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Offline fishEH

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Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« on: Oct 03, 2021, 08:59 PM »
This will be an ongoing review of my Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over. Decided it was time for a new shanty this year. After hearing many good things about Otter, I splurged and bought the Cabin Pro. I really wanted the regular version but Bass Pro didn't have it in stock and for reasons I won't get into I here, I needed to purchase soon.

First impressions. Very good quality. Material is heavy and stitching is good. Sled is heavy duty plastic,  much thicker than my previous Frabill Trekker DLX.
I'm really looking forward to the side entry/exit. Total game changer.

I do have some some issues with the unit however. Since I haven't had it on the ice yet my praise will be limited, so you may have to  bear with my complaints. As I get some use I'll keep updating with my reviews and any upgrades.

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #1 on: Oct 03, 2021, 09:47 PM »
Itís a good shack. I have the regular version with bench seat and have had my share of issues, but I bought it the first year it came out. What are your issues? Maybe we can help.

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #2 on: Oct 03, 2021, 09:53 PM »
After much looking I found a set of Otter hyfax runners. I had heard that its easiest to install these before assembling the rest of the shanty, and that is accurate. I had seen a video of a guy installing the hyfax on his Otter and he indicated the runners should fit into the slot in the curved front part of the sled.
Upon looking at the sled it is obvious there are recessed notches that look like they should accept the runners. Well, they don't. IDK if Otter increased the thickness of the runners but there is no way those are fitting in there. They are also VERY tight to get into the notched track part; I needed a rubber mallet to whack them in.
After that the install was pretty straight forward. Press down, drill, install screw, repeat what feels like 100 times.
Pros: Hyfax are nice and thick and should provide good protection.
Cons:
1) Hyfax seem to sit fuarther back on the bottom of the sled than originally designed. This causes a fair amount of overhang behind tub of the sled. Not too obnoxious, but it doesn't seem as it should.
2) Because the Hyfax are pushed back about 1" farther than intended, the rear most screw hole ends up being in the part of the sled where the bottom starts to taper up. The result is a screw that is too short to allow the nut to thread on properly. This was remedied with some SS #6 screws mounted reverse(screw head in tub/nut inside Hyfax hole.
3) The front most hyfax runner screw(actually the nut) protrudes obnoxiously into the front curved part of the sled. I didn't like the idea of that snagging soft materials or anything else so I replaced in the same fashion as the rear most ones.










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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #3 on: Oct 04, 2021, 07:46 AM »
The bolts for my runner kit for my eskimo was the same, the bolts stuck through like your otter.

I took a couple 1$ foam matts and just leave them in the bottom of the tub, no more worry of snagging lures, gloves etc on em.

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #4 on: Oct 04, 2021, 08:16 AM »
The bolts for my runner kit for my eskimo was the same, the bolts stuck through like your otter.

I took a couple 1$ foam matts and just leave them in the bottom of the tub, no more worry of snagging lures, gloves etc on em.

I did the same on mine, found a roll of antifatigue mat at harbor freight that was easy to cut and fit great on the width. Plus, it keeps things from sliding around in the sled and may or may not give at least a small level of insulation against the ice.

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #5 on: Oct 04, 2021, 03:21 PM »
Thats a great idea!
The bolts for my runner kit for my eskimo was the same, the bolts stuck through like your otter.

I took a couple 1$ foam matts and just leave them in the bottom of the tub, no more worry of snagging lures, gloves etc on em.

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #6 on: Oct 04, 2021, 05:46 PM »
Somethings not right with those runners. I would of contacted Otter and let them know of the situation. They canít fix an issue if they donít know it exist. They would of sent you different runners more than likely. Otter has been known for high quality products but the quality has been going downhill lately since the release of the x over shelters. Otter quality control is not what it used to be. The runners show just that. For what these things cost new, donít settle for crap. Or that is what we will get.

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #7 on: Oct 04, 2021, 06:32 PM »
The runners for my XT lodge pro were similar, very tight fit in the tracks. I just warmed up the tub a little with a heat gun and it all went together fine, the length was correct on mine with no overhang. Personally I prefer it that they're a tight fit, more support from the tracks means less stress on the bolt holes during lateral loads.
I covered the floor and exposed nuts with automotive carpet when I did the full deck conversion. Found it in Otter blue on Amazon.

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #8 on: Oct 04, 2021, 07:15 PM »
Yeah, IDK. The runners are the correct part number, maybe their molding has gotten sloppy. The Otter vid doesn't seme to have the same issue with the overhang.

 Although it bugs me, its probably a good thing. I think the extra overhang will protect the back corner of the sled as I put it in my truck.

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #9 on: Oct 04, 2021, 07:28 PM »
So I got the center seat support installed. Just for fun I decided to test fit some buckets behind the seat. FAIL!!
I was literally shocked to see that nothing fit.
Marcum Lithium shuttle bucket. Nope.
Frabill sit and fish bucket. Nope.
Surely a standard hardware store 5gallon bucket would fit? Nope!
The only bucket I have that fits behind the seat rail is a rectangular kitty litter bucket. 🤦‍♂️ Sorry but I'm not keeping my ice gear on my $1000 shanty in a litter box with a janky lid.
They sorta fit, but they dont sit flush on the floorand are hanging cockeyed between the seat rail and rear sled.
Such a massive oversight on Otter's part. All they had to do was center the rail and you could have stored buckets in front of or behind the seats.
Lazy engineering.





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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #10 on: Oct 04, 2021, 08:32 PM »
fishEH years ago while searching for a flip over at my local Gander Mtn ..I encountered the dreaded cross bar seat set ups ..cant recall if it was Otter and/or Clam but it was a hard pass . Years later it seems to never been address .
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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #11 on: Oct 05, 2021, 07:05 PM »
Almost have it fully assembled. This post is as much a question as a critique. 
The fabric went on pretty easily with the help of my son. Center cross bracing poles were pretty straight forward. I will say I'm glad the shabty has side entry/exit because the front door is kinda small.
Then I decided to test fit the black plastic trim that keeps the fabric to the sides of the sled.
Here's where my beef/question lies. The Otter Cabin has a wind skirt that adheres to the side of the tub, so it is inside the shanty when fully set up. The skirt goes against the outside lip of the sled, then the trim part goes over it and get screwed into the sled.
What I'm having an issue with is how this is supposed to sit when the plastic bucket seat rail is sitting on the lip of the tub? It seems the seat raill would be sitting right on top of the fabric and plastic trim piece. This would either cause the seat rail to not sit flush against the side of the sled or cause the fabric/plastic to wear prematurely,  or both.
What am I missing???
I also have no idea what I'm supposed to do with the skirt material when moving the shanty around. It's too short to want to stay tucked inside the sled, but its long enough where it will drag on the ground and get frayed in no time.








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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #12 on: Oct 05, 2021, 07:32 PM »
Same as stealth800 I assembled lodge hyfax no problem. Wondering if the cabin sled is shorter and they sent lodge hyfax? Also if I remember right there wasnít problem with the skirt thought it tucked up out way Velcro? Iíll pull it out tomorrow getting the itch anyways
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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #13 on: Oct 05, 2021, 07:47 PM »
Fish I have the Cottage but use a cover when I'm towing it.  I put the cover on and then stuff the skirt up inside of the elastic band of the cover.  Can't remember having an issue with the seat rail...seem to recall there being a gap between the 2  trim pieces in front  and some velcro that holds the hanging pieces of skirt together at that spot.  Not 100% on that and maybe the Cabin is different.

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #14 on: Oct 13, 2021, 01:51 PM »
So I haven't done anything with the shanty, but I looked at it again yesterday after reviewing some posts online. I think the issue of the edge trim, skirt, and seat not fitting together well has to do with the flashing on the edge of the sled. These sleds are rotomolded and it looks like the edges have to be cut down. On my sled it looks like not enough of the edge/flashing was removed. This means the the lip, fabric, and edging all stick out further than normal, causing interference with the seat support.
The more I look at it though, the more I think I will not be screwing the skirt or using any edging on the inside of the sled area.
I occasionally use boot cleats and I can just see that skirt getting all chewed up.


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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #15 on: Oct 13, 2021, 02:36 PM »
This is an old video but it does look different then your set up ..4:22 mark

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #16 on: Oct 14, 2021, 09:36 AM »
Thanks! Looks like he didn't get or didn't use the edging. I think that's the route I'm going.

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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #17 on: Oct 14, 2021, 10:18 AM »
Thanks! Looks like he didn't get or didn't use the edging. I think that's the route I'm going.

Is it possible that the trim lock is on backwards ...if you can flip it around does it work better or worse . FWIW the diagram and instructions are pretty horrible .
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Re: Review: Otter XT Cabin Pro X-Over
« Reply #18 on: Oct 14, 2021, 10:51 AM »




Otter lodge bench skirt not really in the way.

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