http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/Themes/IceShanty2011/images/bbc/url.gif (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/Themes/IceShanty2011/images/bbc/url.gif)
It's not the entire regulation but you will get the "gist" of it.
For all you guys asking questions - you should get your answers from some source of law enforcement.
It's fine if you do not want to acknowledge the regulations; just don't pass on that bad knowledge. ;)
Been doing ATV instruction in NY, for the ASI, for several years.
So if after reading the document listed above, you still want to declare an exemption from the registration, that's fine, but that exemption is specific and does not allow for recreational riding of any kind, anywhere. Not going to argue the helmet thing - that's just plain common sense. Don't care about the legality of it and don't care if you wear one.
A sheriff told me I could ride unregistered uninsured on own property, we were riding old 70's beater sleds and they had a road block in my friends field (trail cuts through it) and he said it was legal but if we wandered off the property we would get tickets....we had no helmets on and this was oneida county
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A sheriff told me I could ride unregistered uninsured on own property, we were riding old 70's beater sleds and they had a road block in my friends field (trail cuts through it) and he said it was legal but if we wandered off the property we would get tickets....we had no helmets on and this was oneida county
Well, then, the Sheriff was wrong as well. ;)
I've seen that more than once - you can't argue with them though, just take what they might give you and head to the Justice to get it sorted out. ;D
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We were lucky then I guess
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Does anyone know of any cabins for rent on loti?? I'd like to stay there next month
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A bunch of us are staying in the cabins over on Eel Bay. Those are the only ones I know about. To reserve them you will need to go to ReserveAmerica.com and search for lodging in Wellesley Island State Park. Not sure if there will be any available though.
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how far are the cabins from loti at eel bay? i would ideally like to consume too much alcohol to drive while fishing and just be able to walk to the cabin
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They are a short drive (<5min), so probably out of the question for you. They do sit right on Eel Bay though. Depending on what you are fishing for, that might also be a good option for you.
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Lots of cabins on Black Lake. Check out the accommodations page on the blacklakeny.com website. Many cabins right on the lake. ;)2
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How is the perch fishing on black lake
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How is the perch fishing on black lake
Not know as a perch lake. Generally, lots of dinks and very few "keepers". Sometimes you can get into a school of them.
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sounds like the pike crew who stay at butternut cove the 1st week of may. all dinks and all keepers[ no women allowed ]
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I'm new to this site. How do i check black lake conditons? Can someone send me the link? thanks
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Read the newbie section posted above
post 4-5 more times and you will have access to the reports and conditions page as well as PMs
ICE Conditions are great on black lake from all reports
Good luck
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I'm new to this site. How do i check black lake conditons? Can someone send me the link? thanks
Welcome to the site. just a few more posts and you will be allowed to access the reports and conditions board. once you have your posts it is in the community section, Just above the NY board. ;)
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what are the ice conditions like? i heard that the lake can be thin in spots even with lots of ice elsewhere. is this true?
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I was just on rollaway bay and was on 14" of ice.
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ok great! thank you
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what are the ice conditions like? i heard that the lake can be thin in spots even with lots of ice elsewhere. is this true?
that can be true anywhere at anytime ......yer new too huh?
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that can be true anywhere at anytime ......yer new too huh?
True.
Where you from Matt?
You need to know the "normal" trouble areas and follow the weather. The lake is a big, wide, river for the most part. There can be current in certain areas. Stay away from points and narrow areas and pressure ridges. If you see yellow snow, stay away - it's likely lake water, not the other "yellow".
There are areas that are open all winter, as well. Stay on the beaten path and use your head and look where you are going.
Got some specific questions about specific areas? Ask.
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and carry a spud or a piece of rebar if any thought! it has saved me amany times
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was it an amish holiday yesterday ? a friend and I went up to chapmans bait shop on black lake to get some jigs and tip up supplies. As we went by the little bait shop marine place there was about 18 buggies across the road at that barn and there must have been 30-50 amish out on the ice spread our about 150 yards all in front of the bait shop , I was amazed. I have no problem with amish whatsoever , just haven't seen that many there before
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Somebody spilled the beans about a hot bite. ;D
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prolly wont fish there the rest of the year now especially with that many there , the one time I did go there this year the amish were keeping fish about the size of baseballs. I think my pike bait was bigger than some of their "keepers" . thank god I got a wheeler this year to move around.
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have the DEC check for licenses....they have been known to not participate in our laws and regs....have seen it down in Madison county
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Somebody spilled the beans about a hot bite. ;D
Keeps them busy and out of the "good" spots! :woot: Besides, they seem to be on the lazy side of things and will not walk far. ;)
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got my new lx7 in the mail today , buddy and I threw the wheeler in the truck and headed to rollway to try it out , LOVED IT !! caught prolly 20 crappies and 10 blue gills and released them all . A few crappies where about legal but we where in such a hurry we forgot a measureing stick so we released them all.
cant wait to go again now.
anyone else on rollway today between 1-3 ?
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have the DEC check for licenses....they have been known to not participate in our laws and regs....have seen it down in Madison county
DEC has been known to be active on Black Lake.
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Heard today that the Cranberry Lake "First Strike" Derby will be the same weekend as the Black Lake Derby. :'(
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Heard today that the Cranberry Lake "First Strike" Derby will be the same weekend as the Black Lake Derby. :'(
That's right - I think there are at least 5 derbies that day!
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I'll be at the Black Lake Challenge hosted by Fish Creek Bait and Tackle. Gonna try and have our big camper shanty out there that weekend.
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I'll be at the Black Lake Challenge hosted by Fish Creek Bait and Tackle. Gonna try and have our big camper shanty out there that weekend.
Have not heard of that one. When is it? Have not been in his shop yet either - I need to stop by.
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anyone going out on black lake today ? maybe see you out there , going to rollway , or surrounding areas today to get away from the masses .
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tons of people at rollway bay today , my friend and I went far down from everyone but didn't have much luck jigging today , got 1 keeper crappie , and 4 keeper northerns .
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we've been out twice on rollaway bay, since Christmas day and have had decent luck. The first day we pulled a couple smaller Perch and three Northerns (the largest about 22"). We went yesterday straight out, and boy was there a nice group of people already when we hit the ice at 9am!! our big catch was a 32" northern and pretty much our only one. I pulled 3 keeper crappie about 10-12" and a huge momma perch at 14"(which had a pike minnow in its mouth ;D ), wish I could have caught more like that. But right around 2:00 our jigging hit a stop and we picked up.
we've been using minnows for jigging with decent luck, does anyone have better luck on spikes or wax worms?
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Has anyone had any luck with Oak leafs? Making a trip up this weekend and wondering what to bring for bait.
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fished black lake all day today , from 8am till dark , great day . here is a nice picture i was able to take at sunset (http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y494/thinktwicez71/XXXXX_zpsab26dccd.jpg) (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/thinktwicez71/media/XXXXX_zpsab26dccd.jpg.html)
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fished black lake all day today , from 8am till dark , great day . here is a nice picture i was able to take at sunset
Nice PIC! Beautiful lake @) Glad you had a good day; must have been a chore keeping those tipups free of ice all day today - ;) Was chilly out there ;D
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It wasn't too bad , just chipped them when the flag was up . It was very peacefull today . Loved it
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Fished Rollway Saturday. Slow crappie bite but managed a few.
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New here at Iceshanty but found this site very useful. Hopefully in the next week or so I will be able to get out to Black Lake. Hope everyone is doing good out there.
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Welcome to the site DMoore114 ...
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where is this Black lake? New to NY.....i AM IN THE Watkins Glenn area...thanks
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About 2 hrs north of Syracuse
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Ogdensburg is the biggest town around there I believe. Edwardsville is right beside lake. Fort Drum army base is handy also. Up near the St. Lawrence seaway. At least that is what I remember. It has been probably 30 years since i went fishing there. Used to go on vacation there. It was a great panfish lake then. Don't know what it is like now. Enjoyed taking my family there and liked the area.
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Fished Rollway Saturday. Slow crappie bite but managed a few.
Thought you were going to MileArm? I was waiting for you up there. ;) Need to discuss Rollaway Bay with you.
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I didn't like the looks of the road in when I got there so I decided to play it safe. Don't think a few ccrappies is worth me messing up my truck. Some of that road is a bit scary when there is ice.
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anyone have a map of black lake
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DEC has contour maps for most lakes by county on their website, granted they have no scale. They still give you a basic idea of where you want to be. A better choice would be navonics app/chip for GPS assuming they have a contour map for black lake.
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Forecast calls for temps in the upper 20's on Sat. And possibly low 30's on Sunday with light winds. Someone's fishing from sun up til sundown two days straight. Just need to come up with a few good excuses to keep the old lady of my case!
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DEC has contour maps for most lakes by county on their website, granted they have no scale. They still give you a basic idea of where you want to be. A better choice would be navonics app/chip for GPS assuming they have a contour map for black lake.
The NAV chip for Black Lake is not that great. The best chip I've seen for Black Lake is Fishing Hotspots on a Lowrance. Or just pick up a paper version of the Fishing Hotspots on Black Lake and do it by landmarks.
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anyone have a map of black lake
One (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.479116,-75.616493&spn=0.130075,0.296288&t=m&z=12)
Two (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kw92o3LaOHaE8yNXhUSDMyd3M/edit?usp=sharing)
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Lot of snow on the ice?
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Lot of snow on the ice?
Not. All that we had was sleet and freezing rain tha tis as hard as concrete right now. Got less than an inch of blowing powder stuff yesterday and last night.
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bet its cold there though!!!!
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bet its cold there though!!!!
Been sub-zero with a nasty NE "breeze" for two days. :clap: :woot: :thumbsup: Nice weekend on the way though. @)
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we were gonna come out that way yesterday but with temps makes sleeping on the ice coooollllddd!!!
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How much ice???
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How much ice???
A lot. ;) Couple more posts and you can get to the reports pages and see lots of info.
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where is a good spot to set tip ups on black lake. what jigs are working
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where is a good spot to set tip ups on black lake. what jigs are working
There is a lot of good info in this thread and over in the reports thread for Black Lake. Includes maps with access and fishing information. There are only a few public access areas on the lake. Chapman's Sport Shop and Black Lake Marien are good sources of bait and current info.
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Forecast calls for temps in the upper 20's on Sat. And possibly low 30's on Sunday with light winds. Someone's fishing from sun up til sundown two days straight. Just need to come up with a few good excuses to keep the old lady of my case!
How about "absence makes the heart grow fonder" and if that doesn't work try "too bad".
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I didn't like the looks of the road in when I got there so I decided to play it safe. Don't think a few ccrappies is worth me messing up my truck. Some of that road is a bit scary when there is ice.
Good choice. ;D
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is there any northern pike in that black lake? ;D
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is there any northern pike in that black lake? ;D
Ya. But they are all dinks! :P
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is there any northern pike in that black lake? ;D
I caught a few that were about 32 33 in couple years ago on tip ups and a nice mixed bag of crappie and gills on the jig rods.. kept for a busy day
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Went out to Rollway today. Caught a ton(100+) of dink crappies, perch, and bluegills. Only managed 4 keeper gills and a decent crappie. Saw a lot of pike being pulled through today. My Marcum's screen was full of fish all day and it proved to be the most action I have had ice fishing in awhile.
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My two day total from Rollway. Had to sort through the dinks. Fun trip for my first time out.
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Nice end to the day
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nice picture , I have gotten quite a few nice pictures of the sunset on black lake this year. Beautiful place
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Was out yesterday, nice day and the fish were "on fire". Lots of dinks but I got a few meals of decent perch, through back countless perch and crappies. Bare jigs for all fish. I was searching for Eyes but could not find any yesterday. Moved and fished a lot of spots in an area; learned some things. @)
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Was out yesterday, nice day and the fish were "on fire". Lots of dinks but I got a few meals of decent perch, through back countless perch and crappies. Bare jigs for all fish. I was searching for Eyes but could not find any yesterday. Moved and fished a lot of spots in an area; learned some things. @)
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Even if you get skunked, any day out when you learn something is a success.... @)
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anyone brave the cold and been out on the lake the past few days ?
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anyone brave the cold and been out on the lake the past few days ?
t would have been pretty tough out there! :woot:
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Did you guys get the snow that far north?
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Did you guys get the snow that far north?
Big fat zilch on the snow! ;D Lake ice is absolutely flat and slick. :P Better have studs in your boots, tires, tracks, etc. Whatever you put on the ice is going to need some help with traction. @)
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Thank you
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yes I was out there yesterday , it was like walking on an ice rink that was freshly watered :o
was interesting without spikes on me and nothing on the wheeler
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Made it out to Rollway again today managed these and two northerns. One was about 31 inches the other about 20(which I caught on my ultra light) Pretty miserable all day rainy and some wind. When I was tending to my tip-ups my shanty flew about 50yds down the lake :%$#!: I ran it down then promptly fell on my face pulling it back :'( It was pretty slick out there.
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Saw the same weather as you out there. We "toughed" out the rain till it quit and stayed till dusk. Got a few EYEs.
19" and 22" a couple of shorts and a few dropped.
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How did the Ice hold up today with the weather. Had to work all night Friday so I'm not making it out this weekend. With four days off next week game on.
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Nice job Phil.......
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Anybody else out on Black Lake today hear that really loud noise? Sounded like a bomb going off. My guess is that it was a pressure ridge forming?
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Anybody else out on Black Lake today hear that really loud noise? Sounded like a bomb going off. My guess is that it was a pressure ridge forming?
Did not hear that from where I was.
Ice is great. It ain't going anywhere, anytime soon. ;D
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Great job on the eyes fishforpike. That spot looks familiar. Is there a rock face cliff just to your right in the pic of u holding up the eye?
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Great job on the eyes fishforpike. That spot looks familiar. Is there a rock face cliff just to your right in the pic of u holding up the eye?
Maybe - I did not notice any.
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hey Phil that looks familar ;D guess I may have to take a break from the insanity down hear and spend a day up there , how much rain did you get ?
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hey Phil that looks familar ;D guess I may have to take a break from the insanity down hear and spend a day up there , how much rain did you get ?
Quite a bit. 2-3" of water on the ice. Holes and cracks opening up. 18" of ice. Must have gotten an inch of rain. Come down pretty good for about 3 hours.
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we have small lakes on the lake some a ft deep maybe deeper toward the east end ;)
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what kind of minnows are the pike going for. are there smelt in black lake. we use big dead smelt or moon eye minnows on owasco lake
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Rollaway bay has been excellent
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what kind of minnows are the pike going for. are there smelt in black lake. we use big dead smelt or moon eye minnows on owasco lake
No smelt in BL... Best place to get pike bait would be http://www.chapmansblacklake.com/ (http://www.chapmansblacklake.com/)
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Nice job Phil! Great spot! ;)
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anyone get out on the lake on top of the frozen lake ? :roflmao:
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just in case anyone is planning on coming up to fish at rollway tomorrow , the shore ice at both access spots is broken and deep water , there is access by foot , but not by wheeler. It will be ok after this weeks cold temps , but not right now. I was there today and watched person after person try it and get their wheelers stuck.
the ice itself is great tho , 16" at rollway
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Good to know!! Headed up for the tourney this weekend. Can't wait!!!
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if you go to chapmans he has a ramp built for wheelers to access the lake over the broken ice
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Hey guys I am thinking about heading up there for the tournament this weekend and I am looking for some ideas on where to go other than rollway bay I was thinking about emery island any info would be appreciated thanks
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Hey guys I am thinking about heading up there for the tournament this weekend and I am looking for some ideas on where to go other than rollway bay I was thinking about emery island any info would be appreciated thanks
There are folks that fish that area - I think mostly tipups for Pike. There is a reason Rollaway is popular - ;) I like fishing different areas of the lake and do it all the time. It's fishing mostly, though - not catching. :)
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Thanks fishforpike I try to stay away from crowds are you going to be fishing this weekend
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Thanks fishforpike I try to stay away from crowds are you going to be fishing this weekend
Tomorrow and Sunday - working the fish & game club's derby on Saturday. I usually go out from Chapman's and make way around to "places" and "spots".
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As of right now there are no jumbo Pike minnows at either Bait shop in Black Lake.
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No big minnows. That's not good. Where do I get pike minnows before Derby and where do I sign up? And Derby brochers around
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Did you check fish creek bait and tackle. He's just up the road from rollaway and I think he has bait.
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Everyone gets their bait from the same supplier. Sign-ups at Chapman's and Black Lake Marine. I was in Chapmans tonight and he had large shiners.
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Thinking about heading out there next weekend. Is there vehicle access to rollaway bay?
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Thinking about heading out there next weekend. Is there vehicle access to rollaway bay?
Yes.
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Thanks. I heard there used to be tons of walleye until the runoff made the lake more fertile increasing the pressure from the crappie population.
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Thanks. I heard there used to be tons of walleye until the runoff made the lake more fertile increasing the pressure from the crappie population.
That's one theory. The two major creeks that provided spawning areas were also demolished, both by changes in human use - silting in the rocky bottom and draining some of the area. Both of those areas have been "recovered" and spawn runs are returning to some extent. Along with a great stocking program by the DEC; they are making a comeback.
I have had some luck the last few years - finding them is a real chore though.
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How did the Derby go? I opted for Cranberry and the wind was brutal.
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How did the Derby go? I opted for Cranberry and the wind was brutal.
We did pretty well this year - 135 entries, I think - it was a profitable day for the club thanks to all the great prizes and donations.
Weather was a little breezy but temps were up a bit, making for a decent day.
How was Cranberry? Busy?
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Cranberry had a huge field, big payouts per hour, awesome door prizes. and really well organized by the local FD.
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Cranberry had a huge field, big payouts per hour, awesome door prizes. and really well organized by the local FD.
Money is a BIG part, for sure. Can bring its own problems with it. They do a great job with their derby.
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Heard the top 2 walleyes in the black lake derby were huge. Any pics?
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Heard the top 2 walleyes in the black lake derby were huge. Any pics?
Someone might post some PICs (https://www.facebook.com/OHFRBLFGA?hc_location=timeline) -
Top EYEs were 29 1/8" 11.77 lbs. - 29" 11.77 lbs. - 16 7/8" 1.61 lbs.
That last eye came from one of the Indian River Lakes, I think. We had a good day for the Club.
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How is the fishing on black lake this winter ?
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I think the five previous pages of posts talking about itwould be a good place to start to get your answer. now that you have 3 post you can check the reports and conditions board also.but keep in mind its only for reports and conditions not questions
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caught an eye in one of the tribs one summer a few years back, it was shallow in the weeds I was throwing a daredevil for pike, hooked into a good fish, brought him in to see that it was a walleye close to 30" but really skinny...how is the lake doing after this snow?
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its a tough go out there unless you have a snowmobile or atv with tracks . I have been out there in peoples trucks that just about get stuck off the beaten path , and that was before last night and todays snow.
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Yeah brutal....what a work out. Fished out of roll away . Drink after drink perch. Only 10 keeper c rappies. Hit red lake and did great 30 of water. Crappies were suspended 20 foot mark. Great day
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How much snow on the ice up there? Planning a trip up in a couple weeks from Rochester. Thanks.
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Just got back from my first ice fishing trip at Black Lake. The pike were biting all weekend. Caught one real nice 30". All released. Tons of dink perch with a few keepers here and there. All about 200 - 300 yards out in front of Butternut Cove where we were camping. 4*4 SUV didn't have clearance to navigate the snow, but walking wasn't too bad. Ice was very deep. Probably 2' +
To answer question above - on our last day of fishing (Sunday 2/16) snow was probably about 6-8 inches, packed down pretty tight. It wasn't that bad but need a truck with clearance and good tires to drive on it.
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Going out tommorow
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We've been ice fishing Black Lake for the past 5 yrs. One or two trips a year since its 4.5 hrs from home. This year was a shockingly horrible trip. We have always done well on 12-15" crappie and palm sized bluegill. It was our favorite trip each year. Only a few keepers between the six of us in three days this time. All the fish in the bay were tiny. After spending most of the second day in the Narrows searching for bigger fish, I finally managed a 20" walleye on a tipup at last light. Caught a 3-4 lb. Largemouth the last day and a TON of 5" perch. Blew out a wheel bearing just as we got on the road and was stranded for 2.5 hrs. to make matters worse.
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I fished the st lawrence nearby and the bite was terrible. We caught a few pike, but the perch were all tiny and were not biting. We were in a spot that we could see to the bottom and saw several large pike swimming right under us and they could care less about our lures or tip ups. We did not see a single perch worth filleting. They just are not there. Is the amount of ice affecting perch movements? Or time of year? I have never seen it this slow before. Usually we can hammer jack perch but we were catching fish the size of our minnows.
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Feb is always a tough month, but usually with a lot of holes drilled and moving around, I can scrape together something resembling a decent day on the ice. This year has been extremely tough and the once consistent spot on Black Lake was the dagger on my hopes this month. I'm hoping the late ice period is on fire to make up for this slow fishing
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Builtright,
Nice fish! how deep did you have to setup for the walleye? I am still new to catching them through the ice and they have proven difficult to catch. I heard they were in black lake but from what I gather, they are tough to catch consistently.
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In my experience, this time of the yr especially, you have to fish the dawn and dusk periods for walleye. I set up on the edge of a shoal in 12-16 FOW next to a 20-30 foot deep basin. It was just before a low pressure system so the barometer was falling which is ideal. Walleye fishing on unfamiliar lakes is not easy but the panfishing wasn't working that day so it was worth a shot. I had the spot picked out from contour maps before hand and just had to execute. 6-7" sucker chubs on a treble hook with a glow bead above set 3' off bottom. We jigged for them as well and would get followers but no takers. I'm pretty new to walleyes through the ice too but enjoy the challenge of figuring them out and the reward of seeing that head come up through the hole at the other end of my line.
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Thx for the info and congrats. Its good that you gave a spot now that you know can produce. Did you get chubs near BL? The only bait near me are shiners and perch minnows.
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I called Chapmans and they didn't have suckers or emeralds so I brought them from home.
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Heard black lakes some good fishin. Am I right or wrong?
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Heard black lakes some good fishin. Am I right or wrong?
Awesome fishing. ;D
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Fished out of chapmans today about a half mile straight out from mclearys in the 15 fow flats, keep three pike and two perch and tossed back a couple dink perch. Only on the ice for a few hours but got a small mess of fish to fry. Has anyone been able to catch any crappie lately?
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April 4th - Got out with mdupper for some Crappie. We had 28" of ice. Top 8 was white and softened up in the sun and 40 deg. weather. Still 18" of good hard black ice under it.
We got a few nice crappie and mdupper got his first Bowfin - 25".
Thanks for a good day Mike. @)
The fight:
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The fish:
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Thanks for a fun trip Phil .. That Bowfin was a lot of fun on U.L. rod with 5 lb test .. Never thought i could say my last day of ice fishing for the year could be April 4th WoW great year :)
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Great job on the bowfin mdupper.. Thats very cool.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Thank you, Raquettedacker ! it was a lot of fun ... Cant wait for next year :)
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Always think I have a trophy walleye when I catch a dogfish. Disappointing but they sure can fight.
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I do... Lots of guys say the big ones taste bad throw em back. I say I love a fried fillet that hangs off both sides of the plate! @)
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Any size walleye is good the smaller ones are just sweeter
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Hey Phil, any ice yet :woot: :icefish:
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Really? ;D We still have deer to kill Mook, I mean DD, I mean Ed. @)
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Nope. I'm afraid it's going to be a late season this year. I hope not, and I hope it's good, when it comes. @)
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Hey Phil, any ice yet :woot: :icefish:
I heard he was going to be OFF-LINE this season. ???
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I heard he was going to be OFF-LINE this season. ???
who?
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Really? ;D We still have deer to kill Mook, I mean DD, I mean Ed. @)
I hear ya, but I'm ready to shift gears. Rough season for me.
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I hear ya, but I'm ready to shift gears. Rough season for me.
Im ready! Strangest deer season ever for me this year 👎🏻
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Same here, still a couple weeks left yet. Looking forward to taking a break. Been hunting hard since Oct. I have a feeling Black lake is gonna get some traffic again this year. :-\
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Im ready! Strangest deer season ever for me this year 👎🏻
Deer harvests are down 25% state wide. That's quite a large number really...this damn El nino!
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That and a pretty significant winter kill. :-\