Checked a couple places today and wasn't good.Where I was last week at4" was only 2" and rotten.Guys were fishing at wayway on supposed 4-5" and I went thru with Spud in two whacks looked about 2".Guys had just gotten off the ice according to people in lot.Small lake in Sparta mt had people on it fishing but I didn't bother to check thickness because I don't walk on 2". Adirondacks here I come.