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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: taxi1 on Feb 13, 2020, 01:05 PM
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Even though I probably won't use it until next season I'm looking for a cordless drill with enough power and battery to not only drill holes in the ice, but I want something with the ump to drill holes in some stumps on the property to apply Potassium Nitrate and diesel fuel. My regular cordless obviously won't cut it. (No pun intended).
So therefore I am looking to kill two birds with one stone. I'm not so much concerned about the price as I am with a good quality drill and battery(s).
Suggestions?
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2804 Milwaukee Fuel with a 12.0 battery...
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I'll 2nd the 2804 milwaukee with the 12 amp battery. Just remember on drill mode it has the potential to injure you. I'd recommend using the side handle.
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X3 on the Milwaukee.
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x4 on Milwaukee
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i have the Milwaukee,
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used it to install a tv wall anchor yesterday! its usefull when not drilling holes/anchors
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https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-Fuel-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Kit-with-Two-5-0-Ah-Batteries-and-Hard-Case-2804-22/305059560
https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-Electric-Tools-2804-22-Hammer/dp/B079N5B41N
https://www.factoryauthorizedoutlet.com/products/milwaukee-fuel-m18-2804-22-1-2-inch-lithium-ion-brushless-hammer-drill-kit?msclkid=51f10593d0d01325e2ec5bd6787cb23f&utm_campaign=FD%20-%20Milwaukee%20-%20Item%23&utm_content=MWE-2804-22&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_term=2804-22
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I own both the Milwaukee Fuel 2704 and the Ridgid Octane. Both are great drills with enough muscle to twist your arm off at the root. If I could only own one of them, it would be the Milwaukee Fuel. Lighter, and with better ergonomics. Both are superb four season tools.
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You are going to get Milwaukee and ridged fans. Get a brushless. Get one with the maximum torque lbs. get as good a deal as you can don’t make your decision with the deals from the big box stores. If you do find a deal make sure it includes at least a 5amh battery. Good luck!
Keep it safe! JDL
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Milwaukee and Ridged are both good drills that will get the job done, with the Milwaukee having a little more guts. In the end, I went with the Ridged for the lifetime warranty.
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Milwaukee mud mixer plenty of guts for drilling in your stumps and all you need for drilling in the ice .
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Thank you gentlemen!
Thank you hardwater diehard for the links!
That's half of what I thought would pay for something like that!
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Thank you gentlemen!
Thank you hardwater diehard for the links?
That's half of what I thought would pay for something like that!
There was a better deal at Mills fleet farm ..but its all sold out at 11 am ..that's the best deal I have seen since noontime today ..keep an eye on this thread ...everyday some drill deals from time to time ..especially recently ..Mil 2804-22 have been going around $199 ..from different Farm n Fleets ..HD just dropped their price ..also sign up for some Emails fron factory outlets for 10-20% off first orders/discounts
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=331034.6810
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There was a better deal at Mills fleet farm ..but its all sold out at 11 am ..that's the best deal I have seen since noontime today ..keep an eye on this thread ...everyday some drill deals from time to time ..especially recently ..Mil 2804-22 have been going around $199 ..from different Farm n Fleets ..HD just dropped their price ..also sign up for some Emails fron factory outlets for 10-20% off first orders/discounts
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=331034.6810
Thanks! I just ordered the Milwaukee from Home Depot! I had customer show up and pay me $250.00 just before I finished the order which worked out great!
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Thanks!
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Ill be the odd ball here.
I really like my Dewalt. I believe its the 996. Only reason why I went this route was because most my daily arsenal was Dewalt so it just made sense. No real dog in the fight either way. I use this year round for some tough work running 8''-12'' lags among many other jobs. Seems to have paid for its self no doubt.
I see now they have the 997 which has bluetooth and tracking so you can find your drill if someone has sticky fingers. Or to make sure your employees are actually on the job lol.
https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/connected-products/20v-max-xr--tool-connect-hammerdrill-kit-w-tool-connect-batteries/dcd997p2bt (https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/connected-products/20v-max-xr--tool-connect-hammerdrill-kit-w-tool-connect-batteries/dcd997p2bt)
I run 6ah batteries ice fishing and the thing shreds ice. One battery is usually all I need depending on ice and temp.
Tight lines
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Thanks!
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you will be impressed with any of the top drills. the power is unbelievable!
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I bought the MW 2704 last year and love it. Came with 2 5AH batteries and the charger with case. I never used the second battery yet and after well over 40 holes in 12 inches of ice when I got home the battery still had 3 bars left. Now I see they sell a 2804 model. Anyone know the difference between 2804 and 2704 or is it just a newer model of the same drill.
Gam
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I bought the MW 2704 last year and love it. Came with 2 5AH batteries and the charger with case. I never used the second battery yet and after well over 40 holes in 12 inches of ice when I got home the battery still had 3 bars left. Now I see they sell a 2804 model. Anyone know the difference between 2804 and 2704 or is it just a newer model of the same drill.
Gam
Redesigned side handle and a more compact frame ..same torque specs and drill modes and speed
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Redesigned side handle and a more compact frame ..same torque specs and drill modes and speed
Thanks HD! Fabulous drills and the battery has been unbelievable so far.
Gam
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Thanks HD! Fabulous drills and the battery has been unbelievable so far.
Gam
I have the 2704 on my Clam Plate w/8 in K-Drill..no issues ..I also have a 2804 that I have as a back up .there is a great difference in the side handles sturdiness as the 2804 grips more of the drill.
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I’m running a 2804 on my 6” nils and it tares up the ice
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I am a Dewalt fan as well for 2 reasons. 1) I like the product and I have it interchangeable with other Dewalt tools. 2) we are Milwaukee at work and there is a large amount of tool and battery theft there. I started with Dewalt so that they can not say that I acquired it from work.
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Milwaukee 2804 if you can get a deal with 2 of the 5ah batteries. Mine also came with the quarter inch impact which is great when I'm tinkering one car.
Sure the 12ah is better but its also a pretty pricey battery
I havent used my 2804 on stumps but it sure does rip thru ice extremely well.
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I'll echo the Milwaukee 2804..the bigger battery is obviously great but the 5ah they come with will drill 30-40 holes in 20 inches of ice with ease..get the drill with the 5ah and upgrade the battery after if you really need to..i''buy a 9ah or 12ah next year most likely but i never run a 5ah battery more than halfway the way I fish..and I fish with 2 other people, so not a huge concern for me..drill has loads of power..really impressive..
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If you already have a set of cordless tools from a reputable brand then the drill you want is a brushless hammer drill from the brand that you already have....provided it meets the specs needed to turn the ice bit you will be using.
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If you already have a set of cordless tools from a reputable brand then the drill you want is a brushless hammer drill from the brand that you already have....provided it meets the specs needed to turn the ice bit you will be using.
725 in/lbs or better 4ah batteries or better...good side handle ..brushless ...
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If you already have a set of cordless tools from a reputable brand then the drill you want is a brushless hammer drill from the brand that you already have....provided it meets the specs needed to turn the ice bit you will be using.
I'll agree with the brushless hammer drill but only because I believe the gears are stronger in the hammer models. I never use the hammer function when drilling ice holes with a lazer auger and don't believe the hammering would help at all except possibly with a chipper auger and even then I am unsure if hammer is the way to run it.
Gam
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I'll agree with the brushless hammer drill but only because I believe the gears are stronger in the hammer models. I never use the hammer function when drilling ice holes with a lazer auger and don't believe the hammering would help at all except possibly with a chipper auger and even then I am unsure if hammer is the way to run it.
Gam
Nope, do not use hammer mode for any drill powered auger.
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Once again thank you for all the comments! Drill is out of delivery today! My closest Home Depot is over an hour away so I prefer door to door delivery.
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50 holes in 12 inches. still
strong at end of day
hammer drill. don't use hammer
got mine in a kit 5 years ago with a rachet gun. 199 two batts
if you have a drill handle you don't need one of those 3rd party large drill holder frames
i use 5 and 6 inch mora augers. the old light blue ones
less than ten seconds you are thru
cheers
danman
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I was looking to purchase a drill for my 6" nils, prob was gonna go with the dewalt since I got batteries for it anyways. Don't think I care if I got the the 991 or 996 but was wondering if I bought a hammer drill and left it on the hammer drill setting by accident and tried to drill, would that mess up my nils blade seeing they are delicate ???
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I was looking to purchase a drill for my 6" nils, prob was gonna go with the dewalt since I got batteries for it anyways. Don't think I care if I got the the 991 or 996 but was wondering if I bought a hammer drill and left it on the hammer drill setting by accident and tried to drill, would that mess up my nils blade seeing they are delicate ???
Yep ..probably not even get a mulligan on it ..have an extra blade/head at the ready.
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After using a drill for 6 years, and reading about people's preferences, I think there is one factor that makes more difference than the brand of drill: Battery capacity.
Because of the ways batteries are made ( you put cells in series to get up to the voltage you need, then start putting sets in parallel to increase capacity) bigger batteries have more parallel cells than smaller.
The obvious effect is that you store more energy, but the side effect is that the battery can produce more current if needed. If you need the max the drill can provide, which you do to drill holes, the battery needs to supply that.
At home, with a full charge, in the warm, when new, all the batteries work fine.
As they get older, they lose performance
As they discharge, some loss
When they are cold (with is out biggest problem) they can lose a lot.
I have 7 year old 3 AH batteries, and was having problems with cutouts, running out of juice,... when cold
Bought a 9AH battery, and all problems have gone away.
My new theory: Buy whatever color drill you want, but don't overlook the battery you buy for use in cold conditions. If your drill is not performing as it used to, try a new battery before you blame the drill.
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NI CAD batteries are seriously affected by being cold while the Lith Ion ones handle cold much better. All batteries lose some power when very cold but NI Cad ones are the worst.
I drilled 50 holes yesterday in 10-12 inches of ice with my MW fuel 18V and one 5AH battery. At home after storing my gear and getting ready to charge the battery still had 3.5 bars of the full 5 it starts with.
I think more important with the drills is the term "Brushless". I can't attest to this other than to say on a cold, dank and wet day my DeWalt 18V was very unhappy and shooting sparks out the back every time I drilled a few holes. The Milwaukee brushless has no such issue. With 1200 Ft/Lbs of torque and variable speed in the drill setting I can run my 7 inch lazer auger slow or fast and it makes no difference as long as the blades are sharp. My buddy just bought the newer MW 2804 drill with the K Drill set up in 8 inch and that thing eats through ice much faster if speed and a few pounds lighter is important to you. The one difference I saw between the lazer auger and the K drill auger was at the break through at the bottom of each hole. K drill is cleaner there and did not try to yank the drill down deeper like my lazer does. The K drill seems a bit smoother at opening old holes or cleaning out iced over ones. Either auger or either drill as long as you get your holes drilled the object is to save weight and avoid all the other oil, fuels and gas heavy weights.
Gam
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Last weekend I drilled 35 (overlapping) holes back to back then after a short break another 45 holes back to back with my Ridgid Octane and 9ah battery with the Strikemaster Lite Flite 8".
I've never had to drill 80 holes in a regular ice fishing outting, but it's good to know I easily could if I needed to. Also reassuring I probably dont have to charge my battery up after each outing when I only drill a dozen or so holes.
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Last weekend I drilled 35 (overlapping) holes back to back then after a short break another 45 holes back to back with my Ridgid Octane and 9ah battery with the Strikemaster Lite Flite 8".
I've never had to drill 80 holes in a regular ice fishing outting, but it's good to know I easily could if I needed to. Also reassuring I probably dont have to charge my battery up after each outing when I only drill a dozen or so holes.
I wonder??? We know that Ni Cad batteries have a Memory and get used to how much power is drained before they get recharged. It is better to run them close to fully drained before recharging them or so they say. Lith Ion ones are claimed to NOT have this Memory issue so I wonder if I should even recharge them when they still have more than half of a full charge. Typically when I go fishing I drill about a dozen holes. Other times if fishing with a few pals I could drill lots more but one of them usually has a auger too. I know for a fact with a full Milwaukee 5 AH battery I can drill well over 50 holes in a foot of clear ice and probably a lot more if necessary. Last year a buddy had the identical set up as me, Lazer 7 inch auger with new Swedish blades on a clam plate but used his Ryobi drill and smoked it after the 8th hole. YUP, Smaller drill and Ni Cad battery but he now has a MW Fuel and loves it. I have a Rigid 1/2 inch drive I use in the garage for changing wheels and it won't work for augers but the thing is a monster and very well built. If I need another drill when my DeWalts crap out I will buy an Octane.
Gam
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I don't know anything about battery memory or anything like that, but I know I have a lifetime service agreement on the battery so if it ever bites the dust I get another one for free. That's why I went with Ridgid over Milwaukee. I also have the 3ah battery that I use when using the drill around the house.
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I don't know anything about battery memory or anything like that, but I know I have a lifetime service agreement on the battery so if it ever bites the dust I get another one for free. That's why I went with Ridgid over Milwaukee. I also have the 3ah battery that I use when using the drill around the house.
My DeWalt drills, 14.4 and 18 volts all came with NiCad batteries. When the batteries crapped out on both sizes the drills were still working fine and I tried to buy new batteries for them. Turned out the batteries were stupid expensive by themselves or in 2 packs. At the Home Depot I could buy a brand new drill with the charger and 2 new batteries cheaper than just buying the 2 new batteries. Dumb marketing IMO. Makita did the same with their 9.9 Volt drills and tools and turned most contractors off. Ridgid is currently winning in this instance and making great tools and excellent battery warranties. I burned up my Ridgid shop vac doing drywall and got a brand new one under the warranty after more than 3 years of heavy use. Then I found one at the landfill with the cord pulled out of the motor and took it to the HD and got a second one free. My Ridgid Impact driver will twist your hand off if not careful.
Gam