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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Equipment => Topic started by: bquick on Dec 11, 2012, 09:52 PM
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I sat down after studying a few different designs of rodholders and specifically ones that use the tension of a bent rod to set the hook when a fish bites. I used a few thoughts from other members on here that have similar trigger mechanisms and this is what I came up with. They are made from aluminum channel, stainless hardware, and PVC. The two legs fold inward for easy storage and transportation and they are fairly light as well. Should be able to get them out on the ice in a couple weeks! Basically, the trigger goes into the eye of the rod tip and the line goes over the end of the trigger. When the fish pulls the line down, the eye is released and the rod snaps up, setting the hook! FISH ON!!!
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Very nice,looks similar to a style me and favorite son made and used for cat fishing rods.
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Thanks Osage!
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Nice looking rigs man ;D keep us posted on your success.....
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I like it. You gave me some idea's.
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Thanks so much... It's amazing the inspiration that IS has given me as well! I will let you all know how it goes. I picked up a GoPro camera this summer so I will be using that on the ice to do a few little clips of fishing this winter. I will post that when I get some good footage...
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Very nice Bquick, all together so nothing gets lost. Good luck.
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I made something very similar out of a paperclip a few years ago. Works great.
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bquick, nice design. Looks simple and functional.
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Thanks all! You know, KB, I think the paperclip is just about the most versitile invention of the 20th century. It seems to have seen more uses by being converted into more things than anything else. I think Macgyver even used one in every episode! ;D
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Do u mind if I make a couple and call them the bquicks snagger ?
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Do u mind if I make a couple and call them the bquicks snagger ?
lol... I don't mind at all, except if they aren't catching any fish then make sure you cover up the name! ;D If you really do want to make some I can give you all the info on the dimensions and materials. Might save you a bit of time.
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Nice job man!
My only concern would be being made of aluminum they may heat up on sunny days and melt into the ice.
Just something to keep an eye on when your out there.
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Nice job man!
My only concern would be being made of aluminum they may heat up on sunny days and melt into the ice.
Just something to keep an eye on when your out there.
Thanks! And good point. Hopefully it isn't too bad of an issue.
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Yah, worst case you just move them over a couple inches.
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Nice job, I like them a lot.
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Yeah pm me the dimensions please I will modify ire a lil like the stand part
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They look good and simple to use. post some pics up if you have success with them.
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i want to build 2 of these very bad. my only problem is i feel that this trip mechanism will scratch the inside ring of the eye. anyone have any input?
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Very nice. I made up some different Hook setting rigs and I like yours better.
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They look really good nice job I love the home made stuff @) If a person was concerned about it scratching they eye what about some kind of plastic dip or heat shrink maybe even strip some coating from electrical wire and feed it onto the clip.
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That is one of the best designs I have seen yet I'm jealous man >:(...................... .Good luck with those there gonna catch fish.
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M brown you could get a peice of tubing and attach it to the wire
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M brown you could get a peice of tubing and attach it to the wire
Thats a great idea! I thought about even coating it with a hard set epoxy. The epoxy wouldn't have any friction like shrink tubbing but would be softer than the eye of the rod. The other idea I was given was to use a zip-tie through the braces of the eye and insert the trigger into the loop of the zip tie.
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i want to build 2 of these very bad. my only problem is i feel that this trip mechanism will scratch the inside ring of the eye. anyone have any input?
I just posted a thought about coating it with epoxy so i will try that out right now and let you all know how it goes. Headed to the garage right now! haha
MNcrappiecontrol... just sent you the PM.
Thanks again to you all! I will definitely be getting shots of these in action...
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Just made a new trigger similar to yours and it works much better. Thanks for the idea.
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Very very nice!!! I've been thinging of coming up with my own Quick Hook Setting rigs and yours are way beyond anything I ever thought of. Any chance I can get your specs, I would absolutely give you credit for the design? ;D
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I have made some before, they work well. Nice looking base, my are always kinda crude. On the metal trigger you can put multiple line holding bends allowing for different sensitivity settings for larger baits.
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fish4all: I sent the PM... No need to give me much credit as so many things in my design have come from everyone else on IS as well. Great group of people on here!
jeepinjeffxj: I was thinking about that and have even come up with some other designs in my head but after making the ones that I did I figured I should just give em a try first. It's awesome to hear how others have customized their own gear!
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I wonder about using cutbait and setting it with the bail open?
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Nice work, been thinking about making some hook setters myself.
It's all fun and games till someone scratches an eye. ;D
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Nice trigger, it looks a bit safer then the way mine are set up. Nothing like a loaded 4'6" rod putting the smack down on your head.
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Oh my... we all need to get out on the ice before we become a bigger menace to society! haha... ;D
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how did you mount the PVC to the piece of flat aluminum? Just with those 2 L-brackets and a bolt? i feel like it might tip back and forth? Really cool design, might have to make one for my old man, he fishes a lot of pike on the river
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very nice compact design! great improvements on the old "steelie slammer"! that beats the wood ones. imo
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i want to build 2 of these very bad. my only problem is i feel that this trip mechanism will scratch the inside ring of the eye. anyone have any input?
i am build this right now my suggestion is to spray the "trigger" with rubber paint or spray on truck bed liner rust olium makes it
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how did you mount the PVC to the piece of flat aluminum? Just with those 2 L-brackets and a bolt? i feel like it might tip back and forth? Really cool design, might have to make one for my old man, he fishes a lot of pike on the river
My first design was with three brackets with one on the back. It was WAY overbuilt. Went to this design and it will take a whale to dislodge the elbow. :-). I also incorporated thick nylon fender washers between the legs and the plate to reduce wear and tear. As they loosen up from the washer wearing out just snug them up!
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i want to build 2 of these very bad. my only problem is i feel that this trip mechanism will scratch the inside ring of the eye. anyone have any input?
It may, and epoxy won't fix it. Fishing line will eat through epoxy. The only way would be to solder and extra ring onto the existing tip or replace the tip with one without the ceramic.
I did not like having to worry about getting the reel crank in the right position to keep it off the ice. So an improvement would be to keep the reel higher.
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Quick,
How did you make the trigger mechanism? Looks like a bunch of bending involved, or were you able to purchase these?
I also live in Belgrade and would love to see it up close.
Thanks
Blackice.... Steve
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It may, and epoxy won't fix it. Fishing line will eat through epoxy. The only way would be to solder and extra ring onto the existing tip or replace the tip with one without the ceramic.
I did not like having to worry about getting the reel crank in the right position to keep it off the ice. So an improvement would be to keep the reel higher.
The epoxy goes on the wire trigger itself not the eye so this would do the trick. With the materials I used and my settup the reel handle just clears the top of the ice. All that it takes to get the reel higher is to take out the 3.5" length of PVC tube and put in a 4" or maybe a 4.5" tube. I didn't glue them in so that it would be easy to replace. Good thoughts though!
Blackice... Steve, I will PM you my number if you would like to come see it. I made each trigger but after two or so it was real easy!
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Very nice build bquick :thumbsup: you and all the other builds i have seen on here have now inspired me to build a couple of these, thanks for sharing
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bquick, just so you know, I showed my wife the new trigger which is almost just like yours and she tested it out and it scared her. Since she made me buy a notebook today to write things down so I don't forget everything as she says. I wrote in my note book. Linda is scared of my lip Ripper.
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muskyon46... Thanks so much! This place is great for inspiration.
lefty2053... I am still chuckling over that. :clap: :clap: That's pretty funny but are you going to remember what "lip ripper" means in a few more years or will it take on new meaning???
I think I freaked my dog out last night... she came sniffing around as I was setting it and testing the tension and the thing went off. Can't wait to see some scared fish as well!
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I've got your 6 Bquick. :flex: :callcops:
Thank you, sir! Boy did I get fired up in a hurry. lol Soooo... anyone got any plans for how to get the rod to launch the fish out of the hole and into my bucket for me??? I really don't even care to get out of my lazy boy recliner... heck, I might spill my beer trying to run after a fishing rod! ::)
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lol... Thank you all for your support... :bow:
Here are some extra pictures that some have requested. They are of the sides showing the nylon washers between the aluminum legs and plate; of the back of the stand, and of the underside showing all of the screw placements. Hope they help!
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bquick, are you having any trouble with the aluminum melting into the ice on the warmer days?
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bquick, are you having any trouble with the aluminum melting into the ice on the warmer days?
I just started making these this year so it will be a first for me. I have used some wire stands before and never did have much trouble with those. If they become a nuisance then I know that there is a little rubber U shaped gasket that could be slipped over the bottom of the channel and this would keep them above the ice. Or what might work as well is to put a screw at the end of each leg and use a longer one at the back of the plate and then it would rest on those instead of the channel. Just some thoughts until I get to test them out and see how they do. I may not have enough ice to fish on but the little pond here is frozen over... I might just set them out there if it gets sunny one of these days and see what happens in a couple of hours. I will keep you all posted!
Thanks so much, JigginInID!
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That trigger design looks pretty familiar, great way to incorporate the whole setup.
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bquick What if you added some of those strike indicator bells to your rods so you can hear them pop off. You could then fish a little further from them like you would a tip up and not have to worry about taking your eyes off of them as much.
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lol... I don't mind at all, except if they aren't catching any fish then make sure you cover up the name! ;D If you really do want to make some I can give you all the info on the dimensions and materials. Might save you a bit of time.
I wouldn't mind that material, how is the trip line hooked to the front of the board, and would like to see the back from underneath. Nice work I wan't to make at least 2.
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bquick, I got to thinking. If you put the center bar on upside down and then another bar right side up on top of it you could make it adjustable for longer or shorter poles with a few holes drilled in for settings. The first being a shorter piece with the top sliding piece longer for the settings. Of course it would most likely have to be a wider piece on top or bottom so them match up.
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Here I thought this was my "secret weapon" I found an old version of this on e-bay one night and quickly took a copy of the pic, then when I had some time built a couple. It was just the trip wire and I think a length of cord to attach to the rod holder and instructions on how to use, actual manufactured product at one time. I found on the short rod that it wouldn't set the hook for me, I never seen one go off but would find the wire tripped and no fish. I have went to a 5' light action ugly stick and I also attach a bell about the middle of the rod and set one out each door of the shack for trout. With the longer rod I think I have only lost one fish on all the bites. As for scratching the eye of the rod I start with a good wire, I think its stainless, round that point with a small file then finish with a dremel polishing wheel. I haven't inspected my guides but I know the wire is slick and smooth so I haven't worried about it. I do need a better rod holder, currently using a 4' 1x4 with pvc screwed to it and a short cross member at the reel end. To attach the wire trip I have a small eye screw with a large snap swivel, that way I can take the trip wire off and not worry about damaging it.
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bquick What if you added some of those strike indicator bells to your rods so you can hear them pop off. You could then fish a little further from them like you would a tip up and not have to worry about taking your eyes off of them as much.
I have a little mini bobber that I put on the last eye but it got in the way of the trigger. I found that it would have to go on the second to last eye or on the back of the rod near the tip. I like the bell idea better though!
bquick, I got to thinking. If you put the center bar on upside down and then another bar right side up on top of it you could make it adjustable for longer or shorter poles with a few holes drilled in for settings. The first being a shorter piece with the top sliding piece longer for the settings. Of course it would most likely have to be a wider piece on top or bottom so them match up.
I checked that out and they make a 5/8" channel and a smaller one as well that should fit inside the 3/4" channel. Since it was only for a certain rod I decided to make them a fixed size and call it good. That would be a great idea and a simple little keeper pin would be able to hold it all together. Just place the keeper pin about 2 to 3 inches back from the end of the center channel.
Tinker... I love it! I did the same thing to my triggers. Just last night though I dipped the tips in some fiberglassing resin and dried them. It gave them a very very light coat that I am hoping will also help prevent scratching of the eye. We will see. :)
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I have the same basic triger mech and I've caught numerous perch and trout on it with my cheapo 24'' HT rod. It even hooked a little 22" pike with my 26" medium action. I use the cheap red wire holder and ruber bands and that allows me to adjust for daily gear and fish variations.
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I wouldn't mind that material, how is the trip line hooked to the front of the board, and would like to see the back from underneath. Nice work I wan't to make at least 2.
I took some pictures and posted them last night right before your post. One of them is of the underside. As far as hooking up the trigger. I used some 6" wire leaders. One end has a snap end on it and the other has a ball bearing swivel and ring. I ran the ring end over the tip of the trigger and slid it into place and I clipped the snap end to the base which has a small hole drilled in it 1/4" from the end. I will be posting my parts list and instructions in a few. Best of luck!
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Here are my detailed instructions... Hopefully they help those that are going to build their own. Sorry for it being so long.
The length of your rod will determine the length of the middle leg. Basically, for a 25 to 28 inch rod my design should suffice. You might want to experiment just a little though if you are using something longer or shorter. It will most likely work just fine but it's always worth improving! I used 3 feet of 3/4" aluminum trim channel. 5/8" would work if you wanted to go slightly smaller but some dimensions would have to be adjusted. I also used button socket cap screws so that they would have a low profile and you can insert a hex key bit into them for tightening inside of the PVC elbow. All the hardware is stainless but that was just my preference.
Here is the materials list:
1. 3ft of 3/4" aluminum trim channel
1. 1/16"x12" stainless steel rod
4. 1/4x3/4" stainless button cap screws and matching lock nuts
2. #10x1/2" stainless button cap screws and matching lock nuts
2. 1x1/2 stainless brace
1. 4.5"x2"x1/8" flat aluminum stock
2. 1/4" nylon fender washers
1. 1" schedule 40 SxS 45 degree PVC elbow
1. 3.5" thin walled drinking water PVC pipe
1. 6"x30lb wire leader with ball bearing and snap swivel
The main aluminum channel is cut to 16.5" and then the ends are sanded to take away any burrs. The hole for the leader and trigger is centered and drilled 1/4" from the end with a 9/64th bit. The end of one leg was cut at an angle of 31.5 degrees. I sanded down the far end of the angle so that the aluminum didn't come to a point but was blunt or flat. Hope that makes sense. Then the leg was then cut to 9" total from the furthest point of the angle to the end of the leg. Another leg was made and the angle was reversed so that I had mirror images of the legs, one for the left and one for the right side. Holes were drilled in the legs exactly 1.5" from the furthest tip of the angle and centered with a pilot bit of 1/8" to 3/32" and then finished with the 1/4" bit. All holes were gently beveled by hand to remove any burrs.
The aluminum plate (flat stock) is cut to 4.5x2" and the elbow is placed in the center and at the furthest forward edge possible. one of the smaller screws is drilled to fit behind the elbow and one is drilled to fit under the elbow. These two screws hold the center channel in place. The flat stock is placed at a 90 degree angle to the center channel and carefully used to drill the holes out for the channel and then bolt it in place with the smaller screws. I used a 3/16" drill bit for those after predrilling with the 5/32" bit. Really took my time as the bits will want to "walk".
The braces are positioned perfectly on the sides of the elbow and you can even use the mold seam to line them up for drilling. I used bolts that are the exact size of the holes in the braces to keep any wiggle room out of the equation but it requires very acurate hole placement. The larger screws are placed through the holes from the inside of the elbow outward and then the braces are snugged to the sides of the elbow with the lock nuts. I then positioned and centered the elbow on the plate and marked my hole positions and drilled them out first with a pilot hole and then the 1/4" bit. All holes were hand beveled and cleaned up of any burrs.
Then just insert the screws and place a nylon washer between the plate and the leg to aid in folding and unfolding and gently snug up the lock but to hold it in place. Do not over tighten the nut. You only want a little bit of tension on the leg, or you can ad thin nylon washer on befor the nut to sandwich the leg and reduce wear from the nut. After it was assembled I then tightened the screws and nuts that hold the elbow, cut and inserted my piece of pipe to hold the rod and clipped my trigger to the wire leader and the leader to the center channel.
A few tips on bending the wire trigger. I only used 6" of rod to make each trigger but they came in 12" lengths. I went through about 3 rods before I got really good at it! lol The part of the trigger that is inserted into the eye of the rod is 1/2" long and everything else is fairly dimensional after that. Some of the materials will need to be purchased in longer lengths but it shouldn't be to bad. If you are concerned about wear and tear on the eye then insert a zip-tie through the braces that support the eye of the rod and use that to insert the trigger, polish the wire and round the end, or try coating it with some epoxy.
Have fun and PM me if you need anything further.
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That's really cool you posted up such detail for everyone to see. Just another example why this site is so great. Thanks for sharing.
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Just made another holder and moved the trigger wire which I attach to an Eye bolt instead out another 2" so I can test 2 different tensions on the rod. Painting the new one Green and the other is Orange. I am also just using a cheap HT Rod for this. If I wanted to make it for different size Poles I would have to go your way instead of a cut piece of 1X4 Wood for the base.
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A tip up of the hat to you sir. :tipup: ;D
I always enjoy seeing people come up with their own scheme(s) for catching "the one that got away last time."
Very well done. :clap:
*I mite wrap a piece of heatshrink or duct tape around that little end that goes into the rod eyelet so the eyelet isn't rubbing on metal constantly though. Over time it could scratch you're eyelet causing the line to snap on a big fish.
Just a thought.
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Just made another holder and moved the trigger wire which I attach to an Eye bolt instead out another 2" so I can test 2 different tensions on the rod. Painting the new one Green and the other is Orange. I am also just using a cheap HT Rod for this. If I wanted to make it for different size Poles I would have to go your way instead of a cut piece of 1X4 Wood for the base.
Awesome! I think the eye bolt is a great idea... Let me know how they work out for you.
A tip up of the hat to you sir. :tipup: ;D
I always enjoy seeing people come up with their own scheme(s) for catching "the one that got away last time."
Very well done. :clap:
Thank you! It's been fun just helping other people and seeing everyone get excited about trying them out.
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When I made mine, I used the large vinyl covered paper clip. No scratches or worries so far. Been using them for a couple years now. When I dig my ice gear out next week (when I put my deer hunting stuff away, ice gear comes out), I'll take and post a picture of my setup.
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Here are the 2 I plan on trying out this year.
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And here is the way I modified your trigger.
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I am not stealing the star light from bquick because he gets all the credit but i just built the same design as bquicks design but it is adjustable so that you can use anything from a 24" rod to how ever long of a rod you want with just a simple modification if anyone wants my plans or the plans to add to bquicks design pm me
Bquick thanks for the design never would of thought of my variation of this with out your initial design
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I am not stealing the star light from bquick because he gets all the credit but i just built the same design as bquicks design but it is adjustable so that you can use anything from a 24" rod to how ever long of a rod you want with just a simple modification if anyone wants my plans or the plans to add to bquicks design pm me
Bquick thanks for the design never would of thought of my variation of this with out your initial design
HAHA! There's plenty of stars to go around! lol... I can't really take any credit either as there are so many ideas that people have given me to make this possible. Well done IS!
Lefty2053, those look great! I really like the eye bolt as well. Should be real easy to make some quick, in-the-field adjustments.
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that is very cool i might have to give it a shot ;) ;D ;D
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Well here is my 1st run prototype jacker. I made my trigger adaptable to some pole holders i already use. I made this in about 15 minutes so they are in no way as good as bquick's triggers. I will make a few more when i get some more time to get these's bends down clean, straight and neat. The length between where the line lays and the top eyelet catch will be increased, this was the only piece of hardened wire i had that would work. Its does trip rather easy
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hoping to try this out this coming weekend if the ice cooperates. Thanks again bquick
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Muskyon46... Very nice! The rod holder you have definitely will reduce expenses and it looks like a great platform to work off of. Does your line pass permanently through the trigger or when the fish strikes will it be free from the trigger so that it is no longer in the way? Was trying to tell where the line went. Great job and I hope you get out there this weekend.
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It lays on top and is free when tripped, i made the twist upside down at 1st and it kept getting caught up. After closer inspection of yours i got it right
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Perfect. I took mine out yesterday and had a great time. Really makes it more exciting for the kids, they love it! I had about an 80 to 85% hook up rate and it was definitely sensitive enough. And 95% were hooked perfectly in the lip so I didn't have any dead fish as I was releasing everything. The trigger would fall into the water after it was tripped every now and then so make sure you blow off the trigger before you set it so the water drops don't freeze it to the rod or the line. Let me know how it goes! :thumbsup:
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Thats great you got to put it to use, i will keep updates coming
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Bquick, do you remember how much the materials set you back? Prob a few bones less than they want for the jawjacker.... Thanks for the great write up
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Eroknroll. I did the math after building them and it was between $15 and $20 depending on how good a person is at utilizing the materials in certain lengths and where they get them. Most of it is in the channel and the fact that I use stainless hardware. If one really wanted to I am sure you could easily get it down to around $10 each. Obviously, if you utilize an existing rod holder it get really cheap but I needed rod holders anyway! :)
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sweet.... i made 2 last year that worked pretty well from a design similar
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They are an absolute kick! The kids love them and the wife is really getting into it now. I had a good haul of 13 burbot the other night and all but one was lip hooked. The kids loved that they could play and then just come running over to reel em in. You still use yours, Doomsday?
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I am just finishing up 5 of these based on Bquick's design. As he stated, the most difficult part seemed to be bending the trigger. I gave in and went to a local craft shop and bought a pair of pliers for 9 bucks that are designed for making wire jewelery. They worked perfect! The other change i made was on the rod support, I bumped it up to 1 1/4" PVC to accommodate a sightly larger diameter rod handle. There were a few comments on how to alter the design for different length rods, I think you can accomplish this by simply changing the length of the steel leader that attaches the trigger? Simple cheap and effective, similar effect as adjusting the length of the center leg. Thanks for the great design and all the comments. Now. . . . just waiting for some Ice! Maybe by next weekend?
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That's awesome!!! You'll have to let us know how it goes. Hope you get some ice soon!
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I am just finishing up 5 of these based on Bquick's design. As he stated, the most difficult part seemed to be bending the trigger. I gave in and went to a local craft shop and bought a pair of pliers for 9 bucks that are designed for making wire jewelery. They worked perfect! The other change i made was on the rod support, I bumped it up to 1 1/4" PVC to accommodate a sightly larger diameter rod handle. There were a few comments on how to alter the design for different length rods, I think you can accomplish this by simply changing the length of the steel leader that attaches the trigger? Simple cheap and effective, similar effect as adjusting the length of the center leg. Thanks for the great design and all the comments. Now. . . . just waiting for some Ice! Maybe by next weekend?
Good deal, I am still messing with my trigger system which I now have narrowed down to a simpler trigger. Will make them up today and post them soon.
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All these homemade gizmo's inspired me to put a couple together quick. It took me 10-15 minutes. I used coated steel leaders and brass safety pins so they don't rust. Just doing table top tests they work very well without hardly any force. I put red electrical tape on the rod tips for high visibility also, because of the color of rods they are. :thumbsup:
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I like the electrical tape idea! Good thought.
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Ilike the Red electrical tape thats a nice touch.
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When I showed my neighbor my Lip Rippers he gave me a roll of Blazing tape. Hunters orange so I can just pull off a strip of 4" and tie it to the tip of my rods.
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I got a bunch of that just sitting in my hunting pack too... lol
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Good deal, I am still messing with my trigger system which I now have narrowed down to a simpler trigger. Will make them up today and post them soon.
Thanks Lefty2053! I am looking forward to seeing your design pic's when you get a chance to post them! I am always looking for the better "mouse trap"! I appreciate all the comments and posts from everyone to help me catch more fish. Interesting discussion on the General Topic board (Jaw Jaker Users be ware) regarding the type of rods to use with these set ups (graphite vs. glass). Since I haven't had a change to use mine yet, it has been really helpful in my rod selection. Keep the comments coming!
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I finally settled on a trigger design I like, after several attempts. They used a little more rod than the 6 inches Bquick used, but it was easier than trying to keep them to a predetermined length. I did stick with the 1/2" length for the catch that hooks in the rod tip eye. First attempt at this, but thought I would post some pic's. Can't wait to give them a try.
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Dl0582/DSC_0837_zpsb50e8ba8-1_zps29ac300f.jpg)
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Dl0582/DSC_0834_zpscbb8b2b4-1_zps996e6906.jpg)
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Dang! Those are some well made triggers!!!
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Good job Cool Hand. I see you finally got out of that Prison Camp. How many eggs can you eat? I have 9 Dozen right now from my Chickens.
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What we have here, is a failure to communicate!
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What we have here, is a failure to communicate!
Stroher Martin
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Coolhand those are awesome trigger designs..........That's definitely gonna get er done.
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Here is my modified/Simplified Triggers.
(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa414/lefty2053/100_1756_zps7f97891c.jpg)
(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa414/lefty2053/100_1757_zps08e4fb01.jpg)
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cool its nice too see that there are still people that are willing too take the time to make their own equipment rather then just run out and buy it.
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Looks good lefty...............Ho w many fish have they caught for ya?
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Well done, lefty! So far I am liking the hooksetters. Let us know how they work out for ya.
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Does anyone know where I can get the specs to build one of these and what type of material used for the trip
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Hey bquick can you pm me the specs for your auto set please I can't find anything on these thanks
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I haven't had a chance to really try this out yet. I can tell you that if I just wiggle the trigger it set's it off. The wind wont set it off but I am sure a lite bite will. Bending more or less on the eye hook will make it easier or harder to set it off. Making one now for my friend that just got a Jaw Jacker for Christmas. Making sure it works with his rods. Most likely his son will use this one.
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Nice job lefty! Let us know the results once you can test it out!
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Hey bquick can you pm me the specs for your auto set please I can't find anything on these thanks
Check page 3 of this thread. It should be on that page. If you can't find it I can pm you later. I'm on my phone right now so I will have to do that later.
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Where do you get the wire for the trip mechanism?
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Where do you get the wire for the trip mechanism?
I purchase it at the hardware store. They usually come in packages of two in the rod and tubing section.
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Had to go to a craft shop to find it in my area.
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What rod length and action would you recommend. I have rods that go from 24"-30" and actions from UL to MED/HVY jigging rods
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What rod length and action would you recommend. I have rods that go from 24"-30" and actions from UL to MED/HVY jigging rods
I have used the 27" Ugly Stik Lite Ice Rods in a medium action. They seem to work flawlessly. I picked mine up for $15 a piece. I am sure that a light action would work but if you get a rod with the super light tips to them, then you might not get the rig to work as well. Here is a link for the rods so that you can see which ones I use. Shop around though!
http://www.fishusa.com/Shakespeare-Ugly-Stik-Lite-Ice-Rod_p.html (http://www.fishusa.com/Shakespeare-Ugly-Stik-Lite-Ice-Rod_p.html)
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I have a total of 17 ice rods I use
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Does anyone know if these are legal in Michigan I can't find any info
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They should be there similar to the jaw jacker and i think there only illegal in Minnesota
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Hey bquick what did you use to make all your bends with for your trigger? I found some 3/32" aluminum rod I'm gonna use for my trigger
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I used some wide flat nosed pliers that were heavier duty than your standard slip joints. From there I just bent it by hand and then finished it with a second set of pliers. I looked at the aluminum rods in the thicker gauges than the 1/16" stainless steel but was concerned about the strength and ability to hold their bends. I would also be cautious of the aluminum developing small stress fractures at the bend point. Although it flexes easier, sometimes aluminum also cracks and doesn't hold together and stretch like steel. Let us know how it goes.
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I used one of my old red metal rod holders with a 6" leader and used a 24" med/light and a 28" ultra light and works good with both of them the heavier rod I have to bend the trigger just a lil bit to hold it. And if you make one use caution and don't hook your hand like I did setting it off lol
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I used one of my old red metal rod holders with a 6" leader and used a 24" med/light and a 28" ultra light and works good with both of them the heavier rod I have to bend the trigger just a lil bit to hold it. And if you make one use caution and don't hook your hand like I did setting it off lol
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I should have put a note in this thread to not test it out with a hook attached. Glad it works though!
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I might take it out tomorrow and give it a try on some crappie
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Finally got on the ice today to give these a try! They worked great! The bite was very slow, but we had steady hits and hook ups on these babies! All lip hooked except one. Can't wait to get out again, I hope the I doesn't suffer too much from this weeks forecast of warm weather. Thanks again Bquick for the great idea!
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Glad you are getting out! Keep icing them!
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Was thinking one could use ACCO Ideal Clamps for the trip wire, straighten them out and then away you go, pretty smooth finish on them as well
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(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y417/nicjohnsrud/DSCN1814_zps6e3e4899.jpg)
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Here's my version. Haven't used it yet, but I can't wait to try it! It's a 1x4 pine board, with a couple of carriage bolts and large washers holding down a bent bucket rod holder. Used a 9" wire leader and some copper wire for the trigger. Thanks for the design, hope it works :)
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Nice job you all! Mine are working great so get out there and rip some lips!
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They look great, nice call on the copper wire. It will make it easy to adjust the sensitivity on the Ice.
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They look great, nice call on the copper wire. It will make it easy to adjust the sensitivity on the Ice.
Thanks! I was worried it would slowly bend it and set it off unexpectedly, but it's been cocked for a couple of days now on my kitchen counter, and hasn't bent yet.
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Johnsrud, Please post how it works after you try it. Looks Great!
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Here's my version. Haven't used it yet, but I can't wait to try it! It's a 1x4 pine board, with a couple of carriage bolts and large washers holding down a bent bucket rod holder. Used a 9" wire leader and some copper wire for the trigger. Thanks for the design, hope it works :)
nice....now you need to make me one ;D we need to get out and try it out. good job man.
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Please post how it works after you try it. Looks Great!
R&D or what? ;D
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My brother in law made his triggers out of jumbo paper clips, they work!
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Bquick, thanks for the inspiration on the design. I have added a couple features to the one that I just built tonight. I did add the extra loop so it doesn't tear up the rod as previously mentioned. Also I didn't know what would be the right length with various rods so I made it adjustable by putting a bunch of staples in at different lengths to clip to.
(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a555/psturdevant/photo1_zps502887cc.jpg)
(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a555/psturdevant/photo5_zpsda454da1-1_zpsd345db00.jpg)
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(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a555/psturdevant/photo4_zps9f3b3c9e-1_zpse33577c4.jpg)
I've also uploaded a couple videos to show the trigger mechanism going off.
Let me know what you guys think. This is the second version I have built and never tested any on the ice yet.
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Your variable tension system is pretty ingenious! Great work. :thumbsup:
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Yea, I like those staples for tension.
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Thanks. I think they are a little closer than they needed to be and don't quite have as much travel as I wanted. The pole used is a 24" light action" as that is all I have now. Figured it would make sense to have enough travel to go up to a 5' pole if possible. I guess I put another staple or eyelet on the back by the rod holder to loop the trigger through for short poles and not run through on long poles. This would give me and extra 24" of travel roughly. I'll try it tonight and take some pictures if it works.
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If you look at the one I made and picture this. I plan to make a new one today that has more board with a hinge in the middle of it so it folds under. I will then just drill a new hole for different sized rods on the board.
|-----------------------------------------|----------------------------------| End of board
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Rod Holder Hinge Drill holes along here
I will only make it long enough for up to 48" Rods.
I will still use the Eye Bolt for my Trigger to attach to.
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Man talk about a better mouse trap, this stuff is awesome............... .Boys
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Pretty cool that everybody is posting pics and redesigning it to suit their needs and make it better. Lefty... Post some pics of the hinged one for us!
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Pretty cool that everybody is posting pics and redesigning it to suit their needs and make it better. Lefty... Post some pics of the hinged one for us!
X2 these are all looking awsome guys
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Lefty, I like the idea but then it gets pretty big and it would be hard to put outriggers/stabilizers on it.
I have found metal clothes hanger wire to be very good for trigger and other tasks. Just the right stiffness to hold shape but easy enough to make it into the shape you want. Best of all, it's free because I have a closet full of them that I don't use!
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Pretty cool that everybody is posting pics and redesigning it to suit their needs and make it better. Lefty... Post some pics of the hinged one for us!
I might not make the hinged one for longer rods. But I do have one almost done now that will use a 30" Rod and have the same adjustments on it like the Jaw Jacker for tension. It may use 27"-30" Rods. I will most likely use the same Trigger I last made.
If I wanted a longer rod I would just cut another piece of 1x4 and then hinge it to the end of the ones I am making. TO go from the 30" Rod to say a 36" Rod you would only need about 4" more of wood because of the bend of the rods. Still thinking this out,want this one to be my last design.
SO the trigger will always be the same size but the rod will adjust in tension. The heavier tension setting for a 27" rod will work for a 30" rod. I should have one done tonight after I go into town for more parts.
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Looks great. I might have to build some. Thanks
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Here is my new Rod Hook Setter. Uses 25"-32" Rods and can have up to 4 Tension settings.
27" Rod
(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa414/lefty2053/100_1762_zpsbd0d3244.jpg)
30" Rod
(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa414/lefty2053/100_1761_zps4a5dadf8.jpg)
The extra settings comes from the other 2 holes on the rod holder. One in Front and One in back of the holder. The one in front lifts the rod holder. The one in back moves the rod holder back.
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Man you guys are wanting me to start building some of these,you have my gears grinding now. I think they would be awsome for all fish. Great job guys. :thumbsup:
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Bquick, thanks for the inspiration on the design. I have added a couple features to the one that I just built tonight. I did add the extra loop so it doesn't tear up the rod as previously mentioned. Also I didn't know what would be the right length with various rods so I made it adjustable by putting a bunch of staples in at different lengths to clip to.
(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a555/psturdevant/photo1_zps502887cc.jpg)
(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a555/psturdevant/photo5_zpsda454da1-1_zpsd345db00.jpg)
(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a555/psturdevant/photo2_zpsc8fda961.jpg)
(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a555/psturdevant/photo3_zps65be217e-1_zpsfde8c457.jpg)
(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a555/psturdevant/photo4_zps9f3b3c9e-1_zpse33577c4.jpg)
I've also uploaded a couple videos to show the trigger mechanism going off.
Let me know what you guys think. This is the second version I have built and never tested any on the ice yet.
Is there a chance the washer could wrap around the line as it sets or reeling fish?
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Michianafisherman, I don't believe it can really get caught in there. I was worried about that at first but after messing with it a bunch of times in the basement, it seems to always just danggel and not get caught. I haven't used it on the ice yet and wk t be able to for a while with this weather coming in.
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Hey Guys. With these rigs, do they count as tip ups? I'm assuming they do but they use a jiggin pole......
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Hey Guys. With these rigs, do they count as tip ups? I'm assuming they do but they use a jiggin pole......
If you put a flag on the tip of the rod they would! Without it, in most states they would just be a rod holder holding your rod and setting the hook for you. Needs to be some type of signal flag showing a fish bite.
I'm making a couple of these for next year!
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I guess a piece of duct tape can fix that.
Thanks
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Hey guys, Built one last night and figured out a solution to the eye-damage conundrum. I put a keyring/split-ring splitting and holding both of the 45 degree rod-tip-eye-supports. This means that it will not wobble when using rod for active jigging, but will be available when in hook-set rig. Also, can be spun to completely encircle supports so it is not lost in transportation. One rod, many applications :-)
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That is really a slick idea. I like it.
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Great ideas I have been looking for something like this but havent been able to find any plans and from what I have watched on youtube they don't have instructions how to make them.
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Welcome to Iceshanty Wis2Ohio.
Piece of cake. ;)2
Get yer engineering degree and with a good junk box & the known location of a few choice dumpsters, they won't cost ya much and will be perfect for the species you're after. :unsure:
There is one other way ~ go back to page one and read the entire thread. ;)
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Hey guys, had my units out yesterday and we didn't have a lot of action where I was but most of the action was on these. Between me and a few friends out on the ice we had 20 tip ups out and 2 of these units. 90% of the fish came from those 2 units. Easy to set up, 80-90% hook ups. Worked on 8" to 17" pickerel and a small crappie. Very happy with them. If I can get some new poles I'll be building more.
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Went with one of the other triggers on this trip and they worked great, Just have to watch the water freezing up on them after dark. Hooked a few pup lakers no prob
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i like seeing ingenuity. looks like some thing to try out too. nice one!
why not use Vinyl-Coated Paper Clips to save guides?
just built a trigger using one.
looking to attach the trap wire to a bucket style rod holder with home made leader black vinyl coated.
http://www.staples.com/Staples-Jumbo-Vinyl-Coated-Paper-Clips-500-Tub/product_480109
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This is my first build and it works great in my basement sure hope it works as good on the lake when we get ice in Ohio.. Guess I can't add pics yet so have to click on link for pics.
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/wis2ohio/100_0366_zps525e28e4.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/wis2ohio/100_0367_zpsc940c16d.jpg
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This is my first build and it works great in my basement sure hope it works as good on the lake when we get ice in Ohio.. Guess I can't add pics yet so have to click on link for pics.
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/wis2ohio/100_0366_zps525e28e4.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/wis2ohio/100_0367_zpsc940c16d.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/wis2ohio/100_0370_zps5713a74e.jpg
You just need to click on the img code for each pic and it will automatically copy it. It even says copied in the box after you click it. Then just paste the img code in you posts. Looking good
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Thanks for the info musky..
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Looks good to go. Good luck out there.
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Thanks for the info using automatic hook settings.
Mark
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Hey guys, I've taken my unit out and it worked great for the bites that we had but they were pretty limited that day. I am targeting crappie, perch, panfish using small minnows. Currently I have a size 8 trebble through the back of the minnow. Do you guys think I can use a smaller hook for these fish or go away from using the trebble and go to a Aberdeen?
I thought i would have the best luck with a trebble because of how fast the hook set is but I think the bait doesn't swim nearly as well with a Trebble in it's back. Let me know your thoughts.
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I thought i would have the best luck with a trebble because of how fast the hook set is but I think the bait doesn't swim nearly as well with a Trebble in it's back. Let me know your thoughts.
I am hoping to use mine over the weekend so can't say for sure what works and doesn't but I would like it would be better to use a reg hook instead of a trebble hook the minnow in the lips instead of the back and set your jig at a 90 degree angle that way it makes the minnow look like it's swimming more of a natural motion I think having a minnow hooked in the back is more for northern and musky.. Hope this helps you out
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Used my Lip Ripper yesterday and had 5 hits on it. All 5 got away. Here is why. If you look at my signature you will see the Stringese Fastach which I was using yesterday on the lip ripper. I would take off the Treble hook and slide a chunk of Shrimp over the hook and then reattach the hook. I figure I had too much bait on the treble for the fish to get hooked. Lesson learned. I am just happy to get in the win column after 5 Skunk outings. Ended up with 4 trout on my Jigging rod.
On a side note. I had bought a bunch of spools of the Cajun Red Ice line. I had it on all my Ice rods starting out this year. After 5 times getting skunked and very few bites I switched out the line to Berkley Vanish. Yesterday I caught fish and had more bites then the previous 5 trips. I read so many good things about the line but I will not ever use it again.
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Good info to know. I just got a bunch of the Fastach's, guess I won't use them on the lip rippers. always wondered about the red line, I tend to like the yellow.
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Good info to know. I just got a bunch of the Fastach's, guess I won't use them on the lip rippers. always wondered about the red line, I tend to like the yellow.
I don't think it was the fastach as much as it was me stuffing the hooks with shrimp. I will just cut the Shrimp in half and use half the thickness of shrimp so the hooks are still exposed some.
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Just finished building 2 units haven't had a chance to try them out yet. I used the pattern of "bquick" in the original post, with the exception I made my center leg a bit longer due to the 40 inch rods I use. I have been pondering the issue of eye damage from the trigger, I don't think that the wire will damage the eye of a rod with a ceramic insert. I use a ceramic rod to sharpen my knives, I'm thinking that the ceramic is harder than the wire is. Any thought on this?
Les
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A cracked ceramic is worse than a chip. It is hard to see a crack until your line shows the effects. I check all ceramic eyes before using them each time out. It's almost better to use poles without them because of the extra care needed to keep them from being broke. A ceramic would work good though, but inspect it closely.
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I have been wanting to make something like this for a while now. Today was the day, I didn't buy anything. I use one of my pole holders, dug threw some old tackle and found a steel leader and used 12ga copper wire for the trigger. Now I will say I was worried about the copper wire not being strong enough but it is and I can adjust it without major tools.
Now I wish photobucket would work so I could upload the photos to show you all.
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Figured out the trick for hooks and minnows on mine. Went away from trebles and started using size 4 and 6 Aberdeen hooks. Started hooking trough the lips of the fathead minnows as someone on here mentioned. That didn't work, never got a hook up. Started hooking through the back, 100% hook ups. Pretty pumped. I have got small blue gills (4-5") up to 17" pickerel all on the same set up without adjusting the trigger. Need to build some more, sell my old tip ups. Anyone interested in some HT tip ups? $5 each or $15 for 4 of them.
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Here is my set up I made this afternoon. I have it set for a very lit strike right now but with the copper wire trigger I can adjust it for a heavy strike with just a little tweek in a few seconds
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t319/ilarcher/IMG_0562_zps9a3383ec.jpg)
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Looks good. I might have to make some for my rod holds that are just like yours.
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Here is my set up I made this afternoon. I have it set for a very lit strike right now but with the copper wire trigger I can adjust it for a heavy strike with just a little tweek in a few seconds
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t319/ilarcher/IMG_0562_zps9a3383ec.jpg)
ilarcher, I have these same rod holders and I thought about using them but I worried about the rod falling out once the unit goes off. Thus why I think it would be better to do a similar thing from a coil spring rod holder. Please let me know when you use this on the ice if you have the problem of the rod falling out of the rod holder.
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I have a simalar set up and I had no problems with the rod coming out of the holder, but they were just 10 inch Gils. Two of these were caught on a set up similar. Only the string was attached to the reel handle.
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I am worried about the same thing. As I was testing it on the counter it would flip out if I didn't hold the line, but if I held the line like there was a fish on the end it would not flip out. I did get some 1" pvc from work today that I'm going to put on just to make sure it won't flip out. With the warm weather and rain today its going to be a little while till I can get back on the ice to try it out.
I will post more pic's when I add the pvc.
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You may be a Le to use a piece of light wire looped around each end to keep it in place.
When mine goes off from a blue gill, you wouldn't know there was a fish on for a second or two. I think it will flip out if you don't put something on it.
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I have thought about just zip tieing it to the rod holder(or rubber bands). Most of the time I just pick the whole thing up when I get a bite anyway. Then just clip the ties off when its time to pack up. I can build it fancier than what it needs to be just because I like to tinker and customize things. The more I think about it I hope it is heavy enough or I'm fast enough to get to it before it goes down the hole on a big walleye, cause thats what I plan on useing it for.
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I just built some new ones tonight. They are same idea as before but with improvements. I used hardwood flooring for the base, a coil rod holder instead of PVC, added reflective automotive tape to the rod tip with an arrow indicator for laughs. Also have used mostly stainless components. I am thinking about Tieing a bell to the second to last eyelet so I can hear them go off better (easier when I am drunk). You guys got any other ideas for an audible feature for these?
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Nice ,and I really like you guy's triggers.
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Went 2 for 2 on its maiden voyage and 1 for 1 the next night.
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Good deal. I still haven't gotten a lot of bites on mine and when I did I had the treble hook stuffed with shrimp so the fish couldn't have gotten hooked.
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I used my setup over the weekend for the first time worked great on the gills that tripped it just wish Ohio had more darn ice so I could fish some more.
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OK guys here is what I believe to be my final set up.
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Thanks again for all of the ideas, let me know your thoughts.
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Looks great. Good luck out on the ice and stay safe.
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in my playing with this rig, i found it hard to get it set light enough. maybe thats a good thing for hookup ratio? i feel it will be great for dead sticking crappie ,with minnows though. some nice rigs guys. :clap:
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I can get mine pretty light. It depends on your length/angles of the trigger and the finish on the trigger. It needs to be very smooth without any tool marks in the metal. The distance from the bottom of the trigger (whereof rotates) to the loop that goes through the pole eyelet needs to be as short as possible. The loop that the line sits on should be level or slightly above level and only as log as t needs to be.
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I can get mine pretty light. It depends on your length/angles of the trigger and the finish on the trigger. It needs to be very smooth without any tool marks in the metal. The distance from the bottom of the trigger (whereof rotates) to the loop that goes through the pole eyelet needs to be as short as possible. The loop that the line sits on should be level or slightly above level and only as log as t needs to be.
Very good advice there. I have been making a few more triggers today. I found a roll of wire with some coating around it that works real good. I just stripped the coating off and I have the perfect wire.
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Little help please......when your units are all set up and ready for the bite, are the bails of the reels open or closed?
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Closed fer crossin' their eyes. ;)2
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Closed... Need the tension to set the hook.
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A quick tip for adjust-ability on the pre-load of the rod... use a rope about the diameter of a shoe lace and pick up some of the spring clamp deals you find on the stings of a jacket hood. Attach the rope to your rod holder, loop it through your trigger with the spring clamp in between.
Now you have infinite adjustments on the pre-load for different baits, species, and/or rod lengths.
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That is a good idea but then how am I going to adjust my hood?
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Got another question for you experts out there. After fishing catching a couple fish with my automatic hook setter, I sometimes have a problem of the trigger freezing to the rod eyelet, causing excessive trigger pull for it to release. This happens because every time it goes off, the trigger falls in the water and then it freezes to the eyelet. Should I dry off the trigger every time?? I really don't want to do that, should I lube it every time? I really don't want to do that either. Is there something that I can coat the trigger and eyelet with that will resist freeze ups? Maybe a coating that is water repellant and slippery like a Teflon?
Let me know if anyone has the magical answer for my dilemma. Thanks guys
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great trigger design, incorporated it into my device that "slams'em" Much more sensitive and adjustable
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That is a good idea but then how am I going to adjust my hood?
You want too much LOL.
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Is there something that I can coat the trigger and eyelet with that will resist freeze ups? Maybe a coating that is water repellant and slippery like a Teflon?
Let me know if anyone has the magical answer for my dilemma. Thanks guys
Try some furniture polish, cooking spray or water repellent like wax, bear grease, sno-seal etc. I have some old X-country ski wax I'm going to try
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Try some furniture polish, cooking spray or water repellent like wax, bear grease, sno-seal etc. I have some old X-country ski wax I'm going to try
Perfect, probably the only thing I have at the house is Vaseline. I suppose I can go get some wax. Thanks
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Got another question for you experts out there. After fishing catching a couple fish with my automatic hook setter, I sometimes have a problem of the trigger freezing to the rod eyelet, causing excessive trigger pull for it to release. This happens because every time it goes off, the trigger falls in the water and then it freezes to the eyelet. Should I dry off the trigger every time?? I really don't want to do that, should I lube it every time? I really don't want to do that either. Is there something that I can coat the trigger and eyelet with that will resist freeze ups? Maybe a coating that is water repellant and slippery like a Teflon?
Let me know if anyone has the magical answer for my dilemma. Thanks guys
Just read through the whole post, as I've been thinking about building or buying a few jackers. Now I think I'm gonna start tinkering. But wondering if a guy put some sort of oil base fish sent on the trigger, maybe that would help with freezing and help things slide smoother????
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Throw a can of vaseline in your sled and rub that on your trigger/eye. It will keep it from freezing up. A can of pam cooking spray in your pocket would also work, but you will have to shoot it after every reset.
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I will definetly be making some! Thanks for all the great ideas everyone!
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Good idea. How do you adjust your rod tension and how did you construct your rod holder? Thanks.
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Went with one of the other triggers on this trip and they worked great, Just have to watch the water freezing up on them after dark. Hooked a few pup lakers no prob
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/IMG227.jpg)
I made one just like this the other night. I got to use it for the first time this morning. I set it up, set up a couple other things, heard it snap, turned around... all that was there was the rod holder. I guess I forgot to set my drag properly. Lost my rod and reel. :%$#!: I feel worse about the fish that is now swimming around with a rod hanging off of it's mouth than I do about losing the rod.
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Great thread, I used my buddies jawjacker twice this year and was amazed by it but for the price of them, making my own is the way to go!
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ilarcher, I have these same rod holders and I thought about using them but I worried about the rod falling out once the unit goes off. Thus why I think it would be better to do a similar thing from a coil spring rod holder. Please let me know when you use this on the ice if you have the problem of the rod falling out of the rod holder.
This is what I did to correct the problem with mine.
(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u635/massNtrash/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8aa0294d.jpg) (http://s1325.photobucket.com/user/massNtrash/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8aa0294d.jpg.html)
Here it is set up
(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u635/massNtrash/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse7377188.jpg) (http://s1325.photobucket.com/user/massNtrash/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse7377188.jpg.html)
And one shot of my trigger
(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u635/massNtrash/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse7721d5d.jpg) (http://s1325.photobucket.com/user/massNtrash/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse7721d5d.jpg.html)
It seems to work well but I can't get it to set up as light as my actual automatic fisherman. I will have to go use it and see if it is actually is an issue.
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Howdy MassNtrash, Before you use your nice set-up, may I help with three modifications that will lighten the effort of the fish to fire your rig ?
1st and most important, the wire in the top eyelet of the rod, if bent toward the rod, about 1/8" to 3/32" will help ease the "pull". Be very careful in doing this. Tool marks will create a notch and that's not wanted. It will not be smooth firing. When setting, only use the upper 1/8" through the eyelet. If you shorten that wire by 1/2 it's length, you should get better results.
2nd thing that will help, is reducing the distance, from the swivel out to the wire you just bent. This will make it more of a "hair" trigger.
3rd. You could increase the distance from the swivel to the "line loop", thus, giving the fish more leverage.
Let us know how this goes, please. ;)2
PS: May need another wire, good luck.
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Thanks for the tips. I was thinking of doing those things as well. This was just a first run and it isn't to heavy right now and it should work for trout at least. I may make another one to use for perch.
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I have been tinkering with these triggers for a while and I found that by using a small round file to cut a notch in the wire will give you a hair trigger,my notch is cut at an upward angle and hooks onto the eye of the rod,also the notch will not work with eyes that have the centers in them the eye must be just the metal kind,like on a fly rod,you will have to tinker with it to get it how you want but thats the fun in making them
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I made a few more triggers today. Played around with a few different ideas that I have had ended up with one I feel will work well. It releases with less of a pull than previous ones I've made but it is still secure when setting it. We will have to see I plan on putting them to the test on Thursday.
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Holly Cow Batmat for a mere $130 you could have one of these. I got to say it is the best I have seen for home made.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ice-Fishing-Rod-Holder-Trout-automatically-sets-your-hook-Tip-up-Gear-/251356909613?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3a860a102d
Everyone here needs to get out to the shop and get busy now. This is pretty slick.
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I got mine on the ice for the first time today. I managed to catch 6 fish off of it! Lots more missed though, I think the main cause of the misses was I was using too bit of a hook. It was a number six worm hook that I had tied up using a drop shot rig. Do you guys have any suggestions? The ones that I did get were perfectly hooked.
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This is what I did to correct the problem with mine.
(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u635/massNtrash/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8aa0294d.jpg) (http://s1325.photobucket.com/user/massNtrash/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8aa0294d.jpg.html)
Here it is set up
(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u635/massNtrash/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse7377188.jpg) (http://s1325.photobucket.com/user/massNtrash/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse7377188.jpg.html)
And one shot of my trigger
(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u635/massNtrash/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse7721d5d.jpg) (http://s1325.photobucket.com/user/massNtrash/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse7721d5d.jpg.html)
It seems to work well but I can't get it to set up as light as my actual automatic fisherman. I will have to go use it and see if it is actually is an issue.
So I made one of these and fished with success yesterday until a catfish pulled the entire thing through my 8" hole. MAKE SURE your rig is wider than your hole. I won't be making this mistake again.
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Awesome thread guys!!! ;D I am going to make two of these ASAP!
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The paperclip works great. I even use it during the spring/summer when I drift fish off my yak
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Gotta go make a couple
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great work everyone!
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Cant wait to make a few of my own!!!! :tipup:
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You all have been fantastic on modifying and revamping these! I didn't get to fish last year due to shoulder surgery so I really never even checked iceshanty. All of the new postings last year are awesome. Got out my gear and can't wait to fire it up again. Keep the ideas coming. Happy Hard Water!
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Welcome back, bquick !
Thanks for resurrecting this Jewel of yours ! ;)2
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haha! Thanks for the welcome back! It's good to have a season of fishing to look forward to instead of just recovery from surgery.
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Oops, a bit tardy in responding to your reply of surgery, bquick.
Here's hoping all is well now and a good season awaits you. :thumbsup:
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Oops, a bit tardy in responding to your reply of surgery, bquick.
Here's hoping all is well now and a good season awaits you. :thumbsup:
Thanks so much! I just got a striker predator suit and all is well in the world of ice fishing. :) Hope your season is a good one as well.