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Title: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: meatandmetal on Mar 17, 2018, 06:16 AM
Just started using a wheeler this year for ice fishing. Had no problems early with the lack of snow I'm sure right now it is a different story. I fished with Roccus last month and he had chains on his wheeler noticed in Jibbs post that they did not. Just wonder your thoughts for people that use wheelers. Assuming that it is not an option to keep taking them off and putting them back on.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: mowbizz on Mar 17, 2018, 06:26 AM
I don’t have a wheeler at the moment (unless you consider and Argo a wheeler) when I did use a Polaris, I used chains because I plowed my driveway with it and also used it for ice fishing. Chains were definitely a plus on the lakes and yes once you got them on they were there until the weather dictate they come off. Not a pleasant job ( for me anyways)!
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Hess on Mar 17, 2018, 07:49 AM
For ice fishing purposes, I would always recommend a set of rear tire chains at the very least -- they are not that expensive -- a set of Moose V-Bar chains are only $55-60...!
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: jibbs on Mar 17, 2018, 09:08 AM
I never use chains well I shouldn’t say never..one year I used them due to a ton of snow and it made I big difference ..I think it’s worth putting them on but I get by without them.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: HuntnFish603 on Mar 17, 2018, 11:07 AM
I didn't use chains for several years and sometimes things were difficult. But now after having them for many years, I would NEVER go back to not using them. The grip is unbelievable. I never have any problems on the ice or even in a considerable amount of snow. 
Yea they can be a pain to put on, but it's only an hour for a whole season of peace of mind.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Fishermen on Mar 17, 2018, 12:34 PM
Stud a spare set of tires
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: green shack on Mar 17, 2018, 12:55 PM
I didn't use chains for several years and sometimes things were difficult. But now after having them for many years, I would NEVER go back to not using them. The grip is unbelievable. I never have any problems on the ice or even in a considerable amount of snow. 
Yea they can be a pain to put on, but it's only an hour for a whole season of peace of mind.

Agreed would not go out without chains after having them for many years.  It takes time to get them on but well worth it and they are inexpensive.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Lv2hunt on Mar 17, 2018, 02:00 PM
I agree too I use chains on the rear only in my quad and give great traction never get stuck. The set of chains I have don't take more than 15 min to put on and off real easy we'll worth it in my opinion.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Fishermen on Mar 17, 2018, 05:42 PM
Yeah chains are great until they come unraveled
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: fishingidjit on Mar 18, 2018, 06:42 AM
Chains are the only way to travel !  :)
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Fishmon on Mar 18, 2018, 07:06 AM
If you use rear chains only remember to leave in 2 wheel drive.  If you go with chains on all 4, OK to use 4 wheel drive.  Otherwise, you risk messing up your drive train. 
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: mowbizz on Mar 18, 2018, 09:16 AM
If you use rear chains only remember to leave in 2 wheel drive.  If you go with chains on all 4, OK to use 4 wheel drive.  Otherwise, you risk messing up your drive train.

Not sure I follow your logic on this...in 4WD on a slippery surface the non-chained wheels will simply spin when needed. On pavement for sure just 2WD. I don’t think you can mess up the drive train on ice under any conditions.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: green shack on Mar 18, 2018, 12:32 PM
I use chains on all 4 wheels because I need it for pulling my BobHouse.  My next machine will have tracks so I can pull in deep snow.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Capt. Black on Mar 18, 2018, 01:47 PM
I’ve never used chains. Hate it when I’m running for flags and they hit my chin.
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Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: mowbizz on Mar 18, 2018, 03:12 PM
I’ve never used chains. Hate it when I’m running for flags and they hit my chin.
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Lol
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Roccus on Mar 18, 2018, 04:20 PM
2 lug V bar on the rear. ..carbide studs on the front. ..when I first got the wheeler I used it without them...it only took one season to realize their value. .
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Arctic Addict on Mar 18, 2018, 05:52 PM
The only time I use chains out on the ice is to yank out stuck four wheelers.  Hahaha, just kinding- kind of...
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Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: bassboat on Mar 19, 2018, 02:43 AM
I don't use chains (Foreman all-time 4WD w/ deep mudders). The sled's on the back rack, so I can ramp and go. If it's too deep, I bring the Indy.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: SHaRPS on Mar 19, 2018, 08:37 AM
Can anyone recommend a set of chains? Looking to get some rear chains for my Kawasaki Prairie 6500. Thanks!
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: whitewing on Mar 19, 2018, 12:25 PM
For an over view of chains google tire chains for atv.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: SHaRPS on Mar 19, 2018, 02:30 PM
For an over view of chains google tire chains for atv.

Thanks but looking for actual Ice Shanty member reviews instead of random reviews for the product itself. No better opinions than here.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: fishingidjit on Mar 19, 2018, 05:14 PM
Can anyone recommend a set of chains? Looking to get some rear chains for my Kawasaki Prairie 6500. Thanks!

I recommend V-bar with  some type of chain tighteners. I have chains for each tire but usually only do the rear tires unless the snow is up to my @##.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: JIGGIN- on Mar 19, 2018, 06:25 PM
Chains for me, Front and Back. For pulling power.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: HuntnFish603 on Mar 19, 2018, 07:39 PM
Can anyone recommend a set of chains? Looking to get some rear chains for my Kawasaki Prairie 6500. Thanks!

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Definitely go with v-bar chains. These are what I use, I think they were Raiders. I use them front and rear. I found when moving along all loaded up on straight ice, the quad wanted to push and not turn so we'll. On glare ice I can turn on a dime, and it helps with pulling power when locked up.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Roccus on Mar 20, 2018, 08:36 AM
 2 link V bar... by going 2 link you cut down on the roughness of the ride... the only reason I did not chain the front was because it would require spacers on the Polaris I have... I have deep lugs and studs...and have never had an issue.. studs help a lot on glare ice.. I can check the brand when I get home... I have the box they are stored in out .. right now I have the chains soaking in a bucket of oil...

as a tensioner..i use bungee cords run through S links around the circumference of the tire to keep them tight...
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Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: SHaRPS on Mar 20, 2018, 09:36 AM
Thanks everyone! Sounds like the 2 link V-bar it is.

Roccus - I can attest that your rig worked GREAT! I am also trying to do a similar setup with the cooler for bait but I do not remember how you had that box attached to the wheeler. First step is I need a hitch added to my atv. Not sure what this will cost.

So far the plan will be to fish the big lakes at least 2 times next season. Possibly 3 if I can get up there for the derby as well. The machine will be a big help for the old man and I so I am trying to rig it up so he can use it to reach his tip ups without walking much, similar to you Joe. Auger, Tip ups, and bait all on the ATV. The rest can go on the sled.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Roccus on Mar 20, 2018, 02:31 PM
Thanks everyone! Sounds like the 2 link V-bar it is.

Roccus - I can attest that your rig worked GREAT! I am also trying to do a similar setup with the cooler for bait but I do not remember how you had that box attached to the wheeler. First step is I need a hitch added to my atv. Not sure what this will cost.

So far the plan will be to fish the big lakes at least 2 times next season. Possibly 3 if I can get up there for the derby as well. The machine will be a big help for the old man and I so I am trying to rig it up so he can use it to reach his tip ups without walking much, similar to you Joe. Auger, Tip ups, and bait all on the ATV. The rest can go on the sled.
...What I did was through bolt  with a 7/8" carriage bolt  ( through a plate) into a receiver .. I also added a "U" bolt to the bottom which extends beyond the box itself  with   nuts and washers to keep the box from spinning... on the bottom of the larger through bolt( under the box) I used a bent ( heated with a torch) piece of steel that I bolted a 1/2" eye bolt for towing my sleds (thread diameter) that piece of 1/4"  steel  extended back to the "u" bolt to keep that from twisting... the whole rig comes off  simply pulling the pin and removing the receiver. I can take some pictures and do a little "how to:" in another thread.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: merk42 on Mar 28, 2018, 11:30 AM
Chains are the only way to travel !  :)
Not true....tracks are slow but they "are the only way to travel"  :)


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Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: meatandmetal on Jan 10, 2019, 04:32 PM
Bump to ATV's on Ice..
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: Fishmon on Jan 11, 2019, 07:43 AM
Not sure I follow your logic on this...in 4WD on a slippery surface the non-chained wheels will simply spin when needed. On pavement for sure just 2WD. I don’t think you can mess up the drive train on ice under any conditions.

Just saw this thread pop up again.  Best thing to do is check your owner's manual or check with dealer.  I have an arctic cat with a CVT drive which can be damaged if put in 4 wheel drive with just back tires chained.  Dealer's mechanic told me this when I purchased the machine.  I use chains on all 4 wheels and it goes just about anywhere unless snow is over a foot deep.  When there is just a small amount of snow on ice that is crusty,  I take front chains off and put it in two wheel drive and go as fast as I want to.  Never had any problems in the six years I have owned the machine.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: 800stealth on Jan 11, 2019, 10:33 AM
Never used chains myself but my wheeler is lifted and rolling on big mud tires, built motor, clutch work etc, even used to run a small wiff of nitrous on it when it was a pit racer... I'm at right around 20" of ground clearance, if I start to bog down I just up the wheel speed... it can get messy but I've yet to have to get off and shovel lol. If it was all factory, she'd probably be chained up...
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: mowbizz on Jan 11, 2019, 01:40 PM
For those interested in flotation and traction check out JWheelz
I just ran across them online...looks pretty interesting! And I just spent $4500 on tracks for my Argo... :(


http://www.j-wheelz.com/
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: green shack on Jan 11, 2019, 05:01 PM
Bump to ATV's on Ice..

what I want when I upgrade.  tracks are unbelievable
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: plotthound2 on Jan 12, 2019, 04:03 PM
When I first used my ATV for ice fishing, I didn't have chains, just screwed short hex head screws into the treads.  Worked great and cheap.
Title: Re: Chain or not to Chain
Post by: green shack on Jan 12, 2019, 04:29 PM
Chains are cheap