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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: javabone on Aug 10, 2017, 07:16 AM
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I see they 13 Fishing is coming out with a new version of the free fall. Has anyone played with one of these or know about them? I was wondering how much they weighed? Thanks.
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Says here it weighs in at 1lb. Sounds like it'll be alot more "hardwater friendly" with the composite frame.
https://www.clearh2otackle.com/product/freefall-ghost-inline-ice-reel
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Give the guys at sportsmans direct a call they'll give you the exact weight http://sportsmensdirect.com/shop/icefishingreels/13-fishing-free-fall-ghost/
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when is it coming out?
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Won't solve the freeze up issue on the spool and casing though. I wish they would find some way to alleviate freeze up on the spool, it completely destroys the "FreeFall" concept. I would rather have a fix to that than weight although I don't know how they would fix that without completely re-designing the FreeFall.
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Good concept, I don't have one but imagine they work well in a shack? They are coming out in October if I remember correctly?
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I'm thinking it should weigh in at sub 6 oz?
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I'm thinking it should weigh in at sub 6 oz?
Listed at 1 lb
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Why is there no information on 13 fishing website about the new freefall ghost? I just ordered a Tuned Up Custom 32" Bullwhip with a cork split grip. Has anyone paired up a Freefall on a TUCR with a split grip? looking for any feedback from those of you that have a freefall.
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http://www.dicksmithslivebait.com/store/products/new-for-201718-13-fishing-free-fall-ghost-inline-ice-reel-pre-order/
not familiar with the company
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Why is there no information on 13 fishing website about the new freefall ghost? I just ordered a Tuned Up Custom 32" Bullwhip with a cork split grip. Has anyone paired up a Freefall on a TUCR with a split grip? looking for any feedback from those of you that have a freefall.
Yep, I have a free fall on my Bullwhip and my Precision Noodle, both split grips. I'm probably going to buy 3-4 more of them this year. The only thing I don't like about them is that the drag makes almost no noise when a fish is taking line so it will kind of worry you a little bit when you have something bigger on. I'm not saying the drag doesn't work good enough to handle bigger fish because it does, it's just weird to not hear anything. I usually fish out of a flip over shack so icing up isn't an issue for me.
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Cabelas website
http://www.cabelas.com/product/FISHING-FREE-FALL-GHOST-ICE-REEL/2574684.uts
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https://icefishingdeals.com/2017/09/19/preorder-13-fishing-black-betty-free-fall-13-fishing-free-fall-ghost-inline-reels-69-99/
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I just ordered 2.cant wait till they show up.
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What's the difference between the FreeFall Ghost and the Black Betty FreeFall, they look identical except for the colors.
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Something to do with the material I believe. I think the ghost is supposed to be a little lighter. According to the descriptions they are both made from composite frames though.
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Thanks Pal. The thing that jumped out at me was the price difference, the Ghost is $70 where the Black Betty is $110 yet they look the same other than the paint job.
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13 Fishing Black Betty 6061 Inline Ice Reels feature a CNC machined 6061 aluminum construction for toughness and durability. The incredible frame design allows anglers to fish a "pistol" or "pencil" grip style without rubbing the rim of the spool. This multiplier fly style reel eliminates line twist so that you can delicately and naturally present small or light baits. With an internal gear cover, smooth carbon drag, anti-reverse, and much more, Black Betty 6061 Ice Reels give ice anglers the most bang for their buck. These are the ultimate inline ice reels!
•6061 bar stock CNC machined aluminum
•Integrated fender design
•Lightweight EVA handle knobs
•Carbon drag
•Instant anti-reverse
•Bait alarm
The FreeFall Ghost is the latest Inline reel from the company that has perfected inline fishing. The revolutionary FreeFall trigger allows hard water anglers to hit specific depths, and get instant hookups by releasing the trigger in the target zone. Expect easy one handed operation, smooth drag, and the perfect all around gear ratio for shallow to mid-depth (5-50') Ice Fishing. No line twist, drop speed control, and tangle free spool cap create a user friendly design that simplifies line management and makes your time on the ice more enjoyable.
•Composite Graphite Frame
•Aluminum Handle
•Integrated Fender
•FreeFall Trigger System
•Soft Touch Knobs
•Drop Speed Control
•Instant Hookup System
•Graphite Star Drag
•Tangle Free Spool Cap
•2.5:1 Gear Ratio
•4 Stainless Ball Bearings
•Instant Anti-Reverse
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See that 13 Fishing has this reel up for sale on their website.
Keep it safe! JDL
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Scheels has them in stock now too. I messed around with it a bit yesterday. Definitely has a different feel than the original freefall. I'll be getting one to give it a try at least this season. I'm not completely sold on the plastic though...
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If you do get one would you please post your impressions of it. I was looking at it because of the price, but would rather spend more cash to get something that has gotten good reviews. I am happy with my 6061's just like the idea of the trigger release.
Keep it safe! JDL
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Thanks Hardwater Diehard for the info. I like the trigger line release but wonder really how much faster it'd be compared to the CGI reels.
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If you do get one would you please post your impressions of it.
The difference is the material it is made with, Aluminum for the original and composite (plastic) for the Ghost.
I too, am wanting to know what the initial opinion is of those that have one. Most importantly, will the composite hold up?
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The difference is the material it is made with, Aluminum for the original and composite (plastic) for the Ghost.
I too, am wanting to know what the initial opinion is of those that have one. Most importantly, will the composite hold up?
I'm pretty sure both frames are made of the same composite, the original freefall has an aluminum spool and handle. My one complaint about the original freefall was my line getting caught in the small gap between the spool and frame a couple times last year. The ghost seems to have a smaller gap so hopefully this will fix the issue. I'll make sure to post my thoughts when I get it, hopefully I'll have a review in action in another month and a half :)
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My buddy and I fished these last year on our week-long trip to Lake of the Woods -- fished them from shacks so no icing problems at all. I don't know how to say it other than to just sum up the experience as a game changer. The write ups make it sound like you're going to drop your presentation and charlie tuna is going to be sitting there waiting to take the ride topside -- and it's not really like that at all (though I suppose it could be in a fantasy world) -- but it is awfully nice to control the stop point by watching your electronics -- and immediately be watching for sniffers. The point was made about the silence when a fish is running drag -- I agree totally -- that takes some getting used to (and I'm not sure I'm used to it yet). I use a ton of 13 Fishing's stuff -- have numerous combos from their White Out line -- and I put our freefalls on Widow Maker rods -- I have two ghost reels on order (for my buddy and me) and another standard freefall for myself as well. Can't wait for our trip this year!
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http://www.dicksmithslivebait.com/store/products/new-for-201718-13-fishing-free-fall-ghost-inline-ice-reel-pre-order/
not familiar with the company
These folks are a 2nd generation family owned bait/tackle shop local to me. Great folks!
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They are now available, just ordered one from ebay for $69.99 and free shipping. They are supposed to be lighter than original freefall. 13fishing web site doesnt specify the weight, but on cabelas it says 4.5 oz. I will weigh it when i get it and let you guys know.
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I tried to get into the in-line reel game last year. I had a couple of the cheaper Eagle Claw models. I didn't really care for them. Would this 13 Fishing Ghost model make me a believer?
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I am a spinning reel kinda guy here myself. I do like the free fall and stop idea for my electronics when targeting crappie and perch. Will this ghost fit the bill for a first in line ice reel?
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It comes down partially to your personal preference and also to the quality of the reel. I started out with the frabill 241 and hated it. Upgraded to the frabill 371 and loved it. I have a hard time going back to anything but inline reels now. I upgraded to the freefall last year and I definitely like it better than the 371 but both are great reels.
So, I think it could make you a believer if you like inline reels. More likely than the eagle claws at least. On the other hand, if you just aren't an inline guy then it wouldn't matter what kind of inline reel you try...
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I am a spinning reel kinda guy here myself. I do like the free fall and stop idea for my electronics when targeting crappie and perch. Will this ghost fit the bill for a first in line ice reel?
If you are going to get a inline reel I would really suggest that you check out the 13 fishing bb-6160. It is a quality reel that I think got better after the first generation. I chose that reel for my first. No problem using it with your electronics, watch your bait drop and you can stop it right where you want. Having said that I did purchase a ghost, hoping it will perform as advertised. Planning to take my little boat out with my vex to see how it goes, can't wait for ice!
Keep it safe! JDL
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So i got the reel today. Reel weighs 6.5 oz. Spool is plastic. Frame is composite. Feels good in hand, very comfortable for pistol grip, the spool guard in the rear prevents the palm from touching the spool. Trigger feature is awesome, it is perfectly placed next to your index finger, so you can drop the lure with just 1 hand and have the other hand in the pocket. The drop speed control is very accurate and sensitive, you would be able to adjust the speed to any lure weight. The drag feels nice, it has the clicking sound, so it can be adjusted more precisely unlike on the CGI. Only complaint is that there is good amount of play between the knobs and the handle, you can feel the knobs move back and forth on the shaft when reeling, but i can live with it. I think the trigger makes this reel worth the price. They should have called it white betty :)
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Any new updates on this reel?
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I tried to get into the in-line reel game last year. I had a couple of the cheaper Eagle Claw models. I didn't really care for them. Would this 13 Fishing Ghost model make me a believer?
I too bought the eagle claws, don't like them. I bought the ghost last week, just playing around with it in the garage, I like well enough to go buy another one tomorrow.
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What didn't you like about the Eagle Claw reels?
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What didn't you like about the Eagle Claw reels?
Adjusting the drag on the EC has to be the worst...besides that for the $20 I paid not a bad reel
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Adjusting the drag on the EC has to be the worst...besides that for the $20 I paid not a bad reel
Your right about the drags,but if you do a little work on them they are really ok.
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Is there any way to change the washer out of these to a carbon one? Would make a significant difference I would think
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How much line do you guys put on these Ghost's and Freefalls? I bought one of each at the Dakota Angler Institute last week.
Will likely use 3 pound mono.
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How much line do you guys put on these Ghost's and Freefalls? I bought one of each at the Dakota Angler Institute last week.
Will likely use 3 pound mono.
50 yards for me, mainly just because I can get two reels worth out of one spool of line. I use 2# mono for mine.
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50 yards for me, mainly just because I can get two reels worth out of one spool of line. I use 2# mono for mine.
one thing I noticed when I got my first bb-6061 was that if you put too much line ai was running into a problem of loops coming off and getting caught under the knob that holds the spool on. So not really thinking about getting two spools out of a hundred yards that is what I have been doing for the last two seasons. Mostly fish in less than 30 fow' so it works out just fine.
Keep it safe! JDL
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Thanks Guys. Sounds good to me. I, too, am usually in 25 or less FOW.
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Your right about the drags,but if you do a little work on them they are really ok.
What work did you do on the drag? I've never did anything like that, the only work I've ever done on a reel is to grease or oil it and change the line.
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After reading this thread Im pretty excited. I won a 28" Jason Mitchell Deadmeat at a tourney this weekend so Im pairing it with a Freefall Ghost. Cant wait to see how it does!
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After reading this thread Im pretty excited. I won a 28" Jason Mitchell Deadmeat at a tourney this weekend so Im pairing it with a Freefall Ghost. Cant wait to see how it does!
The new ones this year seem to have a very smooth drag. I love the one i have on my noodle rod. Hopeing to get another one when stuff goes on sale this spring