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Title: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: hardwater diehard on Nov 17, 2016, 09:24 AM
Get more out of your Flashers ...a change in bottom composition could be key to getting on fish ...set your units to normal and manual mode as well as to twice the known depth ...then read the second or some times third echo to determine bottom composition ...if that second echo mark is a defined "red" mark = hard ...if the second mark has a trailing edge green/yellow =softer bottom

http://vexilar.com/blog/2014/08/28/finding-hard-bottom



about a minute into video the double echo approach is explained.

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Title: Re: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: Chris338378 on Nov 17, 2016, 01:15 PM
That's interesting.  Have you done it with other brands other than Vexilar?
Title: Re: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: hardwater diehard on Nov 17, 2016, 02:03 PM
I haven't tried it ...heard and read about it last season ...but last season being what it was didn't put it to use . It should work for other flashers as well ..I came across it while researching for perch ...which tend to  like the sticky bottom ...so if you can locate the muddy/sticky bottom on the flat...you up your catch rate ...the muddy sticky bottom holds the insect larva/blood worms etc...know preferred forage for perch .
Title: Re: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: ice dawg on Nov 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
You can also drop a depthfinder weight down to the bottom and pull it back up. If you have a sticky bottom there will be mud stuck to the bottom of the weight. Kind of like your anchor in summer.
Title: Re: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: hardwater diehard on Nov 17, 2016, 03:37 PM
You can also drop a depthfinder weight down to the bottom and pull it back up. If you have a sticky bottom there will be mud stuck to the bottom of the weight. Kind of like your anchor in summer.

Exactly ....not much of a tip up guy now ...but do use tip downs quite often and have felt the sticky/muddy bottom with my sounder in the past .
Title: Re: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: chilly-willy on Nov 17, 2016, 04:31 PM
Very intresting seen the red on my x67c once or twice now I know what's going on with it.. lols..
Title: Re: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: gofish33 on Dec 04, 2016, 07:00 PM
Many thanks for the links, that is what I was looking for.

gofish33
Title: Re: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: hardwater diehard on Dec 04, 2016, 07:03 PM


53:00 mark sticky bottom  technique

Title: Re: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: hardwater diehard on Dec 04, 2016, 07:05 PM
Many thanks for the links, that is what I was looking for.

gofish33

Your Welcome ....wish some Ice Pro would do an on ice demonstration for YouTube
Title: Re: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: BlackDogAlpha on Dec 04, 2016, 08:22 PM
As a proofing of this, last year on a known mud bottom I hammered my tungsten off the bottom, saw a plume on my chart on zoom mode, and it drew over a perch every time to grab the jig. If I didnt bounce it they would take their sweet time hitting the jig. Somebody did a walleye video on youtube showing this on a camera as well.
Title: Re: Double Echo /bottom composition technique.
Post by: Bartb on Dec 04, 2016, 09:12 PM
This  is very interesting
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Post by: twinlakesfisher on Feb 11, 2019, 09:06 AM
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