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Alaska => Ice Fishing Alaska => Topic started by: akriverrat on Jul 04, 2011, 12:24 PM
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Gonna try and learn how to post pictures on here from my phone, wish me luck. Got the floor all done, ended up with six holes. Now to get goin on the skis.
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Well that didnt work, maybe if I do THIS....
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One more try
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Nice start! keep the pictures coming. :thumbsup:
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Lookin good so far. You can get away with 2x4 floor joice 2 foot on center no problem.
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Are you going to add in floor JOISTS? Or just put the runners on the bottom of your floor? If no JOISTS, I suggest using Liquid Nails or similar to stiffen it up.
BTW - Don't forget the back door..... so you can be like Dube. ;) LMAO!!!
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Just gonna mount the skis undernieth. Already placed two three inches in from the edges and am seriously contemplating adding a third down the middle. Am gonna definately add a 4x6 across the front to mount the hitch but thinking a third ski would be a good thing. Skis are a 4x6 with a 2x6 on top for extra clearance.
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IMO - A 4X6 has no business in a shanty. A cabin maybe. Others will chime in if I am wrong.
What material are your skiis made of?
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I think with the amount of weight your going to be dealing with, you will need to hook your hitch directly to your runners. If you hook to the house frame, you risk tearing out a Framing member, been there, done that ! :'( I used a 2" Solid steel round rod thru my runners to tie on to my old 8x12 "Hotel California" ! Ditto on the 4x6 Dirtofk, Way too much weight !
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Skis will be skinned with umhw or puckboard....if theres a difference. Prolly no right or wrong on skid material just overbuilt, underbuilt or just right. If the majority of our lakes up here were polished I would have used 4x4 but we gotta deal with snow on most our lakes.
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JMO - But two 4x6 skis would be good enough for a 8x10 shack. I think you will run into trouble with the third ski. :o There have been alot of people who have learned the hard way on this site, about putting a third ski on and having it freeze in. there is no way to chip that one out.
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"putting a third ski on and having it freeze in. there is no way to chip that one out" ! Ain't that the truth Rick ! ;D
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I have personally have "not" had that problem... but I have seen pictures and heard of people burning their shacks down or ripping them out of the ice. :nono:
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Very good point......didnt even think bout that!
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I did see one shack get Completely Demolished once when the owner tried to pull it out ! The guy ran his 1/2 steel cable tow bridle thru the floor joists and bolted it to the opposite end of the shack ! He was advised to put a little pressure on the bridle with his truck and bump it loose with a bar ! NOPE, He decided a good running start would work better, WRONG !! The floor and walls tore off the runners and when it hit the snow, it completely Disintergrated ! :woot: Ya gotta love Drunken foolishness, it's actually Quite Entertaining ! :roflmao: :clap:
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Maybe Dube or Jigginfrogs can post a pic if their hitches?
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I bolted a plate to the inside of each ski with a little hanging above the top of the ski. I drilled a hole through the part that stuck up above the ski. I then took a piece of 2 inch angle iron and cut half the anggle off so I had a 2 inch by 3 inch piece of metal sticking from the end of the angle iron. I drilled a hole in it the same size as the hole in the plate. Do this to both skis and angle iron. Now put a bolt through the plates and the angle iron tabs with a couple washers and snug them up. Next after its bolted and everything is tight bend them to meet in the middle about 5-6 feet from the front of the shack. Now you can weld them or bolt them your choice. I welded mine. Once there fastend at the top figure what type of hitch it will go on and bolt or weld the aproprieate hardware on to accept the hitch....Now the most important part. With a third piece of angle iron just in front of where you bolted it to the plates on the skis cut it to fit and bolt or weld it in place...walla perfect A-frame hitch that is stronger than the dickens and WONT put stress on your skis. Very important is to get the third piece close to the plates without hampering and movement......Wish I had a pick but I dont. You can drive to lake louise if you like and take a peek as thats where they both are. Hope this helped
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If anyone needs some springs for their hitch tongue, I have 2 bags of them. Heavy duty diesel engine springs. Some are doubles, one inside the other. Free to good home.
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Well hows the build coming along? PICS man PICS
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Couple setbacks on the build, umhw not comin as easy as I thought and my metal stud supplier has been shunnin me off. Looks like ill have to pony up for the materials. Also blew out the back that put me down for a few days and kenai dipnettin is somethin that must be handled, if not this weekend next for sure. I did get the skis mounted and got a coat of paint over the whole floor. Umhw is definatley next before I start standin walls. Ill post more pics when I make some progress.
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I am trying to utilize Simple Green barrels cut up for the runners. White, plastic, free.......
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It always seem like when ever you start building a shack, there is always something that throws a wrench into the works ! Good luck and keep us posted !
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I am trying to utilize Simple Green barrels cut up for the runners. White, plastic, free.......
Good idea...i was also thinkin about them cheap roll up sleds cut to fit your runners. Plastic barrel material would hold up pretty well I would think.
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How are you going to attach them to your skis? I am wondering because you need the thickness to be able to counter sink your screws so they dont drag or catch on everything.
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I did see one shack get Completely Demolished once when the owner tried to pull it out ! The guy ran his 1/2 steel cable tow bridle thru the floor joists and bolted it to the opposite end of the shack ! He was advised to put a little pressure on the bridle with his truck and bump it loose with a bar ! NOPE, He decided a good running start would work better, WRONG !! The floor and walls tore off the runners and when it hit the snow, it completely Disintergrated ! :woot: Ya gotta love Drunken foolishness, it's actually Quite Entertaining ! :roflmao: :clap:
a buddy of mine has a camper that goes in the back of a pick up truck,he converted it to a shack and set it right on the ice.. no runners, nothing...tried to tell him better but he said "its a perm bro,i don't need to slide it anywhere" and i told him.."it will be there permanently alright" long story short he had to take a log chain and wrap it completely around the camper at the base and yank it out.. all the corners are dented and torn up,it wouldn't even fit back into the truck bed all twisted up like that so we had to sludge hammer them in.. it was his first year with it and its a total mess now.. damn shame everyone doesn't just trust that i have all the answers ;)
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Some people go thru life learning things the hard way, My Grandpa told me to alway pay attention to what people have to say or else I'd learn life's lessons the hard way !! :roflmao:
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smart grandpa surf
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Uhmw....5.5"x1/2"x10' = $255.00!! That dosent even complete one ski. Looks like PVC trimboard for my shack. 50 bucks will do both skis.
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White plastic barrels.... try the car washes. If you can't find some, PM me. I have a source.
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I used 1/4 inch on my shack with no problems. cas plastics behind the old movie hall in wasilla
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What about this?
http://anchorage.craigslist.org/zip/2480585173.html
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I have used truck liners on the top of my ski-doo trailer for the ski's to run up. They work great and the carbides don't catch at all.
This might work depending on the weight of the hut.
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I saw a guy try the truck liner thing.....didnt work at all.
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cmon slacker wheres the photos man...
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cmon slacker wheres the photos man...
Maybe this will get you off his back? ;)
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The blood is mine.... he bit me!
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Dandy one right there
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Nice fish Mike. O and happy upcoming birthday.
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Nice fish Mike. O and happy upcoming birthday.
Thanks Jason, I heard you and Jake might be planning trip out.
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Uhmw....5.5"x1/2"x10' = $255.00!! That dosent even complete one ski. Looks like PVC trimboard for my shack. 50 bucks will do both skis.
I got a 3/4" X 5" X 10' piece while in AK last year fer waaaaay less than that.
Last September I got that piece a couple of 10" X 10" X 3/4" pieces and a piece of 1/4" rubber 18" high by 6 feet long for about $70 or $80 if I recall right.
The UHMW and rubber were surplus.
http://www.alaskarubber.com/ (http://www.alaskarubber.com/)
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I just walked out after the guy quoted me $30 for a scrap 4" X 30" X 1/2" thick. Biff was busy.
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Well after some slow times at work and the daughters dog deciding to jump outta the truck (WHILE ITS MOVING!) I finally got the skis fully done. Went with the 3/4 vynil trim board, really cheap and should work just fine. (http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q238/akriverrat/2011-09-04_17-53-37_470.jpg) now just gotta get this pig flipped over so I can start closin her up!
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1/2"X 2" UHMW countersunk and bolted to 1/2" conduit...going on it's 4th season. Scratches on plastic look worse than really is...stuff is tough as concrete, but is pricey.
Friend of mine works for a plastics company and just dropped off some "planks" last week that I'm using as floor supports on my pop up... 6 ea. @ 3' X 4" X 1.5"...would have run me about $400 to order...got these for nuthin' :thumbsup:
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(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q238/akriverrat/2011-10-28_18-16-03_288.jpg) finally got goin on the shak again. One more insulated panel to put up, roof, door, and a window and she will be closed up at least.
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lookin good chief. Dont procrastinate too long or itll be to cold to finish her up..
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Got that last panel up, skirting is all on, roof is covered but still needs metal, and the window is roughed in.... Not a bad day.
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Kinna a lazy day today but i managed to get the rolled asphalt roofing tacked on and the window installed. Still have to button up the edges on the roof and install a door then she will be enclosed. Trim her out and next weekend im hoping to get a woodstove welded up.
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She's coming together nicely, some of our smaller ponds are skimming over ! We're getting closer !
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Looks good! Do you have a lake picked out yet?
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Looks good! Do you have a lake picked out yet?
Yea... Long, louise, hidden, flat, and i gotta find a good pike lake maybe up towards trapper creek ;D
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how is the dog? nice pics!
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I see your only planning on pulling it one way, your skis are only turned up in the front. When I was building mine, I was told to bevel your skis on both ends. Incase the snow is deep or you hit a drift and get stuck. You can always pull it backwards to get it out without plowing a bunch of snow or having your skis dig in.
Just a suggestion. :)
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Good suggestion rick, i was thinkin bout beveling the other side anyway but because i didnt want my hitch in front of the door. Hate to be runnin out the shanty to chase a flag and get wadded up in the hitch. Thanks for the insight, double the reason to turn up both ends!
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Looking good!
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Prospector, the dog is good and has better vehicle manners now ;) he was tied in when he fell out and the leash threaded between the cab and bed. Think it kept him from the back tire long enough for me to stop but not before it pinched his skin on a hindquarter, i believe he pulled outta it and that motion fileted the skin off from up under his stomach down the outside to to his haunch. Not sure how many stitches he got but it was alot. Also all his toenails were worn down to the nerves and lotsa road rash including on his testicles!! Hes a tough one though, riding "up front" on the way to the vet he displayed uncomfort but didnt complain at all! After a month of sattelite dish hes back to his goofball ways and now seemed to develope a liking for rubbin his hindquarters up against my legs like a cat only lots harder. Think its cause his injury or maybe hes jyst a spazz. When he shows up i say heeere kitty kitty kitty! Drives my daughter nuts ;D
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Looking good riverrat! Keep those photos coming. Curious hole design, and I'd love to see how they're fished... Winters here! better hurry!!!
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Spent last weekend and today fabbin and weldin up a wood stove. Its pretty boxy plain jane and pretty heavy but i got enough sheet steel to do something smaller if need be. Legs, chiminny port and paint it will be done. Ill try to post pics tomorrow.
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Looking good ak. You guys ice'd in up there yet? Also keep those pics comming!
Nick.
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Looking good ak. You guys ice'd in up there yet? Also keep those pics comming!
Nick.
x2... i wanna see a pic of some fish coming out of that castle!
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Nice work, that things a tank. I am building a 6x8 with similiar skis, do yall think my atv or sled can pull it. Exterior wall are covered with 3/16 luan and the interior will be covered in the same. Im pretty sure it will pull ok but Im just a little nervous that I would have to wait untill more ice to pull it with my truck. I want to fish it first ice with my son!
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Nice work, that things a tank. I am building a 6x8 with similiar skis, do yall think my atv or sled can pull it. Exterior wall are covered with 3/16 luan and the interior will be covered in the same. Im pretty sure it will pull ok but Im just a little nervous that I would have to wait untill more ice to pull it with my truck. I want to fish it first ice with my son!
No problem pulling it with your sled. I pull a 8x14 around with a 570 fan bearcat all winter.
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Installed the woodstove today and got her cookin. Left for an hour to cut hole covers at my buddies shop and come back about an hour later. Stove was shut down little past halfway and it was still a hundred degrees in there! I havent even insulated the roof yet, think its gonna work just fine...