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Vermont => Ice Fishing Vermont => Topic started by: bassin212 on Jan 30, 2018, 11:32 AM
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I will be staying on Lake Champlain in mid February and have two options and was wondering if anyone had insight as to which one was better? Hibbard Bay Near Abenaki RD or the very southern end of Grand Isle to the west of Robinson Point. (where east shore road ends). Any tips you could offer as well as species i could expect to catch in that area would be appreciated! Never fished in VT or the BIG Lake for that matter. Thanks!
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I will be staying on Lake Champlain in mid February and have two options and was wondering if anyone had insight as to which one was better? Hibbard Bay Near Abenaki RD or the very southern end of Grand Isle to the west of Robinson Point. (where east shore road ends). Any tips you could offer as well as species i could expect to catch in that area would be appreciated! Never fished in VT or the BIG Lake for that matter. Thanks!
What do you want to fish for?
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I'm used to jigging for lake trout and setting tip ups for bass but i've never fished for Pike. I guess i'd really be going for whatever I have the best chance for catching really. I won't be super mobile because i'll be on foot. However, these locations are houses I've found on Air BnB and are lakefront so i'll just be walking on the hardwater from there. I DO have a flasher and Navionics.
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i have looked at some rentals in that area too. any type of jiggin spoon with bait shoud catch both perch and pike. use 6-10 test fluoro. have fun.
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Robinsons would put you in perch lakers and salmon land.
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what depths do you normally target?
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what depths do you normally target?
35 fow and deeper. I know some guys fish them in less but I look for deep areas by shoals and especially saddles. If you find a saddle with deeper water near shallow humps my god youve found. Fish.
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35 fow and deeper. I know some guys fish them in less but I look for deep areas by shoals and especially saddles. If you find a saddle with deeper water near shallow humps my god youve found. Fish.
I assume you're speaking of Lakers correct? Also, what is the preffered baits and jigs? Baitshops close by?
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I assume you're speaking of Lakers correct? Also, what is the preffered baits and jigs? Baitshops close by?
Tubes. ripping raps. airplane jigs. Zoom flukes. Basically anything that mimics an alwife.
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What's the preffered live bait for tip ups? Any bait shops near the. Very southern end of Grand Isle? I'll be staying on East Shore Road.
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Dockside is my personal favorite but Bill's is in the area as well. Both solid options and have everything you need for bait.
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Also just want to make sure I'm not violating any laws.... how many lines are you allowed per person on Champlain? Rule is written a little funny to me.
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15 sir
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I just thought it was too good to be true, I thought it was total not per person! Also how heavy for fleoro do you rig for Pike and for trout? Tip ups right off bottom? Circle hook or treble?
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Just under the ice for pike.
Trout depends on the depth.
Circle my preference, tend not to hurt the fish as much.
Leader size 15 lb is all you really need with a good bearing swivel.
Good luck.
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I mainly use wire leaders for Pike, red ones if I can find them. I've tried Flouro but lost a few big fish at the hole and I seem to catch just as many on wire. For trout it seems jigging is more productive than tip ups, at least from my experience. And yes 15 lines is a lot, for one person it's quite a bit of work. I usually put out 8-10 tip ups and that's enough to cover plenty of water.
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Between my girlfriend and I we could put 30 but she's never gone so probably going to stick to around 15 since I'm doing all the work. The feed back I've been getting is Robinson Point isn't really a Pike spot. So I'm not sure I'll really be setting up for them, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to drop a couple shallow
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I just got a PM about some unique bait rules you guys have? One was that you can sell non predator species to bait shops as bait? Which I'm not really interested in as I'll be releasing everything. But also that when I get bait I need to keep the receipt so that the warden may verify where my bait is from if stopped? Is there any other unique rules I should know about?
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I just got a PM about some unique bait rules you guys have? One was that you can sell non predator species to bait shops as bait? Which I'm not really interested in as I'll be releasing everything. But also that when I get bait I need to keep the receipt so that the warden may verify where my bait is from if stopped? Is there any other unique rules I should know about?
Yes keep your receipt. You have to tell the shop where you plan on using the bait, which gets put on the receipt. A warden will look for the location and count. If you have more minnows than your paper says they can get you for it....also there is an expiration on the bait. 3 or 4 days, I forgot exactly. Call a bait shop and ask before you go to buy.
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One was that you can sell non predator species to bait shops as bait?
Some bait shops will buy your panfish, but not for bait. For food.
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Oh gotcha. Won't really be doing that anyways, pretty much releasing everything since I'm only there for 2 nights.
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Also, the 15 lines includes any jigging rods, not just tipups
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Also, the 15 lines includes any jigging rods, not just tipups
Thanks!
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is where i'm fishing considered the Inland Sea? Where exactly is that area? Reading some discouraging things about that area for lakers and salmon..... something about O2 levels?
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Yes, off Robinson's is the Inland Sea (everything north of Sandbar State Park and east of the islands). I would not target lakers there, but there are certainly salmon in the IS. Fish "hunts" minnows 5' or less under the ice. Could also be pike, perch and walleye in that area.
You also mentioned "The Gut". That is all shallow, weedy water. Good pike fishing and can be good perch/panfish fishing at times. Where you should go depends on what you'd rather target.
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i'll probably set up for salmon on Saturday and fish Pike sunday morning. I know you fish salmon under the ice, but what depth in terms of water. do you find salmon relate to sandy bottom?
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I don't think the bottom matters much. They are constantly swimming looking for something to eat. I would start in at least 20' of water and wouldn't be afraid of setting up out to over 100'. They aren't relating to the bottom, so the depth doesn't matter that much. Due east of Robinson's Pt should be as good a place as any to set up for salmon. DEEP water close by and most of that area is 30'+. Good luck!
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it has a pretty nice drop off too. I'll be sure to let you guys know how i do. I really appreciate all the feedback from everyone.
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we want to see some fish pics.
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we want to see some fish pics.
If i catch them, i'll share them! Everyone giving me all this great info and tips it's the least I could do.
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He’s talking about the Robinson point off of east shore, that’s outer Malletts bay and should have some big lakers swimming around.
Yes, off Robinson's is the Inland Sea (everything north of Sandbar State Park and east of the islands). I would not target lakers there, but there are certainly salmon in the IS. Fish "hunts" minnows 5' or less under the ice. Could also be pike, perch and walleye in that area.
You also mentioned "The Gut". That is all shallow, weedy water. Good pike fishing and can be good perch/panfish fishing at times. Where you should go depends on what you'd rather target.
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Love all the replies and PM's. I guess there was some confusion to which "Robinson Point" i was referring to. I'll be fishing due west of the Lamoille River outlet and great back bay. Not sure if that changes things.
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If i catch them, i'll share them! Everyone giving me all this great info and tips it's the least I could do.
and some of your GF too if she is cute.
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and some of your GF too if she is cute.
LOL ! Hey now!
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Sorry, I had the wrong Robinson's. I was thinking of the one on the east shore of Grand Isle. Robinson's in Mallett's Bay is not the Inland Sea, but could certainly have lakers, salmon, browns, walleye, perch, pike. That could be a better overall spot than "the other Robinson's", actually! Good luck to you and sorry for the confusion.
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Sorry, I had the wrong Robinson's. I was thinking of the one on the east shore of Grand Isle. Robinson's in Mallett's Bay is not the Inland Sea, but could certainly have lakers, salmon, browns, walleye, perch, pike. That could be a better overall spot than "the other Robinson's", actually! Good luck to you and sorry for the confusion.
All good! Glad it worked out for the better haha. Now all I have to do is hook into a fish or two
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I see that you guys are getting dumped with snow tomorrow. What are the odds of it blowing off? Is there snow cover already on most coves and such?
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3-4" with small drifts of Snow are covering most coves already. Yeah not going to be fun with more coming.
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3-4" with small drifts of Snow are covering most coves already. Yeah not going to be fun with more coming.
Terrible timing! Looks like i'm bringing the snowshoes
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Or a snowmobile...!!
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Or a snowmobile...!!
If it was up and running I would
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Quick question. In NH you are allowed to use "set cusk lines" basically 1 oz weight with a 6 inch leader to a hook with bait to it sits at the bottom on a non running spool. Are you able to set these on champlain? would love to leave them out overnight. check in the morning. we call them cusk, but i'm sure you are all familiar with the nanes...burbot, ling cod, poor mans lobster! thanks.
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No - recent VT F&W law stipulates you must maintain control over your lines by checking a flag within 30 minutes. Old rule was vague so F@W clarified.
We talked with warden who was specific. You have 30 minutes to check a line once the flag pops including fishing at night.
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got it, thank you!
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getting close to that time! will be fishing saturday and stopping at Dockside probably in the afternoon tomorrow, pretty excited. Any idea how much snow cover i might be looking at/ice thickness? I'll be bringing the spud bar and checking as i go regardless. i'll make sure to give you a report, hopefully a fishy one!
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Good luck to you!
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Thanks Crayfish2! Also, can I get a VT Fishing license at Dockside or should I just do it online? Would rather do it there because I don't have my girlfriends license info on me and would rather take care of it at once.
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Do it online and print it out yourself, don't forget to sign it. Unless things changed this year, bait shops don't have a special system, they just log in to the same website and fill out the info. We had to scramble 2 years ago when the bait shop didn't have internet and we had bad cell service to get a license using our phones. Should be plenty of ice out where you are fishing, might be a bit slushy.
Thanks Crayfish2! Also, can I get a VT Fishing license at Dockside or should I just do it online? Would rather do it there because I don't have my girlfriends license info on me and would rather take care of it at once.
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Didn’t fish too long today, gave up on setting tip ups too windy. I had some
Company out there, but I was the only one fishing the deep water. I ended up sitting in the pop up jigging uo yellows and was ready to cut my loses with the Lake Trout. I was already anchored down and didn’t wanna pick up and relocate. BUT I ended up catching a laker....MY PB LAKER!!! All in all a great birthday. Thanks for all the info in here and Dockside was very helpful, seems like a stand up guy.
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Nice trout! Glad you found a big one.
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Nice trout.
Inland sea?
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Glad you could get it done on your birthday! That's a beautiful laker.
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Nice trout.
Inland sea?
Just South I believe.
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LOL ! Hey now!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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New to this site!
Looking to ice fish in the Shelburne/Burlington Vt area this weekend. Does anyone know good access points and ice conditions?
Clueless at the moment would love advice!
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Beauty -- congrats!!
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Thanks Everyone! Already trying to figure out how i'm gonna get back to Champlain. loved it.