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Title: Shiners?
Post by: rlace19 on Dec 01, 2021, 08:56 PM
Anyone know a place that has live medium shiners in stock now?
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Post by: Digs on Dec 01, 2021, 09:31 PM
Dunns in moultonborough does I think.
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Post by: Lv2hunt on Dec 02, 2021, 06:54 AM
Wildlife sports in manchester had shiners all year long i'm sure they got some.
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Post by: HuntnFish603 on Dec 02, 2021, 09:03 AM
They do. Swung through there yesterday.
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Post by: Tony Thunder on Dec 02, 2021, 02:48 PM
Haven’t been in there this season, but tackle shack in merideth.
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Post by: Guinea on Dec 02, 2021, 04:48 PM
Trading post in Bristol said they were getting more in tomorrow morning.
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Post by: BHardy on Dec 02, 2021, 09:56 PM
If it’s an option trappin’s been good this week, warm water still has em active. I have enough to last for a good month now.  Saves me from running around trying to find bait. Hopefully only have by smelts again this year. 
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Title: Re: Shiners?
Post by: 802livin on Dec 03, 2021, 06:28 AM
If it’s an option trappin’s been good this week, warm water still has em active. I have enough to last for a good month now.  Saves me from running around trying to find bait. Hopefully only have by smelts again this year. 
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I tired trapping my own shiners last year with zero luck. I tried I think 7 or 8 spots, all of which I was certain I’d pull something up 12 hours later. I have a minnow trap that I would set out with dog food for 12-18 hours and each time not a single minnow.

It was early season around now and then right after ice over. When it was open water I’d toss the trap out, when there was ice I’d keep it 2-3’ below the ice. I tried a small stream/river where there was a large pool of not really moving water, I tried this small pond that’s weedy and no more than 5-6’ deep is a couple spots there (also the same body of water I ice fish on), I tried pretty much a mud pit that always has just 1-2’ of water, I tried a very small pond that’s so small it doesn’t have a name that had all kinds of cattail weeds, also tried a small pong on a local golf course.

I am 100% positive it’s really the spots that I am trying that are just not good but looking for any tips or pointers on what I should be looking for for a good bait trapping spot.

OP- sorry to hijack your thread just saw the success bhardy had and am jealous.

Cheers!

Thanks
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Post by: BHardy on Dec 03, 2021, 07:05 AM
I tired trapping my own shiners last year with zero luck. I tried I think 7 or 8 spots, all of which I was certain I’d pull something up 12 hours later. I have a minnow trap that I would set out with dog food for 12-18 hours and each time not a single minnow.

It was early season around now and then right after ice over. When it was open water I’d toss the trap out, when there was ice I’d keep it 2-3’ below the ice. I tried a small stream/river where there was a large pool of not really moving water, I tried this small pond that’s weedy and no more than 5-6’ deep is a couple spots there (also the same body of water I ice fish on), I tried pretty much a mud pit that always has just 1-2’ of water, I tried a very small pond that’s so small it doesn’t have a name that had all kinds of cattail weeds, also tried a small pong on a local golf course.

I am 100% positive it’s really the spots that I am trying that are just not good but looking for any tips or pointers on what I should be looking for for a good bait trapping spot.

OP- sorry to hijack your thread just saw the success bhardy had and am jealous.

Cheers!

Thanks

All I can say is don’t give up. Your doing nothing wrong. It took me nearly two years and 20 plus ponds to find just 2 good reliable producers. Both of those ponds are deep, spring fed, but no larger than a 1/4 acre.   

Growing up in Maine it seemed like every single puddle had em, never had any trouble catching them.  But down here it’s a lot different, a lot of places are just barren. 
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Post by: HuntnFish603 on Dec 03, 2021, 08:23 AM
I agree with this Bhardy. When I was younger living in Maine, we used to kill them everywhere. My old man actually had a bait business going out of the house that I'd help with.
Of course that was 30 years ago and things can change but in my experience Maine was far superior than NH for catching bait.
I've given up here in southern NH. Not a shiner to be had anywhere I can find.
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Post by: 800stealth on Dec 03, 2021, 09:09 AM
I find it can be really hit or miss, shiners are picky in the little pond I live on... Toss the trap out and let it sink 3 feet to the bottom and nothing on a 24 hour soak, but hang that trap on stick so its tickling the surface in the same spot and get a few dozen in a couple hours. I have the best luck right next to the intake for the flood control unit and below the outlet pipe in the spillway... The spillway is pretty much rapids but the shiners dig it, though I do get a lot more baby bluegill mixed in under the spillway.
Just been buying my bait for the last 2 seasons except for the occasional hour or 2 jigging up big pondies. The 10-15 bucks a week is worth not having to deal with the traps and tank and more so dealing with the turds that mess with the traps...
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Post by: HuntnFish603 on Dec 03, 2021, 11:00 AM
The 10-15 bucks a week is worth not having to deal with the traps and tank and more so dealing with the turds that mess with the traps...
This is how I feel too Ray. Is what it is. Especially when many weekends I'm only buying a dozen chasing trout. It only gets a little pricey when I take my boy out bassin and we're smokin through 5 doz a day...lol
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Post by: 800stealth on Dec 03, 2021, 12:47 PM
This is how I feel too Ray. Is what it is. Especially when many weekends I'm only buying a dozen chasing trout. It only gets a little pricey when I take my boy out bassin and we're smokin through 5 doz a day...lol

Small price to pay to see your boy chasing flags all day though right? Hopefully he pulls off that 8+ wall hanger this year.
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Post by: BHardy on Dec 03, 2021, 01:20 PM

Just been buying my bait for the last 2 seasons except for the occasional hour or 2 jigging up big pondies. The 10-15 bucks a week is worth not having to deal with the traps and tank and more so dealing with the turds that mess with the traps...

For most folks I agree, but both my bait ponds are within 10 minutes of my house, and fairly private.  My shack is also less than 10 minutes from my house so if the mood strikes or a couple hours suddenly open up I’m rolling. 

I’ve kept many aquariums my entire life, so for me…it’s just another tank! 

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Post by: BHardy on Dec 03, 2021, 01:31 PM
I agree with this Bhardy. When I was younger living in Maine, we used to kill them everywhere. My old man actually had a bait business going out of the house that I'd help with.
Of course that was 30 years ago and things can change but in my experience Maine was far superior than NH for catching bait.
I've given up here in southern NH. Not a shiner to be had anywhere I can find.

Seems like back then practically every mom and pop convenience store sold bait as well in the “back” room next to the returnables center!  I used sell em under the table when I was kiddo, or trade for free pizzas! 

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Post by: Tony Thunder on Dec 03, 2021, 03:53 PM
I had to stop trapping at my regular spot, because someone kept pulling my traps out of the water. It’s a walk to the stream in back of my house but I know I’m cutting across other peoples property to get there, but nothing is posted and my neighbors are cool and said it wasn’t them, so I just stopped.  Not worth getting into a argument with someone who thinks they own the stream. I thought about putting a game camera out to see but again just not worth my time. I have enough success on artificial lures
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Post by: Guinea on Dec 03, 2021, 08:07 PM
A homeowner woman was talking to me one day as I was about to go open water fishing at the access next to her house. Wishing me luck, blah blah.

Then she told me that some people were there at times with traps "catching all those little fish that could have gotten bigger for you to catch" and she was "so angry" about them. She called F&G blah blah. Bad, bad men.

Some people don't even know the difference between shiners and shinola (ha! See what I did there? I crack myself up) They are fighting an imaginary battle for an unreal cause. I probably should have tried to nicely explain things to her, but I just wanted to get away from her and go fishing. In retrospect, I should have at least tried to. Some folks might understand and stop messing with people's traps.

Here's the kicker.....I had heard the fisherman's version of the story the year before. It was Jiggin.  :roflmao:
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Post by: TheCrittaC on Dec 03, 2021, 08:18 PM
The water was so low last year that I couldn't trap bait in my usual spot. I'll probably set a couple traps tomorrow or Sunday with DeMoulas brand dog food and DeMoulas brand cheese curls if it doesn't have a skim coat of ice yet. It's a little swamp, but a couple years ago I got a sucker in a regular shiner trap.
As for who has them in stock, I personally don't know of anyone, but NH Fish & Game has a page with bait dealers. You could try finding that page and calling them to find out who has some.
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Post by: james on Dec 03, 2021, 08:54 PM
Berry's bait on rt 11 in New Durham has shiners.
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Post by: AQUAASSASSIN on Dec 03, 2021, 09:04 PM
Berry's bait on rt 11 in New Durham has shiners.

Hey James! Hope all is well!
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Post by: james on Dec 03, 2021, 09:32 PM
Hey Frank, Things are good here as i hope You and yours are as well! Happy holidays to you and your family!

Hey James! Hope all is well!
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Post by: swnoel on Dec 04, 2021, 08:44 AM
Anyone know a place that has live medium shiners in stock now?

Leroy's Bait in Rochester 603-923-3009
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Post by: HuntnFish603 on Dec 04, 2021, 10:32 AM
Leroy's Bait in Rochester 603-923-3009
Good call Steve!
I can attest it's good bait. And probably the cheapest around
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Post by: swnoel on Dec 05, 2021, 12:01 PM
Good call Steve!
I can attest it's good bait. And probably the cheapest around

He sure tries! At 85 I'm surprise he still traps beaver and gets around like he does. Thanks for supporting him!
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Post by: AQUAASSASSIN on Dec 05, 2021, 12:21 PM
He sure tries! At 85 I'm surprise he still traps beaver and gets around like he does. Thanks for supporting him!

Is Leroy his real name Steve? Reason I ask is he reminds me of a old trapper I knew as a real young kid in Dover named Bob.
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Post by: swnoel on Dec 06, 2021, 06:56 AM
Is Leroy his real name Steve? Reason I ask is he reminds me of a old trapper I knew as a real young kid in Dover named Bob.
I'm sure it's the Bob you remembered...Leroy is actually his middle name. He's still trapping at 85!
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Post by: AQUAASSASSIN on Dec 06, 2021, 07:07 AM
Wow! Knew it was him, but only ever spoke with him in lowlight conditions. Hasn’t seen him in 20 years. Bob McMaster local trapping legend I’ll haveto bring it up next time.
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Post by: AQUAASSASSIN on Dec 06, 2021, 07:12 AM
I took Trapper Education with he and Mel Liston and Steve Lacrosse way back too.
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Post by: JIGGIN- on Dec 06, 2021, 11:24 AM
A homeowner woman was talking to me one day as I was about to go open water fishing at the access next to her house. Wishing me luck, blah blah.

Then she told me that some people were there at times with traps "catching all those little fish that could have gotten bigger for you to catch" and she was "so angry" about them. She called F&G blah blah. Bad, bad men.

Some people don't even know the difference between shiners and shinola (ha! See what I did there? I crack myself up) They are fighting an imaginary battle for an unreal cause. I probably should have tried to nicely explain things to her, but I just wanted to get away from her and go fishing. In retrospect, I should have at least tried to. Some folks might understand and stop messing with people's traps.

Here's the kicker.....I had heard the fisherman's version of the story the year before. It was Jiggin.  :roflmao:

Too funny! Yes me and Laker Taker were involved in that with her. She kept hollering to us to get off the lake and take our traps with us. We were accused of taking all the fish and ruining the scenery with our floating jugs. She threaten to call Fish n Game on us. Hoping that was going to happen but didnt. Instead I think it was her husband told her to get her ass back in the house and apologized to us for her behavior.
That's not the first or only time we had run in's with people not liking their lake ruined by our traps. Lol

Thanks for the walk down memory lane Guinea!

Good times.
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Post by: swnoel on Dec 06, 2021, 12:49 PM
I took Trapper Education with he and Mel Liston and Steve Lacrosse way back too.

Never met Steve Lacrosse, but knew Mel. Did you take your trapper education at their Rendezvous? My youngest and I took ours 20 years ago there.
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Post by: AQUAASSASSIN on Dec 06, 2021, 01:16 PM
Never met Steve Lacrosse, but knew Mel. Did you take your trapper education at their Rendezvous? My youngest and I took ours 20 years ago there.

Yes I did! About 20 years ago I was I think a junior in high school
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Post by: swnoel on Dec 08, 2021, 07:31 AM
Yes I did! About 20 years ago I was I think a junior in high school

We may have taken it together!
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Post by: SPIN 1 on Dec 08, 2021, 07:53 AM
Shiner hotline?  Hmm what to do ? Set out trap  guess Ronnie rich guy that says he pays more taxes has more privileges.  Didn’t like it near his , was not onhis property.  It went Mia   Game on m@@&$@f$c?er 

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Post by: AQUAASSASSIN on Dec 08, 2021, 07:59 AM
We may have taken it together!

Most likely, small world.
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Post by: AQUAASSASSIN on Dec 08, 2021, 07:59 AM
Shiner hotline?  Hmm what to do ? Set out trap  guess Ronnie rich guy that says he pays more taxes has more privileges.  Didn’t like it near his , was not onhis property.  It went Mia   Game on m@@&$@f$c?er 

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Ohhhh look who shows up
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Post by: SPIN 1 on Dec 08, 2021, 08:05 AM
Giggity
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Post by: river_scum on Dec 20, 2021, 08:43 AM
shiners way too expensive around here.  i stoped buying them when they hit 250 a doz.  luckily, we are allowed to use panfsh in my state.  small gills n perch work just as good if not better.  ill hit the creeks and catch some chubs occasionally too. 
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Post by: BHardy on Dec 20, 2021, 12:55 PM
shiners way too expensive around here.  i stoped buying them when they hit 250 a doz.  luckily, we are allowed to use panfsh in my state.  small gills n perch work just as good if not better.  ill hit the creeks and catch some chubs occasionally too.

Holy, 250$ a dozen!! What state do you live in?  I got about about 5 grand worth in my holding tank….sell em to ya for 200$ a dozen. We’ll undercut the competition and make enough to buy a hotdog factory
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Post by: Lv2hunt on Dec 20, 2021, 01:06 PM
 :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: LMFAO!!
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Post by: river_scum on Dec 21, 2021, 06:20 AM
haha 2$ and 50 cent that clear enough for ya.