I was at Conesus today and got talking to a guy who told me that he was fishing Lamoka lake yesterday and one of the guys he was with landed a 50" 30lb true muskie not a tiger. here is the pic i want tou hear what you guys think.:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :'( :'( wish it was me :'( :'(
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I was at Conesus today and got talking to a guy who told me that he was fishing Lamoka lake yesterday and one of the guys he was with landed a 50" 30lb true muskie not a tiger. here is the pic i want tou hear what you guys think.
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj77/JMinerAA/massivemuskie-1.jpg)
I'm going with Tiger Muskie on this one ! A true barred muskie has no markings on the cheeks and gill plates.
A Tiger Muskie does ! The muskie these guys caught has tell tale cheek markings of a Tiger Muskie. The bars on a true muskie are consistent and not broken. The markings on this muskie seem to be broken and not consistent. A sure way to tell would be the tips of the tail ! A Tiger has rounded tips whereas a true muskie has pointed tips on their tail ;)
I'm going with Tiger Muskie on this one ! A true barred muskie has no markings on the cheeks and gill plates.
A Tiger Muskie does ! The muskie these guys caught has tell tale cheek markings of a Tiger Muskie. The bars on a true muskie are consistent and not broken. The markings on this muskie seem to be broken and not consistent. A sure way to tell would be the tips of the tail ! A Tiger has rounded tips whereas a true muskie has pointed tips on their tail ;)
ok tell us CPC... was it caught on live or dead bait.... ???
two more words being it was out of season.... DAMN SHAME :'(
Definitely a beautiful fish and congrats on the catch/release and the quality photo....i.e. no massive amounts of blood involved unlike a couple of unmentionable pics from last season. The photo shows a bunch of very understandably proud fishing buddies, is done cleanly, and makes it much more believable that the fish was immedietly released. I do without a doubt agree on the replica 100%. Congrats again!!
That was a lifetime fish, I'd be damned if I ain't gonna snap a pic.
^^^Lighten up man. If you ain't EnCon, then let it be. That was a lifetime fish, I'd be damned if I ain't gonna snap a pic. Apparently, they felt the same.
Plenty of slobs out there would have taken that fish, and we would be none the wiser.
Grumpy2 is absolutely right here. It's a great fish, but even taking it out of the water and snapping a pic is a violation of the regs. as any fish caught out of season must be immediately returned to the water (ie. no pics). Not taking away from the great catch and the fact that this is wonderful fish, or that what was done here is nothing compared to what happened last year, but the regs are the regs, and if it was me or i was with friends that caught it, then it wouldn't have been taken out for a picture, and certainly wouldn't end up on the web (as this is a major reason the guys last year were found/busted).
the top muskie is a tiger, the bottom is a true muskie. there is a big difference in the colors and markings.\
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My buddy just cought a 31.8 # Muskie sat. up here on the St.Lawrence river I will try to get the pic and post it later ... same thing true musky not a tiger.... Great catch Guys...
well its hard to say because the top fish is still small and still has its juvenile markings
Grumpy2 is absolutely right here. It's a great fish, but even taking it out of the water and snapping a pic is a violation of the regs. as any fish caught out of season must be immediately returned to the water (ie. no pics). Not taking away from the great catch and the fact that this is wonderful fish, or that what was done here is nothing compared to what happened last year, but the regs are the regs, and if it was me or i was with friends that caught it, then it wouldn't have been taken out for a picture, and certainly wouldn't end up on the web (as this is a major reason the guys last year were found/busted).
That top fish is def a tiger .those aren't juvenile markings...and it came from conesus. They don't have pures ;)
Not so much the color as was mentioned earlier. that can vary by body of water etc but the distinctly alternating rows of dots and bars is a giveaway.
I recently caught a 75 inch 80 lb Muskie. Released it right away .No photo. You believe I caught the fish right? ;D
I recently caught a 75 inch 80 lb Muskie. Released it right away .No photo. You believe I caught the fish right? ;DReminds me of when i caught nessi swiming in my pool
Grumpy2 is absolutely right here. It's a great fish, but even taking it out of the water and snapping a pic is a violation of the regs. as any fish caught out of season must be immediately returned to the water (ie. no pics). Not taking away from the great catch and the fact that this is wonderful fish, or that what was done here is nothing compared to what happened last year, but the regs are the regs, and if it was me or i was with friends that caught it, then it wouldn't have been taken out for a picture, and certainly wouldn't end up on the web (as this is a major reason the guys last year were found/busted).
people need to know the full story before they judge
Great Catch! Can't believe that came that came though a 6" hole....WowThat fish probably has a 26" to 28" Girth. It would be scraping coming out of a 9" hole !! ;D ;D
I'm going with Tiger Muskie on this one ! A true barred muskie has no markings on the cheeks and gill plates.i agree! Tiger. and one hella nice one too! ;D Notice the bars go over the back... ;) caudal fin looks rounded.
A Tiger Muskie does ! The muskie these guys caught has tell tale cheek markings of a Tiger Muskie. The bars on a true muskie are consistent and not broken. The markings on this muskie seem to be broken and not consistent. A sure way to tell would be the tips of the tail ! A Tiger has rounded tips whereas a true muskie has pointed tips on their tail ;)
the problem is it was not him or any of our group that posted the pic in the first place. we dont know who posted it but they should keep to their own buis. if he wanted his pic on here he would have posted it we just wanted a pic of the fish after all a 50" muskie through the ice on 6# test is the fish of a lifetime. now that memory is tainted cause people cant mind their own buis.Yea.. I can relate to that !! That Sucks !! It's very cool that you guys released it. It looked like it was in great shape. As long as that wasn't the target species.. I say no harm no foul .
i agree! Tiger. and one hella nice one too! ;D Notice the bars go over the back... ;) caudal fin looks rounded.Knuckle Heads... If it's a tiger.. than who put it there ?? No pike for it to be a natural hybrid.
Adam2k- Just pointing out the law...what folks choose to do is their own business.
With veeery few exceptions, Bass are NOT out of season, you just can't keep them. That's why they call it a 'catch and release' season. The 'immediate' part of release doesn't apply to c+r season so pics ok
pic ended up on here and ticket was issued for failure to release the fish immediately
Exactly.
Loudmouth879 - you need to read the reg and decide for yourself. As I understand it you take the fish out, remove the hooks and immediately return it to the water unharmed. Anything that prolongs the process may be a violation. Now if someone snaps a pic while you're taking the hooks out then that's probably ok, but if you leave the hooks in simply so you can pose for a pic then my understanding is that it's a violation. The guys from last year DID get a ticket, based in no small part to the pictures posted here by others and that was the intent of pointing out the regs - not to bash these guys or judge them, but to inform on the law in case they were unaware and to also inform others that may not know. There's no bashing going on here, and that is a phenominal fish, it's just out of season.
i for 1 woulda took a pic also. Just wouldnt of posted it on this site so all the jealous fisherman wouldnt give me a hard time and so the dec that has nothing better to do than look for illegal pics couldnt give me a ticketX2
well not many people fish where i do so i wouldnt have that problem. Thats what i like about the canal. No one really fishes it. And my group has caught good size muskies and northerns in the past few years. And that is not targeting either species. But im glad no one is ever there to take pics of fish besides my buddiesThose are tiger muskies in the canal and the season opens and closes with pike. COMPLETELY LEGAL !! Photo all you want. Not sure why you don't get that !!
i for 1 woulda took a pic also. Just wouldnt of posted it on this site so all the jealous fisherman wouldnt give me a hard time and so the dec that has nothing better to do than look for illegal pics couldnt give me a ticketJealousy !! Yea !! that's it !! AND FYI....The DEC are always trolling Hunting/ Fishing sites like this.. catching people who break the Law.
. Identifying the difference between a tiger muskie and a muskie doesn't sound too clear cut to someone who's not very familiar with them. ;DWEll !! How about when your fishing on a lake that doesn't have tiger muskies. I bet you could figure that one out !!
there is also true muskies in the canal. I have seen 2 caught in the last 3 years:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: YEA... OK !!
I dont have a strong opinion, but regardless of my stance on whether people should or shouldn't post pics of other peoples fish, it still stands that the root cause of any picture getting posted is taking the picture in the first place and clearly that is solely within the fisherman's control.A FISH IS "TAINTED" because it was caught out of season, give me a break.
not judging either, but as they say, if ya cant do the time, don't do the crime. ya have to decide for yorself if its worth the potential consequences. for me, it would be tainted right off the bat by it being out of season, as esox v said.
Esox- i have no reason to lie. 3 years ago i close to a 40" muskie. Didnt measure it. Just snapped a pic and sent it back. A few weeks after that my buddies nephew come out with us for his first ice trip and caught a little under 30" muskie. It to went back. Both fish were definately true muskies and had a real nice blue tint to both fish.
[/quotofNMADDNESS you just incriminated your self. KIDDING.
Esox- i have no reason to lie. 3 years ago i close to a 40" muskie. Didnt measure it. Just snapped a pic and sent it back. A few weeks after that my buddies nephew come out with us for his first ice trip and caught a little under 30" muskie. It to went back. Both fish were definately true muskies and had a real nice blue tint to both fish.Check the fins !! you can't go by coloration. I have caught tigers with all different coloration. And I'm not saying your lying.
Esox-well now you got me curious about the muskie ive caught. I always thought it was a true muskie but ill have to show someone who knows a little more than me to find out for sure. Either way the blue in it made it a beautiful lookin fishWell to be honest it would depend on what Canal..If your talking about the Barge Canal... Then you would most likely be talking Tigers And they are WAY under fished !!
Either way the blue in it made it a beautiful lookin fishYou got that right !! They are some of the prettiest freshwater fish that swim..
Yes the good ol barge. There is only a few broken lines on the fish but there is also a few horizontal lines on the cheeks. Im just not so sure anymoreThe pure bred would have sharp points on it's fins and tail. A tiger will have rounded off fins like a pike..
A FISH IS "TAINTED" because it was caught out of season, give me a break.
awesome fish.....i woulda taken a pic too.....some people question if he was targeting muskie but it was said it was caught in a 6 inch hole, why on earth would someone target muskies using a 6 inch hole? must of been targeting something else like pickeralThere aint no way that fish came out of a 6" hole !! That fishes girth is way bigger than 19 "
It's a pure, even pures can have markings on their gill plates, I have a few to my credit like that. Color and markings vary from fish to fish, we have caught 50" full spotted to almost clear ones off the same lake, and it's a small lake.How do you like your Tuffy ?
A few variations from 1 lake, last is a tiger...
Just for the record,
i didn't catch this fish. The pic was being sent to many peoples phones and it was sent to me.I thought it was an awesome fish so i posted the pic.If i knew it was going to cause controversy i would have never posted it.
We don't own a Tuffy, the 2 boats in the pics are a Tracker Targa 17 and an old tiller 16' Alumacraft, mines a Skeeter S-135, built on the same hulls as todays new 17' TuffyWith your screen name and the windshield in the last pic looked like it was from a Tuffy. Most people out here have no Idea what a tuffy even is. Skeeter makes a nice boat !!