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Offline mrsfishhunter

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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #60 on: Mar 13, 2009, 06:20 PM »
we need to have another boston tea party. to bad that not everyone here, or in the state would have the will power to do such a thing.
the way i read it( sure i will be corrected if i am wrong) is the fed is mandating a registry with no fee until 2011, did not see ANYTHING that proposed a fee after that and only if the state has not complied with a registry, not saying there won't be one, but as for now the state is the one trying to cash in on this. does anyone really believe the $ would go only for what they say?(social sercuity) this attitude i have seen from some people "their going to do it anyway" is a lot of the reason we have so many taxes now. THEY WORK FOR US. i don't know about most of you, but if i have to keep paying more to do recreational things like fish, all i will be doing is going to work and staying home cause i won't be able to afford it. get a backbone and fight this thing and just maybe someone will realize we have had enough of being taxed to death on everything.

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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #61 on: Mar 13, 2009, 06:25 PM »
get a backbone and fight this thing and just maybe someone will realize we have had enough of being taxed to death on everything.

I think that sums it up nicely..  ;D
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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #62 on: Mar 13, 2009, 08:45 PM »
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If Maine doesn't impose a saltwater fishing Lic. or registry then in 2011 the Feds will require all Maine saltwater recreational fishermen to register with NMFS.
The feds will impose and collect a registration fee of $15 to $25 to support said registration and fisheries research made by NMFS.

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So how Huh is Maine going to implement its own Registering or Licensing to comply with the Magnuson Act.
There is only ONE answer -> The cost of doing this will be made by charging said saltwater recreational fishermen a fee to register or charge for a saltwater fishing Lic.

You contradict yourself.  If you would take the time to read the links provided, you would see that Sen. Trahan's bill creates a registry that satisfies the federal requirement without creating a license to pay for.  The feds say they'd rather have the state do this because they'll get better data.

This isn't rocket science, so the choice is easy.  You can choose to tax and spend like the feds, or you can choose Sen. Trahan's route and say screw the feds. 

Are you a tax and spender Seadog?
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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #63 on: Mar 13, 2009, 09:12 PM »

THAT! Is what Ct., R.I., Mass, N.H. and N.Y. found out to their chagrin.

The only answer that these states could come up with is charging the costs to the recreational fishermen.

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The people of maine are a little brighter than the people from those other states,thats why we don't have involuntary boaters safety courses shoved down our throats. ;D

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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #64 on: Mar 13, 2009, 10:03 PM »
Buddah....  ;D
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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #65 on: Mar 13, 2009, 10:16 PM »
Seadog, have you even followed the links posted yet?

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To: All members of the Joint Standing Committee on Marine Resources

Senator Dave Trahan and the Sportsman’s Alliance of Maine have teamed up to resolve the long-standing battle over creation of a saltwater fishing license. SAM led the successful fight two years ago to defeat the proposal but it is back with a vengeance this session backed by the Baldacci Administration.

Although the people in this region have been able to catch saltwater fish for four hundred years without paying a fee for a permit or license, Congress threatened this privilege when it re-enacted the Magnusson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act at 2 am on the last day of the 108th U.S. Congress. After discussing the issue with federal officials, Senator Trahan discovered that they are not planning to charge a fee because they have no way to collect the money, and he was directed to check out states that have established the registry of saltwater anglers without charging a fee.

I support the proposal Senator Trahan has put forward that would create the registry in Maine without a fee. His proposal is simple and effective. When anglers purchase their fishing licenses from the Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife, they will be asked to check a box if they fish in saltwater. Saltwater anglers who do not purchase a fishing license from DIF&W would be able to register on-line for free.

Many suggestions have been offered to encourage these non-licensed anglers to register, including on-line raffle prizes and a requirement that guides use the on-line register for all of their saltwater angling customers. State and federal officials can use the registry to conduct annual surveys – the whole purpose of the original registration requirement. Reliable information about saltwater fishing can be obtained using our system without the burden of an expensive license.

I respectfully ask you to oppose the saltwater license and support Senator Trahan’s saltwater registry bill instead.

Sincerely,

Seadog, the mechanisms are already there, using existing systems.  Just a little more data to collect is all - one more box to check when you fill out your license paper work, or another option using the already in place MOSES system for those who don't.  Maine already sends in data on migratory waterfowl, so this is only another line on the form, or another line or two of code using the computer.  Yes, you can say this will cost a ton of money, but that's usually what the tax and spend folks say, just before they raise your taxes or add another fee. 

Like I said, this isn't rocket science...at least for folks from Maine (like Buddah) anyway...
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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #66 on: Mar 14, 2009, 09:27 AM »
Our governor has allready said he wants to jump on this first because he can soak another 3 million out of the public and have it stay in Maine for his pet projects.
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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #67 on: Mar 15, 2009, 07:37 PM »
What the Baldacci administration has done to MDIFW funding is a disgrace...  It's time to turn Maine back into vacationland instead of taxationland.
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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #68 on: Mar 16, 2009, 08:47 AM »
baldacci just needs to go back to workin in his familys restaraunt.
seadog; enough already. once again i did not start this thread to hear negativity. i simply posted it to try and win this fight. it's pretty obvious that you have not taken the time to read the links i provided on the very first post. it's also pretty obvious that all you have to contribute is a negative attitude, if yer not here to help win the fight, then please.....find another thread to post on. if i throw a stick, will you then go away?
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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #69 on: Mar 16, 2009, 09:01 AM »
Back in 1970 the chant was "Hell no we won't go" and it made the government to shortsheet the military forces in Vietnam and we had to surrender. We have to change our chant to "Hell no we won't pay" and force the socialist to back down. Maybe April 15th would be a great day to stop paying the IRS. That was only a tax introduced by Franklin Roosevelt to pay for WWII. Who knows, maybe you'll get a job in the Obamay adminastration.
Steve

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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #70 on: Mar 16, 2009, 02:36 PM »
FYI: Source: Tax Foundation

With the advent of WWII, employment increased, as did tax collection to $7.3 billion. The withholding tax on wages was introduced in 1943 and was instrumental in increasing taxpayers to 60 million and  tax collections to 43 billion by 1945.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Steve

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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #71 on: Mar 16, 2009, 02:47 PM »
I am a Veteran Not a Terrorist!

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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #72 on: Mar 16, 2009, 02:49 PM »
Your just plan bad Hazzy. ;D
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Re: keep saltwater fishing free!!!!
« Reply #73 on: Mar 16, 2009, 02:58 PM »
bad for you to condone smoking   lol
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