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Title: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 04, 2015, 02:55 PM
I started tying for the ice season. Been working on some nymphs.

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I know there's other fly tiers out there. Let's see your stuff!

Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: barebones on Nov 04, 2015, 09:34 PM
Looks good Rg. I just started fly fishing this year, I picked up a vice and some material, I believe some ice flies would be a good place to start.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: frogmaster on Nov 04, 2015, 10:17 PM
RG,

  As a fellow TIER, I can say you are "very well skilled" in the Art!  My 3 FAV materials are Peacock-Hurl, Copper-Wire and Maribou / Flashabou.

Bless
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 05, 2015, 03:05 AM
Scuds are next ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Nov 05, 2015, 03:13 PM
what about some thing like caddis pupa or wiggler type may fly nymphs hare ears and pheasant tail nymphs?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 05, 2015, 05:21 PM
Any or all of those will work. I generally start with some sort of scud. It's a major food source in our parts.

Added a few this morning. "Pregnant  tungsten bead body scud", bead head scuds and started on some Ammonites.


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Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TakinYoDuckets on Nov 05, 2015, 09:17 PM
Those look great.  Ill have to whip some up this weekend.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 06, 2015, 02:25 AM
Those tungsten bead bodies are heavy little buggers. 4mm bead set on a lead wrap. I stuck them in place with clear UV cure. Worked pretty slick.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: PACKERBACKER on Nov 06, 2015, 06:53 AM
Nice looking flies Bob.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 06, 2015, 06:58 AM
I'll save some for you Bill ;D

Breakfast sometime?

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TakinYoDuckets on Nov 06, 2015, 08:42 AM
Have you ever tried tying them on a jig hook with a keeled bead?  Ive never tied on a normal hook just wondering how the balance once tied on.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 06, 2015, 02:19 PM
Yeah, I've tried micro jigs. Even tried a mid hook line attachment to get them to lay level. However, I've never noticed a difference in catch rates. Just doesn't seem to matter.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TakinYoDuckets on Nov 06, 2015, 02:34 PM
Yeah, I've tried micro jigs. Even tried a mid hook line attachment to get them to lay level. However, I've never noticed a difference in catch rates. Just doesn't seem to matter.

Rg
That what i was wondering i might have to "borrow" some of your ideas and convert them for my trout boxes. 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 06, 2015, 04:05 PM
I'll be doing some woven nymphs next.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 13, 2015, 04:41 PM
Well, I'm back in the saddle ;D
Got a new vise which sparked a round of reorganization for my tying area.
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It's getting there. Anyone else tying for the ice?

Rg










Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TakinYoDuckets on Nov 13, 2015, 06:39 PM
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finally got some time last weekend
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this is my organization not enough room to keep it out so i have to organize it into a hackle bag
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Mac Attack on Nov 13, 2015, 11:16 PM
This thread looks familiar.

 @)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 14, 2015, 02:02 AM
Nice nymphs!

Fly nutz are everywhere Mac ;D I'll be finishing the floor today and moving a couple lights around. Gotta make time to build a rod for my Grandson's Christmas present too.

The goal this winter is Atlantic Salmon flies. Got some stuff on order....been watching videos and perusing my library. I think I'm ready.



Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: mbart on Nov 14, 2015, 02:10 PM
not much of a fly tier, my dropper above a hali or jig, crude but it works

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Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 14, 2015, 02:20 PM
It works....that's what really counts!

Been working on a few more. Nymphs woven with Sey Floss.
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The new vise is nice ;D

Rg



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Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: flukeman on Nov 14, 2015, 03:06 PM
RG,

That vise is a beast!  Very nice set up.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: PACKERBACKER on Nov 14, 2015, 03:08 PM
great lookin' work Bob. What year is that mer ;)cury head dime in the picture?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: redneckdan on Nov 14, 2015, 03:17 PM
Nice.

Pheasant tails, Hares ears and copper johns of various colors are all solid choices.

I tie foam post disco midges in #16-24 and size the post for neutral buoyancy. I tie it on a 1lb 6" dropper below a small swedish pimple. When the stocker rainbows are being ass faces I whip that sucker out and fling it down the hole. Jig it a bit then let the nymph hover around. Trout nail the heck out of it.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 14, 2015, 03:22 PM
Post some pics of those midges. Love to see them.

Yeah, the vise does some tricks. It'll be a while before I can make it work to potential. The pedestal base is taking some getting used to. I've always tied on a fixed base. I may make provisions to anchor it to the bamboo cutting board I use. I was thinking about some simple hold down clamps. Can't wait to get into some bigger hooks with it.

That's a 1943 Mecury Bill.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: legend on Nov 14, 2015, 03:41 PM
rgfixit, nice work ! i have tied since 1969, and mostly drys..and wooly buggers. you sir do fine work and jogged the memory....i had better get out the vise and see if any of my creations will fool fish through the ice. thanks for reminding an old guy to get busy.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 14, 2015, 03:54 PM
Never give up! They gotta eat something sooner or later ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: mbart on Nov 14, 2015, 05:54 PM
Never give up! They gotta eat something sooner or later ;D

Rg
that's what makes the dropper so effective, bigger fish ignore the baited hali / jig, take the fly
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 14, 2015, 06:15 PM
Shhhhhhhhhhhh!

Ancient Chinese secret.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Mac Attack on Nov 15, 2015, 04:47 PM

Gotta make time to build a rod for my Grandson's Christmas present too.

Rg


Good man!!!

 ;)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 15, 2015, 05:57 PM
He's a good boy.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 17, 2015, 04:47 PM
Another nymph pattern I've been working on for the ice. Caddis Fly Pupae.

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It's weighted with a flat lead underbody. A bugger to tie, but looks great.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2015, 04:37 AM
How about a PT Nymph Jig ;D

I'll skip the narrative. Just ask if you need some info.

1/64 fly jig, #10 hook
SM gold wire
Pheasant tail fibers
Peacock hurl
Brown 6/0 uni
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I switch over from wire to uni at this point.
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Have fun!

Rg


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Nov 20, 2015, 06:57 AM
not much of a fly tier, my dropper above a hali or jig, crude but it works

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that could work steelies
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Loso015 on Nov 20, 2015, 08:10 AM
This has inspired me to add a station to my fishing room in the new place im headed to. Awesome stuff.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2015, 08:25 AM
This has inspired me to add a station to my fishing room in the new place im headed to. Awesome stuff.

Very worthwhile past time. Do you have a vise?

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Loso015 on Nov 20, 2015, 08:52 AM
No. It just means I get to go shopping.  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TakinYoDuckets on Nov 20, 2015, 09:00 AM
RG you tie damn well, i tie mostly for my personal fly fishing stash for my clients.  Im sure your a fly fisherman by the techniques and patterns you tie.  the Jigged PT is after my own heart the fly is just a deadly in open water and on the ice.  Its a pleasure to see your patterns and I hope to add more but the early ice has me in the high country too much. 

Loso start cheap unless you really want to jump in feet first, a simple travel box vice will suffice.  They will usually come with some tools, i suggest spending the money for a decent to nice bobbin and the rest of the stuff you can go cheap on (whip finishes, bodkins, hackle pliers....). There is something very gratifying about catching a fish on a fly you personally tied. 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Big Red Shack on Nov 20, 2015, 09:18 AM
Wow, those look terriffic!! That PT Nymph Jig looks nice, big time! Gonna tie a few up this weekend! Thank for the ideas!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2015, 03:47 PM
Works for Hare's Ears too.

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Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2015, 04:07 PM
Buy good scissors. Dr. Slick are hard to beat for the money.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Loso015 on Nov 20, 2015, 04:24 PM
I tend to look at the good stuff. Never afraid to spend it for fishing if I think its gonna benefit my trips.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2015, 06:22 PM
I was gonna offer a vise. Love to see another get addicted.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Loso015 on Nov 20, 2015, 07:35 PM
I would be interested.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 21, 2015, 02:07 AM
I have a Danvise that I just replaced with a high end Dyna King. I tied on it for quite a few years. It's still good as new. Look up Danvise online and see if it's something you're interested in. I'd be happy to pass it along.

Bob
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 21, 2015, 02:28 AM
I made a couple improvements to the bench to accommodate the new vise. Picked up a bamboo cutting board from Wally World for a few bucks to use as a base. It has a nice groove around the perimeter to keep beads and stuff from rolling away. Easy on the eyes as a background. No reflected light to deal with. Good lighting is a must for us old guys.

Found a nice daylight LED desk lamp too for $20 and mounted it to the board to give me some natural light right where I wanted it.

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Also let in some heavy duty ceramic magnets flush with the surface to hold the vise base in place when I get to pulling on some Kevlar thread. Holds it like a rock now.

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I'm gonna add a flexible magnifier when I find the one I want and I have some ideas brewing for that blank piece of wall in front of me at the bench ;D

You've probably noticed the clipboard in the background on my bench. I use that as a profile plate when I'm tying. I change the paper color depending on the fly I'm tying to accent the fly outline. Grey, white and light blue all work well. I have astigmatism and sometimes trying to focus on small flies for extended periods of time with no immediate backdrop can give me headaches.  That little gem of a suggestion came from my opthamologist who happens to also be a fly fisher.

I love tinkering with stuff!

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Loso015 on Nov 21, 2015, 05:15 AM
Definitely interested!  We will have to meet up on the ice this year.  Where do you spend your time on the hardwater? I'd love to see your flies in the water on camera. Ever done that before?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 21, 2015, 11:39 AM
If I have my choice , I'm on Keuka or Canandaigua lake. But, I fish a lot of the finger lakes and Lake Ontario bays.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: redneckdan on Nov 21, 2015, 11:20 PM
I have been contemplating Lakers recently. I know bucktail jigs have a following around here.

This is essentially a modified articulated double deciever with an attached jig head. Idea is ability to change weight of the jig head to suit conditions. Still a work in progress...

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Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 22, 2015, 02:21 AM
A creative idea for sure.

Ever look at tying tube flies? There's a huge variety of weights available for them.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Nov 22, 2015, 03:16 AM

@redneckdan do you pour your own lead? mite want to look at the ear ball lure mold... made by doit mold company..it has to attachment point for the line and one for the  lure like the snap end on yours you could make your own for very cheap .. by the way nice tie none the less....   
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: redneckdan on Nov 22, 2015, 09:29 AM
I did some digging last night and found a company that makes a jig head with integrated clip. I will order some monday.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Raptortrapper on Nov 22, 2015, 05:38 PM
Hey guys.  I know.... I know...  I'm not from New York, but one of the other members showed me this thread, and I love tying flies.  So I wanted to throw some flies up that I tied in the last few days.  Hope ya don't mind!!

I just got serious about ice fishing at the end of last season.  This year, Drew got me interested in palm rods, and I've got some ordered and on the way.  Going to use some 1.5# and 2.2# Stroft on the palm rods, and these #18 and #20 bead head flies.  These are my three favorite bead heads (Pheasant Tail, Hare's Ear, and Prince Nymph) in the trout rivers and panfish ponds around here, so figured I would tie them up and give them a shot through the ice for some small bluegills and yellow perch in the shallows.  Now, let's see if I can get these pictures to post on here.  Sorry if they turn out crappy.  I used the camera on my Droid. 

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Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: 3300 on Nov 22, 2015, 05:44 PM
looking good! they all look good to me. i need to do more of that and not just foam spiders.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 23, 2015, 01:58 AM

Everyone is welcome here!

Very nice ties Raptor. Well proportioned. I like your take on the PT nymph.

Ever watch this video of Frank Sawyer tying his PT Nymph?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=416Os9V84n8 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=416Os9V84n8)

Shows how we've interpreted his original.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Raptortrapper on Nov 23, 2015, 07:12 AM
Thank you RG.  Thanks for that video also!  I had not seen that video of Frank.  Sure is something how things change over time.  I added flashback on mine just because I know bluegill and perch like shiny stuff.  At least in my experience, shiny stuff has always worked a little better when I'm targeting those two species.  So while tying that one up, I thought I would change the casing up a little bit and give it a shot.  Also used copper wire on the abdomen to add just a bit more weight since it is such a tiny fly.  I'll be using it on a palm rod, so wanted to give a bit of weight so I can see it a little easier on the indicator. 

I like your woven flies.  That is one thing I've never been able to do.  I am a little A.D.D., and can't sit still very long.  I love tying flies, but can only manage to sit at the desk for 30 to 45 minutes at a time, then I gotta get up and go do something else.  There are times when I can tie for hours on end, but I bet it only happens about 2 or 3 times a year.  I usually stock up on my flies over the course of the winter since it gets so dark so early.  A half hour an evening lets me really stock up on my flies for the coming spring and summer.  Then I can be out USING the flies instead of TYING the flies!!  ;D

There are two books that pretty much taught me how to tie flies.  I had been tying since 1986, but didn't get serious about new techniques till I found these two books:  "The fly tiers benchside reference to techniques and dressing styles" and "Charlie Craven's Basic Fly Tying."  With those two books, a person can tie darn near anything!  Woven patterns are something I'd like to learn..... someday.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Raptortrapper on Nov 23, 2015, 07:24 AM
Hey RG, how do ya like that Dyna King vice?  I have been tying on a Peak Rotary for a long time, and have been thinking about getting a dedicated midge vice.  Tying anything smaller than a #18 gets pretty difficult on my Peak because the jaws are so wide and beefy.  Also thinking about a Renzetti Presentation or Mater.  Any thoughts on these vices?? 

I practically stole my Peak vice off ebay.  Got it for $10 opening bid in the middle of the winter several years ago.  Couldn't believe it.  Got it so cheap I can't afford to sell it! ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 23, 2015, 08:00 AM
Frank used lamp cord wire and nothing else in his day. I've seen a few videos featuring him. He never used a bobbin either. Half hitch tool and a hackle pliars and scissors were about it.

So far I like the Dynaking. That said I've ordered the midge jaws as well. Also, having worked as a gunsmith for a while, I couldn't accept the stiffness of the locking lever and jaws. They come finished to about a 320 surface. I polished all the components and find it much better. Kinda like dropping a replacement competition trigger in a stock long distance target rifle.

I'm finishing up some additions to the bench right now. When I'm done I'll do a bit on my favorite weaves. They're really easy once you do a couple.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Raptortrapper on Nov 23, 2015, 08:07 AM
I can't even begin to imagine tying without my Right bobbin!  Don't know how he did it.

Yeah I'm interested to see those weaves.  Start me off with an easy one!! ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TakinYoDuckets on Nov 23, 2015, 08:38 AM
Hey RG, how do ya like that Dyna King vice?  I have been tying on a Peak Rotary for a long time, and have been thinking about getting a dedicated midge vice.  Tying anything smaller than a #18 gets pretty difficult on my Peak because the jaws are so wide and beefy.  Also thinking about a Renzetti Presentation or Mater.  Any thoughts on these vices?? 

I practically stole my Peak vice off ebay.  Got it for $10 opening bid in the middle of the winter several years ago.  Couldn't believe it.  Got it so cheap I can't afford to sell it! ;D
Raptor i tie midges on mine a lot... i suggest you look in to the midge jaws for the peak rotary.  they run about 40-50 bucks and would be more cost effective than a new vice.
http://www.amazon.com/PEAK-Rotary-Vise-Midge-Jaw/dp/B003APP9UI
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Raptortrapper on Nov 23, 2015, 08:54 AM
Raptor i tie midges on mine a lot... i suggest you look in to the midge jaws for the peak rotary.  they run about 40-50 bucks and would be more cost effective than a new vice.
http://www.amazon.com/PEAK-Rotary-Vise-Midge-Jaw/dp/B003APP9UI

That'll work!!!!  Didn't know they made those!!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TakinYoDuckets on Nov 23, 2015, 09:18 AM
That'll work!!!!  Didn't know they made those!!  Thanks!
We sell them out of the shop here, they work great, you wont be disappointed.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Raptortrapper on Nov 23, 2015, 09:50 AM
PM you for the order?  Do ya do paypal?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 25, 2015, 04:57 AM
I've been tinkering with the bench again. Decided to make use of that blank wall that was in front of me.
Storage
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsyd7lukcy.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsyd7lukcy.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsbflemxby.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsbflemxby.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsfzpbuub9.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsfzpbuub9.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsxwrf6glx.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsxwrf6glx.jpeg.html)

It's getting there. Hope to finish the floor this weekend.

Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TakinYoDuckets on Nov 25, 2015, 08:46 AM
Your bench is coming along quite well, I would have to put some kind of dowels in that cutting board, so I had places to put the bobbins I was using but not right this second.  Its sad to say Im happy that someone else is as O.C.D. about their trying area as I am.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: frogmaster on Nov 25, 2015, 08:53 AM
All those nice benches makes my shoe box from 1985 look like crap  ::)  but I still LUV doing it.

Bless
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 25, 2015, 02:41 PM
Seems it's always changing a little here or there. I like to be able to find the things I want without rummaging. I'll tie on it for a while and see how it goes, but it feels pretty comfortable.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Loso015 on Nov 25, 2015, 05:58 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Elrik on Nov 25, 2015, 09:15 PM
Rg if you are looking for any adult children to adopt, i will send over my resume. Your fly area is truly drool worthy.  I understand almost everything you have set up there. My one question is why so many scissors?  I thought my wife had a large amount for her sewing, but you have twice what she does! I understand curved blades/straight blades, some for harder materials, others for fine, but you sure seem to have a lot out and ready.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 26, 2015, 01:35 AM
If you're wondering why I'm up at this hour, the full moon and perfectly clear skies took exact aim at my pillow through the bedroom window. Kinda like trying to sleep with an aircraft landing light in my face. Thought I'd check in before curling up on my comfy couch till morning.

Second only to your brain, scissors are your most important tying tool.

Anyway, yes, I have a lot of scissors. There's more actually. I don't use my tying scissors to cut stuff like wire,  foam or thin skin which has a paper backing (cutting paper is a death sentence for fine scissors) . I have a few pairs of utility scissors for those purposes. So in answer to your question, I'm a tool guy. I've got lots of tools for the things I do. I've never found one pair of scissors that would cut all the different materials we use with equal efficiency so I just started buying them as I found them. I mostly use Dr Slick scissors. I have Gingher's, Fiskars and a few with no names.

If I had deeper pockets I'd be using Sajou or Dovo scissors. But the Dr Slick's cut pretty well and are comfortable to use. I've tried Anvil, Tiemco, Orvis, Loon.....even tried some Mark Pettijean at a show once. They didn't feel like $100 scissors to me.

I think in time most of my tools are going to end up in front of me on that little wall I'm building. I kinda like them there. ;D

Enjoy your thanksgiving with your family and friends everyone! Remember to take a moment to thank those who put their lives on the line to provide the freedom and safety we take for granted every day!

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Nov 26, 2015, 02:33 AM
Started playing with some tungsten beads

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/Ice%20fishing/received_10153395721286748_zps77umwuub.jpeg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/Ice%20fishing/received_10153395721286748_zps77umwuub.jpeg.html)

Next to a 4mm Fiska
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/Ice%20fishing/20151123_234741_zpsyubewvic.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/Ice%20fishing/20151123_234741_zpsyubewvic.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 26, 2015, 06:40 AM
Nice ties! Those ought to work well.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Nov 26, 2015, 07:16 AM
great flys and some nice photos
thanks for sharing,going to try some
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Elrik on Nov 26, 2015, 11:35 AM
Great bead heads jthod!  Should serve you well this winter.

Thanks for the answer regarding the scissors rg, you have sated my curiousity.

Have a great thanksgiving guys.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 26, 2015, 05:10 PM
Happy to help. Bad part is, you have me thinking about those Dovo scissors now. I mean....what the heck.....new vise and all. Maybe Santa will be good to me again.  ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 02, 2015, 08:26 AM
Here's the latest scud pattern I've been playing with.
Lead foil tape, cut with a fabric cutter. I use lightweight vinyl shower curtain for scud back. It cuts nicely with the fabric cutter .
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpssq3c8dzy.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpssq3c8dzy.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsmawvzmnh.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsmawvzmnh.jpeg.html)

 Build  a tapered lead body and center a red glass bead
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsud4jixyv.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsud4jixyv.jpeg.html)

Start thread behind the bead, tie in a small clump of mallard flank, 4 lb. green stren for rib and strip of scud back. Dub to the bead.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps0es9smiy.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps0es9smiy.jpeg.html)

Bring the scud back and rib forward, secure it behind the bead. Then, finish to the head. Tease out some fibers for legs.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsksyhkfxi.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsksyhkfxi.jpeg.html)

Ties pretty quickly and looks pretty good.

Rg



Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TeeBugg on Dec 02, 2015, 04:07 PM
dang rg....send some my way!!!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 02, 2015, 04:27 PM
Ya need to get yourself a vise bud! You can stop by any time for instruction ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TeeBugg on Dec 02, 2015, 07:07 PM
May just do that! Then again with all my other hobbies I'm sure the wife would kill me lol
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 03, 2015, 06:56 AM
Well, at least you're not chasing women around in bars.

I hope ;D

You're welcome any time.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 05, 2015, 12:05 PM
So I added this LED light a while back. I liked the light but not the arm. Also I found that I was having some problems focusing on the fly with a kind of busy background. So, I decided it was time for a profile plate. Aft looking at the provides and design of most of the OEM stuff, I made my own. Last think I wanted was something that attached to the vise. No need for additional clutter.

Found a couple of flexible USB fans for $.50 each in the bargain aisle at Wally World. Then it was time for more fun with magnets. First thing I did was remount the light.

Before
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsfzpbuub9.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsfzpbuub9.jpeg.html)

After
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsu0jwjzwy.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsu0jwjzwy.jpeg.html)

A bit of tinkering later
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsleusdyzn.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsleusdyzn.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsxiiyuqe3.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsxiiyuqe3.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpskpbpxunv.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpskpbpxunv.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsvztvgatg.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsvztvgatg.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpshiskvxkn.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpshiskvxkn.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsrt7ytwfb.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsrt7ytwfb.jpeg.html)

Now I can quick change background colors. So far I like the tan and blue best.

Fun tinkering.

Rg


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Gnatter on Dec 07, 2015, 08:25 PM
Well, now I will have to remove the single hooks I have on a couple #2 Swedish Pimples and tie one on!  Might be just the trick for panfish. @)

I like them on a Hali, pimple or Kastmaster, but mostly I'll fish them as a dropper above a tungsten jig. I got some new material in the mail yesterday and the midge jaws for my vise should be here today. More stuff to play with ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Dec 07, 2015, 08:49 PM
Love the workspace rg! And....... those scuds look familiar  ;)2 :bow: :bow: :bow: :icefish:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trundog on Dec 08, 2015, 01:58 PM
Nice job on the work space RG, it was nice to see the progression through  this thread
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 08, 2015, 04:13 PM
Thanks. I like playing with work areas almost as much as tying and building rods. I've built several shops in my years. It's always a challenge to blend form, function and space.

Anyway, I finally got the midge jaws for my new vise.

Standard jaws with a #16 scud
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsndbnfz0i.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsndbnfz0i.jpeg.html)

Midge jaws, same scud
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsjyxxdqjv.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsjyxxdqjv.jpeg.html)

It holds smaller hooks rock solid.

I tied a few scuds to test it out
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsyaj0phsl.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsyaj0phsl.jpeg.html)

I like it. Lots of working room around the hook.

Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: PACKERBACKER on Dec 09, 2015, 07:07 AM
Those look great Bob ;)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 09, 2015, 07:15 AM
rg  I been tying scuds  for years for gills but they work great on Oneida lake  for perch too
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 09, 2015, 08:03 AM
Yup.....one of my favorites Trapper. Here's another one I've been working on.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpssysk6xjc.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpssysk6xjc.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsuvim7bbt.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsuvim7bbt.jpeg.html)

I like the ostrich herl for body material. The red flash stripe on the back has to be good.

You ought to get a vise Bill. You have all that free time now ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 09, 2015, 09:28 AM
I have  great luck with gray  as well rg ......... I just filled up my new rod case and  now I think i'll ride the motorcycle :roflmao:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 09, 2015, 02:34 PM
Yup....crazy weather for sure.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Loso015 on Dec 09, 2015, 03:58 PM
Awesome bench and great tying. Moving into the new place Tuesday and I can't wait to get started on my workshop and learn.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 11, 2015, 07:14 AM
Here's a couple more I've been working on,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsfee3qt0h.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsfee3qt0h.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsnexyover.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsnexyover.jpeg.html)

A couple of weaves with different materials.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TeeBugg on Dec 12, 2015, 08:16 AM
question for all the guys tying scuds....whats the best way to fish them?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 12, 2015, 08:31 AM
As a dropper either above a tungsten or below a small spoon, Hali, Kastmaster, pimple etc.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Dec 12, 2015, 09:02 AM
As a dropper either above a tungsten or below a small spoon, Hali, Kastmaster, pimple etc.

Rg
2X that. when i fish large bodys of water and deep over 25ft i will put on 4 or 5 about
a foot apart UP from the bottom , at a weed line, great for perch
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TeeBugg on Dec 12, 2015, 09:31 AM
thanks! ill have to give it a try. i have a few tungsten scuds/shrimp that i got last year!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: legend on Dec 12, 2015, 09:49 AM
boy i see i better step up my game, you guys are awesome !
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Dec 12, 2015, 05:56 PM
What do you guys like to use for scud tail/antennae? I've tried just a wisp of dubbing, dyed deer hair tips and PT fiber tips... All have looked OK but there must be a better option.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Dec 12, 2015, 11:48 PM
What do you guys like to use for scud tail/antennae? I've tried just a wisp of dubbing, dyed deer hair tips and PT fiber tips... All have looked OK but there must be a better option.

what about staked hackle like from a neck hackle to large to tie with...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Dec 13, 2015, 01:05 AM
here is a fresh tie



(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2553_zpsgdnp4nzg.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2553_zpsgdnp4nzg.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 13, 2015, 04:34 AM
Good looking scud there Chilly!

I think I like barred mallard or wood duck  fibers about the best.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpshh6kwtyg.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpshh6kwtyg.jpeg.html)

Nice mottling and available in many dyed colors although I tend to use only natural and cinnamon.  Even better is having a friend who duck hunts save some for you. I have some back feathers from a lesser scaup coming my way from a thoughtful friend.

Truth is, any hen hackle fibers are suitable. I've also used crystal flash for ice flies as well.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Dec 13, 2015, 09:03 AM
here is a fresh tie



(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2553_zpsgdnp4nzg.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2553_zpsgdnp4nzg.jpg.html)
i like that one,great looking,the water will move all the hairs
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 13, 2015, 04:27 PM
Took a whack at some spikes for when the gills are really fussy and I need to get down to a single spike on a tiny hook.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpsyit3lhzt.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpsyit3lhzt.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsjdh9brhe.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsjdh9brhe.jpeg.html)

Might work. Fun anyway ;D
Rg


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Elrik on Dec 13, 2015, 07:45 PM
I would eat those ones!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Dec 13, 2015, 09:58 PM
I started tying crappie jigs out of a kit earlier this year then found this thread on MFF and that was it.. Next came a 5 wt. .. then more tying materials now a new vise. I'm still pretty green, but learning quick...only limit is time and lack of materials...still nothing like getting lost at the bench for a couple hours!
(http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag33/MattyP5290/IMG_0748_zpsfpynxswm.jpg) (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/MattyP5290/media/IMG_0748_zpsfpynxswm.jpg.html)
Foam and summer stuff is in the closet and repurposed an old shelf to organize.
(http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag33/MattyP5290/IMG_0751_zps2r0nkcld.jpg) (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/MattyP5290/media/IMG_0751_zps2r0nkcld.jpg.html)
A buddy gave me a pheasant tail (pheasants are running rampant here.) Wanted to send him a picture of my PT nymth from the bird he killed, but iPhone had trouble, caught a cool shadow trying though.   P.S please don't pick on my scuds.. I'm getting better and better
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 14, 2015, 03:16 AM
I knew we had you hooked last summer. I like your work space.

Nice progress! Your scuds look great! Pm me your address and I'll send you some stuff to play with.

Talk to your deer hunting friends and get ahold of some tails and hair patches. i also collect goose flight feathers at the park where they hang out. Duck hunters are good to know too  ;D

Fly tying materials are everywhere. Those spikes I just tied have strips of latex glove for the back.

I should start a thread on home made fly tying tools and materials.
Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 14, 2015, 07:56 AM
Here's a fun tie for ice. RG's "Clump Of Spikes".
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpspgec1wbs.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpspgec1wbs.jpeg.html)

I'll skip the narrative unless you have questions.

#10 200R
.030 lead
6/0 uni
Cream ultra chenille
Some kind of wing flash (I forget which it is.)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpssyqmojc3.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpssyqmojc3.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsisyz17s2.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsisyz17s2.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsrgbkq9kc.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsrgbkq9kc.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpswpvbe6qq.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpswpvbe6qq.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsszhcs9ln.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsszhcs9ln.jpeg.html)


I use dubbing loops for the spikes and flash.
There's carp killers in the warm months as well.

Have fun!

Rg



Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Dec 14, 2015, 08:55 AM
Here's a fun tie for ice. RG's "Clump Of Spikes".
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpspgec1wbs.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpspgec1wbs.jpeg.html)

I'll skip the narrative unless you have questions.

#10 200R
.030 lead
6/0 uni
Cream ultra chenille
Some kind of wing flash (I forget which it is.)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpssyqmojc3.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpssyqmojc3.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsisyz17s2.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsisyz17s2.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsrgbkq9kc.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsrgbkq9kc.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpswpvbe6qq.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpswpvbe6qq.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsszhcs9ln.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsszhcs9ln.jpeg.html)


I use dubbing loops for the spikes and flash.
There's carp killers in the warm months as well.

Have fun!

Rg
That's clever as heck RG!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Dec 14, 2015, 11:28 AM
that is one great fly,
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 14, 2015, 02:54 PM
Looks like a bunch of spikes don't it  ;D ;D

I love this stuff.



Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 14, 2015, 03:38 PM
looks like maggots to me
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 14, 2015, 04:38 PM
Well that's an endorsement I can accept.
Thanks Trapper.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Loso015 on Dec 15, 2015, 07:35 PM
That's awesome. Gotta hammer some perch on that..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 17, 2015, 06:46 AM
RG  i'm going to  do up a  few  of  you maggot flies  on 1/64 jig heads  and  try in open water for  perch ...then I  got thinking why not  try a  few on steelies????  you  can even  change the  color a bit  and have a  goop of pink worm!  the  single  spike  sorta  looks  like a  caddis  larva and  the  maggot  fly looks  like a  bunch ......hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I had a  strange dream of releasing a  16 in rainbow  last night  .......hmmmmmmm

                                                                                                        life is good ....so are small heat bills
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 17, 2015, 06:58 AM
That's OK Trapper. I've stolen more than my share of ideas from you ;D

I started on some of the jig flies using the slotted tungsten beads. I like the way they look and balance.

Woke up  around 2:30 this morning thinking of building a light box to properly photograph some of the flies. But, that's another story.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 17, 2015, 07:54 AM
i'm no center pin freak  but I think  the RG Miracle Maggot  fly drifted  under a stick bobber  down a slow  run would  be  the  ticket  for  some chrome action ..... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 17, 2015, 10:22 AM
Getting a little better at trying these tricky little things.
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/Ice%20fishing/20151215_220915_zpsuwvcrdpy.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/Ice%20fishing/20151215_220915_zpsuwvcrdpy.jpg.html)
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/Ice%20fishing/20151210_225807_zpsicqgjonf.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/Ice%20fishing/20151210_225807_zpsicqgjonf.jpg.html)

Any tips you guys have for tying scuds?
 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 17, 2015, 10:50 AM
JT the way your  tying  were going to be asking you for  tips!!!!  nice looking flies  man
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Raquettedacker on Dec 17, 2015, 11:07 AM
Here's a fun tie for ice. RG's "Clump Of Spikes".


    Those look great..  How well do they sink? 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 17, 2015, 03:06 PM
Oh, they'll sink ok Dom. Plenty of weight there.

JT, your scuds look great.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: hardwater diehard on Dec 17, 2015, 03:27 PM
RG your Clump of spikes ...are awesome ...you may have triggered the fly tying itch switch in my noggin ....I have said it before the talent on this website never ceases to amaze me  .
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 17, 2015, 04:10 PM
Here's a few more I've been playing with. They're a take on a woven Czech nymph. A "Jig Fly"
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsjnvowdal.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsjnvowdal.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsywf1xnet.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsywf1xnet.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpstyggdrgr.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpstyggdrgr.jpeg.html)

Dig out the vise DH ;D
It's a fun, creative, productive past time.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Dec 17, 2015, 11:31 PM
did a few jigs for you steel headers this year lol's since we got no ice yet!


cray fish 1/32 oz

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2558_zps0bxnrnfm.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2558_zps0bxnrnfm.jpg.html)

stone fly 1/64 oz head

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2559_zpsgetkzo14.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2559_zpsgetkzo14.jpg.html)

steel head candy pink, in white and pink... stone fly hair grub , another stone fly... all in the same photo..
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2563_zpsncrr4xfy.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2563_zpsncrr4xfy.jpg.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2562_zpsggdcnram.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2562_zpsggdcnram.jpg.html)

just for you steel headers the hot flies this last year were these... and I threw in one that could be for bass too so hay why not 

 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 18, 2015, 02:09 AM
Very creative!
Love the crayfish!

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 18, 2015, 07:52 AM
So, I've been playing with how to best photograph my flies. Built a little light box as an experiment.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsagebsift.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsagebsift.jpeg.html)

I think it's making a difference. Really makes the colors pop.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsh4jyy6zy.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsh4jyy6zy.jpeg.html)

Any suggestions from the photo guys would be a big help. I'm just kind of winging it.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Dec 18, 2015, 10:01 AM
very cool idea on a light box rg.. could try playing with the bulbs stuff like crt or color rendering index will affect the shot the crt is a number that causes glare in perfect white.. kind if like you go to a diamond shop and the diamond really glare light and sparkle at you.. paly with the color temperature too...this could be red and blue white green or what ever...color temps see if you need to up it or dial it back  in your photo's the color temp is like a drafting room you go in from a dimly lit hall way to a bright over powering white room the reason for the bright coloration is so you can see what is on the paper when it is drafted...and the hall way is just regularly lit with light.. but from what I see here you got a great start no glare and the light color is helping  the lure colors pop so how can it be wrong thus far.. might have to play with the crt In the future  if your getting a lot of glare or color temp but so far looks good... you must already know about macro mode and macro lens cause you got a few close ups...   



seems a like a little glare in the center cause I can not make out the  dubbing that well on the wax worm flies but for sure a good shot     
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 18, 2015, 02:20 PM
Thanks for the input.
I understand color temps etc. the lamps I'm using are 5000k or there abouts. I mixed In an LED that appears to be in the 4100k range to try and emphasize the softer color scale.

I might play with different diffusion materials and backgrounds. The back drop now is generic white poster board. Gotta get to a craft store tomorrow and pick up some different colors. The camera is a Sony DSC HX100. Nice cybershot camera, easy to use ( obviously) but it's difficult to get really good macro shots with that lens.

Fun to play with though.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Dec 18, 2015, 06:42 PM
do you got a maco lens or the camera that will help greatly that camera is almost the same as my dads... for single fly shots... my dads  it has a macro lens and a wide angle lens for better shots can even get fish eye lens for it....  but for sure if you don't have one get the macro lens for it... your not really to use wide angle for these shot just a standard angle or some times macro.... have you been using the function were it ticks down then snap the pic after gone (looks like you have cause it not all blurry) called the self timer function? that way your sure not to have any shaking etc... and ya I think changing the back grounds will help for sure like a darker back ground of gray or even blue for them white flies try fabric's it may cut the glare a tad  like from the poster board sheen... but for sure a great start!!! my dad has a older Fuji fine pix's 12 mega pixel camera with the macro and wide angle lens I think it is a 5100 series but I would have to look.. I got a reg point and shoot 14 m pixel that I just have fun with right now... any how you did a awesome job at it would love to see some more awesome shots from you!!!       
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 19, 2015, 01:51 AM
The Sony, although it shoots as an SLR, has a single 27-810mm zeiss lens. I'm tempted to buy an SLR, but I don't feel I've reached the limits of this camera's potential as yet. Really, I've only scratched the surface of what it can do. It's so simple to operate automatically, that I rarely change any settings.

Anyway, I'll keep playing.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 19, 2015, 08:56 AM
How about a glob of Scuds ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsigohr7lu.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsigohr7lu.jpeg.html)

I think a glob of worms is next.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: sodussut on Dec 19, 2015, 02:10 PM
might work for perch too!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TeeBugg on Dec 20, 2015, 09:25 AM
rg....just take my money already! clump of spikes!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 20, 2015, 01:13 PM
Sorry, I'm just a big tease. I don't sell them.

Get a vise man!

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 20, 2015, 01:23 PM
How do you go about making the spikes?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 20, 2015, 01:47 PM
Look back a page. There's a step by step.
The spikes are pieces of cream colored ultra chenille. I burn the ends with an alcohol lamp.  They end up looking pretty realistic.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 20, 2015, 05:15 PM
the RG  Maggot Flie just looks like  fish would eat that
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 21, 2015, 07:34 AM
How about some of RG's  UV Ants.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsp3xcg10c.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsp3xcg10c.jpeg.html)

I think there's possibilities ;D

Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TeeBugg on Dec 21, 2015, 12:14 PM
After Christmas I may just get a vise!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 21, 2015, 02:00 PM
Another one bites the duat ;D ;D ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 21, 2015, 04:44 PM
Scuds are getting there.

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/Ice%20fishing/20151220_204905_zpsjlzzlrwm.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/Ice%20fishing/20151220_204905_zpsjlzzlrwm.jpg.html)

Waiting on a shipment from china of about 100 tungsten beads of various sizes and colors.  Of course, I had some offer to buy a bunch and didn't have the parts to make them.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 21, 2015, 05:58 PM
I just got an order from Flyshack in Gloversville NY. Bought a bunch of nymph and klinkhammer hooks. Ordered Friday, got them today. Their prices were very reasonable ($7 / 100) and shipping was acceptable at $5 given the super fast delivery. I'll be ordering from them again for sure.

Love buying from a native supplier.

The scuds are looking great. Try some ostrich herl for the body material if you get your hands on some.

What are you using for the shell back?

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 21, 2015, 06:50 PM
I got a HUGE box of materials and tools from a deceased relative, so I've been using stuff from that.

There were 3 unlabeled baggies that had sharpie written "Scud back" on them.  It is a clear stretchy plastic material, probably some off the shelf scud back that was just put into the bags.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 22, 2015, 03:08 AM
I'm sure the last tire to use that stuff would appreciate that it's in use now. Try some lighweight shower curtain liner. It's clear vinyl and tougher than scud back strips. $2 gets you a lifetime supply. Easily colored with art markers or sharpies.

I made some strip cutting tools out of Popsicle sticks and double edged razor blades. Sometimes I just use a rolling fabric cutter.

Anyway, the scuds are looking good.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Loso015 on Dec 22, 2015, 05:57 AM
Rg I wish you could put all your advice in a book. Some talent you have there. Hoping to start learning here soon. Still need to build my bench and get a vice and materials.  Busy moving still...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 22, 2015, 08:32 AM
Thanks for the shower curtain tip.  I've seen that mentioned a few times.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: TakinYoDuckets on Dec 22, 2015, 08:47 AM
RG don't forget your good old friend the sow bug... been punishing fish with them in here in the high mountains.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: merkleyb on Dec 23, 2015, 01:59 AM
So, I've been playing with how to best photograph my flies. Built a little light box as an experiment.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsagebsift.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsagebsift.jpeg.html)

I think it's making a difference. Really makes the colors pop.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsh4jyy6zy.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsh4jyy6zy.jpeg.html)

Any suggestions from the photo guys would be a big help. I'm just kind of winging it.

Rg
I think you need to plug in one more thing in that power strip
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 23, 2015, 02:42 AM
Might just do that. I was looking at some new bulbs yesterday. They're an adjustable light spectrum led controlled by smart phone or tablet. A bit pricy at $30 + $44 for a control module, but I may get crazy after the holidays.

It would be nice to be able to vary the warmth as needed.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 24, 2015, 08:18 AM
Been playing with some material I found at the dollar store. "Fake hair"
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsb112hajg.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsb112hajg.jpeg.html)


Makes an interesting woven nymph.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps3ilujcqr.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps3ilujcqr.jpeg.html)

Materials are everywhere  ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 24, 2015, 05:51 PM
I really like using the fishair on my inlines for pike/musky/bass.

 I did find it pretty tricky to her the thread to hold it though.  Very slick material, but has great action.

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/fishing/20150929_083630_zpsljusiqk8.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/fishing/20150929_083630_zpsljusiqk8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 25, 2015, 03:04 AM
Get yourself a thread waxer from a fabric shop or online.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpshluqwgzj.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpshluqwgzj.jpeg.html)

Some have bees wax, some have a type of paraffin. I use the paraffin.
It will help tremendously with holding slippery materials in place. You could also make some cobblers wax pellets. Recipes can be found online. Thread wax is a staple of the pros who tie traditional flies like the Atlantic salmon flies. I stumbled on to it watching Davie McPhail's tying videos.

Rg


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Dec 25, 2015, 06:57 AM
that and the tac-l tool model 20 for janns net craft .com it use to make those wire spinner baits also can be use to wax thread so get the book for it on tackle trick with wire I just got the kit for Christmas so it maybe out of stock or back ordered for a little while...just a heads up you can get the same set up on ebay for $25 plus $12.95 s&h but you get wire with the net craft kit so better deal some cool stuff In that book so you may want it just a heads up! even if you do not make your own spinner even if you troll lures etc.. etc... they even have plans on how to make bobbin for fly tying in it... tons of plan in it .... real neat stuff...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Mac Attack on Dec 25, 2015, 09:57 PM


Makes an interesting woven nymph.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps3ilujcqr.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps3ilujcqr.jpeg.html)

Materials are everywhere  ;D

Rg


I really like these bob.
Awesome job.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Raquettedacker on Dec 26, 2015, 05:43 AM
I really like these bob.Awesome job.


     Hint. Hint.    ;)    ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 26, 2015, 05:45 PM
Mac's far from bashful. If he wanted some he'd ask ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 29, 2015, 06:42 PM
Tried out some zooplankton jigs.

1. Tied on the hackle facing the eye of the hook.

2. Added internal color with floss.

3. Threaded on tungsten slotted tear drop. (found them on ebay from Aventik)

4. Coated jig with cheap 60 second set 2 part epoxy.

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/Ice%20fishing/20151229_182444_zpsvcbg6btq.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/Ice%20fishing/20151229_182444_zpsvcbg6btq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: merkleyb on Dec 30, 2015, 12:15 AM
Those look awesome! Let me know when you're having a sale...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 30, 2015, 02:22 AM
Ooooo! I like those.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Dec 30, 2015, 03:51 AM
jthod those are awesome.. have you tried rod finish instead of 2 hour set epoxy?  some thing like thread mater lite or high build? thread master lite is the clearest  stuff I came across so far for  finishes I use Devcon and gorilla glue epoxies like 5 minute set for rod handles etc etc... but those cure so quick the bubbles don't have time to release from the epoxy.... then they  get a milky white look with bubbles in the epoxy....  you need a fly turner the kind with a foam block on a bbq rotisserie  motor...   let tyhem dry in it for at least 24 hours that's 12 hour of harden time and leave them in the foam don't touch the flies till it is perfectly dry to the touch... check the mixed epoxy in the pot / cup for sticky ness ...  some times I touch my finished epoxy @12 hours and it is  to early and smudges are left behind ... is why I say that... by the way mix the epoxy 50/50 perfectly or it will harden to fast to much hardener or not cure at all to mush resin  if one is off by enough...  it is just a suggestion but I see crystal flash in the photo should wrap  that around the hook and put rod finish over it???so it sparkles under neath  the epoxy...those ice flies are awesome so let see what they look like after the rod finish  idea?  as a mater of fact I got some thread master sitting around mite try it my slef....  thanks for the idea if any thing.....


 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Raquettedacker on Dec 30, 2015, 06:47 AM
I got some awesome ice flies ,made out of peacock feathers, in the mail and they look great..     :)
Tied some on a couple ice rods yesterday...  One above a Halie and one above a jig...
Now I need ice..

    Thank you KC....
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 30, 2015, 08:20 AM
The 60 second epoxy is far from ideal, but I had is sitting around.  It's nice that it sets up fast, but the finished product isn't as good and clear as it could be with better epoxy.

I don't think the fish will notice.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 30, 2015, 08:31 AM
I know I'm a broken record, but you gotta spring for some UV cure acrylic. So much easier.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 30, 2015, 11:05 AM
yeah, say that $30 2oz tube at the tackle shop this weekend, and laughed. 

maybe someday.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 30, 2015, 01:35 PM
Loon UV (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Loon-Outdoors-UV-Clear-Fly-Finish-Thick-2-oz-/331695901727?hash=item4d3a9dcc1f:g:FqMAAOSwo6lWNEr9)


Search a little and you'll get it for around $25. Don't buy their light. Way over priced. I can steer you in a good direction for around $10. A 2oz bottle will last you a really long time.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 30, 2015, 02:12 PM
That's the same brand the tackle shop had.

I have a UV light already for work, so I got that covered.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 30, 2015, 04:04 PM
The UV light needs to be between 375 and 450nm if I'm not mistaken.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Dec 30, 2015, 05:26 PM
Ah, not sure what this one is.  It's a light for detecting florescent dye in AC systems.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: merkleyb on Dec 30, 2015, 07:01 PM
I use my girls clear nail polish hardener. You may need a couple coats, but it dries hard and clear. And it's cheap - especially when you swipe it from your woman.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Dec 30, 2015, 07:02 PM
Rg you got me sold on the Loon acrylic. Just point me in a direction for the light. I looked @ UV lasers and they were all $25 and up. I leap at a $5 version.......or even $10.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Adkrs on Dec 30, 2015, 09:36 PM
So I was bored. Cruising IS waiting for ice.... Figured I'd see what this thread was all about. By the end of it I want to tie flies and see if I can't trick some gills or brookies!

 You guys are incredibly creative and very handy. Those spikes and scuds would fool me, let alone fool fish! Where should one look for somebody interested in starting out? Any recommended reading? Most of you seem to fish these as droppers, but what do you fish for? Im thinking I'm going to try to tie for brookies. I've never used a fly ice fishing, but I'm quite curious!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 31, 2015, 02:27 AM
Here you go Esox.
Laser Pointer (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5mw-405nm-Violet-Blue-UV-Laser-Pointer-Runs-on-2-AAA-Bat-Fast-Shipping-from-USA-/151757096128?hash=item23556d84c0:g:-lIAAOxyJypTkQR0)

It's the same one I use. 405nm. $10 + $2 shipping.

Adkrs,
I'm a fly fisher....almost year round. Tying keeps me from going coo kno in the off months. Using flies for ice fishing is just adaptation. Kind of a "Hey.....why not!". Turns out it works and opens up a whole new genre of flies to play with.

Tying your own just grows on you. The more you do....the more you do. I've given this same advice many times on this site and on MyFishfinder. Pick a fly you want to tie. Get the materials for that fly and work on it. Then move on.  You'll be surprised at how easy and fun it is.

There's a zillion YouTube videos you can watch. I like Tightlines videos a lot. They are very specific, simple and always offer a tip/trick or two. In fact, I was watching one the other day on a steelhead fly and learned a new technique for controlling thread on fussy materials. The Orvis web site always lists some, but you can search it and find their channel. The other I watch a lot of is Davie McPhail. He's a master......period. I've tried, and sometimes successfully, to copy many of his patterns. His knowledge of materials is unequaled in my opinion.

If you want a list of stuff to get you started, I'm sure we'll oblige. For now, all I'll say is, don't buy a kit! You'll outgrow it very quickly.

Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 31, 2015, 02:30 AM
I use my girls clear nail polish hardener. You may need a couple coats, but it dries hard and clear. And it's cheap - especially when you swipe it from your woman.

Man....I've looked at those setups more times than I can count. If only my Bride did her nails like that :-\

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: merkleyb on Dec 31, 2015, 03:34 AM
I bought a cheap kit when I started out. It came with a VHS tape made by Lefty Kreh. Great teacher.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 31, 2015, 04:25 AM
Thought is share a couple tips for using the UV cure stuff.

It likes to be warm. Not hot, just around 70-75 degrees. I found this scent warmer for those wax cube scents at goodwill for $1.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsjmxsvdrt.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsjmxsvdrt.jpeg.html)
Works the nuts.

Bodkins.....you can't have enough of an assortment of bodkins for fly tying. I make my own from various stuff. Darning needles from Wally World work great.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpszubndl9k.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpszubndl9k.jpeg.html)

As I said, I have a few UV lights. The laser pointer works the best.

Head cements etc. The head cements sold in fly shops are way overpriced as you'd expect. Get a variety of super glues and some Sally Hard As Nails and you have all you need. Zap a Gap is great stuff for certain applications.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsgas4lnwl.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsgas4lnwl.jpeg.html)
The Loctite brush on is one of my favorites.

Double edged razor blades are great tools too. Again, cheap at Wally World or Big Lots.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsmiaad6sk.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsmiaad6sk.jpeg.html)

And....don't forget your Popsicle sticks. All sorts of stuff you bpcan use them for like dubbing brushes and strip cutters.

Merklyb, I started with a pair of needle nose vise grips clamped to a bench and the good old Orvis fly tying guide. Still have it somewhere in my library ;D

Rg


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Dec 31, 2015, 05:20 AM
Rg
GREAT info, thanks will use it
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MochaMay on Dec 31, 2015, 05:59 AM
I'm just starting to tie my own hair jigs and this thread is the cats Meow!

THX for sharing all the info!

Also thought I would post a video link from a guy that ties his jigs on the ice while fishing. This guy has a ball! Fun video IMHO.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Dec 31, 2015, 06:13 AM
Thanks Bob, just ordered my UV pointer. I haven't been much into small stuff but I've got most of what I need anyway. Nice list for beginners too....... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 31, 2015, 06:55 AM
I'm just starting to tie my own hair jigs and this thread is the cats Meow!

THX for sharing all the info!

Also thought I would post a video link from a guy that ties his jigs on the ice while fishing. This guy has a ball! Fun video IMHO.


I've seen that guy's videos. He's a riot. Gets into the fish too.

Esox, let me know if you need anything.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 31, 2015, 07:00 AM
having tied a few flies  myself  I must say I am impressed  with the collection of  bodkins....bodkins are the  first tool that is  misplaced  and are  always  found in strange places  once you don't need  one....I personally belive  they are  moved  by bench demons  but  bobs  point of making them is   a good one  you can have  several when you need one ( I am the worse for laying stuff  down and  not seeing it after)  but  also using a  piece  of  dowl for a handle you  can make them fit your  hand much better then the  then ones you buy .....

ps I shave  with a  double edge razor  wal mart is the cheapest blades I found
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 31, 2015, 01:50 PM
Hey Trapper, I bought an item at Walmart that you told me about when we talked the other day. Several different colors. Found many more on line. Bought a little gun too. Started playing with them this morning. I like it!

On another note, Trapper was my inspiration to get back into tying after many years away from it. I lost all of my tying supplies and equipment in a bad basement flood and kind of gave up. With his encouragement and support I once again became hopelessly addicted to tying flies and fly fishing.

Thanks a lot you rotten SOB....you cost me a ton of money ;D ;D

Happy New Year bud! Health and prosperity to you and your family. I can never thank you enough.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Adkrs on Dec 31, 2015, 02:17 PM
Good stuff. I'll look into it. Fly fishing has been on the bucket list for awhile now. Was already planning on getting a kayak to fish some backwater adk ponds for trout. Might as well get into fly fishing too!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 31, 2015, 05:12 PM
like  fungus  fly tyings  kinda grows on ya

I never seen those  at wal mart !  play  with them   ihave  come  up with some  cool patterens  and  the  eggs really do  catch a lot of  fish
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 31, 2015, 05:22 PM
Let me know if you can't find them. I'll send some along.
Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 31, 2015, 05:33 PM
oh I  have   plenty  from all seasons  but glad  wally world had  them
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 02, 2016, 06:28 AM
I'm just starting to tie my own hair jigs and this thread is the cats Meow!

THX for sharing all the info!

Also thought I would post a video link from a guy that ties his jigs on the ice while fishing. This guy has a ball! Fun video IMHO.


Thanks for the link, Aaron's a trip. I've been addicted to his musky clips, he has some interesting takes on things and never gets too wrapped up in "perfection" (one of my problems). Toward that end this is probably a good place to share something Larry Dahlberg told me once: "It doesn't have to look perfect. I've seen gorgeous flies that can't catch a fish and others that look funky or unfinished yet just hammer 'em. It's about if they a good representation in the water. Do they work or act like something the fish want to check out or eat? That's what is most important." Good advice for beginners and people like me....

I've got literally boxes (and boxes) of bucktail sitting around and can pour lead in probably 20 different shapes and sizes from 1/64 to 3 oz. I played with some craft hair jigs a while back after In-Fish did an article on "float and fly". Very easy and very effective. Makes me wonder how those might do thru the ice on a deadstick. I'll have to dig 'em out and give a shot.

@Rg: Nice tip on the warmer. I know someone that will never miss one of hers...... >:D My basement runs a little cool in the winter.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 04, 2016, 06:42 AM
I have an extra vice I'll donate for someone that wants to get into tying .not an expensive one but gets the job done good days ahead to tie.send me a pm
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 04, 2016, 07:06 AM
Way to pay it forward bigguy!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: iceholez on Jan 04, 2016, 12:19 PM
Beautiful flies. Ive tied many many many flies but never for ice season.  Im very interested and trying some of these out!!!! Way to go and thanks for sharing. Cheers from a New York Native Colorado Lifer!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: iceholez on Jan 04, 2016, 12:21 PM
I have an extra vice I'll donate for someone that wants to get into tying .not an expensive one but gets the job done good days ahead to tie.send me a pm


Awesome! ;D

Give a man a Fly he will catch a fish. Teach a man to tie and well.................. .
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 04, 2016, 01:57 PM

Awesome! ;D

Give a man a Fly he will catch a fish. Teach a man to tie and well.................. .He'll be hooked

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 06, 2016, 06:30 AM
Been working on a few patterns.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpswtowiwwd.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpswtowiwwd.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsjwnsd9lr.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsjwnsd9lr.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpscejzpdpz.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpscejzpdpz.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsqufooepr.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsqufooepr.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsi2es4f89.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsi2es4f89.jpeg.html)

Keeps me from twiddling my thumbs ;D
Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Jan 06, 2016, 07:22 AM
real nice photos and some great flys.
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jiignut on Jan 06, 2016, 08:27 AM
Beautiful ! Do you guys thread a spike or waxy on or plain?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 06, 2016, 11:20 AM
Nice flys rg it looks like they should catch something I have ta get off my butt and tie a few..But then again little guy has been sick for a while he's just getting better now..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: bigal409 on Jan 06, 2016, 01:25 PM
Nice flys rg it looks like they should catch something I have ta get off my butt and tie a few..But then again little guy has been sick for a while he's just getting better now..
The little guy getting sick from Dads cooking?  :sick: :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 06, 2016, 01:34 PM
Beautiful ! Do you guys thread a spike or waxy on or plain?


Maybe a spike or two if necessary. Depends on their mood.

Hope Little Guy feels better quickly!

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 06, 2016, 06:21 PM
Nice flys rg it looks like they should catch something I have ta get off my butt and tie a few..But then again little guy has been sick for a while he's just getting better now..

Hahhh! I'm a grandpa now and my wife hates when I refer to the grandkids as "mobile cesspools of filth and pestilence".  :roflmao: Our kids grew up and moved out, right away I got healthier. I can count on one hand the colds and flu I've had since then (around 10 years or so.)

Public schools and kids....... sigh.

Good luck man! Hand washing is paramount. I've got a cancer patient in the house now plus I work in food processing so I'm pretty diligent. It helps!

An Rgs flies? Ahhhhh..... I'm perpetually jealous!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 07, 2016, 02:16 AM
No need to be jealous...just stretch those finger a bit and turn on the light over your vise.  Great therapy if nothing else.;D

A couple folks at work think I'm a bonafide germaphobe. I have a little bottle of hand sanitizer in my pocket all the time and use it a lot. You'd be ill just looking at the computer keyboards in the store. Then there's the iPod's we use. Who knows where they've been. I shake a lot of hands, handle shopping carts etc...etc...etc.

Bad enough that my bride works in a middle school with 1200 raging germ factories visiting her in the lunch line every day. One thing I learned when I was a facility director at a very upscale tennis/ health club, is that people are, in general, the most unhygienic animals on the planet.......regardles s of their economic station in life.

Here's my tying tip of the day: (assuming your a right handed tier)
When you're having trouble getting the thread to cooperate while tying off the head of a fly and no matter what you do the loop keeps jumping off the head, give the bobbin a good counter clockwise spin and shorten the thread a little. You'll find that the thread will roll over towards your fly rather that away from it and make life much easier.

It works especially well when applying fussy materials like deer hair while using a pinch wrap to keep it on top of a hook. Also with small flies.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 07, 2016, 05:47 AM
Thanks rg...no bigal you clown he had a sore throat then out of the clear blue sky he got an ear ache in his rite ear ..drs all that stuff he's home for 4 hrs and then bam the other ear so he has a double ear infection he's getting better now..thank god.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: bigal409 on Jan 07, 2016, 10:25 AM
Thanks rg...no bigal you clown he had a sore throat then out of the clear blue sky he got an ear ache in his rite ear ..drs all that stuff he's home for 4 hrs and then bam the other ear so he has a double ear infection he's getting better now..thank god.. ;D ;D
Oh. I thought that you made him eat some of that liver and onions that you made the other day.  :sick: Hope he makes a speedy recovery.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: sbuffaloice on Jan 07, 2016, 10:45 AM
Love the rare shots of the Batcave where you work your magic,Bob. Stellar work,you clearly are gifted! Had some luck with the flies you gave me when I used them as a dropper below single beads on some Erie tribs. Funny thing is, every single steelhead hit your fly, and left the bead alone! Thanks again,hope to bump into you this winter. Ill be home in February.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 07, 2016, 01:52 PM
I figured you were out in the briny blue somewhere.

Always happy to hear my "Field Testers" had some luck. We have an outstanding appointment at the Anchor for wings. Let me know when you get back.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 07, 2016, 05:44 PM
I figured you were out in the briny blue somewhere.

Always happy to hear my "Field Testers" had some luck. We have an outstanding appointment at the Anchor for wings. Let me know when you get back.

Rg

Wiiiiiiiings!!! Can they make 'em hot enough for me? Bet not :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

As far as field testing, I'm trying to set up a trip to a "secret spot". I don't believe they exist but Kyle says there is a new WI record gill in this water. Maybe your wonders will work the magic.  ;)2 I'll post pics of our trip. Gonna be tough to schedule but he says it doesn't matter; it's always smokin"......
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 07, 2016, 07:21 PM
Hey guys, just joined the site, I thought I was the only one who tied flies for ice fishing! Anyways I wanted to share one of my favorite patterns. This one is on a cruddy jig but either way...


(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy145/mikealberghini/20160107_201605_zpsjqocuqog.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Adkrs on Jan 07, 2016, 08:45 PM
Hey guys, just joined the site, I thought I was the only one who tied flies for ice fishing! Anyways I wanted to share one of my favorite patterns. This one is on a cruddy jig but either way...


(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy145/mikealberghini/20160107_201605_zpsjqocuqog.jpg)

Welcome! How did you try to post the pic? There's a specific process to do it through photobucket jsyk. Kinda a pain to setup,  but easy once it's done
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 07, 2016, 08:48 PM
Don't want to reply to the above in order to not repost that giant photo again. But I used the "direct" link in photobucket as I have in other forums before, they usually get resized! I'll make sure they are smaller next time, its quite obnoxious.

-Edit: found the instructions, will resize manually next time
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Adkrs on Jan 07, 2016, 08:52 PM
They worked  ;D didnt show up for me the first time. Good lookin stuff!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Jan 08, 2016, 07:41 AM
nice fly,what do you get on it??
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 08, 2016, 10:32 AM
nice fly,what do you get on it??
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT

I use this jig for whatever will eat it under the ice, I'm all catch and release so I'm not picky about what I catch
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: sbuffaloice on Jan 08, 2016, 10:42 AM
Yeah buddy im out here,bobbing around in the Gulf. Pretty sure that Im one of the very few guys in NYS wishing for gas prices to go up. Times are tough out here in the oil fields. If it keeps it up, I may soon have alot of time to fish, which isnt necessarily a good thing in my case.  :(

If youre really insistent on going to that tourist trap called the Anchor Bar, its on me. Although i can name 10 other places id love to take you with better wings.

Ill be in touch,bud. Take care.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 08, 2016, 01:36 PM
I'll take better over tourist any time.

I guess it's the long term effect of economical cars. People just use less gasoline. That, and people finally learned to be a bit more conservative......well ......some people.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 09, 2016, 09:05 AM
beercap is that a rubberband fly????
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 09, 2016, 10:22 AM
beercap is that a rubberband fly????
No its not a rubber band, its a proper rubber leg just extremely thin, as thin as 6/0 thread. Take a look at Senyo's Shaggy Dub from Hareline

Edit - wait I meant the tail, if you were talking about the body, it's a strip of stabilized latex
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 09, 2016, 12:23 PM
it looks  very much like a old pattern we  tied with a wraped  rubber band body or a strip of  latex glove ,was a good producer ....very cool I like it
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 09, 2016, 02:06 PM
it looks  very much like a old pattern we  tied with a wraped  rubber band body or a strip of  latex glove ,was a good producer ....very cool I like it

Woops, yes I meant latex. This latex won't dry out and crack, I use it for a lot of my rhyacophilia patterns, it's great stuff
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 09, 2016, 05:19 PM
beercap I never  tied one on a  jig like that ...I'm thinking  it's a real  spring crappie killer  under a bobber
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 09, 2016, 06:43 PM
I am a complete beginner when it comes to ice fishing.  But I'm a very serious fly fisherman and commercial fly tier, so it's hard for me to use a plain jig, I always have to tie something onto it!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 09, 2016, 06:50 PM
Great looking jig there....might steal that one  ;D

Built a dubbing brush table today. I've been looking at the concept for a while. Did a small one to start. Still have a little tinkering to do, but I think it has real possibilities.


Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 09, 2016, 08:41 PM
Great looking jig there....might steal that one  ;D

Built a dubbing brush table today. I've been looking at the concept for a while. Did a small one to start. Still have a little tinkering to do, but I think it has real possibilities.


Rg

Nice, dubbing brushes can be used for so many awesome things, they maintain consistency and really save time at the vise. I need to make a machine myself, for now I user store-bought ones or just make dubbing loops on each fly and it takes a lot longer
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 10, 2016, 04:01 AM
Yeah, I like dubbing loops for a variety of things. I was actually working on a mulberry fly pattern for spring carp. I had the idea that if I could cut small strips of purple craft foam and use a dubbing loop I could wind them around a weighted body then trim them to give a bumpy look to them.

Didn't work for beans with a loop. Couldn't keep the strips from sliding around and falling out, tried wax, even super glue. So I then thought that if I used a wire dubbing brush table, I might have some success. My first attempts were a bust. Again the strips just slid along the wire as the loop was twisted.

But......I have a nice little brush maker now that I'm sure will be an added tool for other types of carp and bass flies. And.........I ain't giving up on the mulberry just yet ;D

I woke up early this morning thinking about a small accessory for my vise. A kind of mini table that I could align with a dubbing loop attached right to my vise station. Kind of like the Nor Vise attachment. I also envisioned an attachment for my rod lathe for big brushes using the head stock to power wrap. I love to tinker with stuff.

Any advise you could offer on making brushes would be much appreciated.

I'm sure we'd all love to see more of your work. Pretty good bunch of fly nuts here.

Thanks for sharing,
Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 10, 2016, 07:30 AM
Hollowell's First Law: "Somebody's gotta pay."


In this case I'm going to have to hold Rg responsible. Now I'm addicted to watching fly tying videos on YouTube....... ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 10, 2016, 09:34 AM
Well for dubbing brushes it's really all about the material you use, but adding tying wax to the wire will help with some feisty materials. As for mulberry flies, have you tried Mcfly Foam? That stuff sinks at a great rate, is extremely easy to tie and to color afterwards if necessary. Makes a similar "ploop" when it hits the water
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 10, 2016, 04:07 PM
Hollowell's First Law: "Somebody's gotta pay."


In this case I'm going to have to hold Rg responsible. Now I'm addicted to watching fly tying videos on YouTube....... ;D

Sorry bud. I'm a classic enabler ;D

So here's my little dubbing brush table.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsjqdowwki.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsjqdowwki.jpeg.html)

First attempt at a dubbing brush.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsj3x0yvcp.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsj3x0yvcp.jpeg.html)

Just some of my own dubbing mix. Reasonably good results.

Best part is, I needed to cut the slot that the wire sits in. So....as always.....one thing lead to another and I finally put a router table together.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsaqv7k4ne.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsaqv7k4ne.jpeg.html)

Space is becoming a premium in my little basement shop so I made it to stow away pretty well.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsuzqldscy.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsuzqldscy.jpeg.html)


McFly foam eh? I've seen it but never tried it. I'll look some up.

What do you use for faux fur like fox etc? I'm looking to tie up some nice brushy minnows and crayfish.

Thanks,
Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 10, 2016, 05:22 PM
wow......

Nice! that's a great looking table you have going there. As for synthetic furs, go to the craft store and look around. Doll hair is great but they have all sorts of stuff of different diameters, coarseness, etc. I do really like using natural fibers wherever possible, however.

Mcfly Foam is the bees knees for egg yarn applications, definitely give it a look
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 10, 2016, 05:37 PM
mcfly foamis so much tighter then yarn or glow bug yarn for glo bugs too ....I like it a lot  ....makes a great head on egg sucking leech patterns
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 10, 2016, 05:39 PM
That's why I like this stuff....there's always something new to play with. ;D

Thanks guys!

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 10, 2016, 06:13 PM
@rgfixit nice dubbing bench and check in to craft fur... unless your tying huge saltwater minnows the craft fur should work if salt water check out Enrico Puglisi tying stuff  very nice stuff for tying....  you could even use the enrico Puglisi for tying fresh water stuff but that up to you... I used craft fur for salt water like in to Borski bone fish slides and some other pattern like crazy charley etc ... any how keep the great post going! 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 10, 2016, 06:40 PM
I have several matts of craft fur already. I think I just need some more practice. That's not to say I won't be ordering more stuff ::)

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 11, 2016, 09:45 PM
Excited to get these tied up, now to locate the girlfriend's nail polish stash after she goes to bed...

(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy145/mikealberghini/Mobile%20Uploads/3ba02833-05ec-4e1b-bbb0-12ec22751306_zpsiqqws6ce.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Jan 11, 2016, 09:53 PM
Nice! dug up some 1/32's and the hook seems HUGE. Not sure what I want to do with them yet...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 11, 2016, 10:41 PM
Hey beercap where did u get the jigs if u don't mind me asking..I have a pile of 1/64 oz I have a few 1/80 oz but I can only find them at bass pro..pricy to get 10 for 6 bucks...I powder paint mine they come out fine...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 11, 2016, 10:42 PM
Nice! dug up some 1/32's and the hook seems HUGE. Not sure what I want to do with them yet...

 I would tie some buck tails with those 1/32, good size for some snappy minnow patterns for crappie maybe. My main problem is I have never really been able to find a "blank" jig that has a quality hook
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 11, 2016, 10:46 PM
These were from cabelas, not sure what the policy on linking to stores is on here, but they should be easy to find. These are the "Micro Size" series and they were 3 bucks for a 25 pack
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 11, 2016, 10:47 PM
(http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y367/dankindrew/IMG_20150313_081035_zpsc01sjppo.jpg) (http://s1030.photobucket.com/user/dankindrew/media/IMG_20150313_081035_zpsc01sjppo.jpg.html) I'm working on tying these
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 11, 2016, 10:51 PM
Nice! I envy you, that seems like a steep investment but man would I love to be able to powder coat my own jigs
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 12, 2016, 02:26 AM
Wapsi has a line of micro jigs that have pretty decent hooks. I use them for crappie flies and some Czech jig patterns.

I've looked into powder coating a few times. Just can't pull the trigger on that one.

Like I need yet another hobby ::)

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 12, 2016, 05:48 AM
Rg if you try you will like it I'm sure they have some very nice glow in the dark ...they work very well for them stubborn crappie ..perch and Gill like them to...I just got the gold powder comes out pretty nice.sometimes I take the bead eyes and paint them a glow color for flys..Just touch what ever your dippin with a lighter for like 3 second and done.let me know if you wanna try it I'll be more than glad to send you some then you can try it..I have 31 colors..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 12, 2016, 06:29 AM
RG  powder paint is the only paint I use now no harmful fumes!  follow the directions   bake ater and it's a great paint .....  when you consider the cost of vinyl or lacquer  paint  the mess the smell  health side effects and the fact the paint drys up on you ...powder paint is safer more economic and  does as good a job .....not to mention a bluegill really  doesn't care that much .......
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 12, 2016, 07:22 AM
You guys are gonna cost me money again.......I can smell it coming. ::)

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 12, 2016, 07:51 AM
Do you guys use a fluid bed to apply your paints?
Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 12, 2016, 08:14 AM
heat the jig  dip it  shake  let it cool  set in a pre heated oven for 40 minutes  and  all done  no mess no smell  no dried paint in the jars ....I got powder paint that's at least 7 years old that's  just as good as new
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 12, 2016, 01:53 PM
Oh......alright.....I'll buy some if I have to :woot: :woot:

Can I use a toaster oven to cure it? I'll pick one up at goodwill.

Already got a fluid bed figured out for about $5.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 12, 2016, 02:02 PM
On some of my smaller jigs 1/64 oz I don't even cure..paint stays on fine yea you should be able to use a toaster over..as long as it has a small rack if not hang a wire ..but most of the time I don't cure mine...I also have powder that's like 7 yrs old or older still works fine.2 oz jar lasts yrs ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 12, 2016, 04:14 PM
heres   random  selection of my home done  ice jigs and  ants ....all done  with powder paint most are  at least 2 tune  and are glow


(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/2016-01-12%2014.37.07_zpsnghtv3la.jpg)



(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/2016-01-12%2014.37.18_zpscv7pddqo.jpg)


the  numbers on the  paper were  my non winning power ball numbers   :(
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 12, 2016, 04:23 PM
Awesome jigs!

This is becoming a very expensive thread to follow...

(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy145/mikealberghini/giphy_zps10ys8jxl.gif)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 12, 2016, 04:26 PM
 :clap: :roflmao:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 12, 2016, 05:02 PM
Yeah...I'm already in $40 and haven't dipped the first jig.

Oh well......better than spending it at the bar...........at my age anyway ;D

Those jigs look great Trapper. How did you do the stripes? And.....don't tell me ............
I now need an air brush setup ::)

So...how about the toaster oven idea?

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 12, 2016, 05:45 PM
RG you have a  meg on your phone on where to get a cheap air brush set up ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 12, 2016, 06:19 PM
Actually, I have an air brush that KP gave me. Never used it yet......yet.....

Thanks for the call. Sometimes I need to be reined in.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 12, 2016, 06:34 PM
I've learned quite a bit off these fly tying post's . Not the least of which is how to spend money. Good looking stuff by everyone.
RP
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 13, 2016, 02:23 AM
@trapper2000

what kind of air brush? like the kind harbor freight has? for $20 and you get a 20% coupon for....they work awesome to... or you talking powder paint? if so try  http://www.tjstackle.com/

use the compressor you got at home for the shop might want to get a regulator to regulate it down to some thing like 15 psi for the harbor freight brush and about the same for the badger they give at tjstackle.com  I got a craftsmen and my dad has a porter cable compressor we use for air brushing etc.. etc...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 13, 2016, 02:26 AM
@trapper 2000

quick question for you trapper2000 are you using Coffey straws to make the baring and the eyes on your jigs w powder paint??
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 13, 2016, 03:14 AM
I've learned quite a bit off these fly tying post's . Not the least of which is how to spend money. Good looking stuff by everyone.
RP

Ain't it the truth :roflmao: :roflmao:
Ah well, it's not so bad. Keeps the creative juices flowing. The brain needs that stuff. I've been rearranging my shop again. Had to do something about the dust from the wood tools. I like using the router, drill press and chop saw, but they can be hard to capture. The router table is almost done. Little fine tuning to do there. I need to finish a shelf for storing all my boring bits, hole saws, counter sinks and such for the drill press. Somehow I need to make room for a band saw and table saw. Not sure how that's gonna happen.

Funny how things progress with me. I started out to build a dubbing brush table.....which I did.....wound up making changes to the shop because I struggled with a fre aspects of the build. Anyway, it's all good.

Now, please tell me about the straw for eyes with powder paint!

Great info here.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 13, 2016, 06:21 AM
no no chilly I'm teasing RG.my apology for misleading .....no air brush was used on any jig I did  ,everything is powder paint .....

to do a two tune  I simply follow the directions  heat the jig  dip in the lightest color first then partialy dip in the  darker ..... personally I do harden them after in the oven  after I just use a small testers or artist brush and finger nail or testers paint to do the white of the eyes  ...... very fast and simple process ...good luck and have fun.....
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 13, 2016, 06:37 AM
I have used the hair dryer also to cure the paint works well I mostly use fly rod with mine or a bobber so they really don't get beat up..nice paint jobs trapper..u gonna get up here in fish for crappies when the ice is good
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 13, 2016, 07:13 AM
oh yes I will  be there plus i'll toss out some tip ups for the toothy guys
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 13, 2016, 07:27 AM
Finished up the drill press this morning. Much better. Got the clamps in one place too.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsdmulana2.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsdmulana2.jpeg.html)

Happy with the little router table too.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsmsjcaqoi.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsmsjcaqoi.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsnjhetniw.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsnjhetniw.jpeg.html)

Now back to tying ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: cpskrew on Jan 13, 2016, 12:03 PM
I'm a big fan of the pictures - nice work.  When I drop a fly down through the ice I either go with the bead head prince or a san juan worm tipped with a spike.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 13, 2016, 12:09 PM
Nice job rg very nice :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 13, 2016, 02:24 PM
Yeah, fun stuff. Still have some floo to do. But like I always say, it's a work in progress.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 13, 2016, 05:05 PM
@trapper2000

you remember those old straws they filled with flavored sugar ? you can fill Coffey straws the fine sized ones with powder paint and make lines and eyes ....   my favorite one is a white glow jig bright white super glo powder paint with their green glow eye... if I was you I would try practicing this technique it can be very effective at doing multi layers of colored paint... by the way crappie go nuts over the green and white jig on my lake.  by the way I got a powder paint air brush it helps so not to over apply the paint when you do two tone paint jobs lol's....
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 13, 2016, 06:06 PM
Rg I just want to run around your basement and deorganize that stuff . Then you'll know how I have to do it.
Deorganize I believe that's a new word.
Learned that from trapper
RP
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 13, 2016, 06:44 PM
@trapper2000

you remember those old straws they filled with flavored sugar ? you can fill Coffey straws the fine sized ones with powder paint and make lines and eyes ....   my favorite one is a white glow jig bright white super glo powder paint with their green glow eye... if I was you I would try practicing this technique it can be very effective at doing multi layers of colored paint... by the way crappie go nuts over the green and white jig on my lake.  by the way I got a powder paint air brush it helps so not to over apply the paint when you do two tone paint jobs lol's....

chilly  thanks  for the ideas  that's  some great tips  right there the  super  glow whit and green are killer on my lakes too :thumbsup: thanks for the ideas
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 13, 2016, 06:48 PM
Rpdog wait for me I'll go with ya to rearange  :clap: :roflmao: :roflmao: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 14, 2016, 03:30 AM
Oh....I can derange ( I like derange better) it all by myself. You guys only get to see the pictures after its cleaned up.  ;D

I've owned a couple cabinet shops in my life. Once had 25 people working doing big architectural millwork jobs like mall food courts, bank teller lines and such. I learned early on that if I wasn't  a demon about clean and organized, production would go down the toilet in a hurry. I once fired a guy because he refused to coil cords properly. It was all about forcing good habits on the group. Most understood. For many years I spent my Sunday's cleaning the entire shop.....by myself. Wish I had digital cameras back then. Never saved any good pictures of the operation or the incredible stuff we turned out. I had a great bunch of craftsmen working with me. And.....you talk about toys? We had them all.

Anyway, I try to at least have a home for stuff so the aftermath of the deranging isn't such a pain.

Great tips Chilly. I already have the parts for a fluid bed, gotta stop at goodwill and see about a toaster oven. My bride isn't too keen on my using the oven to cure paint and since she's the cookie baker........ill make other arrangements.

You all seem to use a different method of heating the jig prior to dipping. I've seen heat gun, candle, propane torch etc. I have an alcohol lamp.....any thoughts?

Rg



Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 14, 2016, 03:34 AM
I haven't forgotten how to tie either. Did up some mulberries for spring carp.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps1iimgwrp.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps1iimgwrp.jpeg.html)

Can't wait to be swatting mosquitos ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 14, 2016, 05:48 AM
Nice berry flys..I think you caught carp on them last yr didn't you...I just use a bic lighter..I count to 5 for micro jigs a fast count and maybe a little slower for 1/32 oz don't worry if you over heat the jig the lead will fall off leaving you a hook ;D not long enough it will be a rough finish doesn't take much heat go powder paint..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 14, 2016, 06:17 AM
i think a propane torch would melt the lead  pretty fast RG
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 14, 2016, 06:51 AM
Yeah...the berries were well.....the berries.

Here's the other berry that worked the nuts.....so to speak ::) Estaz berry.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsoet6ucdn.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsoet6ucdn.jpeg.html)

Can't wait to tie into those canal salmon.

You're probably right about the propane torch Trapper. I'll give the alcohol lamp a try. What the heck, I've got one.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 14, 2016, 07:21 AM
well I got thinking a propane torch lit sitting on a bench isn't going to be in a  safty poster  if you know what I mean ...if someone does decide to use one   I suggest  using something to hold it  from being knocked over
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 14, 2016, 07:28 AM
just hang a wire in your engine bay above your exhaust manifold, shouldn't take too long to cure 'em there!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 14, 2016, 01:49 PM
I don't know trapper rg wants to use a torch..if he uses torch he mite be spending more money...no torch rg a lighter will work fine... ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 14, 2016, 02:16 PM
No torch for me, although I own a couple. I'm gonna try the alcohol lamp works great for everything else. Think I'll skip the car exhaust idea too. I've got a line on a cheap toaster oven.

I'm in no hurry. There's plenty of time till spring.

Beercap, do you like  the Rite bobbin?

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 14, 2016, 03:58 PM
No torch for me, although I own a couple. I'm gonna try the alcohol lamp works great for everything else. Think I'll skip the car exhaust idea too. I've got a line on a cheap toaster oven.

I'm in no hurry. There's plenty of time till spring.

Beercap, do you like  the Rite bobbin?

Rg

It took a little to get used to,but yes I do. It helps a lot for production tying because you can adjust the tension to the exact amount you want. This way when I'm wrapping super fast I don't have to worry about breaking the thread when adjusting the tension with my palm or anything like that.

If you tie with deer hair or anything where you need to put a load of tension on your thread it's really awesome for that as well
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 14, 2016, 05:25 PM
I have probably 10 bobbins. The one I always seem to use is a Terra with ceramic inserts. It's kind of long in comparrison to the others. I have big hands. I like the length. I'll have to look closer at the rite.

Thanks,
Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 14, 2016, 11:12 PM
(http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y367/dankindrew/IMG_20160115_000637_zpsxo7a9zja.jpg) (http://s1030.photobucket.com/user/dankindrew/media/IMG_20160115_000637_zpsxo7a9zja.jpg.html) here's a few of my favs for ice fishing crappies seem to like them glow jig heads powder paint
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: bigal409 on Jan 15, 2016, 05:21 AM
Very nice Big Guy. Now you need some ice to try them. Or you could just send them down to me to use. We have ice.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 17, 2016, 03:30 AM
So....where can I get the best phosphorescent powder paint and can the powders be mixed?  Meaning, can I mix phosphors in with colors and, can I mix colors?

I picked up a few colors at Bass Pro yesterday, white, black and chartreuse. I have a fluid bed all but finished. I have some jigs and tested the alcohol lamp out yesterday. Works perfectly. I'll get a couple other colors and mess around a bit.  Knowing me, I'll have a shelf full in a month :-\

I'm gonna cure a few in the oven and see if there's any residual odors. Haven't found a toaster oven at Goodwill yet.

Also, I'd like to know a bit more about applying eyes or dots and maybe air brushing with the powder if any of you do that.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 17, 2016, 05:46 AM
theres 2 kinds (that I know of)phosphorescent powder paint...comes solid green ,red,or white  glo  that  colors the  jig  ,the other is a glo coating  all my jigs I pictured   had a coating of glo powder ontop  simply dip your color then before the jig cools dip in the glo ...............boy your going to have fun  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 17, 2016, 06:42 AM
Is that the UV glow stuff Trap?
Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 17, 2016, 06:51 AM
RG the one I have is   PRO-TEC glow overcoat .....I believe I got the pro tect from gander but I'm sure you can get it anywhere
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 17, 2016, 06:58 AM
Thanks bud!  I'm still fiddling with the fluid bed. Need to fine tune the membrane. I've tried a few different things, gonna try a few more. Where did you say those special jig bodies could be found?

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 17, 2016, 07:11 AM
I got mine  from net craft . I got the microlite bream rod blanks from there too  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 17, 2016, 07:49 AM
Now you're in some waters I'm familiar with.....

Powder paint first: I've monkeyed a lot with alternative membranes (paper bags, coffee filters etc.) finally relented and just got the real deal. Better air control, more durable and very reasonable if you know a good source.  In regards to to that source...... I know a guy.

There is a fellow in MI that operates a smallish business making finished tackle items and also deals in some tools and components. He started powder painting and probably made the investment in the commercial bed from CS (powder paint mfg). As he grew he needed additional beds so he went to work and tooled up to make his own. Once set up it was easy to make more for sale. A the base for the beds are easy, I've made a number of them. It's the cups with the membranes that are a challenge. TJ has 3" cups for $7 and 2"ers for $5. They are on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/170770472020?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/170770472020?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) or you can visit his site http://www.tjstackle.com/ (http://www.tjstackle.com/). He's also got a pile of paint with many custom colors too.

As far as mixing colors, the answer is yes. Experiment with small batches before you blend a giant pile. There is straight glow and glow in colors (other than the usual greenish thing). don't forget glitter, holo, metallics..... many, many options.

I use an old toaster oven I found @ rummage ($5) and run multiple cups so I never have to vac one out to change colors. I just store the cups with the powder in them. I can still get away with curing in the kitchen oven. It's not high odor and there is no lingering smell once you're done.

DO clean jig eyes BEFORE you cure! My original jig rack (from back when I was dipping in vinyl) had 3/16" threaded rod, it really helped keep wet jigs from sliding into each other. The down side is powder tends to sag toward gravity on curing and if there's too much paint it want to make a hard drip on the nose of the jig. You can grind them off but the finish is messed up. My solution was to build a clamp to hold the jigs vertical. A couple pieces of aluminum angle and some high temp silicone "tape" and it's problem solved. If the jigs are down against the silicone and any runs down, that can be cleaned off and the jig still looks perfect.

(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee417/esox_xtm/Lures%20and%20Tackle/JigCuringClamp3_zps3b57c648.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/esox_xtm/media/Lures%20and%20Tackle/JigCuringClamp3_zps3b57c648.jpg.html)

Here's an assortment ready for the spring walleye run:

(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee417/esox_xtm/Lures%20and%20Tackle/3EighthsozColors_zpsbdf0ddc6.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/esox_xtm/media/Lures%20and%20Tackle/3EighthsozColors_zpsbdf0ddc6.jpg.html)

And here's a few I made for a guy to ice walleye on Erie (yes, most of them have some glow  ;)2 ):

(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee417/esox_xtm/Lures%20and%20Tackle/P4130006_zpsf648e16f.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/esox_xtm/media/Lures%20and%20Tackle/P4130006_zpsf648e16f.jpg.html)

Here's one more source for components: http://lurepartsonline.com/Online-Store/Ice-Fishing-Hooks/ (http://lurepartsonline.com/Online-Store/Ice-Fishing-Hooks/). Mouse around, there's everything..... I just got the paper catalog last week and it's about 3 times the size of previous ones. Tons of rod building, fly tying, plastic casting, wire bending, lead pouring excitement!

Have fun all!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Dug1898 on Jan 17, 2016, 08:36 AM
Esox, those are great looking jigs! Painting was always my downfall...I usually buy painted heads when I need to...it's better than spraying with rustoleum, I'm not kidding, I have done that. ::)
The powder coating looks great on everyone's jigs that I've seen on here.
I'm not fishing like I used to; but when I did fish Oneida I used Walleye Hawgers a lot. That's what the jigs in your last picture were called at the time in the late 80s to early 90s.
Anyways I'll tell you guys how I used them to catch 17 walleyes one day and many other limit days throughout the season...I most always use a jig jig jig hop hop hop method ( Infishermen ). I would do this whether or not the lure is up off bottom a foot or 1 inch...no matter where the jig was in relation to the bottom. But rocking this lure on the bottom along with the jig jig jig hop hop hop was a killer at times. it worked especially well when the eyes were hugging the bottom in a negative mood...
I'd let the lure rest on the bottom and use slight jig jig jig motion hardly picking it up off bottom, then do the hop hop hop and usually the eye bit on the drop from the hop if you know what I mean...I fished with 2 buddies that day and only one of them caught a fish!
The way I baited the lure was with the front half of a 3-4" buckeye. The hook buried into the open end and coming out the head...cut the minnow long enough and you can bury the Walleye Hawger into it and you can hardly see the lure... ;)
Another favorite lure is a Rapala Jigging lure buried into a buckeye cut into 3 pieces...1 piece on the head, one on the tail and one hooked on the treble...always add a larger treble to those lures too... ;D
Ling aka burbot will hammer this set up too...if you like them...always fun to catch and even more fun to let go...
Great job on the powder coating guys...
 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 17, 2016, 09:30 AM
That's funny! Just before reading this, I was on TJ's site looking at the 2" cups. Seems buying the membrane takes some international trade agreement or something. I already figured on buying a batch . One for each color. I'll stick to my basic fly and crappie jig colors for now.

Great info, thanks bud!

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 17, 2016, 09:32 AM
nice  info  nice  jigs   gentleman
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 17, 2016, 09:58 AM
That's funny! Just before reading this, I was on TJ's site looking at the 2" cups. Seems buying the membrane takes some international trade agreement or something. I already figured on buying a batch . One for each color. I'll stick to my basic fly and crappie jig colors for now.

Great info, thanks bud!

Rg

That is funny you came across TJ. One more comment on paint. There are a pile of sources available from other than lure type places for some really interesting effects. One of my favorites is a black gloss with holo flecks (like metalflake) in it I found at some automotive place. Pics don't do it justice but in the sunlight it is incredible....

Additionally there's lots of good painting info on the child board "Jig Making" off the "Jigging" board (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?board=129.0 (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?board=129.0))
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 19, 2016, 04:24 PM
You want to catch more panfish?

 Don't forget your nymphs boys and girls ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsfdkd2crb.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsfdkd2crb.jpeg.html)

Rig them as a dropper and hang on.
Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 19, 2016, 06:23 PM
I drop shot  for panfish in open water  weight on  bottom jig or flies above run two
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 19, 2016, 06:42 PM
After hand painting 150 hooks today I've started to consider powder coat . I did try it before but seemed to spend as much time keeping the hook shank and eye free from powder coat than its worth . Maybe just to hard to teach an old dog a new trick .
Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 19, 2016, 06:59 PM
You want to catch more panfish?

 Don't forget your nymphs boys and girls ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsfdkd2crb.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsfdkd2crb.jpeg.html)

Rig them as a dropper and hang on.
Rg

Nice, I wish I was tying nymphs right now. I'm staring down a tub of CDC trying to finish an order of emergers and all I want to do is just blow all the feathers off my desk and watch TV
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 20, 2016, 02:53 AM
I need 2XL gloves for my meat hook hands. Those little CDC feathers give me fits. I can do it , but only a few at a time before my dexterity runs out. Fortunately, I don't fish them much.

Ordered up some cups for my fluid bed setup. A couple other colors I used to paint and some jigs. Should be down to business within the week. I'm easily addicted I guess :-\

Also ordered my spring fly rod build. IM-6, 4pc., 10', 6wt., 2 tip., TiCh guides. Wanted something a little longer for the boat. Now I'm good from 2-9wt.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 20, 2016, 05:50 AM
(http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y367/dankindrew/IMG_20160120_061729_zpsz95twg7m.jpg) (http://s1030.photobucket.com/user/dankindrew/media/IMG_20160120_061729_zpsz95twg7m.jpg.html) I'm working on making these ice flys I made this one with bead wire and finger nail polish for paint..I think I need to use soilder for my wrap what do you think rg...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 20, 2016, 07:06 AM
You want to solder the wire on the hook?

It'll certainly add to the weight. I say, fish it and see how you do. Looks good to me ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 20, 2016, 07:17 AM
I  don't wanna soilder to the hook just use it and wrap it around the hook I'm thinking that's how it's done gives bigger ribs..Theres tread on here with a bunch of them on it..i t was fun in the mail polish isle 16 bottles later ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 20, 2016, 07:37 AM
Big guy you can by lead wire in several different diameters thru most fly shops etc. It will make the rib pattern your looking for but does at weight in a hurry.
Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 20, 2016, 08:18 AM
in my early days we took lead wire wraped hooks  and  finger nail polish  ....poof jig ...........and they worked great
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 20, 2016, 03:28 PM
big guy that is a awesome ice jig cant do it any better then that...I got some white ones waxy spike color  some red ones blood worm color  and other bright blues and purples they work awesome the ones I made...  I am sure you will find a use for them... 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 20, 2016, 05:48 PM
Hey big_guy... Just curious about your use of the circle hook on the jig. I use circles for lots of things but mostly with a live bait presentation I'd like pretty much engulfed.

Are your plans to tip that with something to complete the illusion or just fish it bare? If the intention is to fish it bare I'm curious if you've had success with that?

Yep, I'm a curious, curious guy...... ;D

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 20, 2016, 06:00 PM
that's no circle hook that's a eagle claw  bait holder from what I see ...size 10 maybe?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 20, 2016, 06:30 PM
Sorry trap, gotta disagree. The angle of the point makes it a circle. Not good or bad, right or wrong, just different.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 20, 2016, 06:35 PM
that's a  bait holder ......this is a coffee bet  ;D

I  actually get those   100 at a  time  from walmart I  soilder  blades on them or  ty  yarn  flys  with them .... good  hook and cheap I love  em  ...I  carry a  vile of them in my  bag too
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Jan 20, 2016, 07:23 PM
Yeah, I think its a bait holder. I tie with them too for some stuff. Circle hooks shank bends into itself more, not just the point
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 20, 2016, 09:12 PM
Baitholder size 10 ;D fish it naked...I'm just doing a bunch of them now I think they will work good a few raps a thin wire nail polish..that color is very hot ontisco.. ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 20, 2016, 09:13 PM
I have 8 12 and 10 size hooks looks like a dot kindda
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: fishslayer730 on Jan 20, 2016, 09:22 PM
.that color is very hot ontisco.. ;D
did someone forget to open a window before they played with male polish :woot: :woot: :roflmao:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 21, 2016, 02:54 AM
That's why I'm switching to powder paint ;D

Just waiting for some fluid bed cups for my setup. I gave up testing different stuff for membrane. Must have tried 20 different things  from felt to printer paper. Even tried parchment paper. For $4.50 a piece I bought them from TJ Tackle.

I did find membrane for sale, but I'm not too interested in taking out a mortgage to buy a little square of it.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 21, 2016, 05:36 AM
I hear ya on that one rg..there's alot a stuff you can get for powder paint....fishslayer that was my color last yr that and gold...you behave your self.I've had no time to get on the ice yet...soon I will be and fish beware....
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 21, 2016, 05:52 AM
that's a  bait holder ......this is a coffee bet  ;D

I  actually get those   100 at a  time  from walmart I  soilder  blades on them or  ty  yarn  flys  with them .... good  hook and cheap I love  em  ...I  carry a  vile of them in my  bag too

OK trap, we got it from the horse's mouth. I owe you a coffee ;D. I am still a little befuddled by that particular hook. Here's my issue: everything about it says "baitholder" except the angle of that hook point. See below:

(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee417/esox_xtm/Lures%20and%20Tackle/Curiousity_zpsu1dl0lse.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/esox_xtm/media/Lures%20and%20Tackle/Curiousity_zpsu1dl0lse.jpg.html)

Now here's a more conventional circle:

(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee417/esox_xtm/Lures%20and%20Tackle/Circle%20example_zps6hnudvhy.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/esox_xtm/media/Lures%20and%20Tackle/Circle%20example_zps6hnudvhy.jpg.html)

That said, I've never seen a circle with a turned down eye..... Turned up or straight but never down.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 21, 2016, 06:27 AM
That was probably something on my powder paint top
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 21, 2016, 06:31 AM
 ;D I bent theveye down so its more horizontal in the water when jigging..I'm a smart cookie sometimes
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 21, 2016, 01:34 PM
I say it looks like a hook ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 21, 2016, 02:05 PM
no fence walking allowed
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 21, 2016, 05:38 PM
Try to get along or I send you to your room !!
I used to hear that quite often .
Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 21, 2016, 06:03 PM
Not me...I had two,older brothers. Both a real pain in the rear. They used to go at it all the time then the loser would take it out on me. That was till I got to be around 16 or so. Dad decided that my next oldest brother and I should settle our differences so he got ahold of a couple pairs of boxing gloves.

He set us up in the basement and while my brother was trying to get his gloves on, I walked over and turned his lights off....bare fisted.....one shot.

Dad said, " Well, I guess that settles that!". It did!

But I wax fraternal ::)

I've been tying backwards nymphs. I'll be on the ice this weekend....finally.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Big Ice Hole on Jan 22, 2016, 10:40 PM
RGFIXIT, I need help. A new friend of mine gave me some flies to try for ice fishing. I would like to try some this weekend, but I don't know how to tie a dropper knot. I've seen some videos on how to tie them, but not with a small fly (pass the loop through the eye of the hook). Any help please?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 23, 2016, 04:20 AM
Put the fly on the line first than tie your dropper loop.

dropper loop (http://www.animatedknots.com/dropperloop/index.php?Categ=fishing&LogoImage=LogoGrog.png&Website=www.animatedknots.com#ScrollPoint)

Might take a little practice. You've got those ham hands like mine ;D

You can always use a Polomar if it's easier.

Let me know how they work for you.
Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 23, 2016, 06:52 AM
how I would do it is do the dropper loop... then attach by a Albright knot to the dropper loop a short section of light mono then tie your knot whit one line not two....or do it per link below...... see my dropper rig loop is made this way...  I use the same first knot on your shoe lace and just do it several times then pull the loop threw the middle by making a whole threw the wraps.... if you make it big enough you can cut the line and tie on a single line like in this link...


  http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/fishing_knots/knots_dropper_loop.html


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Dug1898 on Jan 23, 2016, 07:37 AM
Here's the knot I use, it's simple...The Drop Shot Rig...it works great in the summer too. Just put a small jig or bell sinker on the bottom of the lake, with the fly about a foot up and keep the line tight to the rod tip...also called "tight lining"...if the tip moves, that's a bite and just lift...same thing in the winter; but more jigging is necessary...jiggle, jiggle, jiggle, hop, hop, hop...that's where the jig or swedish pimple works best...in the summer a bell sinker with a bare hook, or fly, above it baited with a small buckeye or fathead minnow is just the ticket...1" gulp minnows work well too...you can drift along and not snag the bottom with a bell sinker...just make sure the point of the hook or fly is up like in the picture...it sticks the fish in the upper lip... ;D
I use a small plain rounded snap with no swivel on the end of my line, that way I can change sinkers or lures quickly without retying. The deeper you are, the more weight you want to get back down there quickly... ;) Good luck

http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/drop-shot-rig/
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Jan 23, 2016, 06:50 PM
First year/first time using a fly dropper and it out fished jigs 2-1  :o
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 23, 2016, 08:42 PM
(http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y367/dankindrew/IMG_20160123_190250_zps5dben49b.jpg) (http://s1030.photobucket.com/user/dankindrew/media/IMG_20160123_190250_zps5dben49b.jpg.html) a few more I done up they work good to... ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Growler_ on Jan 23, 2016, 08:59 PM
So very nice flies in here... I haven't tied in a few years but I may have to break out the vice...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 24, 2016, 12:46 AM
hay big guy I like your idea I have been making them too remember those fake diamonds the kids mainly girls  would play with and decorate stuff like clothing? they sell them at joann fabrics michels etc... super glue two on one on each side for a little added sparkle.... like a eye just thought of that my self they even make red one ruby red one for a red eye one.... but your off to a great start there big guy keep those pictures coming ....
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 24, 2016, 04:02 AM
Looking good big guy!

Got my cups for the fluid bed yesterday. Super fast shipping from TJ's Tackle. I'm heading out on the ice this morning for a while then I'm gonna get a toaster oven. The alcohol lamp is too hot for ice jigs.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 24, 2016, 04:57 AM
Thanks guys the small one is made with wire wrap.I have a bunch like that they almost imitate a moon jig...rg lighter works great that small jig is a 1/124 oz 2 seconds with lighter then dip..don't worry I'm sure you will melt the lead off a few I still do.. ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 24, 2016, 07:03 AM
A toaster oven is the nuts for powder painting. Keeps an even temp, never melts lead. I run mine @ 350 for everything. I usually have a pile to cure so I use the kitchen for that. Minimal odor that doesn't linger. Just a reminder to clean hook eyes and points before curing or it's much more work that it should be.... ;)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 24, 2016, 02:51 PM
Scored my toaster oven at Goodwill today.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsi1lribir.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsi1lribir.jpeg.html)

$6   ;D

I'm happy!

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 24, 2016, 05:26 PM
I hate high priced equipment
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 24, 2016, 05:52 PM
Got a couple wire racks at the dollar store too........they were a dollar......go figure ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 24, 2016, 06:19 PM
Now you can make toast and hooks at the same time .
Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 24, 2016, 06:40 PM
Way to go rg..your getting there now...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 24, 2016, 06:43 PM
I think maybe one or the other....not both.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 24, 2016, 07:07 PM

the question:
good question for you guys with toaster ovens do you find that the toaster oven the jigs don't fully cure in the time said on the bottle of powder paint? mine has that problem is why if so do you leave in longer? cause mine seems to have more air gaps around the door to help toast bread  I am guessing and dry out the bread ? I have been using the reg oven up stairs with great success.... 350*F for 15 minutes  or 325*F for 20 minutes  is all mine needs now seems to have better more even heat on the jigs...



comments on powder paint:
also for the guys that shoot docks check out tjs powder paint it is very durable once cured right... I have bounced a 1 ounce jig off the floor hard as I could... it does not chip the pain just dents the lead! so if you shoot dock In the summer soft water seasons for crappie with jigs it is a awesome paint!  or are sick of forceps breaking the jigs paint off another good reason to go powder paint protec or tjs  paint...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 24, 2016, 07:29 PM
Trannys
(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy145/mikealberghini/Mobile%20Uploads/1453684806601548316984_zpsaib1u46q_edit_1453685310863_zpskzoz6o5p.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 25, 2016, 03:52 AM
Nice!

What's the tail material?

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 25, 2016, 05:49 AM
That is an interesting tail...I was gonna say flashy boo but not sure ..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 25, 2016, 06:21 AM
Rg have you been to that field and stream store..if so do they have a big selection of fly tying stuff..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 25, 2016, 08:26 AM
They actually have a pretty good selection. Prices....well.....the y're as high as would be expected from a retail outlet. I did get some really bad scud back material from them. The brown colored stuff was worthless. Couldn't even tie it down without it breaking.

But, they have other stuff that's very workable. Worth a stop if you have a list.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 25, 2016, 09:40 AM
Nice!

What's the tail material?

Rg

The shuck is made of Darlon. Similar in texture and waviness to antron, but it SINKS! Perfect for emerged patterns
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 25, 2016, 01:50 PM
Thanks for sharing that info.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 25, 2016, 05:52 PM
Hope I am not intruding, Thanks for the link Bob, I finally made it all the way through all 17 pages.  I had to stop often, and go wash all the drools off my face.  Love all the pictures, even the deranged shop  ;D One of my nephews worked in a cabinet shop, stopped in on vacation and mentioned I needed a cabinet for the camper, he took me to the shop, and as if he twitched his noise like Samantha, Poof there it was.

RG, hope your day on the ice went well, So far found some of the materials I use to make "Ice Flies" with in the 60's, but haven't found my old beater starter vice. Might have to grab one of the starter ones at the store. Or visit a lot of yard/garage sales, and leave no stone unturned.  Since I started calling myself retried, have mostly kept my fingers busy making some wake baits, namely mice and rats.  See Art Berry, makes one like I did before he was born  ;D

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 25, 2016, 06:13 PM
PM sent Bud.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 25, 2016, 06:37 PM
 ??? Does every one know RG is a bad influence  ::) J/K

I think I will need to change my name to something like "Sleepless in Colorado"
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 26, 2016, 03:38 AM
When I'm taking that final bow, last thing they will be able say is that I wasn't willing to share.

Tying flies is one of those constants in the universe. It evolves, yet stays the same.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 26, 2016, 06:28 AM
I noticed one thing now that it's been over year that I haven't smoked I thought I would save money but it seems like my fly and jig tying supply's have gotten quite large so I don't think I'm saving  ;D.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 26, 2016, 06:41 AM
Yeah, but you're heathy :clap:

Modified "Double Martini"

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsexw2mmx9.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsexw2mmx9.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsczg3fjvu.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsczg3fjvu.jpeg.html)

This old pattern killed the gills last summer. Have to imagine it would find a taker or two through the ice. I added some flash and a bead head.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: bigal409 on Jan 26, 2016, 07:20 AM
I noticed one thing now that it's been over year that I haven't smoked I thought I would save money but it seems like my fly and jig tying supply's have gotten quite large so I don't think I'm saving  ;D.
Yea and I believe your looking a little fatter   :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 26, 2016, 09:20 AM
I noticed one thing now that it's been over year that I haven't smoked I thought I would save money but it seems like my fly and jig tying supply's have gotten quite large so I don't think I'm saving  ;D.

Gulp:  Is that what I have to look forward to ? 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Dug1898 on Jan 26, 2016, 12:45 PM
 ...so I don't think I'm saving  ;D.

You might not be saving any money; but you're saving your life...lol ;)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 26, 2016, 02:12 PM
Don't think about it too much Bud. It won't help anyway ;D

My advice is, buy what you need, not what you want.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 26, 2016, 03:08 PM
...so I don't think I'm saving  ;D.

You might not be saving any money; but you're saving your life...lol ;)

which is even better then dyeing.... the best part is you can enjoy you toys for a long time ... ya fly tying helped me quit smoking to.. probably why I am so good at it....any how don't quit quitting.. you will thank your self later... when you slow down on the fly tying like I have you get bored every 6 months to a year you can afford new boat by not smoking a pack a day look at it that way not talking huge boats   but some thing to get you on soft water and fish like it is ice season if you have not got a boat yet  when I quit the price sky rocket to 5.25 a pack from 2.00 a pack that 3.25 more then I wanted to spend I started when they were about 1.25 a pack and was smoking a lot at school and work just the times then... now every thing is smoke free to help with the health insurance of these places...  now I am not even sure what prices you got now... my buddies that smoke go for the 4 for the price of three pack deals etc... and say they still cost around $7.00 a pack  one of my buddies went to roll your own to save money does not either they taste like good cigarettes.. but still your money is going up in smoke!       
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 26, 2016, 03:36 PM
in fifty years  we  will all be compost any ways .... 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 26, 2016, 05:44 PM
No one gets out alive Trapper.

Me......I'm going out kicking and fighting.

Anyway, does anyone have a good damselfly nymph pattern? I've been searching Whitlock's damselfly without much success.

Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 26, 2016, 06:28 PM
I have a book with a few damsel nymphs in it I can get pic of if you need them let me know...  with recipe in it of what's In the fly
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 26, 2016, 06:34 PM
Please....that's what I'm looking for.

Thanks,
Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 26, 2016, 11:01 PM
here you go rg if there is one you like I can get the other camera out for a better shot...so let me know... 

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/20160126_232101_zpsxelagwq1.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/20160126_232101_zpsxelagwq1.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/20160126_232251_zpsrsdnpl2d.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/20160126_232251_zpsrsdnpl2d.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/20160126_232106_zpsqnalbgo9.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/20160126_232106_zpsqnalbgo9.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/20160126_232335_zpslhthf7do.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/20160126_232335_zpslhthf7do.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/20160126_232039_zps15jxo9vs.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/20160126_232039_zps15jxo9vs.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/20160126_232259_zpsqkcvgr82.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/20160126_232259_zpsqkcvgr82.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/20160126_232335_zpslhthf7do.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/20160126_232335_zpslhthf7do.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 27, 2016, 02:29 AM
Is that the Orvis guide?

Thanks,
Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 27, 2016, 03:22 AM
coffee maker brewed its last went to get a new one and on way home see a garage sale, scored new 3 trays  for a $1, got some deranging to do ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/X51SKRL.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZNjBfGv.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 27, 2016, 05:01 AM
Make sure you keep those pictures. Look at them in a couple of years. Things tend to grow  ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: skinny4 on Jan 27, 2016, 07:28 AM
I wish I had the skills to make nice flies like that. Put some on eBay. I'll buy them.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 27, 2016, 07:51 AM
Not likely!
We will, however, help you learn to tie if you want to. It's what this thread is all about.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Lucky13 on Jan 27, 2016, 09:01 AM
I fish brook trout ponds a lot on the pre-black fly period and again in August and September. Damsels are a stapale in these ponds.  I have always done well with a small wooly bugger ( size 10 or 12 9672), or a fly tied with a full and somewhat long marabou tail, , same material dubbed for abdomen, turkey tail for wingcase, partridge for legs, and burnt mono eyes, although I bought some small bead chain to try for next season.  I did best with Olive but also tied one on a whim using blue ice because so many of the adults are bright blue, and had a lot of hits on that.  Brook trout are not usually selective, but I spent three days last fall going fishless while the guy I was with hit fish on a NH pattern that looked like a darker version of a Hornberg, so sometimes the pattern definitely matters.)   
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 27, 2016, 09:20 AM
My damselfly pattern is basically a wooly bugger as well. I tie it on a regular shank hook and add a long but somewhat sparse marabou tail. then a wing case over some olive ostrich herl and some mono or tiny lead eyes.

I think the more realistic patterns with the braid body and such are more for catching fisherman than fish. Movement is key!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 27, 2016, 01:55 PM
Is that the Orvis guide?

Thanks,
Rg

fly patterns of the Umpqua feather merchant's... is the name of the book any how let me know if you need better pictures ... I used my cell phone and they did not come out as planed no flash is why... any how let me know I can even tie them if needed....
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 27, 2016, 05:04 PM
OMG what have I done  ::) I knew my bro in Montana sent me a buck tail, forgot where I put it, went digging and find I have a lot more than I thought I did, even found hooks I had no idea they were in the buckets, bags, boxes, feathers, feathers,, and more feathers. Even found a Hedon cranky crawler, and a UMCO P-9 aluminum box.  Now the man cave looks like a tackle shop ::) Did get a local msg guy new to the area wants to take up tying  ;D

Anyone have a source for Mustad gold wire jig hooks size 14 ?

Thanks for naming the book willy. :clap:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 27, 2016, 05:11 PM
I like  the  realistic  patterns  with the  big eyes  ;D  if  you  ty a  basic  wolly  bugger    don't  wrap the  hackle  the  whole  body length  just the  front 1/4 use a  micro  chen.  or  dub a  thin body  ......I love  olive  but often  brown works well too
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 27, 2016, 05:31 PM
see I have White river pearl chenille medium orange, and Krystal flash gold. maybe do a scud looking one with some brown body, and mono eyes.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 27, 2016, 05:36 PM
My damselfly pattern is basically a wooly bugger as well. I tie it on a regular shank hook and add a long but somewhat sparse marabou tail. then a wing case over some olive ostrich herl and some mono or tiny lead eyes.

I think the more realistic patterns with the braid body and such are more for catching fisherman than fish. Movement is key!

Thanks chilly, I'm probably good.

I have  Dave Whitlock's "Fly Tyer's Almanac" from 1975 and he has a pattern with a detached tandem hook. Interesting tie. Might play with that for a bit.

Mcphail has a couple nice patterns too.

Love to see one of yours Beercap.

Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 27, 2016, 05:37 PM
Here's a couple I played with this evening.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsdxrxexnu.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsdxrxexnu.jpeg.html)


Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 27, 2016, 06:10 PM
Rg I think that would maybe a killer on the Gandby Lakers, I like it.  Watching some vids, looks like I will have to get some dubbing, and thin skin. and scud hooks. :whistle:

Those beads for the eyes ?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 27, 2016, 06:19 PM
Slowly my friend....go slowly!

Pick a pattern and work with it. Then pick another.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 27, 2016, 06:24 PM
Slowly my friend....go slowly!

Pick a pattern and work with it. Then pick another.

Rg

they look awesome rg  do you got any marabou around? in olive that's what a lot of patterns call for then they make a extended body out of the marabou the tips of the marabou drive the fish crazy but the nymphs do look awesome also try some ostrich hearl for the body warped like hackle  around the hook... I have also used mono eyes for the nymphs  I will see what I got to tie with and see if I can get a picture of it for you. I also have Shane stalcups book  it has a lot of innovative stuff in it ...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 27, 2016, 06:35 PM
Yeah, I've got a bunch of different marabou. I just thought I'd play with the deer hair first. I'm not done just yet.  ;D

It's one of those ideas that pop into your head.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 27, 2016, 07:16 PM
OMG what have I done  ::) I knew my bro in Montana sent me a buck tail, forgot where I put it, went digging and find I have a lot more than I thought I did, even found hooks I had no idea they were in the buckets, bags, boxes, feathers, feathers,, and more feathers. Even found a Hedon cranky crawler, and a UMCO P-9 aluminum box.  Now the man cave looks like a tackle shop ::) Did get a local msg guy new to the area wants to take up tying  ;D

Anyone have a source for Mustad gold wire jig hooks size 14 ?

Thanks for naming the book willy. :clap:

Might try jannsnetcraft. Com I believe its a 32755 gl thats a mustad gold  hook . 1 800 netcraft they are out of Toledo Ohio . Great place to deal with . They will send you a catalog , lots of neat stuff.

RP
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 27, 2016, 07:40 PM
Slowly my friend....go slowly!

Pick a pattern and work with it. Then pick another.

Rg

Oh it will go slow enough, need to plan on how to set up the bar, so I can see things at a glance :wacko: found my small nipping tools, a bag of mixed feathers, some marabou, red/black/white. and come to think I should have a bunch of beads, found some Mac's wedding rings I thought were long gone, as I have been stringing beads & blades for trolling the Kokanee.  Haven't even investigated the sewing cabinet to see what I might pilfer  ;D 

Thanks rpdog, I have an older catalog from there around here someplace will check into that.  That's where I got my split rings for my wake baits.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 27, 2016, 07:47 PM
here is on for rg to look at it is a damsel nymph

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2585_zpsztfvir5y.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2585_zpsztfvir5y.jpg.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2584_zpsv2x2ipme.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2584_zpsv2x2ipme.jpg.html)

here is how to tie the tail I used a needle and needle threader to thread ostrich hearl threw the needle then threw the stretch tubing...
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2583_zpsvsnzukug.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2583_zpsvsnzukug.jpg.html)

hook: tmc2457
tail: ostrich hearl and stretch tubing
body: ostrich hearl palmered like hackle
shell back and legs: are ring neck pheasant tail fibers
 eyes: are 12 pound mono made in to eye with a pair of pliers then sharpied with a black permeant marker ...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Jan 27, 2016, 07:51 PM
Segmenting that deer hair looks like it could frustrating!  :%$#!:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 28, 2016, 03:12 AM
Yeah, I like that Chilly. Did you weight it?

Not too difficult Matt. It's a good technique to learn for making extended body flies of all types. Start with foam to get the hang of it. I use darning needles and such from Wally World although there are commercially made attachments made for the purpose.

 Just clamp a needle the size you want to use into your vise and build the tail. Then transfer it to the hook. Or you can throw the bobbin around the bundle with the material already tied to the hook.


Here's a good video on the latter technique .

Damselfly (http://midcurrent.com/videos/how-to-tie-a-damselfly/)

Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 28, 2016, 07:49 AM
A couple more attempts.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsw2olwlet.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsw2olwlet.jpeg.html)

I like the marabou body chilly!

It's getting there ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 28, 2016, 08:32 AM
Excellent Video  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Yeah, I like that Chilly. Did you weight it?

Not too difficult Matt. It's a good technique to learn for making extended body flies of all types. Start with foam to get the hang of it. I use darning needles and such from Wally World although there are commercially made attachments made for the purpose.

 Just clamp a needle the size you want to use into your vise and build the tail. Then transfer it to the hook. Or you can throw the bobbin around the bundle with the material already tied to the hook.


Here's a good video on the latter technique .

Damselfly (http://midcurrent.com/videos/how-to-tie-a-damselfly/)

Rg


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 28, 2016, 11:06 AM


rg those last ties are awesome! ya deer hair just is too bulky for this fly as you noticed that why I had to tip you to it the marabou and the tube style... I am betting the gills hammer yours... by the way you could add small lead wire or even a small piece of lead foil to the body to help it sink I tied mine with out to prevent build up.... cause I was using 6/o thread.. if I use 10/0 or trio it would help or 8/0 I might be able to do it easier..   
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 28, 2016, 11:23 AM
If you want to weigh a finished pattern what kind of scale you use ?  Think I would use my reloading powder scale, although its not digital.  Think I am going to pilfer Ma's sewing bobbin trays, She sure has a collection of colors ::) 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 28, 2016, 02:20 PM
Powder scale works great.

They're weighted Chilly. About 10 wraps of .030 under the thorax. I figure they're a bottom dweller. Next I'm gonna try thing them Clouser style, bottom weighted, hook up. It's a fun pattern.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 28, 2016, 02:23 PM
I'm working on a crappie slab killer I'll post pic when I get it rite ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 28, 2016, 03:15 PM
Looking forward to seeing your work ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 28, 2016, 03:32 PM
'm getting into making tear drops for ice fishing or anytime fishing just sent an order out today I got the info from another member on here soilder gun soilder blade holder tray blades hooks 1000 blades and hooks.gonna make them t1 size wich is small..Gonna be fun
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 28, 2016, 05:00 PM

@big_guy_13021
all you need is a 25 watt solder iron, a pair of hemostats pliers to hold hook, and some thing metal to solder on ...I used my vises pedestal base to do the soldering on so it don't burn the wood table...  plenty of blades and solder it not hard to do it's just hard to paint them for me ...  when tiny so keep it in mind...for a small production shop you don't need more then that maybe some acetone and a scotch bright pads to remove the flux from the solder... really easy to do once you get it down to a science... but please to include pictures of yours so we get some great ideas!   
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 28, 2016, 05:02 PM
 ;D :clap: Yup extra hand works good
(http://i.imgur.com/fhHTcEA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xhXSOuX.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 28, 2016, 05:09 PM
Big guy you have to be carefull and only use small soldering iron with small light hooks. To much heat will make them brittle. I clean mine in vinegar then thinner  then clean vinegar again to etch the surface. Did you check your p m I sent you one about a week ago .
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 28, 2016, 06:26 PM
Glad it holds a hook for you Bud..

Have fun.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 28, 2016, 06:40 PM
Probably one of those moderators high jacked my P M
Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 28, 2016, 08:09 PM
This is the hook I am trying to find size 14 Gold Jig.  Pretty sure no one is making them that small anymore. I used to melt drop of solder just a little larger, into a hole in pine wood then insert the hook, Caught many 1¼-1½# gills on them, lost a few to 4-5# bass too :(  :'(

(http://i.imgur.com/k9BbSBl.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 28, 2016, 08:38 PM
Ya that's 32755gl mustard gold Aberdeen hook I just looked in janns catalog and they only list a twelve as there smallest. I believe I might have 14 s but will look. I've been looking for a 60 degree bend flat eye hook in 14 for a year now . just not that much of !market for hooks . I probably should be looking overseas.
Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 28, 2016, 09:14 PM
iff worst comes to worst you could try these in a size 12 and bend it 90*? with the two links I can show how to bend hooks if needed..

http://www.captainhookswarehouse.com/index.cfm?page=detail&hookid=20&view=1

and fine jaw plyers #8843 on this link..

http://www.sunriseindia.com/access.html#8843


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 28, 2016, 09:40 PM
iff this is a size 14 dry fly hook I bent to shape.. you  just don't twist the eye so it is parallel to the shank of the hook is all I can suggest... there tempered and hardened so it break easily you do it...if you get use to doing this enough it will work...

 (http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2586_zpsp7tzfc2h.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2586_zpsp7tzfc2h.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 28, 2016, 09:44 PM
This is the hook I am trying to find size 14 Gold Jig.  Pretty sure no one is making them that small anymore. I used to melt drop of solder just a little larger, into a hole in pine wood then insert the hook, Caught many 1¼-1½# gills on them, lost a few to 4-5# bass too :(  :'(

(http://i.imgur.com/k9BbSBl.jpg)

Look on Cabelas for "Eagle Claw Micro-Size Jigs" The 1/80 does not have the bait holder and looks identical to the one in your picture. I posted a picture of them earlier in this thread. I believe it is around a 14, and they offer a 1/100 size as well.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 28, 2016, 10:04 PM
this is my size ten steel head jig as small as I get to try so far lol's ...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/DSCF2591_zpscrlopsfm.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/DSCF2591_zpscrlopsfm.jpg.html)

could also try these?
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trout-Mini-Magnet-Jig-Heads-25pcs-per-pack-SELECT-COLOR-/201481425740?var=&hash=item2ee93a934c:m:mHZu2Z9dp8KuSsIOAvuFZC A

little cheaper at this link

https://www.troutmagnet.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=71_74&products_id=418&zenid=fa838b0d56d6235f9e40e254c295dbaf

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 28, 2016, 10:16 PM
I am beginning to feel like #5.....to much im put  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 28, 2016, 10:17 PM
I am beginning to feel like #5.....to much im put  ;D

now that's a old movie lol's
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 28, 2016, 10:19 PM
seems like just last month ? ::)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 28, 2016, 10:31 PM
(http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y367/dankindrew/IMG_20160128_225531_zpsdkh4kghh.jpg) (http://s1030.photobucket.com/user/dankindrew/media/IMG_20160128_225531_zpsdkh4kghh.jpg.html) this is my crappie killer..still working on getting it better but looks catch fisherman not fish..this one is on a size 8 hook I think or a 1/124 oz jig I'll post both forgot what this one was tied on lol
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 28, 2016, 10:33 PM
(http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y367/dankindrew/IMG_20160128_231818_zpsyk7e69q5.jpg) (http://s1030.photobucket.com/user/dankindrew/media/IMG_20160128_231818_zpsyk7e69q5.jpg.html) this ones on the hook lol
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 28, 2016, 10:51 PM
Yea I got your pm I went www.reinkbro.com they have a ton a stuff doubles shooter hooked me up good with that site I'll post stuff when I get going on it
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 29, 2016, 01:23 AM
iff worst comes to worst you could try these in a size 12 and bend it 90*? with the two links I can show how to bend hooks if needed..
Thanks for the link chilly just got back from airport so might as well turn tonight into tomorrow.
Thanks again
Rp
http://www.captainhookswarehouse.com/index.cfm?page=detail&hookid=20&view=1

and fine jaw plyers #8843 on this link..

http://www.sunriseindia.com/access.html#8843
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 29, 2016, 01:54 AM
(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l323/dkindrew/IMG_20160129_023944_zpsc22bqcub.jpg) (http://s328.photobucket.com/user/dkindrew/media/IMG_20160129_023944_zpsc22bqcub.jpg.html) tied this one on a jig.i know I have a mess but I know right where everything is..I should tidy it up
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 29, 2016, 03:43 AM
My eyes are burning.....now I know why you guys want to "derange" my bench. Maybe I should hire out to "arrange" yours ;D

Those look like crappie jigs to me. Should work fine.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: bigal409 on Jan 29, 2016, 05:10 AM
Nice job Big Guy. Now you just need some ice to try them. Or bring them down this way and show them to our crappie.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 29, 2016, 05:55 AM
Yea there crappie jigs not exactly what I was trying to tie but close..yes I'll clean my work area  ::) don't you worry bigal I'll be down there to try them out hopefully Tuesday then after that who knows what mother nature will bring  58 Wednesday..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 29, 2016, 07:55 AM
They look good Big Guy and should put some crappie in the pan for sure.
I knew Rg would have to say something about your amount of derangment .
Now where did I put that bobbin?
I just cant tie and fish at the same time so I'm going fishing.
Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 29, 2016, 11:11 AM



if you like that link rpdog check out this one. got a ton more this one is for jig tyers for crappie

 http://www.grandpabobscustomjigs.com/index.php?p=site_map

feathers exotic kind.. had another but the computer took a crap one day an lost it for feathers they sell some nice jungle cock here if you ever need it?

 http://castlearms.com/

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 29, 2016, 01:02 PM
Phtoto bucket deleted all my pics got to start all over again..wonder why it did that..I was trying to tie a slab crappie killer I think mine will work...but I better clean my table..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 29, 2016, 01:53 PM
Photobucket is down with a server crash. It'll be back.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 29, 2016, 01:59 PM
Must be my work bench made it crash now it's clean oh boy I won't be able to find anything now
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 29, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mom always said neatness counts ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 29, 2016, 02:53 PM
Im doing a happy dance  :) Can you tell ?  Went to take out some kitty food for a stray that has adopted us, and found a Thank you card with $60 from a neighbor.  He's not in the best of shape, health wise, and I also clear his drive when I do the walks with my snowblower

I should know better :nono:, and made a list of what I actually need, but couldn't resist some, just cause it was on sale, or being closed out.

(http://i.imgur.com/DGY1vJq.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 29, 2016, 03:43 PM
I  just  done up some may flies ....  the  spring bug is already biteing  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 29, 2016, 03:55 PM
Yeah, I'm about done with the Damselfly. I might move on the extended body may flies.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 29, 2016, 03:59 PM
those are  a lot  of  fun Rg and  so many ways to do them....
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 29, 2016, 04:08 PM
My eyes are burning.....now I know why you guys want to "derange" my bench. Maybe I should hire out to "arrange" yours ;D

Those look like crappie jigs to me. Should work fine.

Rg

You won't be able to sleep Rg . If you just turn me and the big guy loose for fifteen minutes or so......
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 29, 2016, 04:22 PM
The laboratory is alarmed :nono:

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 29, 2016, 04:44 PM
Lmao... ;D we can go to mff and dearrange over there ... ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Jan 29, 2016, 07:19 PM
Thanks Chilly just had a chance to look over those links . First time I've seen them , more good stuff .
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 29, 2016, 08:14 PM
Im doing a happy dance  :) Can you tell ?  Went to take out some kitty food for a stray that has adopted us, and found a Thank you card with $60 from a neighbor.  He's not in the best of shape, health wise, and I also clear his drive when I do the walks with my snowblower

I should know better :nono:, and made a list of what I actually need, but couldn't resist some, just cause it was on sale, or being closed out.

(http://i.imgur.com/DGY1vJq.jpg)

Yay! Piece parts..... :thumbsup: I am a sucker for components. My imagination runs wild......
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 29, 2016, 08:23 PM
you test your water lately ?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 29, 2016, 08:25 PM
you test your water lately ?


nope have a private well...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Gnatter on Jan 30, 2016, 12:50 AM
I have tied some good blood worms on modified scud hooks that I will use this spring for crappies and bluegill on open water this spring if the winter keeps up as it has. They will be as productive then as I hoped they would have been this winter, if we had had the ice. Oh well, so far no frozen pipes, no heart attacks moving snow.... Maybe we need to get used to cycles of one year having 26 inches of ice and the next, suicide ice. I live outside of Wolcott, NY within minutes of three great fishing bays and two good ponds. I am old enough to accept you take what Mother Nature gives you and make plans for what tomorrow may gift.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 30, 2016, 03:18 AM
Yup, I feel sorry for folks without hobbies, interests and passions. Especially in the darker months of the year when they so need something to occupy their minds.

This weekend I'm probably going to concentrate on finishing off the floor in the "Lab". It's time I set up the rod lathe. There's a 10', 4 PC, 6 wt , IM-6 blank down there that's waiting to be born ;D. That may sound confusing, finish the floor to build a rod.......but.....ther e's method to my madness. I've been covering the floor with Dry Core sub floor. We occasionally get some water in the basement during heavy spring rains. Seems I'm downhill from everything. In addition to giving me a dry floor, it will also be very level.

The lathe bench needs to be level. One thing leads to another ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Gnatter on Jan 30, 2016, 08:12 PM
I would love to build a couple more rods! I own half a dozen, built two fly rods already (last one is a sweet 3wt for smaller streams), and a couple of hand built ice rods would be a blast to create.  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: DBLK on Jan 30, 2016, 09:00 PM
This is the hook I am trying to find size 14 Gold Jig.  Pretty sure no one is making them that small anymore. I used to melt drop of solder just a little larger, into a hole in pine wood then insert the hook, Caught many 1¼-1½# gills on them, lost a few to 4-5# bass too :(  :'(

(http://i.imgur.com/k9BbSBl.jpg)
Nimrodstackle.com has 1/100 gold jigs. On the home page says if hook and head combination is not listed then ask him.
Hope this helps.
Kevin
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jan 30, 2016, 10:17 PM
I get my small jigs from cabelas 11 bucks for 100 1/64...1/80....1/100..there under micro jigs..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Jan 31, 2016, 11:06 PM
Tied up something for tomorrow

(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy145/mikealberghini/2016-02-01%2000.06.16_zpsmf7yqvza.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 01, 2016, 02:48 AM
Looks like laker candy ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 01, 2016, 06:59 AM
Waiting for the snow storm, so might as well work on getting tying area set up
Doctor is in ready to operate
(http://i.imgur.com/VXfMrjK.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Feb 01, 2016, 08:48 AM
Looks like laker candy ;D

Rg

Hopefully it will be brown trout candy this afternoon!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 01, 2016, 10:22 PM
Beercap ? didya stick it to em ?

Made a little more derange today, glad I saved all those oak boards, will have to dig out the gallon pail with all the peg hooks I've been hording  ;D might have to do the back wall with more peg board that never got put up in one of the sheds ::)  Then it would look like a tackle shop  ::)

(http://i.imgur.com/4G0ovLh.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 02, 2016, 02:23 AM
It's getting there Bud. Looking comfortable.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Feb 02, 2016, 06:47 AM
Beercap ? didya stick it to em ?

Made a little more derange today, glad I saved all those oak boards, will have to dig out the gallon pail with all the peg hooks I've been hording  ;D might have to do the back wall with more peg board that never got put up in one of the sheds ::)  Then it would look like a tackle shop  ::)

(http://i.imgur.com/4G0ovLh.jpg)

No, I didn't. I moved a pig though, he followed to the rod tip. Where I was fishing it's a good day if you see a fish. There aren't many but the ones in there are giant. Gonna try again later this week. May upsize the fly again though  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 02, 2016, 07:08 AM
Upsize? You'll be tossing half chickens at them pretty soon ;D

Fun stuff to see big ones following.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 02, 2016, 08:17 AM
Big guy looks like we have a lt of dearanging to do. This has turned into an epidemic !!!!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 02, 2016, 08:30 AM
I'm ARRANGING the rod building bench. Made some progress this morning. Woke up with a few ideas in my brain.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps3s90qcx9.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps3s90qcx9.jpeg.html)

One step at a time. It'll get there.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 02, 2016, 09:14 AM
Big guy looks like we have a lt of dearanging to do. This has turned into an epidemic !!!!
. I know this killing my eyes  :o :o
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Feb 02, 2016, 09:36 AM
Upsize? You'll be tossing half chickens at them pretty soon ;D

Fun stuff to see big ones following.

Rg

I find that upsizing sometimes solves the commitment issues. Especially in conditions like the winter where the fish eat one big meal every week rather than many smaller meals. Don't be afraid to fish 8"-10" flies, a 20 inch fish is more than capable of eating it.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 02, 2016, 10:30 AM
I find that upsizing sometimes solves the commitment issues. Especially in conditions like the winter where the fish eat one big meal every week rather than many smaller meals. Don't be afraid to fish 8"-10" flies, a 20 inch fish is more than capable of eating it.

I find the fly has to be on their nose to get them to eat this time of the year and streamers don't work for some reason unless the water temps go back up above 40+*F....  this is were I get out the center pin and hit the slack waters.. but hay if its working for you go for it...I may have to try it sooner or later?   
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 02, 2016, 10:35 AM
I was thinking about getting a center pin how are they ..they easy to get used to looks like they could be tricky to cast out
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 02, 2016, 10:48 AM
I was thinking about getting a center pin how are they ..they easy to get used to looks like they could be tricky to cast out
to save your self the money...
get a shimano reel like a 3000 series and a 9 foot 6 inch okuma celio float drift rod it is what I started out on ...you get use to the drifting then you figure out you can make longer drifts with the center pin and control it better but there is a big leaning curve from spinning to center pin Wallace cast versus a spinning rod cast...  you can side haul it at first but it wrecks like the first 50 foot of the line casue you get a lot of line twist from it... that were I would just go to a longer spin rod in a medium light action  like the 9 foot 6 inch then you can switch to a the drift  rig or swing rig... for fishing fast water in spring and float fish in winter a dual purpose rod if you will were the center pin is like my winter only rod.. trying to save you money if any thing also look for Michigan handle rods and run a canter pin reel on it seen this done and works awesome for me  I had a okuma   Connoisseur rods with the michigan handle....  in a 9 foot medium the shorter rod helps with shore fishing cause a 13 to 14 foot rod is impossible to fish from shore with trees shrubs etc lining the river banks..   
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: beercap on Feb 02, 2016, 11:00 AM
I find the fly has to be on their nose to get them to eat this time of the year and streamers don't work for some reason unless the water temps go back up above 40+*F....  this is were I get out the center pin and hit the slack waters.. but hay if its working for you go for it...I may have to try it sooner or later?

Once the water gets into the 40's the fish will chase a streamer as fast as you can strip. They will eat streamers in 32.1 degree water, you just have to slow down a bit. With smaller streamers I agree that you have to get pretty close to them to get a reaction. But with a bigger fly you can get them to move farther.

And of course not every fish will chase, most will just watch your fly go past. But winter is great time to fool those larger fish that would normally be completely nocturnal, which is key here.

Don't get discouraged by getting skunked on streamers in the winter. If you're not getting skunked a lot you're not targeting the larger fish in the system.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 02, 2016, 11:05 AM
Once the water gets into the 40's the fish will chase a streamer as fast as you can strip. They will eat streamers in 32.1 degree water, you just have to slow down a bit. With smaller streamers I agree that you have to get pretty close to them to get a reaction. But with a bigger fly you can get them to move farther.

And of course not every fish will chase, most will just watch your fly go past. But winter is great time to fool those larger fish that would normally be completely nocturnal, which is key here.

Don't get discouraged by getting skunked on streamers in the winter. If you're not getting skunked a lot you're not targeting the larger fish in the system.

exactly what I was thinking...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 02, 2016, 11:09 AM
I was thinking about getting a center pin how are they ..they easy to get used to looks like they could be tricky to cast out

me I would rather go the easy route and use spinning gear but it like learning to fly fish with a fly reel strip mend then retrieve on the fly reel in other words a big pain in the rump.. people I think do it for the same reason the fly fish like the snobs of fly fishing would not get caught drowning a worm...  these guys do it for the nostalgia of the center pin not cause it catches more fish or easier... 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Spider1 on Feb 02, 2016, 11:17 AM
man, I wish I had the room to arrange things like that. I got way too many irons in my fire. And my tying supplies are a disaster. I lent all my stuff to my son for a few months so he could tie some flies. I got it all back dumped into a cardboard box with my portable bench missing >:(. Which didn't pi$$ me off half as much as finding out he threw away all those "old worn out" fly tier magazines :'(.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 02, 2016, 12:41 PM
I guess I'm lucky spider all my son does is wait until there there done and then takes what he wants ???
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Spider1 on Feb 02, 2016, 01:29 PM
yeah, he did that too. ::)

It's ok, I got plenty. Now I just gotta build another bench... but I gotta get rid of something to make room. Maybe over on the wifes side of the basement  ;)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 02, 2016, 01:50 PM
I stay on "my side" of the basement. I used to occupy the smaller bedroom and not only outgrew it but needed it for my Grandson to visit as he got older. So, I moved downstairs. I do miss the natural light, but I make due.

I'm pretty adept at making use of available space. Besides, I like building the shop near as much as using it.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 02, 2016, 02:09 PM
Maybe you shouldn't say things like that Bob, you might have someone put out a contract and have you kidnapped  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 02, 2016, 03:43 PM
Well, they'll have to get past my bride first. She's kind of used to me cooking , cleaning and doing the laundry.

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 02, 2016, 04:24 PM
Nice set up rg..I'll post a pic of something I'm tying on my newly cleaned fly tying area.. ::)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 02, 2016, 04:43 PM
I'm still working on it. Did a few more things this evening. Mostly keeping myself amused till ice out.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 02, 2016, 04:47 PM
Won't be long.I went a spot today had ice on the river where I crappie fish at the lock broke ice and got 3 crappies
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 02, 2016, 11:00 PM
I know, I know, my picture taking abilities SUCK !  Think I tried to take it looking through the magnifier

(http://i.imgur.com/ghozGnl.jpg)

Hum maybe not.  Think I am going to like this one.


this picture didn't turn out the way I wanted  :%$#!:
(http://i.imgur.com/VlY6oUH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qNSSsgm.jpg)

Think I need more practice.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 03, 2016, 12:12 AM
iff those look like fresh water shrimp? but could be  salt water shrimp ? for sure cool looking
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 03, 2016, 12:27 AM
(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l323/dkindrew/IMG_20160203_004715_zpstforwriu.jpg) (http://s328.photobucket.com/user/dkindrew/media/IMG_20160203_004715_zpstforwriu.jpg.html) another crappie jig...look grandpoobar its cleaner ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 03, 2016, 03:33 AM
Hey, there really was a bench under there ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 03, 2016, 05:43 AM
thinking I have a old bates travel trunk for the motorcycle I can easily fit waders and vest inside it ,add a  holder  for my flyrod wind shield for cold mornings and a spot for a thermos of coffee I could have some  fun searching out  small waters to fish this spring  ;D I would look like a cross between a older dennis hopper from easyrider and theodore Gordon..... RG  that's a UFO  beamin back at ya!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 03, 2016, 07:45 AM
That's ok Trapper, I've got my tin foil hat liner ;D

Well it's ready for business.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsrowiurjx.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsrowiurjx.jpeg.html)

Made a cool little epoxy mixer and mounted it handy.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps7qq7xtwk.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps7qq7xtwk.jpeg.html)

Just need a heat lamp to warm the epoxy and away we go ;) ;D :clap:

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Feb 03, 2016, 07:51 AM
GREAT,looking unit,good luck,
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Spider1 on Feb 03, 2016, 07:59 AM
looks good, except... the labels on your epoxy aren't facing forward   ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 03, 2016, 08:50 AM
Looks great Rg .
Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 03, 2016, 02:06 PM
looks good, except... the labels on your epoxy aren't facing forward   ;D

A guy's gotta have a few secrets ya know.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Feb 03, 2016, 09:55 PM
Sorry rg, gotta spill..... Loctite 1365736 8 Fluid Ounce Bottle Heavy Duty Quick Set Epoxy Adhesive.

How'd I do?  :whistle:

There are no secret spots. There are no magic lures. Sometimes it just seems that way......
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 04, 2016, 02:31 AM
Sorry rg, gotta spill..... Loctite 1365736 8 Fluid Ounce Bottle Heavy Duty Quick Set Epoxy Adhesive.

How'd I do?  :whistle:

There are no secret spots. There are no magic lures. Sometimes it just seems that way......

Good guess. I'm due for a new batch too. Those are about done in. I've tried a lot of other stuff, but it's the easiest to work with.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 04, 2016, 06:34 AM
that neat is  a  sign of a  sick mind......
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 04, 2016, 06:38 AM
Rg how do you find anything with an area that clean.. ???
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 04, 2016, 06:54 AM
I Dont have to think about it much. What I want is generally right in front of me. If I spend any time looking for something, I make a place for it. I've worked in many shops. Most spend way too much time chasing their tails. It just makes it easy for me.

At my age, if I tried to remember where I put it last, I'd probably never remember. One doesn't really need too much stuff to put a rod together. It's a simple process really.

"Mise en place", the French culinary term meaning everything in place is how I roll.

Prep everything
Have what you need at hand
Clean as you go


I didn't used to be that way....but I learned.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 04, 2016, 07:02 AM
people  laugh  but when I  tie flies I  get out exactly what I need  for that on pattern  and  that's what I stick with generally I  tie  5  to 10   then move to something else  putting  everything  away ,  this makes it a lot  easier  for me and keeps my work area clean
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 04, 2016, 08:19 AM
I Dont have to think about it much. What I want is generally right in front of me. If I spend any time looking for something, I make a place for it. I've worked in many shops. Most spend way too much time chasing their tails. It just makes it easy for me.

At my age, if I tried to remember where I put it last, I'd probably never remember. One doesn't really need too much stuff to put a rod together. It's a simple process really.

"Mise en place", the French culinary term meaning everything in place is how I roll.

Prep everything
Have what you need at hand
Clean as you go


I didn't used to be that way....but I learned.

Rg

 ;D If I don't see what I am looking for right off, next thing I know I am wondering what it was I was looking for :whistle:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 04, 2016, 11:39 AM
This is like riding a bike, you never forget  :whistle: well that's what I tell myself, that's my story and I am sticking to it.  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/fp3oNTH.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 04, 2016, 11:48 AM
They look good for sure they will get the job done.
  Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 04, 2016, 04:23 PM
Looking good Bud!

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 04, 2016, 05:48 PM
I love  caddis flies  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 04, 2016, 10:51 PM
Uh oh, I can see it now, more fly boxes, Large fly boxes, small fly boxes, and yet more Larger fly boxes  ::)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 05, 2016, 05:34 AM
As long as people don't need a fly swatter to ride in a vehicle with you your good to go.
Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 05, 2016, 06:28 AM
I have  done  realistic  ties  and  did a  yellow jacket ileft it on a  friends  desk as a  gift   and  she  swated it with a rolled  up newspaper  lol  was a compliment
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 05, 2016, 07:45 AM
That's funny Trapper :clap:

I've just about got the rod bench ready. Added a couple things this morning.

Time to start up the jig factory :woot: :woot:

Got an order of jigs, marabou and stuff from Janns the other day. Those folks are great to deal with. Just about everything I order from them gets to me in 3 days. Great service.

I feel I've done you a disservice IFF. Sending you that vise lured you into a hopeless addiction. Please tell your Bride I'm sorry ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 05, 2016, 08:41 AM
Well, Bob I think her biggest complaint is I am always gone, fishing.  She says she grew up in a row boat in Minnesota. Every vacation the family had was a fishing trip. When I answer the phone its,  ???  I suppose that was one of your fishing buddies  :%$#!: She loves my cooking though  ;D  I get in trouble I will have to find another piece of her favorite china pieces she collects  Hall Autumn Leaf pattern
(http://i.imgur.com/smfBrEA.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 05, 2016, 08:59 AM
She is an antique collector.........And I am living proof  ::)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 05, 2016, 06:02 PM
Well, she's got good taste.........in china ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 06, 2016, 04:13 PM
Got the jig factory up for a test run today.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsuyja6ia1.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsuyja6ia1.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsxdccmtai.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsxdccmtai.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsvoihztr1.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsvoihztr1.jpeg.html)

Everything worked great!
Y'all were right about cleaning the eyes before curing. I'll remember at the next time.

Rg


Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 06, 2016, 06:44 PM
rg now you need a air brush for the powder paint .. they are messy and waste a lot of paint but to get a real even multi tone coat it is the only way... you could also check out automotive powder paint sold at harbor freight and summit racing etc...but not sure how they would be...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 06, 2016, 06:50 PM
I probably won't go too much further than making the colors I use to tie with. But, ya never know ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 06, 2016, 06:56 PM
I finished the upgraded dubbing brush table too.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsl7keht2r.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsl7keht2r.jpeg.html)

It's expandable too ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 06, 2016, 07:03 PM
Looks good as always Rg .
 Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 06, 2016, 07:38 PM
Fun stuff tinkering in the basement shop.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 06, 2016, 09:22 PM
Very nice dubbing machine there rg!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 06, 2016, 11:07 PM
Nice but no motor ?

How about this

(http://i.imgur.com/e9weMM9.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 06, 2016, 11:10 PM
nice very nice!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 07, 2016, 04:18 AM
That's too cool Bud :clap: i didn't think of something like that.

Mine relies on angular momentum and kinetic energy.  ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 07, 2016, 05:42 AM
I hate tossing things in the land fills that could be useful applying to something else, like on my HM jaw jacker, Now just another example of my "Friends" and neighbors calling me King of the rednecks  ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/vQ2B9Go.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fIErudm.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 07, 2016, 02:15 PM
One bit the bug I tied this morning  ;D  :clap:

(http://i.imgur.com/vQzRBTKh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/zE2qliI.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Raquettedacker on Feb 07, 2016, 02:19 PM
That's cool..  How does the trigger mechanism work?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 07, 2016, 09:12 PM
Dom:  the line rests in a notch in the end of the brass rod, there's a spike that the eyelet rests on, the coat hanger trigger on youtube would work just as well.

[ Invalid YouTube link ]
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 07, 2016, 09:55 PM
Anyone have a preferred uv cement brand ? Loon ? or others,  Best price ?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 08, 2016, 03:01 AM
Buy the big bottle of Loon. Got it on eBay for about $25. Last a long time. Buy the thick stuff. Warm it up if you want it thinner. Keep the cap on during use. Don't buy their uv light. Get a uv laser pen off eBay. Something close to 405nm.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 08, 2016, 04:09 PM
A friend :clap: of mine sent me the coolest little mouse today.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps40lopr1y.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps40lopr1y.jpeg.html)

It's got a place of honor on my collectible shelf. I really like it. :clap: :clap:

Thanks Bud!

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 08, 2016, 05:48 PM
 ;D ;D ;D Rg ? any guesses on what's is in the aluminum tube ?

(http://i.imgur.com/n3LQDhi.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Feb 08, 2016, 06:49 PM
Orvis bamboo?  ;D

Hey Rg, had any experience with Solarez products? Plusses, minuses??
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: bucketbass on Feb 08, 2016, 08:45 PM
That mouse is very neat...nice collection RG...wanted to show you this style jig I like your thread I don't tie many flys but I do tie a ton of bucktails ...mainly walleye size 3/8 & 1/2...this style head...(walleye w socket eye) is for fishing rocky bottoms the old style has ball collar or just hook shaft...these "newer" style has ball and also holder  can get them down to 1/32 I believe...just a different style to try ..you probably seen these before just I haven't seen any here [img][/%20Uploads/20160208_213209.jpg.htmlhttp://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii21/bucketbass/Mobile%20Uploads/20160208_213209.jpg[/URL]img]
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: bucketbass on Feb 08, 2016, 08:46 PM
Been awhile Since I posted a pic... >:(
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 09, 2016, 02:48 AM
My guess is a fly rod ;D could be a Phillipson or a Fenwick or maybe even a Siliflex.
I tried to fix your picture link Bucketbass. Couldn't do it.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 09, 2016, 06:31 AM
good match for top left on the table RG

(http://i.imgur.com/aePa8ww.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Feb 09, 2016, 06:40 AM
Gotcha covered bucketbass......  ;D

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii21/bucketbass/Mobile%20Uploads/20160208_213209.jpg) (http://s260.photobucket.com/user/bucketbass/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160208_213209.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 09, 2016, 06:50 AM
esox, ya beat me to it  ;D I about to head out the door, some Ice is waiting, and I have to pick another up.

gotta run  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: bucketbass on Feb 09, 2016, 09:37 AM
Thanks ,been lurking so long I forgot how to post a pic ;D
when I first got on this site I'd post pics ..learned the hard way as guys follow you out on the ice the following weekend  ::)
anyway them jigs are my favorite style those are in 3/8  but I see most are panfishreman  here,they go as small as 1/32.. what I really wanted to show was the collar...thanks for help
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 09, 2016, 11:19 AM
got  to know  ...did you carve the  mouse ????  and  RG  would  you mind  posting a  few close  ups???? ....really cool looking
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 09, 2016, 02:04 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsb4886qhu.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsb4886qhu.jpeg.html)

Pretty cool eh Trapper?

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 09, 2016, 09:52 PM
Yes its hand carved, The rear eyelet holds a "hitch hiker" spring, that when the tail gets chewed up it can be easily replaced, I threaded it (the tail) on kinda funky so Bob would see how the tail is attached.  I was in a bit of a hurry to get it in the mail so didn't trim down the back end some.  So you might say its a one of a kind  ::)  The ones I fish I paint with an air brush, so they look like the real thing.  Well I think so anyway ::)  ;D  I know Bob, has some bass near by so gave it a popper mouth, just in case it went for a swim  ;D

I also carve some jointed rats, with a bill, for wake baits,  I gave one to a friend that took its hooks off so he could practice with a bait caster, went out side his rural home, began throwing it and when retrieving it along side his driveway (in the short grass) he then filmed a hawk that was trying to catch it LOL.

And wow what an honor, to have it on that table. :o
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 10, 2016, 06:28 AM
What wood are you using? I was thinking Of picking up some Whitewood at work today. It's light with little open grain. That looks like real fun ;)

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 10, 2016, 07:25 AM
Think that was a piece of ash Bob.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 11, 2016, 04:28 AM
Rg, Whitewood ?  What is it used for mainly  ??? that Balsa ?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 11, 2016, 02:12 PM
Tulipwood actually, although some retailers substitute a variety of species for it. It's fairly soft, defect free and generally used for hobby/crafts. More dense than balsa, less dense than hemlock or fir.


Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 11, 2016, 03:47 PM
i'm still  working  on a  way  to carry  my  flyfishing  geat on  the  motorcycle  ,think this  will be a  fun way  to  got  stream searching  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 11, 2016, 04:51 PM
I did it on my 650 Yamaha for quite a few years. All I can say is Fishpond back pack.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 11, 2016, 04:58 PM
oh I  done  this  before  but  always   strapped  and  bungee  chorded  I  want  something handy and  easy  with things I  use a lot easy  to access I have  a  bates  hard  travel  trunk I put 2 rod holders on that ...large  compartment  can  carry my  waders  I  added  a  tank  bag on  top of that to carry  my thermos  and  lunch I have  leather  saddle  bags  and  tool bag  so I  have  room  for   extra  cloths  in  case I  go  for a  swim and I  can  acrry a  small cooler  if I  keep fish ...i'll get it  there



















Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 11, 2016, 06:11 PM
What about a side car there trapper. Can you even get one anymore.
 Safe riding
  Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 11, 2016, 06:22 PM
ya  can  but  then I  might as  well  drive  the  truck i have  the  room to carry  everything  i  just want  it  arragned  now  so i can get to  what i want  quick and  easy
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 11, 2016, 06:54 PM
i'm still  working  on a  way  to carry  my  flyfishing  geat on  the  motorcycle  ,think this  will be a  fun way  to  got  stream searching  ;D

should post pic of what you got now maybe we can figure some thing out for you? if you need help? I am sure it has been done 1000's of times...   
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 11, 2016, 07:11 PM
oh i'll post  pictures  i  think i want  to hook up a  go pro  and  record  some  of my trips ....
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 11, 2016, 08:17 PM
That would be great I'd love to see the video.
 Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 11, 2016, 10:33 PM
oh i'll post  pictures  i  think i want  to hook up a  go pro  and  record  some  of my trips ....


please do post pictures! and video you do any editing seen some good one to good songs that might be worth wile? a guy I know bought a video editing soft ware and went to town with it only problem is it goes out of date to quick... like I was on windows xp how many years ago? now I am on windows 10 lol's?  now half the stuff I had for xp don't work lol's j/k  but for sure get pictures and videos don't know if $100-$1000 for soft ware is worth it to you or not? 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 12, 2016, 07:07 AM
chilly I wouldn't spend 10 dollars on software, I wouldn't know how to use it!  my kids got me a I pod and it sat in the box for 2 years till my grand daughter loaded music on it for me (I though you had to put mini CD's in it)

i'm just going to post some pictures of a few trips riding and the spots I find and a few fish ,i'm not a high tec type and I don't want to be ....RG took the time to explain photobucket to me ...i'm now at my peak technical photo skill level
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 12, 2016, 08:39 AM
Yeah, but you still need a camera...unless you got a new phone ;D

I've got a GoPro. It's fun, but a pain in the butt to deal with. I had to buy a new computer just to process videos. My iPad couldn't even think about it and I haven't had a windows based computer in quite a while. Windows just plain stinks.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 12, 2016, 08:43 AM
No kidding, they can't leave well enough alone.  Windows 10 ?  What's that ? more windows to window shop ?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 12, 2016, 02:05 PM
Well 10 is better that 8.1, but it still stinks. Can't turn the darned thing on without updating 4 different programs and then Windows.

My iPad updates once every few months and I don't even know it.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Feb 12, 2016, 02:15 PM
Moved on to bigger and badder things.  I got toothy critters on my mind!

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/received_10153545526721748_zpshid1ag9o.jpeg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/received_10153545526721748_zpshid1ag9o.jpeg.html)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/fishing/20150929_083630_zps1oesv9yw.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/fishing/20150929_083630_zps1oesv9yw.jpg.html)

5/0 and 6/0 trebles, tied with a variety of materials. 

Esox approved.

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/fishing/20151003_150801_zps9gsgaexp.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/fishing/20151003_150801_zps9gsgaexp.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 12, 2016, 03:23 PM
Good looking spinners there.

I've been working on a crappie fly pattern, some craft fur minnows and crappie jigs. Spring fever I guess. Also started my 10' 6wt today.


Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 12, 2016, 03:50 PM
Moved on to bigger and badder things.  I got toothy critters on my mind!

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/received_10153545526721748_zpshid1ag9o.jpeg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/received_10153545526721748_zpshid1ag9o.jpeg.html)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/fishing/20150929_083630_zps1oesv9yw.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/fishing/20150929_083630_zps1oesv9yw.jpg.html)

5/0 and 6/0 trebles, tied with a variety of materials. 

Esox approved.

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj85/jthod/fishing/20151003_150801_zps9gsgaexp.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/jthod/media/fishing/20151003_150801_zps9gsgaexp.jpg.html)


very perty! jthod do you build your own spinner shafts? I bought a tool from janns net craft that does it all I think it better then twist tec's tool and it was 33.95 with a book if you don't own it buy it you thank your self later.. I use mine for building spring cow bells for trolling etc  to bad I don't got a video camera or I would shot video of it in action it a cool little gizmo and the kit came with wire and a book for $33.95 can't beat that but yours are for sure very cool ties I got to try that some time.... 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 12, 2016, 06:05 PM
@ jthod : the double blades are in the same clevis  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 12, 2016, 06:09 PM
northerns are  a lot  of  fun on the  flyrod  as  well  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 12, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mmmmmmm, bunny strips and half chickens....pike love them.

I've been spending some time on craft fur flies. I think articulated craft fur flies....big ones....would be a hoot for pike.

OYE! Yet another tying quest ::)

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 12, 2016, 06:35 PM
Rg your going to have to use a flag pole for those. Maybe launch your chicken and bunny out of a Cannon.
 Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 12, 2016, 06:36 PM
Know a guy here in Denver that goes just about every year in Canada with his long pole and tosses nothing but Clouser Minnows he ties for Northern's I think his casting arm is about 4 inches longer when he gets home from battling some of those 40 inch ones he has pictures of. :o
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 12, 2016, 07:07 PM
I've made those trips. Used to go to Quebec for walleye and pike. The pike lakes were always a hike in. It's basically  tie all you got on to a hook or two, cast it out and hang on. Pike on the fly are a hoot.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 12, 2016, 07:30 PM
surf candy  ......and  the  epoxy bodys  hold  up  well  clousers  ..... big bunny strips  streamers  and  poppers ...... pickerel are  fun too
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 12, 2016, 09:45 PM
dhal burger divers,  a few deceivers, half and half's, and a teaser barracuda fly in red and black rabbit strips  frogs always work no mater what you like... 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 13, 2016, 03:17 AM
Rg your going to have to use a flag pole for those. Maybe launch your chicken and bunny out of a Cannon.
 Rp
Maybe I'll try tying up some giant versions of that swimming fly I've been playing with......just as soon as I finish the other 12 projects I've got going ::).

Last night I was setting up my lathe to start wrapping my new 6 wt and plugged the foot pedal into the wrong outlet on the control. It blew the thermal cutoff out on the foot pedal. Now I have to cobble up something till I get another cutoff. I still have a couple lights to move around for better lighting over my rod bench......I have a new light for over my kitchen table to hang,......there's a pile of jigs waiting to be tied, and a freshly powder coated batch of bead eyes waiting to become crappie flies.  Not to mention the sausage I have to pickle today.

I guess the pike are gonna have to wait.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 13, 2016, 04:23 AM
Rg  guess your plate, or maybe should say your platter is running over.  At least it will keep you inside out of the Frost bite zone you have up there.  I see Raptortrapper scored a couple nice pike.  County worker and I both have Monday off, and planning on hitting Granby for some Laker action.  Good chance to test the scuds.  I better tie up some more.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 13, 2016, 04:34 AM
There's always something to do around the house . My son actually came over last weekend and hung a new ceiling fan and light . I was fishing so didn't even notice it for a couple of hours. My wife pointed to ceiling after I walked under it a few times . I think the use of those flies have endless potential. Can't wait to see how far they can go.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Feb 13, 2016, 08:40 AM
@chilly willy.  I use the boggs tackle maker. Not a cheap tool. But works wonders.  I buy bulk wire and twist my own.

The double blade spinners have a clevis for each blade.

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 13, 2016, 08:44 AM
Forgot about the sausage......had some ready to pickle.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsezj200lj.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsezj200lj.jpeg.html)

My son and I enjoy playing cards, sipping a couple cold ones and munching some delicacies. This is home made polish sausage that was a gift from my old friend Duncan. He passed away a couple months ago. I'll be thinking of him when we dig in. He loved the way I pickled stuff.

On to the lathe ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 13, 2016, 08:50 AM
Question for you jthod, would the Boggs wire former work well for small diameter wire? I like tying up spin flies and would love to make my own small spinners.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 13, 2016, 03:40 PM
Man those jars look good  :P makes my mouth water  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 13, 2016, 04:53 PM
i'm  sure Duncan will be  looking down  with a  smile  RJ my prayers
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 13, 2016, 05:07 PM
Yeah he will Trapper. He was one of a kind....the finest kind.

Well in between pickling sausage making stuffed meatloaf and all the other stuff I had going, I managed to get a start on my next fly rod.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsk45x23d2.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsk45x23d2.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsnu7jrppk.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsnu7jrppk.jpeg.html)

I like it already.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Feb 13, 2016, 05:48 PM
Very nice RG  :bow:. Help understand. You get a blank, guides, reel seat, and a bunch of cork rings then get to work on it? Watched a youtube video and I think I've got the idea... I think it's pretty damn cool. Wouldn't mind giving it a go ....SOMEDAY lol
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 13, 2016, 06:08 PM
Well, I get the blank I want, the reel seat and insert I like, buy the guides I like and a grip that suits the rod. I already had a grip, seat and insert for this one. Bought a nice set of guides and started in.

As much fun as tying your own Matt ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Feb 13, 2016, 06:42 PM
That's what I'm afraid of  :woot:.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 13, 2016, 06:44 PM
I promise I won't send you any rod building stuff ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Feb 13, 2016, 07:12 PM
 You've done enough!  ;). Do you use your fly tying thread for the guides?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 13, 2016, 07:42 PM
No. I either buy thread from a rod builders supply or use other. This one is being done with Sulky rayon 40 wt. I had a color I really liked with this blank. When it's finished with thread epoxy it will be a dark ruby red on a dark green blank.  It's for me and I like the combination.

It's as bad as fly tying. You'll become an expert in threads and craft stores and more.

Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: jthod on Feb 13, 2016, 09:41 PM
Question for you jthod, would the Boggs wire former work well for small diameter wire? I like tying up spin flies and would love to make my own small spinners.

Rg

I only have the 'bit' for .051" wire. I'm sure it would work great on smaller wire with the corresponding adapter.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 13, 2016, 10:28 PM
Question for you jthod, would the Boggs wire former work well for small diameter wire? I like tying up spin flies and would love to make my own small spinners.

Rg

boggs and twistech are great formers if all you do is spinner shaft and buzz bait etc in heavy wire and light...  if you make any kind of tools for fishing the boggs and twistech are not able to make them stuff like bait bars for tackle boxes boats etc.. it is basically a spring with eye to attach to some thing and to hang  plugs spinners etc from it....also makes spring for in between the spinner blades to space them from hook....even makes simple tools like that lure retrievers...  they make those from wire with a big split egg sinker.... they make fly retrievers to get your stuck in a tree fly out of the tree...   you can make spinner shafts with the tool I am talking about is janns net carft order number 415-710.... there is project in the book you will enjoy rg it will make those light spinners shafts to rg  but if you go over number 13 wire your going to want to go with the boggs or twistech or even the heavy duty wire former at janns .. like jthod does for musky the heavy wire is hard to from on the little tool I use but spinners like for fly rod's or even some thing like a mepps aglia used for trout and pan fish  is easily made with that tool I am talking about... here is a link to it.... they even show how to make rod guides out of single strand wire if you need a few pictures from the project book I am sure I can post them for you in hope to get a janns a sale  but am not going to copy page for page totally...so you can see what I am talking about  if any thing to help them out.... 



this is the tool in the tackle tool kit with mandrel and project manual...this is the one I would suggest you get you would be surprised what it has... if you make r bend you need another former to do it like the little blue bender for $25 janns item number 412-400...

http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/wire-forming-tools/041571000006.aspx


 this link is for the twistech wire former...

 http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/wire-forming-tools/421150.aspx


heavy duty wire former for $146 plus adaptors for the tool it is pricy...

 http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/wire-forming-tools/043010100001.aspx

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Tjtroutslayer89 on Feb 14, 2016, 12:58 AM
The setups you guys have to tie and mess around with gear are inspirational lol. Caught a few with some nymphs and a bloodworm fly on a dropper off a daredevil so they can definitely catch some fish.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 14, 2016, 05:07 AM
well I sure didn'tgo threw many ice fishing jigs this year but I think I better make a order to janns any ways  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Feb 14, 2016, 05:30 AM
Question for you jthod, would the Boggs wire former work well for small diameter wire? I like tying up spin flies and would love to make my own small spinners.

Rg

I've made literally thousands of spinners and because Boggs, or the like was not in my budget. I used either handmade tools or simply a round nose pliers. I made some jigs for repetitive pattern work (like spinnerbait forms) but always bent loops freehand.

I started with some nails in a vise and graduated to roll pins set in a metal handle or placed on a board for a pattern. For light wire I'd go the pliers route, a 6" needle nose vise-grip is helpful too. X-acto makes a small one that works great and you can make the loop very tiny.

Bending wire is easy, you just need a little ingenuity on how to duplicate what you want. I once made a hinged twin spin with nothing more than wire, a couple of pliers and one to copy. KISS...... ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 14, 2016, 06:07 AM
Rg got the recipe for what in the pickled sausage jars ?  Think I would like to try some of that.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 14, 2016, 08:05 AM
Sorry to bait you like that Bud ;D

This is a refrigerator recipe. They must be kept refrigerated and consumed within 5 weeks........like that's a problem.

Sausage: any cooked sausage that you like will do
Cut sausage into 1" pieces and boil for 5 minutes to reduce the amount of fat in it. Drain and let cool.

Pickling brine:
1/2 c. brown sugar
3 c. White vinegar
1c. Water
1 tbsp sea salt
3 tbsp pickling spices

Being all ingredients to a boil and simmer for 5 minutes or so. Remove and let cool.

Pack clean jars with  sausage and sliced onions. Add a teaspoon of red pepper flakes if you like it on the hot side.

Strain the pickling solution to remove the spices and fill the  jars. On over tightly and stash them in the back of  fridge for as long as you can keep your pinkies out of them.


Enjoy

Rg

Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 14, 2016, 09:51 AM
ah thanks Rg, kinda like what's on Cooks.com  ;D Good thing I have lots of jars, and two refrigerators  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 14, 2016, 10:09 AM
Yeah, that's a really common recipe.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: one last cast on Feb 14, 2016, 10:36 AM
With the nice weather last weekend tied up a few, and hit the river.
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l71/rorobxb/image.jpg1_zpsarskymo0.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l71/rorobxb/image.jpg1_zps0lb8cqva.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 14, 2016, 03:50 PM
now you got me thinking of spring!!!!  nice  fish
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 14, 2016, 08:37 PM
that tie really looks good  :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 14, 2016, 10:40 PM
This went from vice to the pot but hey it all good ...I haven't been tying or fishing work has me busy.to much of grrr
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: one last cast on Feb 15, 2016, 08:23 AM
now you got me thinking of spring!!!!  nice  fish
Thanks Trapper, this was from your neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: one last cast on Feb 15, 2016, 08:26 AM
that tie really looks good  :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Thanks IFF, I try to make them look a little bit more buggy. Seems to work more the less I stress about some details. as you can see the fish still like them.  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 15, 2016, 08:40 AM
one last cast,  ??? can't make out what brand of rod that is, that an 8 weight rod you tackled that pike with ?  Makes me want to get mine out and see If I can find some suitable waters I can afford to travel to.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 15, 2016, 01:44 PM
That's a nice , buggy looking fly. As has been said here before, it's more about movement than replication.

Nice tie! I'll be stealing that one ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: one last cast on Feb 15, 2016, 02:49 PM
That's a nice , buggy looking fly. As has been said here before, it's more about movement than replication.

Nice tie! I'll be stealing that one ;D

Rg
RG, I can tie a few up for you! If I remember correctly, I now only live about twenty minutes or so away from you now. 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 15, 2016, 03:39 PM
RG, I can tie a few up for you! If I remember correctly, I now only live about twenty minutes or so away from you now.

That's a really nice offer. Thanks. I'm in Macedon.

I've got all the stuff to duplicate it already. What hook are you using for that one? Looks like it could b downsized for crappies too.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 15, 2016, 04:53 PM
Thanks Trapper, this was from your neck of the woods.

I  think it's  your neck of the woods  too  one last .....again nice  fish ....we  really have  some  great northern and  small mouth water all around  us and  few people take advantage of  it
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 15, 2016, 05:26 PM
Well, a few of us do ;D

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: one last cast on Feb 15, 2016, 08:56 PM
That's a really nice offer. Thanks. I'm in Macedon.

I've got all the stuff to duplicate it already. What hook are you using for that one? Looks like it could b downsized for crappies too.

Rg
RG hook is a Gamakatsu B10S size #2  ;D the crappies love all of the buggy stuff!
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 16, 2016, 07:01 PM
I was just watching River Monsters. He was fishing Arapima on a fly rod. The one he filmed was enormous. 2 guys couldn't pick it up or control it. He was tossing a gigantic craft fur fly. Looked like a chicken on a hook.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: one last cast on Feb 16, 2016, 08:48 PM
one last cast,  ??? can't make out what brand of rod that is, that an 8 weight rod you tackled that pike with ?  Makes me want to get mine out and see If I can find some suitable waters I can afford to travel to.
It's a Bass Pro/White River Intruder 9ft 8wt.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 17, 2016, 07:18 AM
Thanks Last Cast, I was in BP yesterday, and noticed that particular rod.  Got my UV Loon thick, so now I have been relieved of all my gift cards.  Now I can do a happy dance ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 21, 2016, 01:38 AM
Got a visitor at the tying vise  ;D  Well not exactly for Ice, but will get a chance to swim in some open water.

(http://i.imgur.com/4OuigGn.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: bucketbass on Feb 21, 2016, 09:55 AM
Nice work IFF
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 21, 2016, 11:53 AM
So far its been attacked by Bass, Northern Pike, and Browns, and a cormorant  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 21, 2016, 02:07 PM
Are you just using tree branches for those little guys. I was gonna try some basswood.
Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: one last cast on Feb 21, 2016, 07:51 PM
IFF that mouse looks like it kicks up one heck of a waks.  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 21, 2016, 08:02 PM
I know basswood is easy to carve, but not sure how well it would hold the screw in eyelets.  Might have to epoxy them in.  ???

right you are last cast  ;D and when a bigger wake moves in behind it, makes the heart beats,  faster too.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 23, 2016, 01:05 PM
Anyone out here have a Stanley Bogdan reel ?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 23, 2016, 02:35 PM
A bit out of my budget Bud.

I was gonna use a wire let in end to end with a bottom loop.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 23, 2016, 04:41 PM
only in my budget if I win a Power Ball Loto  ;D  More than one way to skin a cat I'm told  ::) 
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 23, 2016, 05:31 PM
For all it is, it still just holds the line  :-\

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 26, 2016, 05:21 AM
took a trip to all seasons for supplies , I really like that store and the people in it ..helpful not pushy and  they love to talk fishing on a normal level...prices are good too ...I looked at the preditor suit too ....
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 26, 2016, 05:55 AM
Where's that at trapper..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 26, 2016, 06:05 AM
Pulaski ...but it's really worth the  stop in or trip up
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 26, 2016, 06:17 AM
Thanks I'll take a trip up there I've heard good things about them just didn't know where it was.cheaper than basspro to ....
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 26, 2016, 06:46 AM
hey big guy toss me a pmwith you number I lost it again ...sorry
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 26, 2016, 01:35 PM
I tossed it over trap..
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 26, 2016, 01:36 PM
got it  ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 26, 2016, 01:43 PM
 :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 27, 2016, 06:36 AM
RP thank you for the jigs!!!!  they are excellent!  even my lady was impressed ...... I will be tring them under a bobber  and  with a  strike indicator I can use my fly rod!!!!  ok I have  to find a  flower pot ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 27, 2016, 06:39 AM
You bet thanks trap its called poor boy engineering.
 Be Safe
  Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 27, 2016, 10:42 AM
Hey, you just never know what crazy engineering type might submit an upgrade alternative to the flower pot.

 :unsure:

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rpdog on Feb 27, 2016, 11:26 AM
I'm so used to working in my own dearanged way I would get confused.
  Rp
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MJB518 on Feb 27, 2016, 01:02 PM
Do you gentleman make any trolling flies? I'd love to see some if you do.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Feb 27, 2016, 01:07 PM
Imagine Clouser's on an umbrella rig  ;D  Who would have thought.  ::)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 27, 2016, 01:56 PM
Do you gentleman make any trolling flies? I'd love to see some if you do.

I used  do tandems for trolling. I'm not a fan of trolling so I don't have a need any more.

Pop on over to MyFishfinder and check in on the "Hey Fly Tiers" thread there. The guys are starting to thaw out and I know there's some who tie for trolling.

rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 27, 2016, 11:17 PM
Do you gentleman make any trolling flies? I'd love to see some if you do.

for salmon steel like that of purple taco flies  that look like a bunch of flashabu around a tube?  or you talking like rg said for trolling from a fly rod? or some thing else?
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 28, 2016, 05:11 AM
I dug up an old picture of some I used to tie for trolling the Finger Lakes.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/trollflies.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/trollflies.jpg.html)

I think the picture is from around '03 or so.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MJB518 on Feb 29, 2016, 06:45 AM
Yeah,  kinda like that RG.

Chilly - I was looking for some ideas on flies that I could run behind flashers and dodgers for some lake trout or just flat lining for some salmon.

I don't tie at all right now but was thinking about purchasing the tools and material to start experimenting.  I do  lot of brook fishing too, maybe learn the fly rod in the meantime.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 29, 2016, 01:17 PM
check out purple taco fly supplies google it if any thing....they sell trolling fly stuff at discount to make your own fly rigs it easy to if you need me to I an can show you? or the fly kit form purple taco it is fairly cheap and make 100's of flies just need hooks and more beads... to make 1000's   
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 07, 2017, 02:52 PM
With all this worm weather and :cookoo: winds, might as well put some time in at the vise.  Although I did make it out on the ice for some nice perch.  Not sure if it was the fly making off with the perch eye or the eye itself.  Sorry no pictures, the computer/pictures are seems like at war  :%$#!:
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: geo315 on Jan 07, 2017, 06:22 PM
Just got done tying up some march brown nymphs.   10's 14's and 18's.  If I don't lose them this ice season, I'll have them for trout.  Geo.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: MattyP123 on Jan 07, 2017, 06:29 PM
learned today that tiny crappie love sz14 black nymphs with lively legz
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: wildlifer100 on Jan 07, 2017, 08:45 PM
I prefer weighted Willy buggers in black and brown on a size 6 2x long shaft
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: geo315 on Jan 07, 2017, 09:40 PM
I prefer weighted Willy buggers in black and brown on a size 6 2x long shaft
willys for ice?  sounds interesting.   i never tried that.  had some good luck with the march browns.   sometimes tipped with  spikes. Geo.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 08, 2017, 07:53 AM
With all this worm weather...

(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee417/esox_xtm/IS%20General/12-13-2015_zpsg0ihqqt7.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/esox_xtm/media/IS%20General/12-13-2015_zpsg0ihqqt7.jpg.html)

You mean like this pic from my patio 12/13 a year ago Bud?  ;D

Thanks for the Purple Taco direct chilly. They've got some stuff I haven't been able to find in years plus a lot more. My imagination is getting away from me...
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: IFF on Jan 09, 2017, 08:23 PM
If there were any out today, the wind has blown them at least half way to you Mike.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: wildlifer100 on Feb 22, 2017, 02:25 PM
I love the woven bodies.  Great looking stuff guys
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 23, 2017, 05:56 AM
Haven't been at the bench to much lately. Spending most of my time in the wood shop. I need to sort out my fly boxes pretty soon and get tying for the spring.

Rg
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Feb 23, 2017, 07:32 AM
just tied some[replacements] black nymphs on 12's and 14's for ice fishing
lost some in the wood,some pulled apart
hope to get one more day ice fishing
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: geo315 on Feb 23, 2017, 10:10 AM
I am overrun with thread.  All types.  I think I have to steal an idea from the Mrs.  She has a spice rack that is teared.  So, maybe I have to follow Rgfix and go to my wood shop and let the creation happen.  haha. Geo.
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Seamonkey84 on Nov 11, 2018, 07:46 AM
Bringing this thread back as it’s prob the more extensive tying thread on IS. I made a couple small leech patterns I though might work through the ice. I tied them with squirrel instead of rabbit strips, and uses estaz as an underbody to give a bit of flash. Also I used tungsten bead/cone heads.
Sz6
(https://i.postimg.cc/RNJyT8dW/5-CAD51-E7-CBC6-44-A2-87-D9-450-C537-FECB2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNJyT8dW)
Sz10
(https://i.postimg.cc/6TmFnwrs/CFE14-A62-B421-437-F-8-F2-D-19-BCAC90-B834.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6TmFnwrs)
Title: Re: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice?
Post by: Seamonkey84 on Nov 12, 2018, 09:25 AM
Another, this one is in place of a standard bucktail jig for lake trout. On a 3/8oz tungesten jighead, a chinchilla and white rabbit strip for tail and then wrapped togther up the shank. Thinking about adding eyes to the jighead. If I do another one, I’ll add a glass rattle chamber to it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zb2XChGn/13-D05647-D40-F-4813-A7-AE-778-F6-BDEA4-AB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zb2XChGn)