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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Equipment => Topic started by: lefty2053 on Sep 09, 2020, 06:15 PM
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I had a Shappell FX50 and sold it. Last year my wife decided she no longer wanted to go Ice fishing so I sold everything. THis year I will go alone but would love another Shappell FX 50 but they no longer make them. SO I have an idea to make 2 long uprights from the top of the sled to the ground where the sled is standing up. Then 2 more shorter pieces from the bottom of the sled out to connect to the longer ones. To give it a triangle shape with trap attached. I got the idea from this picture and others like it. I would just use a chair to put in there and not a built in seat. Anyone make one of these? I figure the 2 pieces on each side could be connected with a eye bolt going through the long piece and a PVC cap bolted to it. That way you could just disconnect it and fold it inside the sled.
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Excelent idea ..
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Lefty there's a NIB FX-50 in NY 50.00
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Lefty there's a NIB FX-50 in NY 50.00
WOW I bet it would only cost me $100 to ship to Colorado. Where is it at? I would get it if the price isn't insane for shipping.
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Id use abs of pvc....angle aluminum might be even better since it will fold into itself where the bottom pieces hinge into to the uprights....just use a keyhole with a stud (bolt would work) on a small plate at the lip of the sled to attach the bottom strut to sled. Quick and easy
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After looking at that guys picture again I think just 2 pieces of PVC would be enough. I would just leave the Tarp long enough to have a shirt at the bottom so I could use snow to hold it down. 2 or 3 Eskimo Anchors should be enough to keep it from blowing away. I could drill holes through the PVC at the bottom at an angle. Screw the anchors through those holes and one at the lip of the sled. I would bring a chair and not make it built in.
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The fx100 is like the fx50 except the fx100 goes all of the way to ground in front. It also has wind break mode like the fx50.
One could modify the fx100 to become the fx50 if you didn't want the weight?
The fx100 has two more support bars than the fx50 and the brackets to hold it half open for windbreaker mode.
I wouldn't want to not be able to take the tent all
of the way down to the ground in front of me. We use windbreaker mode on windy days and take the front all of the way down for heat or privacy or both. People close in when they see fish and they're not seeing them where they're fishing.
Most times I leave the tent fully collapsed and can have a seat at times and then use it for heat when the Temps drop near sunset or if the wind picks up.
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Might just get the FX100 if I can't make something. As far as others seeing me catch fish and coming over, I don't have a problem with that. That very seldom happens since the lake I am on is huge.
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They make pvc trim boards they sell at lowes that may work for ya two pieces with the tarp sandwiched in middle and one to mount to sled .. the pvc wood is cheaper then say star board they use in boats.. just a suggestion?
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I always thought of making something but more of a 3 sided(roof optional) affair. Make 4 PVC sleeves mounted inside at the "corners", slide 4 poles into the sleeves and the "tent" goes over them. I would have whoever makes the "tent" - make sleeves for the poles on each corner with a cutout about halfway up for anchor ropes. I wouldn't go real tall just sitting height. The opening could be either a long or short side.
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I made a wind break out of a tarp but it involves drilling 3 holes about 1" dia which I can do with a dinky drill. I'll try to post pix if interested.
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I made a wind break out of a tarp but it involves drilling 3 holes about 1" dia which I can do with a dinky drill. I'll try to post pix if interested.
Yes please post a picture.
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I made this from some old tent poles and a picnic tent.
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Nice. I see you used the SUV sled.
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So I just ordered the Jet Sled XL. 66" by 31". That should be plenty big enough for me. When I get it from Cabela's I will go out and buy the uprights for it. I will either go with PVC 1" or I might just get 1"x2" Boards. The boards would most likely work better to attach the Tarp to them. I could wrap it around and then staple it on. There wont be much weight on the uprights.
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So I just ordered the Jet Sled XL. 66" by 31". That should be plenty big enough for me. When I get it from Cabela's I will go out and buy the uprights for it. I will either go with PVC 1" or I might just get 1"x2" Boards. The boards would most likely work better to attach the Tarp to them. I could wrap it around and then staple it on. There wont be much weight on the uprights.
This is the pvc trim boards I was talking about by royal products at this hyper link.. .. if you got a table saw you could by the 5.5 x .75 x 12 footer and slpit it up but of corse the cost is a little higher then 1 inch pvc guessing a lot stronger too..
https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=Pvc+wood (https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=Pvc+wood)
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This is the pvc trim boards I was talking about by royal products at this hyper link.. .. if you got a table saw you could by the 5.5 x .75 x 12 footer and slpit it up but of corse the cost is a little higher then 1 inch pvc guessing a lot stronger too..
https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=Pvc+wood (https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=Pvc+wood)
So this is solid PVC boards? I was thinking they were hollow. I don't have a Table saw anymore but can find someone to split it for me. I would only need an 8' board. Plan on just running from the front of the sled down to the ground. How would staples work on these boards?
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Was just looking over those boards and think 2 of the .75 x 1.5" x 8 ' boards would be plenty strong enough.
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Was just looking over those boards and think 2 of the .75 x 1.5" x 8 ' boards would be plenty strong enough.
Was thinking the same thing ..
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Any ideas on how to attach a tarp to the side of the jet sled? I was thinking of gluing the tarp to a 1x2 and then screwing that to the sled.
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Any ideas on how to attach a tarp to the side of the jet sled? I was thinking of gluing the tarp to a 1x2 and then screwing that to the sled.
Could do what most ice shelters companies do ..little rubber striping and pinch it to the side fold of the jet sled . It may stay on its own or could use self tappers through rubber /tarp/ jet sled .
http://www.shappell.com/images/FX150_Assembly_Instructions_rev0816.pdf
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Hey thanks I never thought about using rubber stripping. I would use my spray adhesive with that.
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Hey thanks I never thought about using rubber stripping. I would use my spray adhesive with that.
Not sure you need adhesive ..
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Gluing tarps can be tricky as most are made from polyethylene and very few glues stick to it. Notice that many glues come in plastic bottles! ;D
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The adhesive I bought is Loctite It bonds to Wood, Metal, Acrylic, Foam, Fabric, Polypropylene ad PVC. So I think it will help.
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hardwater diehard, I was checking around for rubber stripping and that stuff is expensive. On the other hand a bicycle tube is cheap. Might go that way. I have to go pick up my sled today. I dread that drive. It is 65 miles away and the wife is sick so traveling alone makes it even longer.
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Hmmmm ...what tubing are you looking at? ..I was thinking along the lines of some vinyl fish tank tubing or some rubber windshield wiper hose or fuel line and cut a slit in either one . Also using some dollar store binder clips as you get things in place will help greatly. Soaking the tubing in hot water may help as will a heat gun or hair dryer.
https://www.dollartree.com/bulk/Metal-Binder-Clips
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Hmmmm ...what tubing are you looking at? ..I was thinking along the lines of some vinyl fish tank tubing or some rubber windshield wiper hose or fuel line and cut a slit in either one . Also using some dollar store binder clips as you get things in place will help greatly. Soaking the tubing in hot water may help as will a heat gun or hair dryer.
https://www.dollartree.com/bulk/Metal-Binder-Clips
Again some good ideas. I used to own 30 aquariums but long ago. I will find something along the lines of the wiper hose. The Rubber stripping I was looking at is commercial stuff. I might even have some Vacuum line hose out there somewhere. I think I might have some weather stripping out in my shed. The kind that is sticky on one side for windows.
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On my old HT Polar Escape ..the tent had a series of grommets and it was cinched to the the tubs via rope/cord .
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On my old HT Polar Escape ..the tent had a series of grommets and it was cinched to the the tubs via rope/cord .
Now that made me think. I found this on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Coghlans-8812-Grommet-Kit/dp/B0000CCV54/ref=asc_df_B0000CCV54/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167153962525&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14975682057303154961&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029168&hvtargid=pla-334685945474&psc=1
Think I will get this and use the rope trick. Just put several down each side of the sled and call it good. Easy to do and I found cheap tarps to use in Black.
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hardwater diehard, I was checking around for rubber stripping and that stuff is expensive. On the other hand a bicycle tube is cheap. Might go that way. I have to go pick up my sled today. I dread that drive. It is 65 miles away and the wife is sick so traveling alone makes it even longer.
go to a junkyard and get ford body side weather stripping off a mustang or f150 - should be plenty to choose from and you can walk out with 10' for less than $5. The hatch strip off a fox body would be perfect - they're steel reinforced
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https://www.amazon.com/HKOO-Fasteners-Stainless-Marine-Upholstery/dp/B07MCR9R5T/ref=sr_1_14_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=snap+buttons&qid=1600264394&s=hi&sr=1-14-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyUUU4U1haM1hXN0FDJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDE2NDY0MjVBWFVHMVJHNTdOVyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODU2NTA1WlhXMTBFME1IRDFMJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfbXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
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https://www.amazon.com/HKOO-Fasteners-Stainless-Marine-Upholstery/dp/B07MCR9R5T/ref=sr_1_14_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=snap+buttons&qid=1600264394&s=hi&sr=1-14-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyUUU4U1haM1hXN0FDJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDE2NDY0MjVBWFVHMVJHNTdOVyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODU2NTA1WlhXMTBFME1IRDFMJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfbXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
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Well you have enough options ..(i am sure to add more ) send us some pictures once you decide and settle on a plan . Good luck. Let me know how you like that 66" jet sled ..think I am going that route myself this season ..I have an Otter in that size ..but just too heavy I liv e my smaller jet sled but need just a tad more room for hub transport and gear.
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Will post pictures once it is done. As for the 66" sled, I will be going by myself from now on and I wont need the heavy Pop up I had nor the extra bottles of propane or the Buddy heater, anchors pee bucket for the wife , 2 chairs, lunch and drinks for 2, large tackle box, extra poles and reels, 2 fish finders and gas auger or the smity sled for that matter. So I think pulling this sled with just a hand auger, 1 chair, drill, 2 poles, scoop and one box of lures and jigs is going to be a breeze. Of course I will have a small lunch box with only a couple of extra drinks. I don't spend a whole day out only about 4-5 hours.
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OK so it is my first try but satisfied with the results. $6 Tarp and it will definitely keep the wind off me. In fact if it rained the only thing that could possibly get wet is my Sorel boots. And they don't leak. Here it is. I also have a larger style chair in it. I put an anchor in the middle on the back and I have eyebolts on each of the uprights that anchors goes through.
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I know there are people that can do a better job than I did but heck, it will work for me. The sled and material is about 23#'s. I will be bring another 10-15#'s at most.
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Nice job lefty...need a fishing partner? ::)
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NIce I like it :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Nice job lefty...need a fishing partner? ::)
I usually go to the Blue Mesa for ice fishing but sometimes to Crawford or the Grand Mesa. Crawford should be horrible this year. It is really low so it will be filling up all winter and weakening the edges.
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NIce I like it :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Should have had the wife take a side picture while I was in it. Completely under the sled. The sled goes over my head and out in front of me by at least 5 inches.
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What did you use for the framing ..I am amazed that it "stands" by its self ..or is the anchor the key ?
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What did you use for the framing ..I am amazed that it "stands" by its self ..or is the anchor the key ?
Just 2 pieces of PVC board .75x1.5 It is very stable with out any anchors. I have 3 Anchors 1 for the center on the sled at the bottom and 2 -1 each side of the uprights. That sled is huge and I can push down on the top of it and the PVC holds up real well. Jet Sled XL 31"x66"x 12"deep. Fits in the Volts wagon with the rear seats down which means I will save on Fuel if I want to use it. 1.9 Diesel turbo. I have a Ford Explorer for when the weather is bad. I had bought 2 1x2 Pine boards to mount on the sides of the sled but didn't need them. I bought a grommet kit and added 4 grommets on each side of the tarp to attach to the PVC. The other part just had 3 grommets going down the rails. Might add more on the sled if need be.
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Ok so I am now looking to get some canvas tent material for the sides. I am somewhat happy with the plastic tarp but think it would be better with canvas. I just checked and will get an answer back from a local company that makes tons of Tent material items. Weather Port if you have heard of them.
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Ok so I am now looking to get some canvas tent material for the sides. I am somewhat happy with the plastic tarp but think it would be better with canvas. I just checked and will get an answer back from a local company that makes tons of Tent material items. Weather Port if you have heard of them.
Nice already a 2.0 version ..maybe weather proof that fabric too
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Nice work Lefty2053 a plus that you have a local source for the canvas tent material.
Steve
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OK I redid the tarp with rope instead of the Zip ties. Much safer and looks better. Also the extra flap on the inside I stapled it. Makes it look a lot better. Still waiting for Weather Port to get back to me. Might just call them Monday.
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future reference
https://www.amazon.com/Amazing-GOOP-170011-Marine-Adhesive/dp/B081XMZQPJ
goop marine adhesive will bond to PE tarps, and hold - I just repaired a tarp with it this weekend and use it patch my shack and atv bag
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Me my self have one in the works.. looks like this one at soroc products .com.. I think it sportsled.com or some thing along them lines.. already have the swivel seat just need the wind break made up.
https://sportssled.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fsporty-sled-windbreak (https://sportssled.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fsporty-sled-windbreak)
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So I just ordered the Jet Sled XL. 66" by 31". That should be plenty big enough for me. When I get it from Cabela's I will go out and buy the uprights for it. I will either go with PVC 1" or I might just get 1"x2" Boards. The boards would most likely work better to attach the Tarp to them. I could wrap it around and then staple it on. There wont be much weight on the uprights.
Lefty...have you considered conduit over PVC? Won't crack or break and I think it might be cheaper and maybe a little lighter. Just a thought.
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Me my self have one in the works.. looks like this one at soroc products .com.. I think it sportsled.com or some thing along them lines.. already have the swivel seat just need the wind break made up.
https://sportssled.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fsporty-sled-windbreak (https://sportssled.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fsporty-sled-windbreak)
Another good design. Let me see pictures when your done.
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Lefty...have you considered conduit over PVC? Won't crack or break and I think it might be cheaper and maybe a little lighter. Just a thought.
Yes but I am already done making it. Worked out great and once I used Rope to hold it on it even worked better. That canvas company won't make what I wanted but I did find out Walmart and Home depot bot carry canvas material in their paint section for drop cloths. Will see how the tarp works out this year and modify next year if need be. This thing covers me almost totally except for my feet. Everything else is under it.
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A great waterproof, light weight rip-stop vinyl coated polyester canvas. I made an insulated Flip ice house floor, seat for my Riding Snowdog and snap on boat cover. 60" wide sold by the yard. Price has gone up a bit due to covid
https://www.fabric.com/buy/0616543/ottertex-waterproof-canvas-aqua
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A great waterproof, light weight rip-stop vinyl coated polyester canvas. I made an insulated Flip ice house floor, seat for my Riding Snowdog and snap on boat cover. 60" wide sold by the yard. Price has gone up a bit due to covid
https://www.fabric.com/buy/0616543/ottertex-waterproof-canvas-aqua
(https://i.postimg.cc/G9KWJnR8/20201003-101946.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G9KWJnR8)
I was just looking at that same material for 6.99 a yard. Just a different company. Did you put your own Grommets on yours? I bought a grommet kit already. Thanks for the info. I most likely will use the tarp I have this year and see how it holds up and buy the tarp next year. Here is the place I found it.
https://www.fabricwholesaledirect.com/products/waterproof-outdoor-canvas-fabric?variant=20097658118&msclkid=bdfcc11259ae14a72ae39e65d32643e4&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=**LP%20-%20Shop%20-%20Canvas%20Fabric&utm_term=4577060749200201&utm_content=SHOPIFY_US_3403209219_31882274252%20%7C%20Canvas%20Waterproof%20Fabric%20-%20Banana%20Many%20Colors%20Available%20%7C%20%246.99
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I was just looking at that same material for 6.99 a yard. Just a different company. Did you put your own Grommets on yours? I bought a grommet kit already. Thanks for the info. I most likely will use the tarp I have this year and see how it holds up and buy the tarp next year. Here is the place I found it.
https://www.fabricwholesaledirect.com/products/waterproof-outdoor-canvas-fabric?variant=20097658118&msclkid=bdfcc11259ae14a72ae39e65d32643e4&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=**LP%20-%20Shop%20-%20Canvas%20Fabric&utm_term=4577060749200201&utm_content=SHOPIFY_US_3403209219_31882274252%20%7C%20Canvas%20Waterproof%20Fabric%20-%20Banana%20Many%20Colors%20Available%20%7C%20%246.99
My bad, your link is where I got the fabric, there in New Jersey same price I paid. Yes I did my own Gromets only they were snaps. Also did my own sewing - 1973 machine (38#) from Craiglist for $20. All machined steel parts, its a beast that sews canvas.
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Good job, maybe I will look for a Sewing machine to handle it.
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OK here is my update. Went out to look at a guy's ice gear for sale. (Junk) Didn't want that but saw a Garage sale on the way there and stopped at it. There was rolls and folded material laying on the ground. Wasn't sure and still am not sure what it is but it is really heavy duty water proof vinyl of some sort. Asked the guy what it was and he said, he didn't know but it doesn't wear out. Asked him how much it was and he said make an offer. I picked one roll that was enough to do my shelter at least 2 times and said how about $5 for it. He said sure. So that is what I will use after my regular tarp wears out. The material is 5' long with black on the inside and brown on the outside.