Author Topic: Buddy Heater hose question (Read 8493 times)

Loudmouth879 · « **on:** Dec 17, 2013, 10:13 PM »

Looking to get a hose to connect a mr buddy heater to a bigger propane tank this year.... Which hose is better the black or green?

SoDakdick · « **Reply #1 on:** Dec 17, 2013, 10:17 PM »

do you mean the quick-connect

da man cave shack · « **Reply #2 on:** Dec 17, 2013, 10:18 PM »

Both will work just make sure you use a filter with the bigger tank.

twincities86 · « **Reply #3 on:** Dec 17, 2013, 10:20 PM »

Quote from: da man cave shack on Dec 17, 2013, 10:18 PM

Both will work just make sure you use a filter with the bigger tank.

Never had a problem without using a filter on my 20lb tank.

hardwater diehard · « **Reply #4 on:** Dec 17, 2013, 10:21 PM »

The "green" hose ...does not require a filter ...make sure that the package refers to that.... other hoses require a filter...other wise the hose breaks down and mucks up the regulator and the fuel lines . Believe Gander has stocked them in the past.

Loudmouth879 · « **Reply #5 on:** Dec 17, 2013, 10:24 PM »

Quote from: hardwater diehard on Dec 17, 2013, 10:21 PM

The "green" hose ...does not require a filter ...make sure that the package refers to that.... other hoses require a filter...other wise the hose breaks down and mucks up the regulator and the fuel lines . Believe Gander has stocked them in the past.

yea I saw them at gander just wanted to make sure I get the one that doesn't need a filter.... The hoses for the big buddy heaters come with a filter on them wish the ones for the little buddy heater did as well Thanks!

Sawtooth · « **Reply #6 on:** Dec 17, 2013, 10:36 PM »

I understood the filter protected the heater from too much pressure out of the big tank.

Webby · « **Reply #7 on:** Dec 18, 2013, 03:36 AM »

Mr. Heater's Big Buddy Hose with Regulator F271803 converts the heater from the use of small fuel cans which may need to be changed several times to the use of larger propane tanks saving on runtime and cost. A POL connection attaches directly to the 20 lb propane tank and it's regulator reduces the high pressure of the 1.3 gallon tanks or larger to lower pressure providing safer operation. The F271803 eliminates the need for a filter and is for use with Mr. Heater Big Buddy Heater MH18B. Includes 12' Hose and 1 Year Warranty.
Here is a link to one at Gander.
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Mr-Heater-12-Buddy-Hose-w/Quick-Connect&i=447220&r=view&aID=504C1&cID=GPGRABBER_447220

biggamefisher · « **Reply #8 on:** Dec 18, 2013, 01:43 PM »

Quote from: twincities86 on Dec 17, 2013, 10:20 PM

Never had a problem without using a filter on my 20lb tank.

It's only a matter of time!!! Here is what happens, with the hose directly attached to bulk tank, the high pressure of the gas flowing thru the hose causes the oils and contaminents from the rubber to be released into the flow, using this method the pressure is not reduced until it hits the regulator(s) in the heater, by that time the contaminents are flowing thru the heater, they can clog all the small passages in the ceramic plates and elsewhere in the heater. By using the inline filter, the filter eliminates the issue. When using the quick connect hose for the BB, the regulator on the hose attaches to the tank, therefore reducing the pressure before it reaches the hose, hence no need for a filter when using the quick connect fitting on the heater.

BigDynamite · « **Reply #9 on:** Dec 18, 2013, 05:41 PM »

So the only reason for a regulator would be to eliminate the need for a filter - is that what I'm hearing?

biggamefisher · « **Reply #10 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 05:41 AM »

Quote from: BigDynamite on Dec 18, 2013, 05:41 PM

So the only reason for a regulator would be to eliminate the need for a filter - is that what I'm hearing?

No, you always need a regulator on any propane appliance, it reduces the high pressure in the tank to the operating pressure for the appliance. It's a matter where that regulator is located, the BB has two regulators built into the heater inside the doors that house the 1lb tanks and in one of those same compartments is a quick connect fitting too. When you run a hose with no regulator tank fitting, from the tank to the regulator of the heater, the gas moves from the tank to that regulator under high pressure so it causes the oils and contaminents out of the rubber, the built in regulator reduces the pressure right at the heater, and if no in line filter is used, that crap eventually plugs up your heater. Now if you choose to use the quick connect fitting on the heater instead, the regulator on that hose attaches at the tank, reducing the pressure of the gas before it hits the hose, therfore no issue of oils and contaminents being forced out of the rubber.

da man cave shack · « **Reply #11 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 06:53 AM »

You do not want to run the mr buddy's off a regulated hose as they all ready have a built in regulator and two regulators will mess with it working right. Trust me I tried to have it run of my camper lp line that was regulated and it would not work.

Loudmouth879 · « **Reply #12 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 09:53 AM »

back to my question tho.... If I use the green hose on the regular mr buddy heater there is no need for a regulator correct?

blacknoise · « **Reply #13 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 11:06 AM »

This is directly from Mr. Buddy, i had the same question.

"You can either use our 12 foot hose (#F273702) and fuel filter (#F273699) or our 10 foot hose (#F273704). F273704 does not require a fuel filter.

Thank you,
Bill Sisley
Technical Service Manager"

Loudmouth879 · « **Reply #14 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 11:15 AM »

Quote from: blacknoise on Dec 19, 2013, 11:06 AM

This is directly from Mr. Buddy, i had the same question.

"You can either use our 12 foot hose (#F273702) and fuel filter (#F273699) or our 10 foot hose (#F273704). F273704 does not require a fuel filter.

Thank you,
Bill Sisley
Technical Service Manager"

Thanks!

blizzardfisher · « **Reply #15 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 01:48 PM »

Quote from: twincities86 on Dec 17, 2013, 10:20 PM

Never had a problem without using a filter on my 20lb tank.

been using mine with a black hose for about 3 years now hooked to 100 pounder and 20 pounders no problems

biggamefisher · « **Reply #16 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 01:50 PM »

Quote from: da man cave shack on Dec 19, 2013, 06:53 AM

You do not want to run the mr buddy's off a regulated hose as they all ready have a built in regulator and two regulators will mess with it working right. Trust me I tried to have it run of my camper lp line that was regulated and it would not work.

You couldn't be more wrong. The BB hose with the regulator (on the tank end of the hose) uses the quick connect connection fitting on the heater (it's inside one of the doored compartments next to the built in regulator, can't remember which side), the quick connect connection bypasses the built in regulators that the 1lb tanks usually screw into. For the other version of hose, the filter screws into the one of the built in regulators, then the hose goes from the filter to the tank, this hose doesn't have a regulator on the tank end cause it uses the regulator built into the heater, thats the hose that needs the filter becuase the tank pressure is not reduced until it gets to the heater thus causing the oil and contaminent issues which necesitatws using the filter. You guys gotta' get this right, don't think it can be much clearer! Someone who uses an unregulated hose while using the quick connect is going to be in some serious trouble!!!!!!!!!!

Both the hoses mentioned screw into the built in regulator, seems the 12' hose is made of material that will leak oil so it needs to be used with the filter, the 10' hose looks like it's made of different material and will not leak oil................... ..just make sure when using the quick connect hose.......it has a regulator on the tank end.

bushyjr · « **Reply #17 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 02:34 PM »

Once you have ever cleaned one you will always run a filter just to be safe

Water and ice · « **Reply #18 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 02:37 PM »

What do i need to do to clean the BB?? Any tips on what to use and how to do it easy and effetivly.? Might need to do this on mine.

bushyjr · « **Reply #19 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 02:43 PM »

I just took apart but there is u tube videos on them. Get pipe cleaners and quality tips and I used rubbing alcohol

Quote from: Water and ice on Dec 19, 2013, 02:37 PM

What do i need to do to clean the BB?? Any tips on what to use and how to do it easy and effetivly.? Might need to do this on mine.

JimQ · « **Reply #20 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 02:46 PM »

Quote from: bushyjr on Dec 19, 2013, 02:34 PM

Once you have ever cleaned one you will always run a filter just to be safe

I agree with that!

Ran mine for 4 or 5 seasons without a filter and had to take it apart and clean all of the oil out of it. It was a PIA to get the heater apart without breaking plastic.

I use a filter on mine now. It's only $10. Money well spent if I never have to do that again.

Q

BigDynamite · « **Reply #21 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 03:38 PM »

Thanks so much for the information - I learned a lot. I use a Portable Buddy (single ceramic plate) with a 5lb tank, the 12' black hose and a filter. I'm not sure I knew what caused the oils to come out of that hose but I knew you had to run a filter because of it. I was not aware of any of the stuff about a regulator inside any of the units, nor did I know that the Big Buddy had two different styles of connection built in (one that needs a regulator and one that doesn't as I understand what I read here). Getting the larger unit next year and I'm sure glad I read about this.

Tight Lines and Hard Water

blizzardfisher · « **Reply #22 on:** Dec 19, 2013, 08:44 PM »

on the big buddy heater, how do you know which side is regulated and which side isn't? is it marked somewhere on it or on the original box or should I go online with the company and try to find it?

biggamefisher · « **Reply #23 on:** Dec 20, 2013, 12:23 PM »

Both sides have regulators.........the regulator(s) are inside the doors on each end of the heater, it's where the 1lbers screw into...............on one of the ends (can't remember which end) inside the door behind the regulator is a brass quick connect connection, that brass connection is not regulated, that is why you need to have a hose with a regulator on the tank end to use the quick connect option.

ASATMillerbluegill · « **Reply #24 on:** Dec 20, 2013, 03:47 PM »

Ive given thought to going this route too, but dragging a huge 20# dog turd around with me, seems to always have me going back for 1# cylinders.

twincities86 · « **Reply #25 on:** Dec 20, 2013, 06:29 PM »

Ok ok, gosh. I went out and bought a filter today, 10 bucks.

blizzardfisher · « **Reply #26 on:** Dec 20, 2013, 06:40 PM »

Quote from: biggamefisher on Dec 20, 2013, 12:23 PM

Both sides have regulators.........the regulator(s) are inside the doors on each end of the heater, it's where the 1lbers screw into...............on one of the ends (can't remember which end) inside the door behind the regulator is a brass quick connect connection, that brass connection is not regulated, that is why you need to have a hose with a regulator on the tank end to use the quick connect option.

thanks. have had no problems so far but good thing to know in the future. appreciate it. Should probably read the directions. lol

DTro · « **Reply #27 on:** Dec 20, 2013, 07:19 PM »

The green hose is HORRIBLE when it gets cold, do not buy the green one, get the black one and rig up whatever filter/regulator you need.

I invented some new 4 letter words with the green hose.

FG Steve · « **Reply #28 on:** Dec 27, 2013, 12:05 PM »

My fifth year using the green hose. Yes, it is stiff, but not unusable. Worth the trouble to avoid the need for a filter, for me. One more thing I don't have to buy/carry/replace. YMMV.

Kidder · « **Reply #29 on:** Dec 27, 2013, 12:55 PM »

Just get a "green" hose and be done.

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Author Topic: Buddy Heater hose question (Read 8493 times)